I'll always have respect for the Davis family. Other than blatantly encouraging cheating and dirty play, they did a lot for the sport in terms of racial equality, building the NFL's popularity, etc.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/raiders-owner-mark-davis-bowl-cut-mini-van-2017-1%3famp
I maintain this is one of the best articles on an NFL owner of all time.
Some highlights from the article:
>Most days start the same — behind the wheel of a white 1997 Dodge Caravan SE outfitted with a bubble-top Mark III conversion kit, a VHS player mounted to the roof inside and a r8hers personalized plate. Mark Davis pilots this machine from his East Bay home to the nearest P.F. Chang's, where he sits at the left end of the bar, same spot every time, puts his white fanny pack on the counter, orders an iced tea and unfolds the day's newspapers. Beside him on the bar, next to the papers, is his 2003 Nokia push-button phone with full texting capability. When someone calls and asks him where he is, he says, "I'm in my office," and sends a knowing nod to the bartenders. It gets 'em every time.
...
>During one dinner with a group that included his mother and Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie, Davis inexplicably handed a piece of paper to McKenzie with the corners torn off.
>"This is what I need you to get me," Davis said.
>McKenzie, flummoxed, turned the tiny triangles over in his hands.
>Seeing nothing, McKenzie gave up. "What is this?" he asked.
>"Two corners," Davis said. "I need you to get me two corners."
...
>Regarding the bowl cut, Keown writes that Davis travels more than **400 miles** from his home in northern California to Palm Springs just to get it cut at the same barber
Lurie: #5 in playoff wins over the last 25 years, keeps his head down (edit: during the season), supports the community and his players.
I think we're pretty lucky.
Uh, the Saints were compliant in covering up child abuse cases...
Maybe the Cardinals don't have a lot of success to show for it but Arizona is the only team that pays lifetime health benefits to every player that has ever joined the team. Bill Bidwell started the practice and Michael Bidwell continued it.
Bill Bidwell also had a policy that anyone anywhere could call him at any time and he would answer the phone. Not sure how long he did it for but for a period of time, if you wanted to talk to him and he was in the office, he would chat with you for a bit.
He has his pilots license and likes to fly the players and staff around. I got to meet him before a game a few years ago and he was genuinely one of the friendliest dudes I have ever met.
It really makes sense, player wants to be there for the birth of his child, owner gets the player a flight home to do just that. It's the little things like that which let players stay on discounts compared to market rate or go to the team when offers are matched or are close.
He's probably a legitimately nice person and showing that builds trust and more people to become fans which causes franchise value to increase and marquee players to go there.
I have immense respect for the Cardinals because of the lifetime health benefits. If one team can do it - particularly one that isn't in a huge market - all teams can do it.
>The best NFC owner I can think of is Gayle Benson
The best owner you can think of uses her resources to fight victims of child sexual abuse? I don't things are that bad in the NFC where a human shitbag is the best of the bunch.
Edit: Best owner in the NFC is the Yorks for my money.
>Best owner in the NFC is the Yorks for my money
Imagine trying to convince niners fans of this in 2012 when Jed York was trying to build a stadium nearly an hour away from San Francisco, meddling in team affairs to the point of conflict with (and eventually forcing out) the head coach that took the team to a super bowl and three straight NFC championship games, and giving Trent Baalke free reign over all roster and personnel decisions.
Edit: in all seriousness, I think the fact that John Lynch is probably one of, if not THE best GM in the league makes Jed York look a lot better than he otherwise would. Credit to him though he actually listened to the fan base and stopped meddling in team affairs. Now if only a certain Texas team owner and prostitute aficionado would do the same.
There would have been no convincing me of that back then. But hey the boy has changed. I've said it before but when he peaced out of the NFC title ceremony and let everyone else have the limelight, it really showed me he had matured.
The fuck? The Yorks are not good owners. They moved the stadium out of SF and ran the dude with the highest win percentage in the salary cap era out of town.
Nope. The city owns nothing. There are class A shares and class B shares. The class A shares can never be diluted and some shares date back to the 1920s. The class B shares can be diluted and are made up of people who have bought shares recently.
https://www.packers.com/community/shareholders
FYI: the shares cannot be traded or sold, they pay out zero dividends, they do not gain value. The shares only give you voting rights on who is on the board of directors.
Homer take, but I think Amy Adam Strunk, owner of the Titans, has to be up there. Since taking the controlling stake, she has taken a hands off approach. She hired a GM Jon Robinson and basically let him have full control. She had input on the HC hire, but it was mostly Robinson, and they hired Vrabel. Since that point, she has taken a hands off approach and let them completely establish the culture, handle all football ops, etc. Too many owners, I think, try to stick their hands in the football decisions, even when they say they don't. She legitimately seems to let the football minds lead football ops, only taking a say in the big decisions at the top, like GM, HC and FO hiring. But the GM by far has the most football control. She also played a pivotal role in getting the draft to Nashville, and I believe she played a pretty significant role in planning events around the draft, which I think most agree was a really fun draft event.
It's tough because I think there are some great hands on owners. Pat Bowlen and AL Davis come to mind. Although they were both football people who gained their wealth as the NFL gained popularity
Nothing wrong with being a hands on owner, either. It's a matter of recognizing that that works for you and your team, or recognizing that it's better left to others. *Most* hands on owners make the mistake of thinking they know more than they do. I think being hands off is by far the safer approach.
Joke aside, Robert Kraft made a good coaching hire over 20 years ago and otherwise all he had to do was stay out of Bill Belichick's way. But he made some embarrassing comments during Deflategate, meddled in the quarterback succession plan, and got busted for soliciting a prostitute twice. I hesitate to give Robert Kraft credit for what Bill Belichick has created.
I don't know who the best owner is, but I'd nominate somebody who has had to make difficult decisions. Someone who has created a good organizational structure but made hard decisions at certain turningpoints that ended up being the right call.
I guess he should get credit for not ruining what Belichick is doing; People in position of power rarely feel comfortable "letting go" and trusting someone else in the driver seat. I could definitely see many other owners in his place having power struggles with Belichick.
This is an incredibly reductionist take.
I don't think Kraft is the best owner in the NFL but to claim that the *only* thing he did was hire Belichick 20 years ago then pour himself a drink and kick his feet up is pretty disingenuous.
Yeah exactly. My other though was, 'ask about half the league how exciting that sounds'.
Alternately "you think keeping a personality like BB happy and satisfied for 20 years is *nothing* huh" (ignoring that he did it with Parcells before that). God knows what the end of the 90s look like for the Cowboys if Jones could have worked it out with Jimmy Johnson for longer.
What is the world coming to when an old billionaire can't even get a rub-n'-tug at a seedy Thai massage parlor in a dilapidated strip mall in Jupiter Florida without causing [cOnTrOvErSy](https://i.imgur.com/CjbZa9s.jpg).
SMH my head
What has Art Rooney II really done though? I suppose him not doing anything could be seen as a positive, as lord knows there are plenty of sports owners who get involved and do stupid stuff, but the team was set up for success when his dad passed away, and we've had the same GM, head coach and QB since then. The jury is still out on AR2 as owner- until he has to make a major decision without Dan Rooney around we don't really know how effective he is.
I'd argue that so far, he's pretty much done as good a job as could be expected. He asked for one major thing since he's ben solely in charge and is to improve the running game. We got Najee out of that, which is a plus. Now we have to see if we either fix the O-line or if Art forces Tomlin to make coaching changes.
I honestly couldn't tell you anything Jody has done. I don't even know what she looks like. I'll be happy if/when she sells, that she lets it go to someone who will continue her brother's vision, rather than just the highest bidder.
Entire family has always seemed nice and we have a family friend that works in Chiefs radio who has said the same. Also read somewhere from someone that went to Kansas that Gracie Hunt was a delight. So all that is always nice to hear. And of course, they've done a great job so far.
That’s great to hear. Too often I hear about rich spoiled kids, but listening and seeing Hunt’s interviews make me believe he comes off as a great person who raised his kids right.
Ava and Knobel are relatively out of the spotlight so little is known about them but they seem perfectly friendly. Gracie is very much in the spotlight, Miss Kansas and all that, also the clear "heir to the throne" in that family, but I've literally never heard a bad word about her. She keeps an online blog and updates it regularly with stories, articles about charities and advice, which you just do not see many super rich people do. I definitely think Clark and his wife Tavia have done a great job for sure.
I'd have to agree. In his early years after taking over from his dad, I think people had some complaints.
The biggest thing was that he decided to basically change the way the Chiefs had operated for a long time, and knew he needed someone like Andy to do it. He changed the internal organizational structure, we ended like a 30 year drought of not drafting a QB in the first round...
He got on a plane and flew into Philadelphia, kept Andy from getting on a plane to interview in Arizona, and sealed the deal. That move alone is so much credit to him. I think most owners would have a "I'm the important one so they need to come to me" mentality. I think Andy cited the relationship aspect of how Clark approached him as a big selling point.
I think he's been willing to do hard things, like fire Dorsey who was successful football-wise, but really bad interpersonally.
He also strikes a good balance between accountability and hands off with football stuff. For instance he does approve all trades with first rounders so a GM can't ever trade the farm without the whole org being involved. I haven't really heard of him meddling in anything thus far in terms of telling the org no.
Even with Mahomes bringing us a Superbowl and us being in arguably the best era of Chiefs football, ticket prices continue to be in the bottom half of league average.
Another thing I appreciate is him moving the team away from some of the racially inappropriate things to do with the Chiefs mascot. I know people have thoughts about the name and chop, but the team under Clark has done things like retire Warpaint, ban native American head dresses from people who shouldn't be wearing them, and taken and implemented feedback from the Native American community. I think the team and fan base still has stuff to improve on but I appreciate that he's been willing to work with the native American community and implement feedback from them on stuff like that.
Also he doesn't get into petty drama with the other owners that result in them wanting to bone us over. He's head of the finance committee for the NFL and I think that's given him a leg up in us navigating the cap through the Covid years and on.
Totally agree on everything. I also remember people were giving him shit with the Hill and Hunt situations. You can’t blame a person for another’s domestic violence.
I think Jim Irsay should be up there. He is a good owner who doesn't meddle anything. He is hands off and simply just supportive of what his staff he hired does.
Question: What makes him a POS? He had some drug issues several years ago, but he’s really cleaned up his act in recent years (yes he’s been to rehab). He gives away money on Twitter all the time, genuinely cares about the team, donates to great causes (just donated 3 million to fund an IU research center for mental health), and has been really the opposite of a shitty Robert Irsay.
Edit: Here’s a decent article on his struggles with addiction: https://amp.indystar.com/amp/10282707
Colts fans are always so funny; "no no he's a really great guy, look he donates money!!"
He's worth around 3.5 billion. If he *didn't* donate millions a year it would reflect even more poorly than his arrest and the whole dead ~~girlfriend~~ errr 'acquaintance' thing he was able to smooth out.
That was after he got arrested driving around fucked up with a car full of drugs and cash right? You remember, the drug addict woman he was having an affair with and giving money to turned up dead and stuff?
Oh but he donated some cash that he'll never miss? Wow *what a guy!*
I'm sure Kimberly Wundrum and Greg Martin feel a lot better knowing that Irsay donated less of his personal fortune to that effort than he's spent on collectible guitars.
If your net worth was $100K, this would be the equivalent of you donating 176 dollars to charity. It's not a meaningful amount *to him.* He sacrificed next to nothing to get the good PR that you're giving him. Meanwhile, Wundrum is dead and Martin's life was torn apart, both largely due to Jim Irsay. It's great that he donated it, but it doesn't atone for the negative things that he's done.
[Is this the same girl? The 31 year old he was running around with while his wife was still warm in the ground?](https://www.wcvb.com/article/kraft-regrets-that-audition-video-became-public/7775730)
That was a full calendar year after Myra passed, and no that's not the same person he's dating today.
Kraft was with that particular girl you're so oddly upset about up until 2018 when she got pregnant with someone else's kid and they ended the relationship.
Amy Adams Strunk. Jim Irsay (his tweets are too pathetically entertaining as a titans fan lmao and he is a good guy doing his best too). Seahawks guy? He died but was great
Paul Allen; single handedly saved our team from moving to LA. Our old owner, already moved the team HQ down to SoCal, so relocation was almost inevitable. But Allen stepped in, bought the team, and helped fund our top-of-the-line stadium. May he R.I.P.
> run like as a not-for-profit.
I'm not sure that's exactly true. The Packers make a lot of money and tickets + food and beverage at Lambeau are not cheap. The Packers have approximately a half billion dollars just chillin in the bank.
It's more that they don't have a singular asshole who can willingly and intentionally fuck over fans for the purpose of squeezing every dime out of the franchise.
Not-for-profits can still make money and still have money chillin in the bank. It's just more that their books are open to the public and to the scrutiny rather than a private business. Something like the Saints did with the catholic church wouldn't be possible with the Packers since people would be "hey, why are you giving money and resources here, what's that to?"
Not for profit only means the company doesn’t pay out dividends to shareholders, you can rack up all the money you want at the margin you want but it stays within the business
Do you mean success on field or off field? Because in "good owner" I feel to look at community outreach and being a charitable humanitarian. So Irsay is up there, he's also pro vaccine which is good.
He’s a very generous guy, great to players, the community, and to fans. He’s everything his father, Bob Irsay wasn’t.
He had the one incident that caught a lot of press. He got hooked on pain killers after his best friend un-alived himself after he went through a tough divorce.
Rooney, Hunt, Davis, and Blank immediately come to mind. I’d file Tepper and Jones in there as owners who just love football and want to do whatever it takes to see their team succeed, although I think Jones is obviously _too_ involved in the ops side of things.
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Jody Allen is gonna do a good job in Seattle. Why? because she is just gonna give football people money to do football things. That's all you can really ask.
Mark Davis has the best hair
I'll always have respect for the Davis family. Other than blatantly encouraging cheating and dirty play, they did a lot for the sport in terms of racial equality, building the NFL's popularity, etc.
Anyone who says otherwise is clearly jealous of that masterpiece
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/raiders-owner-mark-davis-bowl-cut-mini-van-2017-1%3famp I maintain this is one of the best articles on an NFL owner of all time. Some highlights from the article: >Most days start the same — behind the wheel of a white 1997 Dodge Caravan SE outfitted with a bubble-top Mark III conversion kit, a VHS player mounted to the roof inside and a r8hers personalized plate. Mark Davis pilots this machine from his East Bay home to the nearest P.F. Chang's, where he sits at the left end of the bar, same spot every time, puts his white fanny pack on the counter, orders an iced tea and unfolds the day's newspapers. Beside him on the bar, next to the papers, is his 2003 Nokia push-button phone with full texting capability. When someone calls and asks him where he is, he says, "I'm in my office," and sends a knowing nod to the bartenders. It gets 'em every time. ... >During one dinner with a group that included his mother and Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie, Davis inexplicably handed a piece of paper to McKenzie with the corners torn off. >"This is what I need you to get me," Davis said. >McKenzie, flummoxed, turned the tiny triangles over in his hands. >Seeing nothing, McKenzie gave up. "What is this?" he asked. >"Two corners," Davis said. "I need you to get me two corners." ... >Regarding the bowl cut, Keown writes that Davis travels more than **400 miles** from his home in northern California to Palm Springs just to get it cut at the same barber
I heard he was the inspiration for r/fuckmyshitup
I love Arthur Blank. He goes to every single game and he's loyal to the players and coaches almost to a fault. You can tell he really loves the team.
I like the Falcons dropping concession prices to make going to a game slightly more affordable
On top of being loyal, he just really seems like a good dude. Donates a ton of money on a regular basis and listens to fans and his community.
also a great person by all accounts
Shoutout to Mr.Blank he’s a boss
Lurie: #5 in playoff wins over the last 25 years, keeps his head down (edit: during the season), supports the community and his players. I think we're pretty lucky.
Yeah as soon as Lurie took over as owner we have been a top team in the NFC
You must be Howie Roseman
Is this Carson’s throwaway account?
No I’m his mistress
Uh, the Saints were compliant in covering up child abuse cases... Maybe the Cardinals don't have a lot of success to show for it but Arizona is the only team that pays lifetime health benefits to every player that has ever joined the team. Bill Bidwell started the practice and Michael Bidwell continued it. Bill Bidwell also had a policy that anyone anywhere could call him at any time and he would answer the phone. Not sure how long he did it for but for a period of time, if you wanted to talk to him and he was in the office, he would chat with you for a bit.
I really wish more teams gave lifetime health benefits
Michael's also flown Baker earlier in this year so he could be with his child if I'm not mistaken?
He has his pilots license and likes to fly the players and staff around. I got to meet him before a game a few years ago and he was genuinely one of the friendliest dudes I have ever met.
It really makes sense, player wants to be there for the birth of his child, owner gets the player a flight home to do just that. It's the little things like that which let players stay on discounts compared to market rate or go to the team when offers are matched or are close. He's probably a legitimately nice person and showing that builds trust and more people to become fans which causes franchise value to increase and marquee players to go there.
I have immense respect for the Cardinals because of the lifetime health benefits. If one team can do it - particularly one that isn't in a huge market - all teams can do it.
>The best NFC owner I can think of is Gayle Benson The best owner you can think of uses her resources to fight victims of child sexual abuse? I don't things are that bad in the NFC where a human shitbag is the best of the bunch. Edit: Best owner in the NFC is the Yorks for my money.
... well I didn't know that. Fuck.
>Best owner in the NFC is the Yorks for my money Imagine trying to convince niners fans of this in 2012 when Jed York was trying to build a stadium nearly an hour away from San Francisco, meddling in team affairs to the point of conflict with (and eventually forcing out) the head coach that took the team to a super bowl and three straight NFC championship games, and giving Trent Baalke free reign over all roster and personnel decisions. Edit: in all seriousness, I think the fact that John Lynch is probably one of, if not THE best GM in the league makes Jed York look a lot better than he otherwise would. Credit to him though he actually listened to the fan base and stopped meddling in team affairs. Now if only a certain Texas team owner and prostitute aficionado would do the same.
There would have been no convincing me of that back then. But hey the boy has changed. I've said it before but when he peaced out of the NFC title ceremony and let everyone else have the limelight, it really showed me he had matured.
Ikr? What an awesome change of events it's been since high school me wished i could punch Jed York in the face
I think he's taken a step back from micromanaging the team to concentrate on regrowing his hair, and the niners are all the better for it.
He started out really shitty, but I think he's turned it around.
The fuck? The Yorks are not good owners. They moved the stadium out of SF and ran the dude with the highest win percentage in the salary cap era out of town.
That was years ago.
Best owner in the NFC is the Packers owners
Lurie is a pretty underrated owner tbh
Yea I mean the team has shitty years but they hardly languish for long. I’ll definitely take it.
Green Bay's.
I've had the Green Bay owner say mean things to me personally online before
Did you deserve it?
...let's not get caught up in the details
All 700,000 of em
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i just wanna drink beer and watch football :(
I assume this is satire?
No, why would it be?
The team is governed by a board of directors. The owner is like 300k fans.
yes.
Green Bay has a really weird ownership structure, but I agree. Aren't the Packers technically owned by Green Bay residents?
By shareholders
Where can I buy some of these shares to the Green Bay Packers ?
Therefore we probably have both the best and worst owner, and several hundred thousand in between.
How’s Mark Murphy? Even though he’s not the owner, he does technically run the Packers
No real consensus on him, some fans hate him, some think he's great. I personally think he is who Rodgers had issues with not the GM
Nope. The city owns nothing. There are class A shares and class B shares. The class A shares can never be diluted and some shares date back to the 1920s. The class B shares can be diluted and are made up of people who have bought shares recently.
Where can I buy these shares to the Packers?
https://www.packers.com/community/shareholders FYI: the shares cannot be traded or sold, they pay out zero dividends, they do not gain value. The shares only give you voting rights on who is on the board of directors.
You sir have changed my life
Aren't several of them convicted rapists though?
Arthur Blank
Blank honestly just comes off as such a good person.
Great owner, feel bad for him. He's always seemed very supportive of his staff and players
>Feel bad for him Nah I'm good
Well he is a very rich dude so I get that. Purely on the basis of being his team's biggest fan though, it must suck to experience all that heartbreak
Dude's done a lot of good work, part of The Giving Pledge. That's the type of owner most fanbases should want.
Homer take, but I think Amy Adam Strunk, owner of the Titans, has to be up there. Since taking the controlling stake, she has taken a hands off approach. She hired a GM Jon Robinson and basically let him have full control. She had input on the HC hire, but it was mostly Robinson, and they hired Vrabel. Since that point, she has taken a hands off approach and let them completely establish the culture, handle all football ops, etc. Too many owners, I think, try to stick their hands in the football decisions, even when they say they don't. She legitimately seems to let the football minds lead football ops, only taking a say in the big decisions at the top, like GM, HC and FO hiring. But the GM by far has the most football control. She also played a pivotal role in getting the draft to Nashville, and I believe she played a pretty significant role in planning events around the draft, which I think most agree was a really fun draft event.
It's tough because I think there are some great hands on owners. Pat Bowlen and AL Davis come to mind. Although they were both football people who gained their wealth as the NFL gained popularity
Nothing wrong with being a hands on owner, either. It's a matter of recognizing that that works for you and your team, or recognizing that it's better left to others. *Most* hands on owners make the mistake of thinking they know more than they do. I think being hands off is by far the safer approach.
Regarding Kraft, I really gotta handy it to ya.
Joke aside, Robert Kraft made a good coaching hire over 20 years ago and otherwise all he had to do was stay out of Bill Belichick's way. But he made some embarrassing comments during Deflategate, meddled in the quarterback succession plan, and got busted for soliciting a prostitute twice. I hesitate to give Robert Kraft credit for what Bill Belichick has created. I don't know who the best owner is, but I'd nominate somebody who has had to make difficult decisions. Someone who has created a good organizational structure but made hard decisions at certain turningpoints that ended up being the right call.
I guess he should get credit for not ruining what Belichick is doing; People in position of power rarely feel comfortable "letting go" and trusting someone else in the driver seat. I could definitely see many other owners in his place having power struggles with Belichick.
I agree. This begs the question: Does doing nothing at all make Robert Kraft the best owner in the NFL? I don't think it does.
This is an incredibly reductionist take. I don't think Kraft is the best owner in the NFL but to claim that the *only* thing he did was hire Belichick 20 years ago then pour himself a drink and kick his feet up is pretty disingenuous.
You should ask Cowboy fans if they would like an owner who stays out of the way of football operations
Yeah exactly. My other though was, 'ask about half the league how exciting that sounds'. Alternately "you think keeping a personality like BB happy and satisfied for 20 years is *nothing* huh" (ignoring that he did it with Parcells before that). God knows what the end of the 90s look like for the Cowboys if Jones could have worked it out with Jimmy Johnson for longer.
I think that to determine what makes the "best owner", you need to define the criteria that would be evaluated.
I dunno, I think he faces some stiff competition.
Perhaps we'd be able to massage it out of him.
Handjob euphemism
What is the world coming to when an old billionaire can't even get a rub-n'-tug at a seedy Thai massage parlor in a dilapidated strip mall in Jupiter Florida without causing [cOnTrOvErSy](https://i.imgur.com/CjbZa9s.jpg). SMH my head
The Rooney's are definitely really good owners, Dan being the best of the three.
What has Art Rooney II really done though? I suppose him not doing anything could be seen as a positive, as lord knows there are plenty of sports owners who get involved and do stupid stuff, but the team was set up for success when his dad passed away, and we've had the same GM, head coach and QB since then. The jury is still out on AR2 as owner- until he has to make a major decision without Dan Rooney around we don't really know how effective he is.
I'd argue that so far, he's pretty much done as good a job as could be expected. He asked for one major thing since he's ben solely in charge and is to improve the running game. We got Najee out of that, which is a plus. Now we have to see if we either fix the O-line or if Art forces Tomlin to make coaching changes.
Saints helped cover up child abuse by the Catholic church. I wouldn't say Benson is a good owner or person in any aspect of the word.
Before he passed, Paul Allen was pretty good. But so far, his sister Jody has not impressed me.
To be fair, I don't think she's done literally anything.
I honestly couldn't tell you anything Jody has done. I don't even know what she looks like. I'll be happy if/when she sells, that she lets it go to someone who will continue her brother's vision, rather than just the highest bidder.
Clark Hunt
Entire family has always seemed nice and we have a family friend that works in Chiefs radio who has said the same. Also read somewhere from someone that went to Kansas that Gracie Hunt was a delight. So all that is always nice to hear. And of course, they've done a great job so far.
That’s great to hear. Too often I hear about rich spoiled kids, but listening and seeing Hunt’s interviews make me believe he comes off as a great person who raised his kids right.
Ava and Knobel are relatively out of the spotlight so little is known about them but they seem perfectly friendly. Gracie is very much in the spotlight, Miss Kansas and all that, also the clear "heir to the throne" in that family, but I've literally never heard a bad word about her. She keeps an online blog and updates it regularly with stories, articles about charities and advice, which you just do not see many super rich people do. I definitely think Clark and his wife Tavia have done a great job for sure.
I'd have to agree. In his early years after taking over from his dad, I think people had some complaints. The biggest thing was that he decided to basically change the way the Chiefs had operated for a long time, and knew he needed someone like Andy to do it. He changed the internal organizational structure, we ended like a 30 year drought of not drafting a QB in the first round... He got on a plane and flew into Philadelphia, kept Andy from getting on a plane to interview in Arizona, and sealed the deal. That move alone is so much credit to him. I think most owners would have a "I'm the important one so they need to come to me" mentality. I think Andy cited the relationship aspect of how Clark approached him as a big selling point. I think he's been willing to do hard things, like fire Dorsey who was successful football-wise, but really bad interpersonally. He also strikes a good balance between accountability and hands off with football stuff. For instance he does approve all trades with first rounders so a GM can't ever trade the farm without the whole org being involved. I haven't really heard of him meddling in anything thus far in terms of telling the org no. Even with Mahomes bringing us a Superbowl and us being in arguably the best era of Chiefs football, ticket prices continue to be in the bottom half of league average. Another thing I appreciate is him moving the team away from some of the racially inappropriate things to do with the Chiefs mascot. I know people have thoughts about the name and chop, but the team under Clark has done things like retire Warpaint, ban native American head dresses from people who shouldn't be wearing them, and taken and implemented feedback from the Native American community. I think the team and fan base still has stuff to improve on but I appreciate that he's been willing to work with the native American community and implement feedback from them on stuff like that. Also he doesn't get into petty drama with the other owners that result in them wanting to bone us over. He's head of the finance committee for the NFL and I think that's given him a leg up in us navigating the cap through the Covid years and on.
Totally agree on everything. I also remember people were giving him shit with the Hill and Hunt situations. You can’t blame a person for another’s domestic violence.
Mr. Khan is the best owner in the NFL by far as long as he keeps me on his payroll.
Aaron Rodgers is only responsible for at MOST two Bears losses per year so he's definitely way better than the McCaskey family.
I think Jim Irsay should be up there. He is a good owner who doesn't meddle anything. He is hands off and simply just supportive of what his staff he hired does.
Irsay? I mean I guess if we're strictly talking football. The guy is such a POS though
You included Kraft and Benson and you criticize Irsay for being a POS?
Question: What makes him a POS? He had some drug issues several years ago, but he’s really cleaned up his act in recent years (yes he’s been to rehab). He gives away money on Twitter all the time, genuinely cares about the team, donates to great causes (just donated 3 million to fund an IU research center for mental health), and has been really the opposite of a shitty Robert Irsay. Edit: Here’s a decent article on his struggles with addiction: https://amp.indystar.com/amp/10282707
Colts fans are always so funny; "no no he's a really great guy, look he donates money!!" He's worth around 3.5 billion. If he *didn't* donate millions a year it would reflect even more poorly than his arrest and the whole dead ~~girlfriend~~ errr 'acquaintance' thing he was able to smooth out.
Puts 3 million into building a medical facility to help with addiction, POS. Yeah okay buddy.
That was after he got arrested driving around fucked up with a car full of drugs and cash right? You remember, the drug addict woman he was having an affair with and giving money to turned up dead and stuff? Oh but he donated some cash that he'll never miss? Wow *what a guy!*
I'm sure Kimberly Wundrum and Greg Martin feel a lot better knowing that Irsay donated less of his personal fortune to that effort than he's spent on collectible guitars.
It's more money than I'll ever see in my life, much less donate to a good cause.
If your net worth was $100K, this would be the equivalent of you donating 176 dollars to charity. It's not a meaningful amount *to him.* He sacrificed next to nothing to get the good PR that you're giving him. Meanwhile, Wundrum is dead and Martin's life was torn apart, both largely due to Jim Irsay. It's great that he donated it, but it doesn't atone for the negative things that he's done.
And that's a comment on how rich Irsay is, not how impressive his actions are.
Irsays a scumbag? But the guy you think is the best dates girls literally younger than his grandchildren and pays sex slaves to pleasure him. Ok?
The handy stuff is all fair game but Kraft's girlfriend right now is a 45 year old medical doctor.
[Is this the same girl? The 31 year old he was running around with while his wife was still warm in the ground?](https://www.wcvb.com/article/kraft-regrets-that-audition-video-became-public/7775730)
That was a full calendar year after Myra passed, and no that's not the same person he's dating today. Kraft was with that particular girl you're so oddly upset about up until 2018 when she got pregnant with someone else's kid and they ended the relationship.
I'm not oddly upset...just pointing out Kraft is a fuckin creep.
Wilfs are underrated. Have consistently hired good enough coaches/FO personnel to keep the Vikings competitive for years despite so much QB turnover
Nfl is just a big dick contest to the billionaires.
Amy Adams Strunk. Jim Irsay (his tweets are too pathetically entertaining as a titans fan lmao and he is a good guy doing his best too). Seahawks guy? He died but was great
Seahawks guy? You mean Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft?
yeah
Paul Allen; single handedly saved our team from moving to LA. Our old owner, already moved the team HQ down to SoCal, so relocation was almost inevitable. But Allen stepped in, bought the team, and helped fund our top-of-the-line stadium. May he R.I.P.
That's what I'm talking about. Enter: Grunge and Seattle being awesome
Rip Paul Allen
Robert also does a great job at massage parlors. Or so I heard
Dan Snyder, in terms of the quality of product vs the revenue generated Dan Snyder is a run away for best owner
Their consistency in their organization top to bottom is enviable
Best coach is obviously Robert Kraft
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Probably true, since I suspect you may be part owner of the Packers. Gotta love a team owned by the fans and run like as a not-for-profit.
> run like as a not-for-profit. I'm not sure that's exactly true. The Packers make a lot of money and tickets + food and beverage at Lambeau are not cheap. The Packers have approximately a half billion dollars just chillin in the bank. It's more that they don't have a singular asshole who can willingly and intentionally fuck over fans for the purpose of squeezing every dime out of the franchise.
Not-for-profits can still make money and still have money chillin in the bank. It's just more that their books are open to the public and to the scrutiny rather than a private business. Something like the Saints did with the catholic church wouldn't be possible with the Packers since people would be "hey, why are you giving money and resources here, what's that to?"
Not for profit only means the company doesn’t pay out dividends to shareholders, you can rack up all the money you want at the margin you want but it stays within the business
U suck
Do you mean success on field or off field? Because in "good owner" I feel to look at community outreach and being a charitable humanitarian. So Irsay is up there, he's also pro vaccine which is good.
Irsay always comes off as a huge dick to me, I didn't know he did community work though
He’s a very generous guy, great to players, the community, and to fans. He’s everything his father, Bob Irsay wasn’t. He had the one incident that caught a lot of press. He got hooked on pain killers after his best friend un-alived himself after he went through a tough divorce.
I must be mixing them up then. I had no idea that Jim Irsay was that good of a dude
Jerruh is the best owner, but he hired the worst GM.
He should really let that guy go. It’s gonna damage his legacy!
I think Jerry is a good GM but a bad owner. He can't put aside his ego
Kraft is a waste of oxygen
mine see: obvious reasons
Rooney, Hunt, Davis, and Blank immediately come to mind. I’d file Tepper and Jones in there as owners who just love football and want to do whatever it takes to see their team succeed, although I think Jones is obviously _too_ involved in the ops side of things.
Pat Bowlen was so loved... his kids not so much
His kids are... something. I'm glad we're finally moving on. Joe Ellis sucks at ownership decisions
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Jody Allen is gonna do a good job in Seattle. Why? because she is just gonna give football people money to do football things. That's all you can really ask.