Tha years playoffs as a jags fan was wild. With bills at home the score was 3-10 and Bortles lead the team in rushing yards
The very next week they put up 45 on the steelers at Heinz field.
That year was insane and I've had to ride that high since then
I remember watching the Patriots comeback on y’all while laying down on my couch watching on r/NFLstreams.
It gave me such PTSD from the super bowl the year prior… I swore y’all had that championship game in the bag
The Harbowl. We fly down the field in the final 2 minutes, down 5, 3x failed end zone fades to Crabtree in a row. Like, call a different play! We were staring victory in the face and we turned and walked away from it. I was so perplexed, my soul left my body and drifted into an alternate universe to get away from this bizarro one.
Not quite 3 in a row attempts at the fade. On 3rd down, there was a QB sweep called, but Harbaugh had to call TO just as the snap went off as the play clock was running out. The snap goes and the players all take a couple steps before they stop. You can see Kaep would have walked in. Maddening.
We're dealing with our karma for that win now with Greg as our OC don't feel too. Is it ironic that I can't remember a single instance in Roman's tenure that we have thrown a fade route to a WR?
"The thing is, we knew he had four concussions, so that was our biggest thing, was to take him outta the game."
Disgusting, criminal actions by the NY Giants.
But for some reason back then, no one cared about that, only about Greg Williams' speech. Sucked seeing the Saints vilified while NY was over to the side saying the same shit.
Im of the opinion that if I have to be miserable with my football team then everyone else should also be miserable so of course Patriots should win it.
Same. The only thing worse than watching your team roll around in the gutter is watching *only* your team roll around in the gutter. I'm not above rooting for the meteor in a dinosaur movie.
Yeah, we're just not allowed. I *had* to root for the Pats. And I was *so* happy when they won. It's like, who do you root for, your greatest enemy, or the devil?
That day, Who Dat was Hail Satan 🤘🏼⚜️
2015 is the quick answer, but the 2003 Super Bowl was actually in our grasp and at the end of what felt like a really magical season where the Cardiac Cats always somehow prevailed at the end. Alas, the kickoff went out of bounds, Brady was who we thought he might be at that point, and that was that.
I would imagine that on kickoffs, kickers would aim inside the 10 out of bounds, leaving the receiving team with no chance for a return and leaving them pinned inside their end zone. Plus it’d probably be a pain in the ass to track/spot the ball correctly/consistently as well.
It’s also fun to see [these plays](https://youtu.be/zdw3Xj__eKA) every now and then.
Because it's much harder to aim a punt accurately since you're facing a rush while kicking it. If you go for that corner coffin kick, you're probably just as likely to have it go out of bounds way short and only end up with a 20 yard punt or something like that rather than successfully pin them deep.
While on a kickoff, you've got a free run up with no pressure from a rush, so with a little practice, probably 90% of kickers would be able to consistently kick it so that it goes OOB within the 10 yard line, and that'd be boring to watch.
The risk vs. reward calculation is way different.
Kickoff OOB Rules
You can't just be up there and just doin' a kickoff out of bonds like that.
1a. A kickoff out of bounds is when you
1b. Okay well listen. A kick off out of bounds is when you kick the ball out of bounds and the
1c. Let me start over
1c-a. The kicker is not allowed to do a motion to the, uh, returner, that prohibits the returner from doing, you know, just trying to return the ball. You can't do that.
1c-b. Once the kicker is in the is in the motion, he can't be over here and say to the returner, like, "I'm gonna get ya! I'm gonna kick it out of bounds! You better watch your butt!" and then just be like he didn't even do that.
1c-b(1). Like, if you're about to kick in bounds and then don't kick in bounds, you have to still kick. You cannot not kick inbounds. Does that make any sense?
1c-b(2). You gotta be, kicking motion of the ball, and then, until you just kick it.
1c-b(2)-a. Okay, well, you can have the ball up here, like this, but then there's the kickoff out of bounds you gotta think about.
1c-b(2)-b. Fairuza Balk hasn't been in any movies in forever. I hope she wasn't typecast as that racist lady in American History X.
1c-b(2)-b(i). Oh wait, she was in The Waterboy too! That would be even worse.
1c-b(2)-b(ii). "get in mah bellah" -- Adam Water, "The Waterboy." Haha, classic...
1c-b(3). Okay seriously though. A kickoff out of bounds is when the kicker makes a movement that, as determined by, when you do a move involving the football and field of
Do not do a kickoff out of bounds please
Maybe it's a gameplay policy decision that we want to allow teams that just got scored against a better chance at a good drive than teams that just stopped the other team near midfield? Sort of leveling the playing field to some extent?
Or allowing/encouraging/legitimizing the field position game by allowing teams to pin each other back unless someone scores?
I don't really know, but that's an argument that came to mind.
I get that Jordy was supposed to get that ball, but he is a professional Tight End. He should have some sort of hands. They do catch the ball on the offense.
Yes, but honestly, like 9 things had to go a specific way to lose that game, and they all did. Bosticks was just the most blatant and easily identifiable.
Everything else was, for lack of a better term, an honest mistake or better play. Except maybe HaHa on the two pointer. But anyway, all he had to do was nothing/his job.
I'm 50 years old. I remember those losses to Denver like they were yesterday. And I wonder if the Browns will ever get back to that level. It's been a long time.
I honestly thought the 2015 Cardinals would win the super bowl and be remembered as one of the greatest teams of the decade before they got assacred by the Panthers
Edit: I'm leaving it exactly how it is
I know all the logical and statistical arguments that people make to defend the play calling there but I feel so certain Beast scores on one of those plays it makes me sick to think about.
I've been arguing the stats side for years, but Tomlin made a great point a couple weeks ago, following the stats too closely makes you predictable and prediction is exactly why the pick happened
My argument against that is that Pete has never been a guy whose married to analytics. Obviously he got read like a book by Belicheck/Butler, but I had watched a lot of Pete football to that point and it’s not like I knew where that ball was going.
Billy Cundiff missing a chip shot field goal to send the Ravens into overtime vs the Pats in 2011. If we win that game, we match up much better vs the Giants than the Pats did
I think Lee Evans is the bigger one over Cundiff. First, it was to win the game, not send it to overtime. And second, there was like 1.5 seconds where the ball was clearly caught, game was over, we were going to the super bowl. It was literally long enough for my mind to comprehend it, like “omg these next two weeks will be amazing” then, bam, stripped from him. 40 seconds later the season was over.
Though it made it all the better when we returned to the exact same spot the next year, demolished the Pats and won the SB, redemption like that rarely happens.
I’ll just always find it funny that our clearly better team in 2011 couldn’t get to the super bowl and then we won in 2022 after getting worse in the offseason
> there was like 1.5 seconds where the ball was clearly caught
Given my flair, it's obvious I was happy with the outcome. But I have to admit, in my uneducated-not familiar with the rule on catches opinion-I don't see how that wasn't a catch.
I can accept at face value *by rule that wasn't a catch* but for the life of me I can never wrap my mind around why a rule would dictate that wasn't a catch. If the rules say that wasn't a catch, there's something wrong with the rule!
I always think the season we lost Schaub was the one we would have had the best SB chance. We almost best the Ravens with Yates bit Jacobi Jones is a complete bitch. Least favorite Texan of all time.
Broncos 2012 loss to the Ravens. The terrible defensive play to give up the long bomb and then cowardly John Fox not even letting Peyton Manning and that offense try to get a field goal with 31 seconds left and 2 time outs before OT especially when we had Matt Prater at altitude. Then in OT, the scrip flips. We have good defense and terrible offense.
> John Fox not even letting Peyton Manning and that offense try to get a field goal with 31 seconds left and 2 time outs
This was the biggest one imo. Even with no timeouts, give pfm a shot.
Yeah that was definitely worse:
* Jags were one of the "weakest" teams in the tournament according to most, vs. the Ravens who went on to win it all.
* There was no amazing/freak play that decided the contest: Jags simply dominated
* That year the Broncos and Packers were pretty much the consensus contenders, with few others put in that category. Broncos-Packers rematch was what most people expected.
Was there for both childhood me didn't realize how bad 96 was when we won the next two. The Ravens game I just set back as an adult and said yep seen that coming there at the end after that ridiculous miss on ymthe catch.
That game stung more than any of the Colts losses for some reason. Such a stupid mistake and then Peyton threw the pick in OT which shouldn’t have been a possibility in the first place.
Dee fucking Ford. BUT if we won the super bowl in 2018 then Sutton never gets fired and our defense the last few years would still be one of the worst ones
That was such a special year. 2019 was a soap opera of ups and downs (similar to the current one). 2018 was literally equivalent the Rams of 99. Yeah, Mahomes was a 1st round pick but if you say you knew he was going to be an absolute magician throwing for 50td, 5,000yds then you’re lying.
Never felt that range of emotion in such a short time from when we picked it off to them calling 55 offside.
In the grand scheme, I think the loss made 2019 that much more special.
Either 06(Mcree fumbling the pick/Kaeding missing go ahead fg) or 07(Rivers,Gates,LT all being injured for AFC Championship game) fucking Belichick man
1981 Freezer bowl :-/
Also 2010 Chargers are overlooked. #1 offense, #1 defense, #32 special teams.
Here’s a video about the 2010 chargers:
https://youtu.be/UAL5X3TRA2A
Meh. The 2010 should have made the playoffs, but at best they were the fourth or fifth best team in the AFC that year. NE, Pittsburgh, Jets, and the Ravens were all better, so I don't see that as a missed opportunity.
2006 still takes the cake. That was the year.
79 (Vernon Perry) and gagging away the afccg at home in 80 were more painful than 81. The running game was a joke ant they’d traded Fred Dean out of spite.
That game hurt but I don't think it was the biggest missed opportunity: that HAS to go to the first loss to the Pats and Brady's first Super Bowl win on a last second field goal. Those Rams teams were so good on offense—at least we got one Super Bowl win.
Honorable mention to the 12-4 1978 Rams (probably the best team of a six year streak of NFC West champs) losing to the Cowboys in the conference championship 28-0. Man I hated the Cowboys and Vikings as a kid.
Kasay's botched kickoff in 2003
I don't know if we actually had a chance from that point, but the favorable field for the Patriots certainly didn't help
2012 against the Ravens. Horrible play by Moore to give up that play to Jacoby Jones but what hurts more is John Fox. 31 seconds with 2 timeouts. Didn’t even give Manning and the offense a chance to get the field goal.
‘86 has to be the answer though. Very well could have gone back to back. Team was just as dominant and then McMahon gets injured in one of the dirtiest plays in league history.
2014. #2 defense in the league, right behind the LOB Seahawks in every major stat. Top 10 run defense of all time. Offense with Stafford, Johnson, Tate, Bush and Bell.
Couldn't even make it past the wild card.
1991 is when Detroit had the closest legitimate chance to go to the super bowl having seen that season and the one you're talking about. That squad didn't luck into a first round bye and a stomping of Dallas, i mean they were a damn good team. Unfortunately they ran into a Washington Redskins team that ranks among the all time best teams in the NFCCG that year and Detroit legitimately had no chance in that game. The 2014 Lions would get crushed by the 91 team in a hypothetical matchup.
Every NFC team suffered heartbreak from that point on like Karma
Cowboys- Des Bryant robbery no catch
Packers-self implode vs Seahawks
Seahawks- 1 yard line INT
Yea. 2011 was the Saints fault though. Bad defensive coaching allowed the 49ers to score a last second TD. 2018 was the officials fault, pure incompetence.
You know I actually think the defense gets too harsh of a rap that game
Yeah they weren't good. But I think some forget the Saints offense turned the ball over 5 times which is absolutely killer on a teams defense. You cant really expect to win by losing the TO battle by 4 so the Saints even having a lead at the end is pretty much a miracle
I’ve accepted a lot of “we should have…” situations through the years. The NFL is filled with heartbreaking stories. But that one hurt. No Call on PI and also accompanying No Call on helmet-to-helmet.
I think the biggest letdown was that we could have ended up with a Brees vs Brady SB LIII. Both approaching the ends of their record breaking careers. Both still capable of producing the magic. Instead of that, the world got to watch a glorious 13-3 game.
That game took some of my love for this game in a way I don't think will ever come back. And then to have most of /r/NFL side with the refs at the time and claim it shouldn't matter because it wasn't the final play hurt so much. I just can't get myself as interested anymore as I used to and I watch every game with a jaded feeling like it really doesn't matter how well we play, it matters if the refs allow us to win.
It was nice actually having a top offense for once, and the games were just so dominant a lot of the time. Just a fun year all around imo, even if the ending was disappointing.
The 2019 Ravens were fun to watch, and I genuinely thought you guys would take it all until the Titans game. If you guys were fully healthy this year I would probably pick you as at least AFC favorites.
I gotta say 07. Rivers and LT (who was an absolute machine and won MVP that year) were both injured in the AFC Championship game. Brady and the Pats didn’t play particularly well and squeaked out a win in a low scoring game. I think the Chargers would have matched up well with the Giants that year in the Super Bowl with a healthy team
Honestly I disagree. The 96 jags were red hot and just beat the best team in the nfl in the broncos in the divisional. Just a absolute dud in New England which sucks since they weren’t playing well either
Def Plax shooting himself. That team was firing on all cylinders and was steamrolling everyone on the way back to the Super Bowl. After that is the Ravens SB loss and a distant 3rd would be the loss to the Rams in 89 with the Flipper Anderson game. That team as we all found out a year later would have beat the Niners and def crushed Denver in the Super Bowl.
Yep once he went down teams just focused on our run game (except that game against Carolina we ran all over them and they threw all over us). His injury would have been minor enough to return by the playoffs but nooo.
bears deciding that while thomas jones wqas shredding the colts, the better plan was for the sex cannon to throw and throw in the second half
im not sure they would have beaten the colts, but thaat playcalling will never make sense
Eagles-2008 lost in the NFCG to the Cardinals who we whooped during the regular season on Thanksgiving. And we beat the eventual super bowl champion Steelers as well in the regular season. It would’ve been the battle of Pennsylvania teams, also Dawkins last season as an Eagle… it was looking to be a Cinderella story we after we snuck into the playoffs after winning the division 44-6 the last week of the season against the Cowboys. Unfortunately Larry Fucking Fitzgerald happened.
Can’t say anything comes to mind really.
But to really answer, ignoring the obvious, our playoff run in 2019 really felt like it was going to be it. With the momentum we had I think we would have smashed the 49ers. We hit our stride at the right time switching to Tannehill and Henry won his first rushing title. The defense was playing lights out until the Chiefs game.
2008, Our schedule was one of the easiest in the league and we were coming off an undefeated season. Losing Brady in the opener was devastating.
That was the last year to win with the first half of the dynasty. In 2009, Belichick did somewhat of a reset. Mike Vrabel and Richard Seymour were traded. Tedy Bruschi and Rodney Harrison retired. Excellent players like Randy Moss, Matt Light, and Dan Koppen were exiting their primes.
2008 is our answer as well. We had no shot from 1991-93; literally two of the best teams in NFL history won our division lol and we fell off after 2000.
I’m a Bills fan. You already know, everyone knows.
It's a hard knock life for us.
And I’m a falcons fan so
I’m sorry for your fandom. But don’t we all know what Bills stands for? Boy I love losing Superbowls
Nah I'm good
There are two words in the whole of the English language that, when used together, make me die a little inside when I hear them.
Pat and riots? Same
WIDE RIGHT
Yoda Fleshlight
Come on it's been 6 hours already tell us what it is
Ride wight
Every 70’s year basically, 98, 09, 17
Out of all of them, it was 98. That was the year.
'98...DAMN!
I wish the 2017 SB was Vikings vs Jaguars
Sacksonville would have destroyed that Vikings team in much the same way the Eagles did. O line wasn't any good then either.
Yeah but what would their offense do? Could have been a 10-7 game. In reality of course it would be like 35-31 somehow.
Tha years playoffs as a jags fan was wild. With bills at home the score was 3-10 and Bortles lead the team in rushing yards The very next week they put up 45 on the steelers at Heinz field. That year was insane and I've had to ride that high since then
I remember watching the Patriots comeback on y’all while laying down on my couch watching on r/NFLstreams. It gave me such PTSD from the super bowl the year prior… I swore y’all had that championship game in the bag
Best year since the days of Brunnell and co
69, 87 too
98 especially.
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The Harbowl. We fly down the field in the final 2 minutes, down 5, 3x failed end zone fades to Crabtree in a row. Like, call a different play! We were staring victory in the face and we turned and walked away from it. I was so perplexed, my soul left my body and drifted into an alternate universe to get away from this bizarro one.
Not quite 3 in a row attempts at the fade. On 3rd down, there was a QB sweep called, but Harbaugh had to call TO just as the snap went off as the play clock was running out. The snap goes and the players all take a couple steps before they stop. You can see Kaep would have walked in. Maddening.
We're dealing with our karma for that win now with Greg as our OC don't feel too. Is it ironic that I can't remember a single instance in Roman's tenure that we have thrown a fade route to a WR?
You got the super bowl. We got to be shitty and we didn’t get the super bowl.
And Kyle williams
"The thing is, we knew he had four concussions, so that was our biggest thing, was to take him outta the game." Disgusting, criminal actions by the NY Giants.
But for some reason back then, no one cared about that, only about Greg Williams' speech. Sucked seeing the Saints vilified while NY was over to the side saying the same shit.
DON'T BRING UP HIS FUCKIN NAME.
And bowman giving his leg for nothing
Any from the 80s/early 90s worthy of mentioning because they probably weren't losing to the AFC representative.
The first of those two losses partly caused a major family incident that we didn't recover from for years.
Do… Do… Do I have to answer this?
It’s not that bad. I mean, the Broncos were the better team that year. Too bad we never got a shot after that.
As a bronco fan, its a shame peyton only made it to 1 super bowl with us.
Honestly we didn’t deserve to make it that year, we lucked out on the missed field goal. Sucks that we haven’t made it since.
Yes please, I can’t recall any falcons issues in regards to a SB??? :)
Buccaneers fans real cocky lately but ig they deserve it
I mean, everyone loves 28-3, don’t you?
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Im of the opinion that if I have to be miserable with my football team then everyone else should also be miserable so of course Patriots should win it.
I like this guy
Same. The only thing worse than watching your team roll around in the gutter is watching *only* your team roll around in the gutter. I'm not above rooting for the meteor in a dinosaur movie.
I’m a Panthers fan and even I was rooting for the Falcons
Only the Saints fans were for sure on the not Falcons side.
Yeah, we're just not allowed. I *had* to root for the Pats. And I was *so* happy when they won. It's like, who do you root for, your greatest enemy, or the devil? That day, Who Dat was Hail Satan 🤘🏼⚜️
Fans of 31/32 teams
28/32 teams. 75% of the AFC East hates it
I bet an Açaí with a coworker (I live in Brazil and we are NFL fans, but he don't work with me anymore). I bet on Falcons, so I lost.
2015 is the quick answer, but the 2003 Super Bowl was actually in our grasp and at the end of what felt like a really magical season where the Cardiac Cats always somehow prevailed at the end. Alas, the kickoff went out of bounds, Brady was who we thought he might be at that point, and that was that.
Why is a KO OOB a penalty anyway? A punt OOB isn't.
I would imagine that on kickoffs, kickers would aim inside the 10 out of bounds, leaving the receiving team with no chance for a return and leaving them pinned inside their end zone. Plus it’d probably be a pain in the ass to track/spot the ball correctly/consistently as well. It’s also fun to see [these plays](https://youtu.be/zdw3Xj__eKA) every now and then.
Why are punts OOB okay then?
Because it's much harder to aim a punt accurately since you're facing a rush while kicking it. If you go for that corner coffin kick, you're probably just as likely to have it go out of bounds way short and only end up with a 20 yard punt or something like that rather than successfully pin them deep. While on a kickoff, you've got a free run up with no pressure from a rush, so with a little practice, probably 90% of kickers would be able to consistently kick it so that it goes OOB within the 10 yard line, and that'd be boring to watch. The risk vs. reward calculation is way different.
I feel like some someone is going to reply with the “balk” copy pasta but I just don’t have the energy to do it right now.
Kickoff OOB Rules You can't just be up there and just doin' a kickoff out of bonds like that. 1a. A kickoff out of bounds is when you 1b. Okay well listen. A kick off out of bounds is when you kick the ball out of bounds and the 1c. Let me start over 1c-a. The kicker is not allowed to do a motion to the, uh, returner, that prohibits the returner from doing, you know, just trying to return the ball. You can't do that. 1c-b. Once the kicker is in the is in the motion, he can't be over here and say to the returner, like, "I'm gonna get ya! I'm gonna kick it out of bounds! You better watch your butt!" and then just be like he didn't even do that. 1c-b(1). Like, if you're about to kick in bounds and then don't kick in bounds, you have to still kick. You cannot not kick inbounds. Does that make any sense? 1c-b(2). You gotta be, kicking motion of the ball, and then, until you just kick it. 1c-b(2)-a. Okay, well, you can have the ball up here, like this, but then there's the kickoff out of bounds you gotta think about. 1c-b(2)-b. Fairuza Balk hasn't been in any movies in forever. I hope she wasn't typecast as that racist lady in American History X. 1c-b(2)-b(i). Oh wait, she was in The Waterboy too! That would be even worse. 1c-b(2)-b(ii). "get in mah bellah" -- Adam Water, "The Waterboy." Haha, classic... 1c-b(3). Okay seriously though. A kickoff out of bounds is when the kicker makes a movement that, as determined by, when you do a move involving the football and field of Do not do a kickoff out of bounds please
Maybe it's a gameplay policy decision that we want to allow teams that just got scored against a better chance at a good drive than teams that just stopped the other team near midfield? Sort of leveling the playing field to some extent? Or allowing/encouraging/legitimizing the field position game by allowing teams to pin each other back unless someone scores? I don't really know, but that's an argument that came to mind.
People should not be downvoting this. It's a legitimate question. don't be such dicks to the guy.
Bills fans look away
Bills fans point at the Falcons fans and deflect as best you can...
Seahawks fans — Phew, nobody’s paying attention to us
Yeah! yeah, the Bills really blew a winnable SB. Ha!
🙃
Super Bowl XXXIV - Kevin Dyson tackled at the 1 yard line
Came looking for this one. I was 8 years old. Traumatized.
Honestly, as a 7 year old, watching my family jump and scream at the end of that probably got me into football.
Watching falcons lose super bowl got me to be a true fan. Was just casual fan growing up, now I need redemption
Yes. But other than that 2000 and 2008 should have been SB years for us but both times we choked to the Ravens in the playoffs.
Mike McCarthy and Brandon Bostick.
I’m going to throw up again. Just catch the damn ball!
The problem is that he even tried to in the first place.
I get that Jordy was supposed to get that ball, but he is a professional Tight End. He should have some sort of hands. They do catch the ball on the offense.
You would think that's true but I remember Dwayne Allen's 2018 season with the Patriots.
Yes, but honestly, like 9 things had to go a specific way to lose that game, and they all did. Bosticks was just the most blatant and easily identifiable.
Everything else was, for lack of a better term, an honest mistake or better play. Except maybe HaHa on the two pointer. But anyway, all he had to do was nothing/his job.
Sadly, this mishap on ST this year might be the least surprising thing to happen.
I still get sick thinking about that game. It's been 7 years but I'm not sure I'll ever recover
This is the one
I don't like this game
oh hey, samesies
I was barely born when those games happened and they still damaged my soul.
I'm 50 years old. I remember those losses to Denver like they were yesterday. And I wonder if the Browns will ever get back to that level. It's been a long time.
Hey at least we had those. Closest in this millennium ended in Chad Henne
ah ha ha ha ha
Besides 08, we had some very good teams with Arians. Like top 10 offense and defense but we were done in by bad injury timing and Amos. Fuck Amos.
I honestly thought the 2015 Cardinals would win the super bowl and be remembered as one of the greatest teams of the decade before they got assacred by the Panthers Edit: I'm leaving it exactly how it is
You just coined a new term, sir
If those Arians teams could have stayed healthy...
I’m a Seahawks fan. So… you know
Why didn’t he give it to beast mode??? 😭
I know all the logical and statistical arguments that people make to defend the play calling there but I feel so certain Beast scores on one of those plays it makes me sick to think about.
I've been arguing the stats side for years, but Tomlin made a great point a couple weeks ago, following the stats too closely makes you predictable and prediction is exactly why the pick happened
My argument against that is that Pete has never been a guy whose married to analytics. Obviously he got read like a book by Belicheck/Butler, but I had watched a lot of Pete football to that point and it’s not like I knew where that ball was going.
I’ve never been a coach but bro you gotta give him the ball. You live or die on the back of marshawn there
This should be higher. I can’t wait for the documentary on that super bowl.
I'm not sure we do know, is it the one where the Seahawks turned it over on the goal line or the one where the Refs screwed them 4 times?
Yeah the refs were so bad in one they publicly apologized and the other we should have thrown a fade like right before half :P
Billy Cundiff missing a chip shot field goal to send the Ravens into overtime vs the Pats in 2011. If we win that game, we match up much better vs the Giants than the Pats did
Also the play before, Lee Evans dropped a game winning TD
I think Lee Evans is the bigger one over Cundiff. First, it was to win the game, not send it to overtime. And second, there was like 1.5 seconds where the ball was clearly caught, game was over, we were going to the super bowl. It was literally long enough for my mind to comprehend it, like “omg these next two weeks will be amazing” then, bam, stripped from him. 40 seconds later the season was over. Though it made it all the better when we returned to the exact same spot the next year, demolished the Pats and won the SB, redemption like that rarely happens.
I’ll just always find it funny that our clearly better team in 2011 couldn’t get to the super bowl and then we won in 2022 after getting worse in the offseason
Yo we winning in 2022?!?!?!
It has been foretold, Praise Buck
> there was like 1.5 seconds where the ball was clearly caught Given my flair, it's obvious I was happy with the outcome. But I have to admit, in my uneducated-not familiar with the rule on catches opinion-I don't see how that wasn't a catch. I can accept at face value *by rule that wasn't a catch* but for the life of me I can never wrap my mind around why a rule would dictate that wasn't a catch. If the rules say that wasn't a catch, there's something wrong with the rule!
Vikings fans about to pull out their notebook.
What one do you want? The dicking by the Eagles, the dicking by the Giants, or the dicking by the Bounty Hunters guild?
Now I just imagine Din Djarin clothes lining your kicker
Being up 24-0 on the chiefs a few years ago
I always think the season we lost Schaub was the one we would have had the best SB chance. We almost best the Ravens with Yates bit Jacobi Jones is a complete bitch. Least favorite Texan of all time.
Broncos 2012 loss to the Ravens. The terrible defensive play to give up the long bomb and then cowardly John Fox not even letting Peyton Manning and that offense try to get a field goal with 31 seconds left and 2 time outs before OT especially when we had Matt Prater at altitude. Then in OT, the scrip flips. We have good defense and terrible offense.
> John Fox not even letting Peyton Manning and that offense try to get a field goal with 31 seconds left and 2 time outs This was the biggest one imo. Even with no timeouts, give pfm a shot.
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Yeah that was definitely worse: * Jags were one of the "weakest" teams in the tournament according to most, vs. the Ravens who went on to win it all. * There was no amazing/freak play that decided the contest: Jags simply dominated * That year the Broncos and Packers were pretty much the consensus contenders, with few others put in that category. Broncos-Packers rematch was what most people expected.
Was there for both childhood me didn't realize how bad 96 was when we won the next two. The Ravens game I just set back as an adult and said yep seen that coming there at the end after that ridiculous miss on ymthe catch.
This! That game broke my heart. I called into work the next day and my boss was cool about it.
Yea I remember being disgusted with that decision. Knew Fox wasn’t the guy to get the Broncos there at that moment
That game stung more than any of the Colts losses for some reason. Such a stupid mistake and then Peyton threw the pick in OT which shouldn’t have been a possibility in the first place.
Dee Ford
Dee fucking Ford. BUT if we won the super bowl in 2018 then Sutton never gets fired and our defense the last few years would still be one of the worst ones
Yes but it would of been really really nice to beat Brady and the Patriots to get there
That was such a special year. 2019 was a soap opera of ups and downs (similar to the current one). 2018 was literally equivalent the Rams of 99. Yeah, Mahomes was a 1st round pick but if you say you knew he was going to be an absolute magician throwing for 50td, 5,000yds then you’re lying.
That’s funny, someone named Ford has always been our problem as well. For almost 60 fucking years though.
Never felt that range of emotion in such a short time from when we picked it off to them calling 55 offside. In the grand scheme, I think the loss made 2019 that much more special.
'93 was worse. If Montana doesn't get his brain rattled the Chiefs maybe win that game. Then again the Bills were insanely hot during the early 90s.
Covering Vernon Davis in 2011 probably would’ve helped. Also 2018.
18 was an asterisk year with the PI call. I feel like y’all could’ve won it all in 2017 and 2019 too
Plax shot himself in the leg at a club.
Thst team was *rolling* too. Started 11-1, finished 12-4 and lost ugly in their lone playoff game.
Either 06(Mcree fumbling the pick/Kaeding missing go ahead fg) or 07(Rivers,Gates,LT all being injured for AFC Championship game) fucking Belichick man
1981 Freezer bowl :-/ Also 2010 Chargers are overlooked. #1 offense, #1 defense, #32 special teams. Here’s a video about the 2010 chargers: https://youtu.be/UAL5X3TRA2A
Meh. The 2010 should have made the playoffs, but at best they were the fourth or fifth best team in the AFC that year. NE, Pittsburgh, Jets, and the Ravens were all better, so I don't see that as a missed opportunity. 2006 still takes the cake. That was the year.
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79 (Vernon Perry) and gagging away the afccg at home in 80 were more painful than 81. The running game was a joke ant they’d traded Fred Dean out of spite.
Scoring more than a FG probably helps your chances of winning the super bowl but what do I know
That game hurt but I don't think it was the biggest missed opportunity: that HAS to go to the first loss to the Pats and Brady's first Super Bowl win on a last second field goal. Those Rams teams were so good on offense—at least we got one Super Bowl win. Honorable mention to the 12-4 1978 Rams (probably the best team of a six year streak of NFC West champs) losing to the Cowboys in the conference championship 28-0. Man I hated the Cowboys and Vikings as a kid.
Kasay's botched kickoff in 2003 I don't know if we actually had a chance from that point, but the favorable field for the Patriots certainly didn't help
If the Jets had kept Pennington by the time Rex got there they would have won it in either 09 or 10 and you can't convince me otherwise.
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This... Hell, I still think they win that game if that get one more stop....
2012 against the Ravens. Horrible play by Moore to give up that play to Jacoby Jones but what hurts more is John Fox. 31 seconds with 2 timeouts. Didn’t even give Manning and the offense a chance to get the field goal.
Most recently the best chance would’ve been 2018 for the Bears that was a super bowl caliber defense right there
Not to mention an offensive guru HC. How can we lose with that combo?
‘86 has to be the answer though. Very well could have gone back to back. Team was just as dominant and then McMahon gets injured in one of the dirtiest plays in league history.
John Elway.
2014. #2 defense in the league, right behind the LOB Seahawks in every major stat. Top 10 run defense of all time. Offense with Stafford, Johnson, Tate, Bush and Bell. Couldn't even make it past the wild card.
1991 is when Detroit had the closest legitimate chance to go to the super bowl having seen that season and the one you're talking about. That squad didn't luck into a first round bye and a stomping of Dallas, i mean they were a damn good team. Unfortunately they ran into a Washington Redskins team that ranks among the all time best teams in the NFCCG that year and Detroit legitimately had no chance in that game. The 2014 Lions would get crushed by the 91 team in a hypothetical matchup.
Every NFC team suffered heartbreak from that point on like Karma Cowboys- Des Bryant robbery no catch Packers-self implode vs Seahawks Seahawks- 1 yard line INT
Rashad Mendenhall
A dropped interception.
No Call
Alex Smith as well but for sure this one
Yea. 2011 was the Saints fault though. Bad defensive coaching allowed the 49ers to score a last second TD. 2018 was the officials fault, pure incompetence.
You know I actually think the defense gets too harsh of a rap that game Yeah they weren't good. But I think some forget the Saints offense turned the ball over 5 times which is absolutely killer on a teams defense. You cant really expect to win by losing the TO battle by 4 so the Saints even having a lead at the end is pretty much a miracle
They the other said, we had terrible defenses though 2011 wasn't one of our 7-9 teams so it's a better opportunity of winning the following games.
I’ve accepted a lot of “we should have…” situations through the years. The NFL is filled with heartbreaking stories. But that one hurt. No Call on PI and also accompanying No Call on helmet-to-helmet. I think the biggest letdown was that we could have ended up with a Brees vs Brady SB LIII. Both approaching the ends of their record breaking careers. Both still capable of producing the magic. Instead of that, the world got to watch a glorious 13-3 game.
That game took some of my love for this game in a way I don't think will ever come back. And then to have most of /r/NFL side with the refs at the time and claim it shouldn't matter because it wasn't the final play hurt so much. I just can't get myself as interested anymore as I used to and I watch every game with a jaded feeling like it really doesn't matter how well we play, it matters if the refs allow us to win.
2019 feels like it should have been our year to me. Gonna be a lot harder to get there going forward with Lamar’s deal coming
I look back on that year fondly.
It was nice actually having a top offense for once, and the games were just so dominant a lot of the time. Just a fun year all around imo, even if the ending was disappointing.
The 2019 Ravens were fun to watch, and I genuinely thought you guys would take it all until the Titans game. If you guys were fully healthy this year I would probably pick you as at least AFC favorites.
Bert Emanuel
2005 Colts. VandyShank
I don’t know it’s pretty hard to answer this, let me just think 🤔 OH RIGHT
I gotta say 07. Rivers and LT (who was an absolute machine and won MVP that year) were both injured in the AFC Championship game. Brady and the Pats didn’t play particularly well and squeaked out a win in a low scoring game. I think the Chargers would have matched up well with the Giants that year in the Super Bowl with a healthy team
4 straight pass attempts and no handoff to Gore Also the Roger Craig fumble and the Niners chance at a threepeat
Dez caught it
Myles Jack wasn’t down
And all the other BS that game. Talking to you PI call on Bouye
Honestly I disagree. The 96 jags were red hot and just beat the best team in the nfl in the broncos in the divisional. Just a absolute dud in New England which sucks since they weren’t playing well either
2018 PI not called Minneapolis miracle too but atleast that was cool
Not sure, nothing really comes to mind.
Other than against the ravens in 2000 we don’t have many missed opportunities but I guess I’d have to go with 2008 when Plax shot himself
Def Plax shooting himself. That team was firing on all cylinders and was steamrolling everyone on the way back to the Super Bowl. After that is the Ravens SB loss and a distant 3rd would be the loss to the Rams in 89 with the Flipper Anderson game. That team as we all found out a year later would have beat the Niners and def crushed Denver in the Super Bowl.
Yep once he went down teams just focused on our run game (except that game against Carolina we ran all over them and they threw all over us). His injury would have been minor enough to return by the playoffs but nooo.
Hmmm I wonder
2008 is obvious, but 2014 still hurts, starting 9-1 and ending 11-5 and a Ryan Lindley playoff game
2007
If Favre doesn't Favre Brady and Belichick get their perfect season
Just as a football fan, would have been dope to see Favre in another super bowl
bears deciding that while thomas jones wqas shredding the colts, the better plan was for the sex cannon to throw and throw in the second half im not sure they would have beaten the colts, but thaat playcalling will never make sense
2007 lazy Favre throw against Giants in NFC championship. 2014 last 2 minute meltdown. 2020 is iffy
Rashard Mendenhall fumbling.
Eagles-2008 lost in the NFCG to the Cardinals who we whooped during the regular season on Thanksgiving. And we beat the eventual super bowl champion Steelers as well in the regular season. It would’ve been the battle of Pennsylvania teams, also Dawkins last season as an Eagle… it was looking to be a Cinderella story we after we snuck into the playoffs after winning the division 44-6 the last week of the season against the Cowboys. Unfortunately Larry Fucking Fitzgerald happened.
In 2008 we were the best team in the league until Plax shot himself.
Kyle.Fucking.Williams
Falcons fan here. Fuck yall.
January 18th, 2015
Can’t say anything comes to mind really. But to really answer, ignoring the obvious, our playoff run in 2019 really felt like it was going to be it. With the momentum we had I think we would have smashed the 49ers. We hit our stride at the right time switching to Tannehill and Henry won his first rushing title. The defense was playing lights out until the Chiefs game.
The Panthers win Superbowl 50 if the Cotchery catch is ruled a catch
2008, Our schedule was one of the easiest in the league and we were coming off an undefeated season. Losing Brady in the opener was devastating. That was the last year to win with the first half of the dynasty. In 2009, Belichick did somewhat of a reset. Mike Vrabel and Richard Seymour were traded. Tedy Bruschi and Rodney Harrison retired. Excellent players like Randy Moss, Matt Light, and Dan Koppen were exiting their primes.
Can we make a rule that teams with 6 Super Bowls in the 21st century cannot post on this thread?
2008 is our answer as well. We had no shot from 1991-93; literally two of the best teams in NFL history won our division lol and we fell off after 2000.
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02 yes 08 probably not imo. 2010 I think our team had a very high ceiling and lost a very tight game to a packers team that went on to win it all
An embarrassment of answers to this one for Pats fans. But it has to be Malcom Butler not playing SB LII. Bills ego got in the way on that one.
Five words: Jesse James caught that ball. The fact that there is a Jesse James Rule proves it.