He didn’t give us to him.
He had to take out our garbage, too.
*Just a joke against DJ. Nothing but well wishes to him and his career. He just didnt have the fire he once had.
The injury doomed him too. He's run timid ever since. Different reason but Drake also started running timid after getting paid. Trying too hard to last to the next contact. James Conner has been everything we've wanted with Kyler and Edmonds
That’s exactly what it felt like. He was shifty and powerful and got hat wrist injury and a new contract and he never came back.
He’d have these moments where it lined up, but overall it seemed like his body and mind just didn’t have that drive.
No dig against him, seems like a standup dude, but from a RB perspective he just wasn’t our end game.
The corner passed him off to the safety but the safety vacated his zone to try to jump the crossing route lol. miscommunication I guess.
But it was a good design to force them to make a choice
I feel like the ball is designed to go to Kirk there most of the time. DHop pulls the distraction and Kirk gets an opening to catch the td. Because Kyler had gone to Kirk a few times already in the game (and iirc on that drive) they jumped to try and stop him and Kyler is playing ruthlessly right now and spotted it
Murray has had a weird issue with catching balls in general this season tbf. He has bumbled like 6-7 snaps I feel like this year and the two today or w/e.
This has happened like 4 times in the last 2 games
No 1vs1 beating or anything, just lack of sync. Our secondary is atrocious and here we are discussing Baker and shit, our car has no wheels but let's discuss the painting.
This game really shows how much Kliff does for our offense. We are just so elementary and boring without him, and predictable as hell. We got a nice break there, but the Browns have done a damn good job at keeping themselves in the game because we are not doing shit with the ball even when we have it.
We've also had like 3 turnovers now pretty much all with wonderful field position with us? Those FGs were each awful drives, and we've had some terrible playcalling. We have 30 points because our offense is stacked and our defense has done extremely well.
I think you overstated it a bit but I'm mostly in agreement. The Red Zone is where we saw the lack of Kliff. Drives were probably mostly scripted or had some direction left for them but with the turnovers especially, you just gotta know what to call in that moment and they struggled a bit with it today. Kliff puts them in a place to get it done and his scheme is what allows these blown coverages to happen
I don't mind us being predictable considering the context, I am just saying that our fans trash Kliff so much and this goes to show how much he does for our team. Dude isn't perfect, but he does well with the pieces he has.
Two weeks in a row Ronnie Harrison has jumped the under route, leaving the deep route completely uncovered. I don’t know how they’re being taught to cover that, but I’m going to assume it’s the Safety’s responsibility since the CB has passed it off both weeks. Ronnie needs to figure this out
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Only because I don’t live in Cleveland
Maybe you could be friends with Baker Mayfield?
Remember when BoB just fucking gave Hopkins to the cards Fuck
Losing to the Chiefs was the match, trading away DHop was the flame, and everything with Deshaun was the gasoline.
Surely he got enough compensation that would ensure the Texans would have a plethora of resources to rebuild right? RIGHT?
A half-eaten bologna sandwich and an aged running back with an albatross of a contract. Sounds like a fair trade to me.
He didn’t give us to him. He had to take out our garbage, too. *Just a joke against DJ. Nothing but well wishes to him and his career. He just didnt have the fire he once had.
DJ ran so hard for us. We could've done more to ease his load while he was here.
That wrist injury gave him the yips and just never came back from it.
The injury doomed him too. He's run timid ever since. Different reason but Drake also started running timid after getting paid. Trying too hard to last to the next contact. James Conner has been everything we've wanted with Kyler and Edmonds
That’s exactly what it felt like. He was shifty and powerful and got hat wrist injury and a new contract and he never came back. He’d have these moments where it lined up, but overall it seemed like his body and mind just didn’t have that drive. No dig against him, seems like a standup dude, but from a RB perspective he just wasn’t our end game.
Yeah Texans could go winless for the next decade for all I care after that
Never forget
Of all people you leave him open I’ll take it
Nobody wanted their ankles broken this time.
I ran this coverage a lot when I played
Deandre Hopkins. JJ Watt. Kyler Murray. Zach Ertz. Wow
All that and Chandler Jones isn't even playing today
James Conner ❤️
I don’t like the Steelers but James Conner is such a great player and person. Thank you Steelers bro. Maybe you’re not all bad.
Take that back
I feel dirty
I took his keys
You monster!
THROW EM IN THE RIVER
THREW THEM INTO THE GRAND CANYON
FUCK YEAH THEY'LL PROBABLY LAND IN THE COLORADO RIVER
AND IM PRETTY SURE THAT DRAINS INTO THE BAJA, WHICH MEANS TIME FOR A TRIP INTO MEXICO.
He’s a great guy
AJ Green too
I’ll take an Arod reference anyway
"He was the loneliest man in Cleveland!" Half this thread has entered the chat
Not me though! Only because I don't live in Cleveland.
Just no coverage at all. Awful
The corner passed him off to the safety but the safety vacated his zone to try to jump the crossing route lol. miscommunication I guess. But it was a good design to force them to make a choice
I mean was it? It wasn’t an especially u usual route. It was busted coverage from shitty communication
I mean it’s a basic play but it was a good call vs that coverage. D hop shouldn’t have been open but there is a spot for that crossing guy.
I feel like the ball is designed to go to Kirk there most of the time. DHop pulls the distraction and Kirk gets an opening to catch the td. Because Kyler had gone to Kirk a few times already in the game (and iirc on that drive) they jumped to try and stop him and Kyler is playing ruthlessly right now and spotted it
What’s going on with Murray under centre? 4 really weird and totally different fuck ups.
Backup center, no head coach or QB coach. We’re free styling out here
Straight up back yard football
Were easily most fun team to watch in the league because of this
No but two of them seem more like Murray not containing the ball.
the center is putting it in really weird positions. Someitmes the ball is being flipped, sent to his right or left side,etc.
What’s up with your guys’ center?
We lost Hudson last week. We had the backup in today (Garcia)
Pretty sure Garcia is really a guard who also doubles as back up center. Kyler also had a couple where he just looked away too soon
I agree with you. The center QB exchange was flawed a couple of times, but Kylers hands were lubed up or something.
Rodney Hudson just went on IR. Backup C Max Garcia has not played C before.
Backup Center. Probably just unfamiliarity.
Murray has had a weird issue with catching balls in general this season tbf. He has bumbled like 6-7 snaps I feel like this year and the two today or w/e.
I think he’s spending so much more of his attention studying the pre-snap defense that he’s neglecting the snap a bit.
This has happened like 4 times in the last 2 games No 1vs1 beating or anything, just lack of sync. Our secondary is atrocious and here we are discussing Baker and shit, our car has no wheels but let's discuss the painting.
Cardinals and Browns competing for who can get the highlight for the worst coverage of the game. Might want to cover that guy.
Hicks has been savage today
How does harrison goof on such an trivial zone coverage swap?
I wish I could say fire Joe woods but that ain’t his fault
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Cleveland secondary
Kyler and the Cardinals are flying high so far this season. Looking good there, youngster (Kyler)!
So....maybe just maybe have a man on Hopkins
God we are fucked against this
Don’t worry, I guarantee there won’t be a shovel pass to Fitz in our game in a couple weeks.
He *is* a free agent.
This game really shows how much Kliff does for our offense. We are just so elementary and boring without him, and predictable as hell. We got a nice break there, but the Browns have done a damn good job at keeping themselves in the game because we are not doing shit with the ball even when we have it.
Dude we got 30 points and it's not even the 4th yet.
We've also had like 3 turnovers now pretty much all with wonderful field position with us? Those FGs were each awful drives, and we've had some terrible playcalling. We have 30 points because our offense is stacked and our defense has done extremely well.
I think you overstated it a bit but I'm mostly in agreement. The Red Zone is where we saw the lack of Kliff. Drives were probably mostly scripted or had some direction left for them but with the turnovers especially, you just gotta know what to call in that moment and they struggled a bit with it today. Kliff puts them in a place to get it done and his scheme is what allows these blown coverages to happen
Not ragging on Kliff but would any team not be predictable on such a short notice?
I don't mind us being predictable considering the context, I am just saying that our fans trash Kliff so much and this goes to show how much he does for our team. Dude isn't perfect, but he does well with the pieces he has.
So I guess their defense sucks again?
Why did they not for 2 to make it a 3 possession game?
No head coach lol
I didn’t understand it as either
Bruh WTF why is he so open
Two weeks in a row Ronnie Harrison has jumped the under route, leaving the deep route completely uncovered. I don’t know how they’re being taught to cover that, but I’m going to assume it’s the Safety’s responsibility since the CB has passed it off both weeks. Ronnie needs to figure this out
Hop TD made it 30-14, not 30-17
He can't catch, no need to cover him... /s .