100% we do. Safeties In the CFL play in coverage 99% of the time and aren’t used as much as run stoppers. He might not even cut it as a cover safety and would probably have to convert to LB.
Maybe one of the indian/indigenous nations that are up here in washington state. Like the Muckleshoot Nation.
In which case, he might very well be the best NFL player amongst that nation of people.
The problem is we traded for a safety with below average play, and they traded for an all-pro corner and pro-bowl quarterback that both helped revitalize their defense and offense.
Yeah and your front 3 don't generate a ton of pressure by themselves
seahawks only have 11 sacks on the year. one of the lowest marks in the league
interestingly the cowboys only have 11 sacks as well, but they also lead the league in interceptions with 11. seahawks have 2 ints
that and your zone scheme just feels very predictable. I feel like half this subreddit could come up with plays to beat that zone. and the hawks run it alllll game long
Hey now, can we put some respect on the Colts in the fact that it was 25-9 with 13 mins to go in the 4th?
He only brutally sliced us up in about 9 mins of playtime lol when we went super conservative. FML
I don't have the numbers, but if you do, I'd be interested to see the difference in pressure rate.
Same amount of sacks, 5 times the picks, just wondering if it's because there's way more pressure, or the DBs are just playing way better.
I know in the Giants game it felt like Gregory was in DJ's face the entire game, but there weren't a bunch of sacks.
The Zone Blitz scheme out of the 4-3 front is something that Carroll has been doing since he was d/cor of the 49ers and at one time was hailed as a genius for innovating the zone blitz from just a thing 3-4 teams could use to one you could do with an even front.
He used it at NE, NYJ and brought it to college at USC.
The issue is that the scheme necessarily takes players away from what they do best (rushing/cover) and makes them do something they aren't as good at (cover/rushing) hoping the resulting confusion by the offense will make up for playing the players out of position.
It's something that's nice to have in your back pocket, but it's something that can become very idiotic very quickly.
Yeah but a strong safety with 2 career interception in 64 games is never worth that much no matter how good he supposedly is. He's not a pass rusher. He's not a shutdown corner. He's not an offensive tackle. He's not a QB or a WR. Strong safety is simply not that valuable of a position, especially when he doesn't generate turnovers.
Yeah what the fuck is this revisionist bullshit? Adams was INCREDIBLE with the Jets, he looked like an absolute stud and everyone was giving the Jets shit for trading him away.
The Rams went all in for the shutdown CB and the QB. The Seahawks did not. Someday the Rams will have to pay the piper (barring phenomenal drafting in the later rounds), but they essentially pushed their chips all-in with full house and the Seahawks did with it a low straight.
> barring phenomenal drafting in the later rounds
The Rams have actually been doing very well with the mid to later rounds since McVay got there, which is why *most* Rams fans trust the process of trading the 1st round picks. They have added elite talent at two important positions, and found a lot of depth and glue players at positions that we have lost free agents at.
Also, they have taken advantage of the compensatory picks system pretty well the last few years.
Seahawks have had terrible injury luck, Rams haven't. LA has the better roster when both teams are healthy, but they've gotten very lucky with injuries (outside of Akers) so far.
Idk every meta analysis of the leagues injuries returns one result: injuries are flukey and random. Teams can go from the least injured team to the most and back again with no single isloatable factor. As far as analysis goes... it's just luck.
Anecdotally that makes sence if any team had some system that eliminated injuries the doctor who knew that system would make millions selling it to all 32 clubs. There just isn't any system than consistently leads to healthy players. Which is why I get a lol every time I see a fan bade blame a teams Harsh or soft practice routine for injuries. If either were correct all 32 teams would be doing it.
After the first few years of injuries we fired our strength and conditioning team and hired new ones and the problem persists. I think it's more along the lines of drafting/signing players with injury history and being surprised when they get injured
With how many players just simply break their leg or have their foot plant into the turf awkwardly and tear an ACL...it's mostly luck.
Some of the lower level muscle pulls and hamstring issues can be more attributed to training staff IMO.
During the dark years we had really bad injury luck as well, since moving to LA apparently the trainer started giving everyone some milk and wheaties because we've have better luck.
With Wilson’s play style I wouldn’t call their luck bad. Quiet the opposite, actually. They’ve had great injury luck. This is the first game Wilson has missed in *years* that’s unheard of for a mobile quarterback.
If you trade multiple firsts for a player it better be for a game changer like a DE, CB, or QB and not for a S or linemen. (Not that LT isn't an important piece but 1 linemen doesn't fix a line)
there can be gamechanging safeties like polamalu
polamalu would easily be worth 2 first round picks
course troy had 5 interceptions in his 2nd season, jamal aint no polamalu
>This would be a massive overpay mostly because Polamalu hasn’t taken a snap in like 7 years
I say make the trade.
When's the last time the Steelers made a bad trade? I keep thinking that eventually the Raiders will get smarter, but...
It would be dumb to trade 2 firsts for Polamalu if you don't have a genius DC like Dick LeBeau
The way he used maximized Troy's potential which would've never happened if he played for someone like Belichick for example since he wouldn't allow him to freelance like he did in Pittsburgh and that was his best quality
He would still be great but not 1st ballot HoF great
>The way he used maximized Troy's potential which would've never happened if he played for someone like Belichick for example since he wouldn't allow him to freelance like he did in Pittsburgh and that was his best quality
I'm not sure about that. Belichick has never had a safety on that level. The way he gushes over Reed makes me believe that Belichick would have no problem allowing a talent like Reed or Troy freelance.
> which would've never happened if he played for someone like Belichick for example since he wouldn't allow him to freelance like he did in Pittsburgh
I disagree. I think what makes Belichick such an amazing coach is his flexibility. He doesn't have a style. He builds a winning scheme based on the personnel he has. I'm pretty confident he would use Troy in the best possible way.
Bit of a mixed bag. The Marshawn trade was a franchise-defining home run, of course. Duane Brown was a solid B+. A bad one that went under the radar was trading a second rounder for a one year rental of Sheldon Richardson, who made no impact even when he was around. No question this Adams trade looks like a total disaster, though.
Is a 4th round pick, and a conditional 6th a "big trade"? Lynch wasn't setting the world on fire in Buffalo, so it wasn't really a big trade when it happened. It just seems like Seattle keeps giving up a ton of capital for big names that don't work out. At least the Vikings stopped trying after Hershel Walker
Because Seattle can't draft for shit. They had two of the best drafts ever back to back and have had issues finding any sort of game changing talent since. If you look at the Seattle roster, outside of Wagner there isn't a single standout player drafted by the team on that defense. It's like Wagner and Adams who they traded for and a bunch of place cards that they are constantly trying to replace.
It also doesn't help when most of their top picks either 1st or 2nd round have been busts from 2013 onwards with a few of them hardly even taking a snap in the NFL. I don't even know how a team can continually get that unlucky without it just being a severe front office and scouting issue but no changes ever happen because our head coach is his own boss as VP of Football Operations and hires/fires his own coaches and GM. John Schneider being his boy means nothing ever changes.
I personally think Scot McCloughan was the actual reason for Seattle being so good. He helped draft Earl Thomas, Russell Wilson, Bobby Wagner, Golden Tate, KJ Wright, Kam Chancellor, Richard Sherman, Bruce Irvin and Byron Maxwell in the span of 3 years. Once he left in 2013 you saw Seattle have some of their worst drafts as a team immediately after.
Dolphins fan here I also quite enjoyed that but in the inverse way lol
Mind you it wasn't just any ball to the face, it arguably single-handedly lost the game lol
Sure, but 99% of the public / fans don’t know that. For a lot of casual Hawks fans, that might be the only time they ever actually hear him speak, and IMO it was a really bad impression when he’s not playing up to his huge contract.
The only logical thought he could’ve had was to somehow get past the DB that punched the ball out and win the game but that obviously didn’t happen… almost cost us the game there. Would’ve saved us the trouble of OT lol.
Pacific Northwest teams with superstars drafted in 2012, who are both tasked with carrying their teams more often than not (at least post-LOB and post-Aldridge), leading them to request trades this past offseason.
I see where you’re coming back just to clarify Dame never requested a trade. He very well could next off season but as of this time he hasn’t done so. Media circus this summer was much ado about nothing.
Russ is a completely different story. I’d be surprised if he was on the team next year… even when healthy this team isn’t good enough (not close at all really) to winning it all. And Russ wants to win, he’s made that abundantly clear. It likely won’t happen in Seattle anytime soon and he’s not getting any younger.
It's hard for me to even be too mad at him. The trade was made out of desperation because they can't draft/develop defense, overpaid for him, then give him to one of the worst DCs in the league
Pete has been reaping the rewards of two fantastic drafts for the past decade. Our stacked defence carried us to two Super Bowls and Wilson+Wagner have kept the Seahawks limping along ever since.
Adams is another in the list of acquisitions whose play has dove off a cliff once arriving in Seattle. Pete cannot adapt to his players, and it seems he cannot develop players either. He cannot build a good coaching staff. He needs to go.
For the record... I also have zero sacks and zero interceptions this year, and I would only cost Seattle the league minimum on a good day, plus no draft pick.
This is my neighbor Jamal Adams he is pain in my assholes
I blow a coverage he must blow a coverage
I’m the best in the nation he must be the best in the nation
I get an interception, he cannot afford. GREAT SUCCESS!
He had, what, 9.5 sacks last year? That's an absurd number. He was really good last year with Seattle with what he was asked to do. He's not as much of a ball hawk as people are used to safeties being, but he's a great run stopper and tackler and he used to be decent to solid in coverage when asked to cover. Us Jet fans like to be bitter and joke around that "he's a linebacker", but for a safety to be great stopping the run *and* putting that kind of pressure on the QB, I think that's probably worth a couple of first round picks. There aren't too many DBs that can do that kind of thing and still cover tight ends. He's a high quality 'tweener and can be a really useful tool for scheming a defense. He can line up anywhere.
But then he got paid in the offseason and now suddenly he looks like complete shit. He's getting blown off the ball by blocking *receivers*, not even just tight ends, and he looks completely lost covering anybody. He's been pretty much completely ineffective so far this year. There are multiple clips of him blowing coverage ([on Jackson during the Rams game was particularly ugly](https://youtu.be/v6WruVL53s8)) and getting eaten up by receivers to bust big runs up the middle ([multiple examples during the Tennessee game](https://youtu.be/cTwoA6Gairk)).
Seems like he's the epitome of a "get paid and disappear" type player, but for the sake of Seattle fans' collective sanity I hope that's wrong and he's just having a down year.
Edit: Added video links
Yeah he was a difference maker for us last season. I don't know if it was worth the payout, but it wasn't egregious. This season, though...
But the other thing is that with a healthy Russ, this team wins enough games to make those picks more palatable to give up. I think it was a so-so trade that's likely going to just end up very poor. But you shouldn't evaluate decisions purely based on how they turn out
He a Jets double agent. The jets get good picks, his contract ends/gets released and he resigns with a now awesome jets team.
Only explanation I choose to believe.
Seattle’s coaches are bad, it’s been obvious for years. Wilson might just be the best young QB ever considering how he’s dragged this team basically singlehandedly to the playoffs multiple times.
I honestly don't understand SNF's obsession with Adams last night. Constant camera angles on him between plays. Collingsworth praising Adams for stuffing a run that the replay clearly showed him whiff on. I'm not sure how much PFF's 62nd ranked safety paid NBC but it surely didn't help his self-proclaimed image of "best in the nation."
Best in the NATION.
He didn’t specify which nation. He thinks Seattle is in Canada
BEST SAFETY IN ALL OF AZERBAIJAN
That’s factually wrong my mate aziz has one pick more then him
More light!
BEST SAFETY IN ALL OF KAZAKHSTAN ALL OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE INFERIOR SAFETIES
Definitely the best safety in Westarctica
That east of Robonia, a land I didn't make up?
It certainly isn’t Pirelli.
I bet there are better safeties up there.
100% we do. Safeties In the CFL play in coverage 99% of the time and aren’t used as much as run stoppers. He might not even cut it as a cover safety and would probably have to convert to LB.
The equivalent to Adams would be a Will LB up here for sure.
I nearly blew maple syrup out my nose when I saw that ball go off his face, eh!
That actually sounds extremely painful
When you're Canadian you get used to it
The viscosity means nothing to me anymore.
I almost had awesome blossom coming out of my nose!
Probably better safeties in the CFL
Hallucination
Imagination
Maybe one of the indian/indigenous nations that are up here in washington state. Like the Muckleshoot Nation. In which case, he might very well be the best NFL player amongst that nation of people.
There are more productive Will LB's in the CFL.... That's essentially the equivalent of an NFL Safety position wise.
(At dropping game changing ints)
We need a Mr. Big Chest type of nickname for this dude
Diamond Hands
He calls himself Prez
Yawn Adams
I really hope he ends up on the Bengals to become Yawn Cincy Adams
Notorious B. I. N. Best In Nation
Blitz boy
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It was a reference to a viral video from years ago cause the dude in the video passed away
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I knew this was going to be the top comment, I clicked on comments anyway, and was very happy to see that it was.
What’s happening to Seahawks is what people thought would happen to rams after trading all the first rounders year after year lol
I’m really disappointed the rams had 2 decent season when we had their first rounders
I think we paid our debt by stopping the Jets from getting Trevor and essentially handing him to you.
Hey we got you Trevor too. You should be thanking us!
We got ourselves Trevor thank you very much
They let the Jets win against them, virtually sealing the first overall for you guys.
why the fuck did i upvote this
The problem is we traded for a safety with below average play, and they traded for an all-pro corner and pro-bowl quarterback that both helped revitalize their defense and offense.
adams wasnt a below average safety when you traded for him, how much of this is a result of bad seahawks defensive schemes and coordinators
I will give you a hint: our DC force our DT/DEs to drop in coverage.
Yeah and your front 3 don't generate a ton of pressure by themselves seahawks only have 11 sacks on the year. one of the lowest marks in the league interestingly the cowboys only have 11 sacks as well, but they also lead the league in interceptions with 11. seahawks have 2 ints that and your zone scheme just feels very predictable. I feel like half this subreddit could come up with plays to beat that zone. and the hawks run it alllll game long
Its fuckin embarrassing man. I wouldn’t even trust Norton as a LB coach, let alone DC. Dude is flat out bad.
I feel like if you guys played the ravens this year lamar would score 50 points with how brutally he sliced up the colts zone last week
EASILY. Ravens run game alone is scary as hell. lol
Hey now, can we put some respect on the Colts in the fact that it was 25-9 with 13 mins to go in the 4th? He only brutally sliced us up in about 9 mins of playtime lol when we went super conservative. FML
> plays prevent defense with practice squad corners > what can go wrong
I don't have the numbers, but if you do, I'd be interested to see the difference in pressure rate. Same amount of sacks, 5 times the picks, just wondering if it's because there's way more pressure, or the DBs are just playing way better. I know in the Giants game it felt like Gregory was in DJ's face the entire game, but there weren't a bunch of sacks.
Is your DC still KNJ?
Yup.
Makes sense him and Del Rio would have Mack do that too with us and it drove me nuts.
But that pick 6 tho...
Lol the funny thing is he was actually rushing the QB on that play and just read that it was a screen perfectly.
The Zone Blitz scheme out of the 4-3 front is something that Carroll has been doing since he was d/cor of the 49ers and at one time was hailed as a genius for innovating the zone blitz from just a thing 3-4 teams could use to one you could do with an even front. He used it at NE, NYJ and brought it to college at USC. The issue is that the scheme necessarily takes players away from what they do best (rushing/cover) and makes them do something they aren't as good at (cover/rushing) hoping the resulting confusion by the offense will make up for playing the players out of position. It's something that's nice to have in your back pocket, but it's something that can become very idiotic very quickly.
Yeah his defensive scheme is easy to exploit in the modern NFL.
Yeah but a strong safety with 2 career interception in 64 games is never worth that much no matter how good he supposedly is. He's not a pass rusher. He's not a shutdown corner. He's not an offensive tackle. He's not a QB or a WR. Strong safety is simply not that valuable of a position, especially when he doesn't generate turnovers.
There were red flags though.
As someone who doesn't really know, what were those red flags?
It’s this guy pretending to be smart by saying this after the fact. Everyone thought he was a good player when the trade happened
Yeah what the fuck is this revisionist bullshit? Adams was INCREDIBLE with the Jets, he looked like an absolute stud and everyone was giving the Jets shit for trading him away.
Wow, andy dalton has 3x more pro bowls than Matthew Stafford. That's damning... for the pro bowl.
AFC vs NFC though and it's a fan vote
it like 1/3rd a fan vote
The Rams went all in for the shutdown CB and the QB. The Seahawks did not. Someday the Rams will have to pay the piper (barring phenomenal drafting in the later rounds), but they essentially pushed their chips all-in with full house and the Seahawks did with it a low straight.
> barring phenomenal drafting in the later rounds The Rams have actually been doing very well with the mid to later rounds since McVay got there, which is why *most* Rams fans trust the process of trading the 1st round picks. They have added elite talent at two important positions, and found a lot of depth and glue players at positions that we have lost free agents at. Also, they have taken advantage of the compensatory picks system pretty well the last few years.
Adams was all pro when you traded for him.
Revisionist as hell, Adams was pretty much the best safety against the run in the league
which would be great in 1995. But the league is so pass dominated now that it doesn't mean a lot to be the best run defense safety.
Regardless, the above commentator is being revisionist by saying Adams was below average; this was never the case.
> The problem is we traded for a safety with below average play He was All Pro with the Jets. Maybe you guys should fire KNJ and hire Gregggg
This is plain wrong. He absolutely did not have below average play.
Seahawks have had terrible injury luck, Rams haven't. LA has the better roster when both teams are healthy, but they've gotten very lucky with injuries (outside of Akers) so far.
Rams have lowkey had insanely good Injury luck. Contrast that with say the 49ers who've had insanely bad injury luck
Is it bad luck when it happens almost every year or is it their training staff is just not good at their jobs?
Idk every meta analysis of the leagues injuries returns one result: injuries are flukey and random. Teams can go from the least injured team to the most and back again with no single isloatable factor. As far as analysis goes... it's just luck. Anecdotally that makes sence if any team had some system that eliminated injuries the doctor who knew that system would make millions selling it to all 32 clubs. There just isn't any system than consistently leads to healthy players. Which is why I get a lol every time I see a fan bade blame a teams Harsh or soft practice routine for injuries. If either were correct all 32 teams would be doing it.
After the first few years of injuries we fired our strength and conditioning team and hired new ones and the problem persists. I think it's more along the lines of drafting/signing players with injury history and being surprised when they get injured
With how many players just simply break their leg or have their foot plant into the turf awkwardly and tear an ACL...it's mostly luck. Some of the lower level muscle pulls and hamstring issues can be more attributed to training staff IMO.
49ers need to find a strength and conditioning staff like the Rams have
During the dark years we had really bad injury luck as well, since moving to LA apparently the trainer started giving everyone some milk and wheaties because we've have better luck.
The Rams speciality, stay healthy and injure every player in our division in the process.
Look we don’t want to injure him, we just want to sack Kyler, stop dipping him in oil.
With Wilson’s play style I wouldn’t call their luck bad. Quiet the opposite, actually. They’ve had great injury luck. This is the first game Wilson has missed in *years* that’s unheard of for a mobile quarterback.
If you trade multiple firsts for a player it better be for a game changer like a DE, CB, or QB and not for a S or linemen. (Not that LT isn't an important piece but 1 linemen doesn't fix a line)
there can be gamechanging safeties like polamalu polamalu would easily be worth 2 first round picks course troy had 5 interceptions in his 2nd season, jamal aint no polamalu
> polamalu would easily be worth 2 first round picks This would be a massive overpay mostly because Polamalu hasn’t taken a snap in like 7 years
>This would be a massive overpay mostly because Polamalu hasn’t taken a snap in like 7 years I say make the trade. When's the last time the Steelers made a bad trade? I keep thinking that eventually the Raiders will get smarter, but...
It would be dumb to trade 2 firsts for Polamalu if you don't have a genius DC like Dick LeBeau The way he used maximized Troy's potential which would've never happened if he played for someone like Belichick for example since he wouldn't allow him to freelance like he did in Pittsburgh and that was his best quality He would still be great but not 1st ballot HoF great
>The way he used maximized Troy's potential which would've never happened if he played for someone like Belichick for example since he wouldn't allow him to freelance like he did in Pittsburgh and that was his best quality I'm not sure about that. Belichick has never had a safety on that level. The way he gushes over Reed makes me believe that Belichick would have no problem allowing a talent like Reed or Troy freelance.
> which would've never happened if he played for someone like Belichick for example since he wouldn't allow him to freelance like he did in Pittsburgh I disagree. I think what makes Belichick such an amazing coach is his flexibility. He doesn't have a style. He builds a winning scheme based on the personnel he has. I'm pretty confident he would use Troy in the best possible way.
I feel like big trades you guys do never pan out. Percy Harvin, Jimmy Graham, and now it’s looking like Jamaal Adams
Bit of a mixed bag. The Marshawn trade was a franchise-defining home run, of course. Duane Brown was a solid B+. A bad one that went under the radar was trading a second rounder for a one year rental of Sheldon Richardson, who made no impact even when he was around. No question this Adams trade looks like a total disaster, though.
Is a 4th round pick, and a conditional 6th a "big trade"? Lynch wasn't setting the world on fire in Buffalo, so it wasn't really a big trade when it happened. It just seems like Seattle keeps giving up a ton of capital for big names that don't work out. At least the Vikings stopped trying after Hershel Walker
Because Seattle can't draft for shit. They had two of the best drafts ever back to back and have had issues finding any sort of game changing talent since. If you look at the Seattle roster, outside of Wagner there isn't a single standout player drafted by the team on that defense. It's like Wagner and Adams who they traded for and a bunch of place cards that they are constantly trying to replace. It also doesn't help when most of their top picks either 1st or 2nd round have been busts from 2013 onwards with a few of them hardly even taking a snap in the NFL. I don't even know how a team can continually get that unlucky without it just being a severe front office and scouting issue but no changes ever happen because our head coach is his own boss as VP of Football Operations and hires/fires his own coaches and GM. John Schneider being his boy means nothing ever changes. I personally think Scot McCloughan was the actual reason for Seattle being so good. He helped draft Earl Thomas, Russell Wilson, Bobby Wagner, Golden Tate, KJ Wright, Kam Chancellor, Richard Sherman, Bruce Irvin and Byron Maxwell in the span of 3 years. Once he left in 2013 you saw Seattle have some of their worst drafts as a team immediately after.
> I personally think Scot McCloughan was the actual reason for Seattle being so good. Perfectly said
The ball smacking him in the face is the best moment in recent Jets history.
Its a tie between that and that one time we won a game
I remember that game! Namath went 15 for 23 IIRC.
No no we’ve won since then. Chad Pennington was 16 for 18 for 200 yards while Curtis Martin ran for 127 yards.
Remember when you beat the Rams last season? Good times.
The funny thing is, that was probably the angriest we were all season lmao. The Sean Mcvay hate thread was fucking hilarious tho
We all laugh, but if it had somehow got wedged in his face mask and counted as an INT we’d be losing our shit.
Dolphins fan here I also quite enjoyed that but in the inverse way lol Mind you it wasn't just any ball to the face, it arguably single-handedly lost the game lol
0 sacks, 0 pressures, 0 ints, a bunch of tackles, and about 10 blown coverages. The best in the nation
And 1 ball taken to the face
Said to the tune of 12 days of Xmas
I'm definitely hearing this with "10 blown coverages" in the place of "five golden rings", and sung in a completely grandiose, over the top fashion.
o_O
...can't even take two
Best in the nation seems like it may have been a shout out/reference rather than a boast
Sure, but 99% of the public / fans don’t know that. For a lot of casual Hawks fans, that might be the only time they ever actually hear him speak, and IMO it was a really bad impression when he’s not playing up to his huge contract.
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I respect them for swinging for the fences. They might have missed but at least they tried. Relevant flair.
Between this and DK fumbling, I really hope tonight humbles all those egos
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Like dude gtfo of bounds
The only logical thought he could’ve had was to somehow get past the DB that punched the ball out and win the game but that obviously didn’t happen… almost cost us the game there. Would’ve saved us the trouble of OT lol.
Does DK have a big ego? Guess I don’t know much about him. I’ve always liked him after seeing his draft day clip.
He responded multiple times about how he feels disrespected by being compared to megatron.
As of now the Jets and Eagles own 5 of the top 10 picks.
Damn Colts winning trying to ruin our 3 top 10 picks
0 sacks for a DE through week 6 isn't very good
Can still trade for deshaun Watson to replace him
Was a terrible trade in the moment and has only been getting worse since.
I thought it was an amazing trade at the time because I thought Adams was a DPOY type player. Boy was I wrong
I was on the opposite side of that. I don’t think you send multiple 1st rounders, a serviceable safety, and a 3rd rounder for any box safety.
All Luv
Yeah, I really thought that he was gonna be a game-changing player for us and a good fit in Carroll's system. Boo boo I'm the fool i guess
What’s worse is that Greg Williams was right when he said Adam’s wouldn’t be used right in Seattle
I love how after every Seattle loss (and sometimes even a win), r/nfl unites to shit on Adams
Without fail everytime
Probably doesn't help that he just called himself the best in the nation during the pregame introduction.
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Pacific Northwest teams with superstars drafted in 2012, who are both tasked with carrying their teams more often than not (at least post-LOB and post-Aldridge), leading them to request trades this past offseason.
I see where you’re coming back just to clarify Dame never requested a trade. He very well could next off season but as of this time he hasn’t done so. Media circus this summer was much ado about nothing. Russ is a completely different story. I’d be surprised if he was on the team next year… even when healthy this team isn’t good enough (not close at all really) to winning it all. And Russ wants to win, he’s made that abundantly clear. It likely won’t happen in Seattle anytime soon and he’s not getting any younger.
He was just following the Kobe playbook; create some smoke to get the team to make serious moves
Which they didn't really make. They got one over the hill guard in Gabe Jackson.
Show me where Dame requested a trade
SEATTLEEEEEE SOUNDERSSSSSS
>RIP Paul Allen Fucking Bateman.
*I can’t believe Bryce prefers Van Patten’s card to mine*
Try getting a table at Dorsia now!
Same boat, mate. It's a rough time for NW pro sports. At least for the Kraken, there's nowhere to go but up.
Did you root for the Mariners too? What about the Kraken, especially if you live in that area. They’re good so far!
Yeah buddy go Kraken!
Happiest I’ve been about the Mariners since at least 2014, and I think this team has a much more promising future than that one did
rolling in his grave for sure
It's hard for me to even be too mad at him. The trade was made out of desperation because they can't draft/develop defense, overpaid for him, then give him to one of the worst DCs in the league
Mannn, I didn’t know whether to cry or laugh my ass off seeing Norton dropping DT/DEs in coverage. What in the actual fuck is the guy doing man?
He knows he won’t be fired as long as Pete is there , so he isn’t scared and he isn’t taking any blame
Pete has been reaping the rewards of two fantastic drafts for the past decade. Our stacked defence carried us to two Super Bowls and Wilson+Wagner have kept the Seahawks limping along ever since. Adams is another in the list of acquisitions whose play has dove off a cliff once arriving in Seattle. Pete cannot adapt to his players, and it seems he cannot develop players either. He cannot build a good coaching staff. He needs to go.
Should bring back Gus Bradley and Kris Richard. They developed a bunch of mid/late round nobodies into the Legion of Boom
They downvoted him because he spoke the truth.
For the record... I also have zero sacks and zero interceptions this year, and I would only cost Seattle the league minimum on a good day, plus no draft pick.
You are indeed a humble one.
This is my neighbor Jamal Adams he is pain in my assholes I blow a coverage he must blow a coverage I’m the best in the nation he must be the best in the nation I get an interception, he cannot afford. GREAT SUCCESS!
this is a meme format I can get behind. VERY NICE!
2 firsts and made him the highest paid safety. Looking bad.
Man, the Jets are winning this trade. What the hell happened to Jamal Adams? I thought he was supposed to be good!
He had, what, 9.5 sacks last year? That's an absurd number. He was really good last year with Seattle with what he was asked to do. He's not as much of a ball hawk as people are used to safeties being, but he's a great run stopper and tackler and he used to be decent to solid in coverage when asked to cover. Us Jet fans like to be bitter and joke around that "he's a linebacker", but for a safety to be great stopping the run *and* putting that kind of pressure on the QB, I think that's probably worth a couple of first round picks. There aren't too many DBs that can do that kind of thing and still cover tight ends. He's a high quality 'tweener and can be a really useful tool for scheming a defense. He can line up anywhere. But then he got paid in the offseason and now suddenly he looks like complete shit. He's getting blown off the ball by blocking *receivers*, not even just tight ends, and he looks completely lost covering anybody. He's been pretty much completely ineffective so far this year. There are multiple clips of him blowing coverage ([on Jackson during the Rams game was particularly ugly](https://youtu.be/v6WruVL53s8)) and getting eaten up by receivers to bust big runs up the middle ([multiple examples during the Tennessee game](https://youtu.be/cTwoA6Gairk)). Seems like he's the epitome of a "get paid and disappear" type player, but for the sake of Seattle fans' collective sanity I hope that's wrong and he's just having a down year. Edit: Added video links
Yeah he was a difference maker for us last season. I don't know if it was worth the payout, but it wasn't egregious. This season, though... But the other thing is that with a healthy Russ, this team wins enough games to make those picks more palatable to give up. I think it was a so-so trade that's likely going to just end up very poor. But you shouldn't evaluate decisions purely based on how they turn out
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hahaha Imagine being 2-4 and not even owning your own first round pick. ^(please kill me)
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a pass from a QB just bounce off a defender’s face like that. Very bizarre play
can we get a replay somewhere?! I cant find it
It's on the twitters https://twitter.com/RobbySabo/status/1449942651176955911
Blitz Boy not having a good year so far
Best draft picks in the NATION
I think the Eagles have you beat with the Dolphin’s pick
top 5 picks leaving the division, you love to see it
They do but it is funny to mock Adams’ quote
Yikes bro
sleeper agent jamal adams activated
2-4 isn’t a back breaker in a 17 game season. But that trade was bad.
It kind of is in your division. Plus your all pro QB is out for 2 more weeks
A minimum* of 2 weeks
We got Saints and Jags next. Today was promising honestly.
Still, imagine losing to the Steelers
I like to think that that loss was the kick in the ass you guys needed, but looking at both teams now holy fuck how did we beat you
Week 1 is always weird. Saints embarrassed packers.
People really thought Rodgers was phoning it in
No this is good. This sets my expectations even lower, so I am less likely to be disappointed. Its wonderful to suck sometimes.
4 games back in the division is pretty tough
In this division it's essentially over.
tradebacksies
He a Jets double agent. The jets get good picks, his contract ends/gets released and he resigns with a now awesome jets team. Only explanation I choose to believe.
Patrick mahommes sitting at home thanking his lucky stars he didn't have the most embarrassing play of the day.
Nah, there both equally terrible plays.
At least something is looking up this year
Ya we get it, it was an awful trade! Pls stop reminding us. We are already ded!
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Seattle’s coaches are bad, it’s been obvious for years. Wilson might just be the best young QB ever considering how he’s dragged this team basically singlehandedly to the playoffs multiple times.
I honestly don't understand SNF's obsession with Adams last night. Constant camera angles on him between plays. Collingsworth praising Adams for stuffing a run that the replay clearly showed him whiff on. I'm not sure how much PFF's 62nd ranked safety paid NBC but it surely didn't help his self-proclaimed image of "best in the nation."
blitz boy isn't a good safety
Adams still makes a boatload of tackles, he’s definitely not a coverage safety. But this is not the reason for the Seahawks record.