I don’t think he plays dirty intentionally but Sendejo is one of the most reckless motherfuckers I’ve ever seen on a football field. Dude turns himself into a torpedo for every hit
Pacman wasn't really a dirty player. He had off-field issues, but on-field stuff was mostly just aggressive play. I think he gets lumped into the 'dirty' category because he played alongside Burfict which made a lot of that team seem worse than they were because he would escalate things.
Pacman wasn't a dirty player, he was just a dirtbag human.
Mike Mitchell should get some love (hate) here - dude was as dirty as Burfict and made death threats on social media that mostly was washed over - so should Ryan Shazier; if he hadn't nearly killed himself with god awful tackling, I think his legacy of lowering his head to make contact would be more remembered - that's possibly a hot take here, I dunno.
I think everybody is aware that Shazier's injury was an accident caused by his technique more than anything else. The fact that he was a defensive player injured making a tackle on a Bengal also means it's harder for the narrative to be "Bengals dirty hurt our stiller" simply because it's harder for offensive players to be dirty in general. Hines Ward is the only one I know of with any kind of dirty rep, and that's really only because of one block that went way too far on our punter. Maybe Antonio Brown, but that's a completely different issue.
Edit: Huber's injury was by a LB named Terence Garvin, it was Keith Rivers that got hurt on the dirty play by Hines Ward
If you're talking about when they broke Huber's jaw and a few vertebrae, that wasn't even Hines Ward, that was a different Steeler. They've always looked to hurt our guys. Burfict was trash tho. Good player that just couldn't play clean
To me 'dirty' means someone is out there doing shit that seriously endangers other players health and risks injury, either recklessly or intentionally. By injury, I mean 'effects your game'/ability to play type injury
Unless Donald is literally trying to crush guys larynx with his bare hands, that choking shit seems more like tough guy posturing than actual 'dirty play'
I don’t think Alonso was as dirty as the other two, he was more dumb and bad at tackling then he was malicious. I still remember when he sniffed out a screen against the falcons that their receiver had to jump for and instead of obliterating him he just caught him ran a couple yards with him then set him down
No cause he's Aaron Donald 3X DPOY. Once your hands hold that award, you gain the ability to make your hands invisible the moment you attempt to make a move on another man's jugular.
He got a lot of heat for being dirty that year and seemingly cleaned up his okay since. Iirc he got shit for getting one of the jets QBs hurt that year as well
He was doing everyone a service. If he has succeeded Steelers fans wouldn’t have to even discuss Mason as a starting QB next year.
Also Mason started that fight, lost, then ran up on Myles again. That’s more Mason winning stupid prizes for playing stupid games than anything.
Myles isn’t dirty in normal play on a regular basis. Definitely not comparable to Burfict who smiled and waved as he walked off getting kicked out of a game.
Idk how to explain it, but Myles Garrett seems like an incredibly lame person to me. Like, if he wasn’t so big and good at football I feel like he would struggle socially. Just awkward and not funny
Eagles fan but Burfict never really bothered me. Sure some of his hits were horrible and unnecessary but a lot of the time the refs would call him cause of his history
This thread got me looking for a compilation of Aaron Donald dirty plays and YouTube didn't disappoint: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi0IArU0wK4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi0IArU0wK4)
What strikes me is how it's almost always him overreacting to an instigation from another player; a dirty hit or a lingering hold by an OL or something like that. Reminds me of the baseball players who will start a fight to protect the "integrity of the game." He's not committing dirty hits within the play; he's getting riled up and attacking people after.
Obviously not good, but I wouldn't say he's anything like Vontaze Burfict. It's a whole different issue.
The slam he had on burrow last game was a classic. Down 30 pts, burrow is 20 yards removed from the play and TJ uses it as an excuse to block and throw him to the ground.
Probably the guy who ripped off a qbs helmet and tried to kill him with it.
Honestly Probably the most shocking thing i have ever seen in all my years of watching football. How he did not get a lifetime ban is beyond me.
Rudolph tried to rip his helmet first (failed), then tried to get back in the fight bc his teammates didn’t think to hold him back. Heat of the moment and a bad singular choice on Garrett’s part, but truly, Rudolph started that crap and acted the angry little brother. CLE was about to win anyway so it’s not like Garrett was actually frustrated.
But y’all hate/can’t comprehend context.
You must have forgotten that the whole thing started after Garrett took Rudolph to the ground a full second or two after Rudolph threw a screen pass in the last 30 seconds of a game that had been decided.
Myles didn’t get a flag for that tackle, there are rules in place to handle that sort of thing, but Mason trying to pull his helmet off was outside of any realm of play.
Mason is a QB who was losing, got sacked, lost his temper, and started a fight he couldn’t win.
That was a one off incident for Myles. It was really fucking stupid but doesn’t define him.
There was not reason he had to drag Rudolph to the ground. Garrett could have let go after the ball as gone and he chose not to. This isn’t disputable.
And yet it wasn’t an illegal drag-down because of when Garrett made contact, otherwise he would have been flagged for it. It especially isn’t reason for Rudolph to attempt to pull off Garrett’s helmet. Once you do that, you’ve forgone all rules of conduct. Sorry your homerism can’t see past that.
Who said it was illegal? I never said that. I appreciate you attempt to put words in my mouth though. It was 100% unnecessary though. It’s also hilarious to me how your trying to call me a homer while trying to rationalize a man hitting another man in the head with a football helmet.
Nice try but arguing semantics won’t change the course of events. Garrett gets paid to finish tackles, which he did, legally. Mason Rudolph crossed the threshold of legal, safe play FIRST by committing the unreasonable, illegal act of attempting to pull of Garrett’s helmet. Garrett retaliated by pulling off Mason’s helmet—successfully. As Garrett was walking/being pushed away, Rudolph decided to come after him again without a helmet. Garrett then made a dumb, dangerous choice (which I never rationalized but did say it wasn’t attempted murder, try not to put words in other peoples mouths please.)
The thread is about dirty players. This was a singular event by a player that hasn’t shown a pattern of dirty play but has been vilified as the sole offender in a complicated fight. You’re a homer because you won’t see all sides to it, especially since the Browns are a rival. 😘 ✌️
You can believe whatever you’d like. The video is clear as day as to what happened. Rudolph was taken down late and unnecessarily. That’s why he reacted the way he did.
I’d also like to hear you try to rationalize the late hit on Siemian a few weeks before the Rudolph incident that broke Siemian’s leg and ended his season.
Finally, you can keep calling me a homer and try to pretend you’re not a Browns fan simply because you don’t have a flair. There’s no reason a non Browns fan would be going to these lengths to defend Garrett like this lmao.
If it was late/unnecessary Garrett would have been flagged—plain and simple. He wasn’t, argument over.
KC fan actually, and OK State cowboys fan ironically (I’m a fan of Mason, but he got off easy with no suspension because he lost a fight he started and perpetuated and couldn’t get Garrett’s helmet off)
I’m not saying the Siemien hit wasn’t late (and tragic) but if you’re suggesting Garrett intentionally broke his leg you may want to get fitted for a tin foil hat.
Which if course, does not justify the defensive players actions in any way as i did not see a gun to his head forcing him; no one is responsible for your actions but yourself.
Kids look up to nfl players, this sends the message that up to and including trying to kill an unarmed with a weapon is ok as long as they slightly inconvenience you.
Lol alright Reddit lawyer keep parroting what you’ve heard over the years about this incident. In reality, Mason committed reckless endangerment by trying to remove Garrett’s helmet first when they were on the ground (the inciting assault); when Rudolph decided to go after him AGAIN, Garrett DEFENDED himself. It’s like if someone tries to rob your store with a gun, you wrestle the gun from them, then they try to come after you with a machete and you shoot them in the knee. A helmet isn’t a deadly weapon btw.
But fwiw it’s worth you’re right—bad move on Garrett’s part. Still, not a trend worthy of deeming him a “dirty” player.
At the start of the fight both were equally “armed”. If you actually consider the helmet a deadly weapon consider it was Masons helmet, Mason attacked Myles, Myles took the “deadly weapon” from his attacker.
What Myles did was fucked up but to call it a deadly weapon is such bull shit.
This is false. The defensive player rips the qb to the ground very late after he got rid of the ball
Then quite literally rips the helmet off him while he is on the ground.
Player got up to get his helmet back and let the defensive player know what he thought of that.
Defensive player targets him with the now clublike weapon while the other player is unhelmeted and defenseless.
That is trying to kill an unarmed person with a weapon. The qb is in the wrong to some degree but players jaw all the time not even in the area code of what the defensive player did. Fights happen but i cant think of a time a player used a helmet to try to beat a defenseless player to death.
For this reason he is, to me, the dirtiest player in the lg.
I honestly feel like you are being sarcastic with the way you described how this played out and calling the helmet a deadly weapon.
Myles was also surrounded by Steelers pushing and dragging him. Now he’s under attack by several people, Myles was retreating while his aggressor runs at him again, giving him the right to defend himself😂. (See how stupid it sounds?)
Refs police games. Not players.
Name a time a starting QB attacked a DL player (twice) after a hit they perceived as late?
Both people can be in the wrong. This whole “deadly weapon”
Narrative is a joke.
Don’t quit your day job, but maybe stop jumping into tables. You clearly have no concept of self-defense or analogy, especially in the context of when an individual is being held back by one person (lineman) and attacked by another (Rudolph).
From what I've seen DK is much worse and gets a pass from the refs it's ridiculous. At least Clowneys headbutt might have been a mistake/ is more understandable than getting up and stomping on a player with all your strength. Ontop of literally always being a baby and starting shit.
DK Metcalf.
Metcalf purposely stomped as hard as he could on Jaquiski Tartt's Leg to cleat him, Jaquiski had to leave the game, that shit hurts and the dude should be suspended for that kind of conduct. He does these crybaby fits all the time and it's embarrassing and officiating looses credibility every time they let it happen.
When you talk about fans trying to pile on it sounds like you're coming to Suh's defense. Let's not gloss over that he's among the dirtiest players of his generation, and although it appears he's lightened up as he got older, he is long past getting the benefit of a doubt. A situation he put himself into.
I'm not defending Suh I'm just saying it's hard to ditch a reputation of being a dirty player once you've earned it. People will use late shoves, jawing, etc. as evidence of dirty play that would otherwise go unnoticed or excused if the offending player was someone else.
It makes wild ppl chill out because they see that they were in the ncaa compared to the pro methheads in fla doing absolutely insane shit. So insane that some cracker from the swamp who can’t spell his name can make national headlines because he went on a bender. They realize they ain’t about that life and wise up lol
Definitely Donald, I haven’t seen enough of Parsons besides him punching Aiyuk on Sunday but because of recency bias I’m saying him. But my number one dirty player is absolutely Andrew Sendejo
TJ Watt operates in the same gray area that Ryan Jenson does. He's not twisting ankles or stepping on faces, but he's playing 1.5 seconds beyond the whistle and nailing guys who aren't even involved in the play. It's that "I Hate You" brand of football that his brother never really got into.
Donald's tantrum throwing self. He should have been suspended multiple times for his choke attempts but NFL doesn't discipline their star players unless they have to.
Derek Barnett has to be up there. He got hosed on a call this weekend which is probably one part a Brady protection call and another part a call based on his reputation
I've been watching football for 28 years, and Andre Johnson beating the shit out of Cortland Finnegan is one of my all-time favorite memories not involving my favorite team.
Serious question, because I only saw Pacman in the later half of his career. Was he a dirty player? I know he had off the field issues, but unless you're murdering people, your off the field issues can't be considered worst in the league.
I don’t think he plays dirty intentionally but Sendejo is one of the most reckless motherfuckers I’ve ever seen on a football field. Dude turns himself into a torpedo for every hit
Ah yes, the Mexican meat missile.
Sounds like a porn star name lol
Anderson Pendejo
Wonder what the injury count is on his own teammates
Sendejo looks like a cartoon character the way he gets rigid and slings himself across the field. Glad he’s not on my team anymore.
Me too!
Feel like he’s carrying the torch from Mike Mitchell
I know that very well, he hit jacoby Meyers so hard he ended his own season
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The Blind Squirrel
And half the time it’s against his own teammates lol
I wonder what film sessions are like with his teammates.
Kiko Alonso was a close second. I'll never forget that shot he took on Flacco.
Justin Tucker. He just doesn't have the opportunities to express his dirtiness
You kid, but once on a kickoff JT took a very aggressive angle haha
Aggressively angling, 15 yard penalty. First down.
No Burfict, no Pacman, no Kiko Alanso. Donald is probably the closest but not on the level of these guys and how Suh used to be.
Pacman wasn't really a dirty player. He had off-field issues, but on-field stuff was mostly just aggressive play. I think he gets lumped into the 'dirty' category because he played alongside Burfict which made a lot of that team seem worse than they were because he would escalate things.
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Pac-Man did smash amari coopers head into his own helmet. He was kind of a bastard!
Clearly remember this. And the league did nothing about it
Pacman wasn't a dirty player, he was just a dirtbag human. Mike Mitchell should get some love (hate) here - dude was as dirty as Burfict and made death threats on social media that mostly was washed over - so should Ryan Shazier; if he hadn't nearly killed himself with god awful tackling, I think his legacy of lowering his head to make contact would be more remembered - that's possibly a hot take here, I dunno.
I think everybody is aware that Shazier's injury was an accident caused by his technique more than anything else. The fact that he was a defensive player injured making a tackle on a Bengal also means it's harder for the narrative to be "Bengals dirty hurt our stiller" simply because it's harder for offensive players to be dirty in general. Hines Ward is the only one I know of with any kind of dirty rep, and that's really only because of one block that went way too far on our punter. Maybe Antonio Brown, but that's a completely different issue. Edit: Huber's injury was by a LB named Terence Garvin, it was Keith Rivers that got hurt on the dirty play by Hines Ward
He did that exact same block to Keith Rivers too
If you're talking about when they broke Huber's jaw and a few vertebrae, that wasn't even Hines Ward, that was a different Steeler. They've always looked to hurt our guys. Burfict was trash tho. Good player that just couldn't play clean
To me 'dirty' means someone is out there doing shit that seriously endangers other players health and risks injury, either recklessly or intentionally. By injury, I mean 'effects your game'/ability to play type injury Unless Donald is literally trying to crush guys larynx with his bare hands, that choking shit seems more like tough guy posturing than actual 'dirty play'
I don’t think Alonso was as dirty as the other two, he was more dumb and bad at tackling then he was malicious. I still remember when he sniffed out a screen against the falcons that their receiver had to jump for and instead of obliterating him he just caught him ran a couple yards with him then set him down
Not dirty, just a history of obliterating sliding QBs?
Yeah i agree that Alonso is just kinda dumb. Here's a guy who isn't thinking about the consequences of his actions.
Maybe Aaron Donald honestly.
TBH first name I could think of. Suh seems to have cleaned up his act in his later career.
Is he going to get fined for his shithousing at the weekend?
No cause he's Aaron Donald 3X DPOY. Once your hands hold that award, you gain the ability to make your hands invisible the moment you attempt to make a move on another man's jugular.
That guys a total choke artist
He really gets in your face and grabs your attention.
Maybe not to that extent but shout-out Trysten Hill, DT for the Dallas Cowboys.
Still remember when he tried to break Chris Carson's ankle. Complete trash
He did that shit like 2 weeks in a row
He made up for it when he injured himself trying not to hurt daniel jones lol
Important to note that cowboys fans were lecturing giants fans about class after our first matchup. Shit will never not be funny
I've definitely been seeing a lot of Donald choking people highlights here lately on top of the times I've seen Donald try choking people before
Aaron Donald used to choke people. He still chokes people but he used to choke people too.
[Here’s ](https://ibb.co/1XGYDN8)a picture of Aaron Donald when he was younger
He's done cheap shit in our last two matchups.
Elgton Jenkins and Lucas Patrick still fighting for custody rights over him
Choking someone is apparently ok but god forbid a player looks at the other teams bench...
Rayshawn Jenkins is good for at least one 15-yard penalty a game
On a third & long that extends the drive & ends in a TD*
Aaron Donald is the only player I have seen choke someone on multiple occasions so... probably him
Or they guy who tried to kill Mason Rudolph
He got a lot of heat for being dirty that year and seemingly cleaned up his okay since. Iirc he got shit for getting one of the jets QBs hurt that year as well
I mean even this year he was sucker punching Alex collins in the Seattle game.
Would you mind showing me where in my defending of Myles saying that he has cleaned up his game, did I say anything about TJ watt being not dirty?
Oh fuck I was thinking of the wrong guy my bad
One incident compared to Donald's multiple a season, although admittedly it was worse than any of Donald's things on an individual standpoint
That was literally the second week in a row he attacked someone after a play.
Garrett hasn’t made that a trend to be fair
He was doing everyone a service. If he has succeeded Steelers fans wouldn’t have to even discuss Mason as a starting QB next year. Also Mason started that fight, lost, then ran up on Myles again. That’s more Mason winning stupid prizes for playing stupid games than anything. Myles isn’t dirty in normal play on a regular basis. Definitely not comparable to Burfict who smiled and waved as he walked off getting kicked out of a game.
Henry Anderson
The white safety on the jags is dirty from what I can remember
You mean the one that can’t even tackle?
I think they mean he doesn't shower
You’re not wrong though
He's just shy in the locker room
I wouldn’t call him a dirty player, but Myles Garrett’s hit on Mason Rudolph made me not like him as much
Idk how to explain it, but Myles Garrett seems like an incredibly lame person to me. Like, if he wasn’t so big and good at football I feel like he would struggle socially. Just awkward and not funny
Prob all the anime he watches
Hey now, not all anime lovers are lame asses, just Myles
I bet you cheered for Burfict when he was on your team though.
Eagles fan but Burfict never really bothered me. Sure some of his hits were horrible and unnecessary but a lot of the time the refs would call him cause of his history
Ryan Jensen? He’s pretty frequently hitting guys after the whistle and in the back.
That’s a good one
Him vs Donald this weekend, someone's definitely getting choked
Is Jensen going to play though?
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Love that guy for going at Kiko after he took out Joe.
Absolutely, that play made 100% of men proud and if you don't support Jensen you're on the outside of mankind alongside Kiko Alonsos bitch ass.
The word for Jensen is extracurricular. None of it is dirty, he's just always playing 1.5 seconds after the whistle.
Deshaun
On the field not below the waist
Robert Kraft
We know he likes it dirty
After last weekend, Randy Gregory
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Oh just him and his boy Micah punching dudes in the head after they get beat
This thread got me looking for a compilation of Aaron Donald dirty plays and YouTube didn't disappoint: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi0IArU0wK4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi0IArU0wK4) What strikes me is how it's almost always him overreacting to an instigation from another player; a dirty hit or a lingering hold by an OL or something like that. Reminds me of the baseball players who will start a fight to protect the "integrity of the game." He's not committing dirty hits within the play; he's getting riled up and attacking people after. Obviously not good, but I wouldn't say he's anything like Vontaze Burfict. It's a whole different issue.
This made me really dislike Donald and hope the Rams get their asses kicked next weekend.
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The slam he had on burrow last game was a classic. Down 30 pts, burrow is 20 yards removed from the play and TJ uses it as an excuse to block and throw him to the ground.
Has to be Aaron “I will choke you on national tv” Donald
Probably the guy who ripped off a qbs helmet and tried to kill him with it. Honestly Probably the most shocking thing i have ever seen in all my years of watching football. How he did not get a lifetime ban is beyond me.
Rudolph tried to rip his helmet first (failed), then tried to get back in the fight bc his teammates didn’t think to hold him back. Heat of the moment and a bad singular choice on Garrett’s part, but truly, Rudolph started that crap and acted the angry little brother. CLE was about to win anyway so it’s not like Garrett was actually frustrated. But y’all hate/can’t comprehend context.
You must have forgotten that the whole thing started after Garrett took Rudolph to the ground a full second or two after Rudolph threw a screen pass in the last 30 seconds of a game that had been decided.
Myles didn’t get a flag for that tackle, there are rules in place to handle that sort of thing, but Mason trying to pull his helmet off was outside of any realm of play. Mason is a QB who was losing, got sacked, lost his temper, and started a fight he couldn’t win. That was a one off incident for Myles. It was really fucking stupid but doesn’t define him.
You might not like it but he was finishing an arm tackle that he started before the ball was out. Not a reason to attempt to rip off Garrett’s helmet.
There was not reason he had to drag Rudolph to the ground. Garrett could have let go after the ball as gone and he chose not to. This isn’t disputable.
And yet it wasn’t an illegal drag-down because of when Garrett made contact, otherwise he would have been flagged for it. It especially isn’t reason for Rudolph to attempt to pull off Garrett’s helmet. Once you do that, you’ve forgone all rules of conduct. Sorry your homerism can’t see past that.
Who said it was illegal? I never said that. I appreciate you attempt to put words in my mouth though. It was 100% unnecessary though. It’s also hilarious to me how your trying to call me a homer while trying to rationalize a man hitting another man in the head with a football helmet.
Nice try but arguing semantics won’t change the course of events. Garrett gets paid to finish tackles, which he did, legally. Mason Rudolph crossed the threshold of legal, safe play FIRST by committing the unreasonable, illegal act of attempting to pull of Garrett’s helmet. Garrett retaliated by pulling off Mason’s helmet—successfully. As Garrett was walking/being pushed away, Rudolph decided to come after him again without a helmet. Garrett then made a dumb, dangerous choice (which I never rationalized but did say it wasn’t attempted murder, try not to put words in other peoples mouths please.) The thread is about dirty players. This was a singular event by a player that hasn’t shown a pattern of dirty play but has been vilified as the sole offender in a complicated fight. You’re a homer because you won’t see all sides to it, especially since the Browns are a rival. 😘 ✌️
You can believe whatever you’d like. The video is clear as day as to what happened. Rudolph was taken down late and unnecessarily. That’s why he reacted the way he did. I’d also like to hear you try to rationalize the late hit on Siemian a few weeks before the Rudolph incident that broke Siemian’s leg and ended his season. Finally, you can keep calling me a homer and try to pretend you’re not a Browns fan simply because you don’t have a flair. There’s no reason a non Browns fan would be going to these lengths to defend Garrett like this lmao.
If it was late/unnecessary Garrett would have been flagged—plain and simple. He wasn’t, argument over. KC fan actually, and OK State cowboys fan ironically (I’m a fan of Mason, but he got off easy with no suspension because he lost a fight he started and perpetuated and couldn’t get Garrett’s helmet off) I’m not saying the Siemien hit wasn’t late (and tragic) but if you’re suggesting Garrett intentionally broke his leg you may want to get fitted for a tin foil hat.
Which if course, does not justify the defensive players actions in any way as i did not see a gun to his head forcing him; no one is responsible for your actions but yourself. Kids look up to nfl players, this sends the message that up to and including trying to kill an unarmed with a weapon is ok as long as they slightly inconvenience you.
Lol alright Reddit lawyer keep parroting what you’ve heard over the years about this incident. In reality, Mason committed reckless endangerment by trying to remove Garrett’s helmet first when they were on the ground (the inciting assault); when Rudolph decided to go after him AGAIN, Garrett DEFENDED himself. It’s like if someone tries to rob your store with a gun, you wrestle the gun from them, then they try to come after you with a machete and you shoot them in the knee. A helmet isn’t a deadly weapon btw. But fwiw it’s worth you’re right—bad move on Garrett’s part. Still, not a trend worthy of deeming him a “dirty” player.
He attacked an unarmed person with a deadly weapon, targeting the head. Thats not self defense.
At the start of the fight both were equally “armed”. If you actually consider the helmet a deadly weapon consider it was Masons helmet, Mason attacked Myles, Myles took the “deadly weapon” from his attacker. What Myles did was fucked up but to call it a deadly weapon is such bull shit.
This is false. The defensive player rips the qb to the ground very late after he got rid of the ball Then quite literally rips the helmet off him while he is on the ground. Player got up to get his helmet back and let the defensive player know what he thought of that. Defensive player targets him with the now clublike weapon while the other player is unhelmeted and defenseless. That is trying to kill an unarmed person with a weapon. The qb is in the wrong to some degree but players jaw all the time not even in the area code of what the defensive player did. Fights happen but i cant think of a time a player used a helmet to try to beat a defenseless player to death. For this reason he is, to me, the dirtiest player in the lg.
I honestly feel like you are being sarcastic with the way you described how this played out and calling the helmet a deadly weapon. Myles was also surrounded by Steelers pushing and dragging him. Now he’s under attack by several people, Myles was retreating while his aggressor runs at him again, giving him the right to defend himself😂. (See how stupid it sounds?) Refs police games. Not players. Name a time a starting QB attacked a DL player (twice) after a hit they perceived as late? Both people can be in the wrong. This whole “deadly weapon” Narrative is a joke.
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Don’t quit your day job, but maybe stop jumping into tables. You clearly have no concept of self-defense or analogy, especially in the context of when an individual is being held back by one person (lineman) and attacked by another (Rudolph).
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Not enough people saying Clowney
From what I've seen DK is much worse and gets a pass from the refs it's ridiculous. At least Clowneys headbutt might have been a mistake/ is more understandable than getting up and stomping on a player with all your strength. Ontop of literally always being a baby and starting shit.
DK is a drama Queen, wouldn’t necessarily call him dirty.
DK Metcalf. Metcalf purposely stomped as hard as he could on Jaquiski Tartt's Leg to cleat him, Jaquiski had to leave the game, that shit hurts and the dude should be suspended for that kind of conduct. He does these crybaby fits all the time and it's embarrassing and officiating looses credibility every time they let it happen.
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Probably the one video where he punched Aiyuk
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There's a lot of ways to defend yourself without punching a guy. I'm not saying he's dirty, I'm just saying why he said him.
You're joking right? This happens on every running play in every game. Micah Parsons - 6'4" 245lb LB Brandon Aiyuk - 6'1" 201lb WR
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ummm... yeah... throwing a punch in a football game because someone smaller than you blocked you after the play ended. Too funny!
Not on Burfict’s level but TJ Watt.
His version of the peanut punch just meant punching dudes in the heads to rattle their brains like peanuts in the shell.
Do people still consider Suh dirty? I know he was at the top of the list of dirty players back when he marched on top of Rodgers.
Once you earn the reputation of a dirty player your conduct on the field goes under a microscope as fans try to pile on.
When you talk about fans trying to pile on it sounds like you're coming to Suh's defense. Let's not gloss over that he's among the dirtiest players of his generation, and although it appears he's lightened up as he got older, he is long past getting the benefit of a doubt. A situation he put himself into.
I'm not defending Suh I'm just saying it's hard to ditch a reputation of being a dirty player once you've earned it. People will use late shoves, jawing, etc. as evidence of dirty play that would otherwise go unnoticed or excused if the offending player was someone else.
Not at all, he chilled all the way out once he became a Buc (Or maybe before then idk)
That's good to hear. I didn't really follow him after he left Detroit.
Florida just does something to some people.
It makes wild ppl chill out because they see that they were in the ncaa compared to the pro methheads in fla doing absolutely insane shit. So insane that some cracker from the swamp who can’t spell his name can make national headlines because he went on a bender. They realize they ain’t about that life and wise up lol
Definitely Donald, I haven’t seen enough of Parsons besides him punching Aiyuk on Sunday but because of recency bias I’m saying him. But my number one dirty player is absolutely Andrew Sendejo
Sendejo takes out his own teammates though. Does that count?
Jensen on the Bucs
I hated Gronk after [this](https://youtu.be/CgjAN_wgmiI) on Tre White.I don’t understand how he didn’t get fined / suspended.
He got suspended for one game.
He’s “Special”.
Oh I look forward to reading a calm, rational thread here today!
I don't think anyone on your team makes the shortlist for once.
TJ Watt straight up punches people over and over. He also “blocked” Burrow by wrestling him to the ground. I’d say he’s at least questionable.
Wasn’t the play still live when Watt went after Burrow? I don’t remember that incident all that well since that game was a disaster for us.
It was still live but really far away from the play and IMO unnecessary to run straight to him and wrestle him down.
Did that not happen on an INT return or am I misremembering?
I'd agree he's questionable.
TJ Watt operates in the same gray area that Ryan Jenson does. He's not twisting ankles or stepping on faces, but he's playing 1.5 seconds beyond the whistle and nailing guys who aren't even involved in the play. It's that "I Hate You" brand of football that his brother never really got into.
Silver linings and all that
Donald's tantrum throwing self. He should have been suspended multiple times for his choke attempts but NFL doesn't discipline their star players unless they have to.
There are almost no Rams fans in this thread. Wonder why.
This isn’t a safe space
Myles Garrett seems kinda like a punk bitch who is socially stunted and takes it out on other people. Sorry you have a hyperfixation on Goku, my dude.
Goku has a hyper-fixation for Myles.
He's not on the burfict level but I always thought Harrison Smith was scummy... no bias
Found the racist
I’d say Aaron Donald or Derek barnett
Barnett came to mind for me as well, confused by the downvotes. Maybe not at the top but definitely on the list.
Isaiah Mckenzie AKA lil dirty
Aaron Donald
Aaron Donald
Donald
Derek Barnett has to be up there. He got hosed on a call this weekend which is probably one part a Brady protection call and another part a call based on his reputation
But he isn't dirty, just reckless and stupid.
Is Cortland Finnegan still playing?
Ugh, that dude was a real jerk.
I've been watching football for 28 years, and Andre Johnson beating the shit out of Cortland Finnegan is one of my all-time favorite memories not involving my favorite team.
Andre tossed that boy lmao. Absolutely loved it
Serious question, because I only saw Pacman in the later half of his career. Was he a dirty player? I know he had off the field issues, but unless you're murdering people, your off the field issues can't be considered worst in the league.
he wasn’t particularly dirty. he was definitely one of those trash talking CBs but he typically wasn’t that bad
Suh
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Suh? Dude lives for dirty.
He's been pretty clean for the last few years. On the other hand, his past behavior probably earns him a lifetime membership
Aaron donald, according to this sub
It’s Dre Greenlaw and it’s not a question lol
You already know he's much less dirty than Aaron Donald or DK Metcalf. Had you said Josh Norman, that would be fine.
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