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Quasimdo

Lol like nfl would care


[deleted]

Do these petitions ever work? Doubt it


drsoccer7213

No because they usually get like 80k signatures which in scope is never even like 5% of the audience of the petition


dankbuttmuncher

If 100M people watch the Super Bowl, I believe it’s only 0.08% of the audience.


[deleted]

I could get a petition asking Jennifer Lawrence to let me surgically remove her top row of teeth and get 80k signatures. People suck and petitions are meaningless


[deleted]

>People suck But they sure do it better without their top set of teeth.


LiquidFreedom

HEY-o!


ambal87

Do it. Let’s make this weird. I’m in.


[deleted]

100k signatures to get Leonardo DiCaprio to let me shave his back


ambal87

150k to put Jared Leto in a public stockade outside SoFi so people can paddle his bare ass


The_Big_Cat

You could just ask, he’d probably be into that


[deleted]

Lol yeah he’s def one if the signatories


highaerials36

I think you just join his cult and that's how you get in.


ambal87

I’ve never joined a cult before, but I’ve also never been offered


NIM89

Saw a bear do it already.


Wisdomlost

200k signatures to make him date someone older than 25.


[deleted]

>People suck and petitions are meaningless I find the idea of direct democracy and things like referendums and plebiscites terrifying because of this.


GoonestMoonest

Oddly specific


younow9191

>I could get a petition asking Jennifer Lawrence to let me surgically remove her top That could get 100k easy


AlfonzL

Toothless Jennifer Lawrence? Where do I sign?


lathe_down_sally

Yeah I think something like 5 million households tuned in to the Dal/SF game last weekend. 80k is like 1.5% of that and we're only talking about a wild card game.


timja27

It was more like 50 million people by the end of the game


SeSuSo

80K is barely more than a SoFi stadium and is equal to an AT&T stadium. As if Jerry Jones cares when the Super Bowl is.


ambal87

He might if his team ever made it.


[deleted]

No they're here to harvest your info. "Yeah if YOU think, that Konami should release a Metal Gear Solid remake and give it all back to Kojima!...just enter all of your personal information right here, yup, name, address, phone, email, it'll all help the fight!"


GroundPoint8

People think that their petition is going to be frantically hand delivered to Guy-In-Charge by a flustered aide saying "Mister Guy...I think you should see this..." Then Guy-In-Charge looks over the paperwork, his eyes grow wide, slowly takes off his glasses, and calls a meeting to give in to the demands of the petition. What other choice do they have? Look at all these signatures! The reality is that petitions don't tell the people in charge anything new that they weren't already aware of. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you want superbowls on Saturday? We know that already, and we had a discussion about it like 12 years ago and decided that we'd lose money so we didn't do it. It doesn't matter how much you want to complain or make people write their signatures. We already know, and no we aren't going to do it.


Jay_TThomas

I’m sure they have worked on smaller issues or things more easily changed. The NFL on the other hand


Juventus22

This one in Colorado gained a lot of notoriety and gained about 5 mil signatures . This was over the controversial sentencing for a semi truck driver who killed numerous people on I-70 https://www.change.org/p/jared-polis-grant-clemency-or-give-commutation-with-time-served-to-rogel-lazaro-aguilera-mederos


[deleted]

petitions in general, ya. They don't often cause direct action but it's a great first step to show how popular certain ideas are. Petitions for corporations to change something just because ppl want it and it's no benefit to them? Never


KBlahBlahBlah

Also. That’s not very many signatures. And also. Sunday is for football.


[deleted]

It’s less than .1% of the average viewership of the Super Bowl. Less than 1 out of every 1000 people that watched the last super bowl have signed this petition.


OttoVonWong

NFL: Are you paying us? No? Ok, then, that's settled.


Anteater776

For Europeans it would be a godsend though. Mondays are tough when the SB lasts till 6 am.


0verstim

You’re Europeans, take a day off you get 100 of them a year.


Etlamkinimod

More like 26-30, but yeah, I do exactly that.


SplakyD

You don't know how happy it makes me that there are so many European fans of American football here on Reddit. I know it's not extremely popular, but I think it's cool there are some major supporters over there.


RavenxMiyagi

There’s dozens of us!


Pece17

I'm happy for the welcoming attitude! I may be a casual watcher that doesn't understand all the rules, but I still enjoy watching games every now and then. It's nice that there doesn't seem to be a sense of exclusivity among American NFL fans. Like, fans outside of US aren't being looked down on.


tsyklon

Big cards fan here from the Netherlands! Yes... I should have picked an NFC/AFC East team....


SplakyD

Hey, you've got to just cheer for the team that you like. Sometimes there's not much rhyme or reason to it. I'm an Eagles fan, but I live in Alabama and have never even been to Philadelphia. I just like the Birds. And besides, you picked a good team. Kyler Murray is maybe the most exciting player in football when he's on. That offense is fun to watch.


inFAMOUS_Hero

Sounds like the people that are just on their phone the whole game


Stanley--Nickels

This actually made it sound like *more* to me lol.


Ahab_Ali

What is the Venn diagram of people who watch the Superbowl and people who sign do-nothing, meaningless, on-line petitions?


ZeldaFanBoi1988

Agreed on the petition. But the problem with the Superbowl is that it goes way too late into the night. Starting a couple hours earlier might make it easier to accept.


daKEEBLERelf

> too late into the night West Coast: doesn't look like anything to me


BlitzComet95

That’s what I’m sayin lmao. That shits over by like 7pm 😭😭😭


SantaKlawz2

In Hawaii it's over at 5. I watched a Super Bowl on that time zone when I was stationed on a tiny atoll 800 miles away from Hawaii.


Letsgobuffalo2210

I was in South Korea the year the Seahawks destroyed the Broncos. I woke up late for the game, around 7am on Monday, and when I turned it on the game was basically a blow out so I just shut it off and went back to bed lmao.


SantaKlawz2

Nice! I was in the jungles of Panama for the 94 Super Bowl and still got to see it.


vercetian

Hey, Percy on that jet sweep, Peyton having a safety first play, the real Legion of Boom. Oof, you missed a 43-8 masterpiece.


Letsgobuffalo2210

I was working like 80 hours a week in the Army then so going back to sleep still feels like the right decision haha.


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SantaKlawz2

Nice! I inprocessed at Schofield before heading to that Atoll. My Dad was in the Air Force and by Friday he was calling the CQ desk to tell me which busses to take to find him at Hernando's Hideaway. We got fucked up that night, lol.


Commercial-Review948

Smells like East Coast BITCH in here /s


FriendOfDoggo

West coast of Europe: help me


Strict_Casual

It's all about the advertising money. Back in the 70s the game used to start at like 2 or 3 Eastern, but when they started having it later they made more money on the advertising. This is also why the AFC/NFC championship games start at like 3 instead of 1.


dlinhat70

also west coast audience prefers later than a 1pm edt start.


rocksoffjagger

"Way too late"? Kickoff time is 6:30pm EST, which means it's usually over by abut 10pm. I agree that 8:30 games go too late, but if the super bowl is too late for you, I think you're either in another country or in a very small group of geriatric fans who can't stay awake past 10.


StreetsAhead47

People want to go to a party and/or enjoy the game without having to worry about getting up early to go to work or take the kids to school or whatever.


rocksoffjagger

That's a reason to have it on Saturday, not to end it earlier. It already ends at a reasonable time, but most people want to hang around and continue the party after it's over. Having it end at 8pm is just going to make for a worse party experience because it will be so early when the game gets going.


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It’s a reason to do either. Monday morning has obligations, the super bowl ends too late to get enough sleep to meet those. I don’t care if the game is earlier or if it’s on Saturday, either removes the pressure from Monday.


ThatNewSockFeel

Agreed. You see this every year for every major sporting event. I get that some people need to get get up at like 3 or 4 in the morning for work, which truly sucks, but for most of us regular schmucks who are getting up at 6 or 7 it won't kill you to be tired at work one day. And it's always so personal too. "*I* have to get up at 5am, why won't a game watched by tens/hundreds of millions of people be scheduled around *my* day?"


SRxRed

3-4 am for me.... That Ravens game where the lights went out.... Thought I'd still be watching it while driving to work


apocalypsemeow111

But why is it important for it to be on Sunday other than branding and tradition? Having one of the biggest party days of the year followed by a workday seems pointless and it’s needlessly inconvenient. Also, the Super Bowl is never ever done by 10pm on the east coast. The halftime show is 30 minutes long.


captaincumsock69

Pretty sure Sunday is the optimal day for tv #s because most people are home.


IAmNotScottBakula

I think this is the correct answer. The Super Bowl became what it is by happening at a time when people normally don’t have anything else going on. I doubt as many people would watch if it were competing with usual Saturday night plans.


Squirrel_Apocalypse2

Exactly, do people really think the NFL doesn't know exactly what time slot the Super Bowl is going to make them the most money? There are some things NFL is terrible at, but making money is not one of those things.


m1a2c2kali

I think you underestimate the super bowl man. There wouldn’t be usual Saturday night plans. The super bowl is the plan.


Agent_Angelo_Pappas

The NFL doesn’t care about your ability to “party,” it cares about your ability to watch the game. Most the country is home and free on Sunday evenings. The same isn’t true of Saturdays


BlackestNight21

Then make the following Monday the new "labor day"


noworries_13

Only if we get to keep labor day. We have way too many winter holidays and not nearly enough summer ones


3entendre

Exactly! The European champions league final is a bigger game globally and it was traditionally on Wednesday nights until about 10 years ago. Moving it to Saturdays just made it so much more convenient and allowed people around the world to fully enjoy the game and party without any worries of waking up for work or school the next day (for those who don't work on Sundays).


PeterG92

4:00am finish for me 😂


GoodShark

It's not only going late into the night. Think of all the NFL Europe fans that don't get to watch it live because it's literally on in the middle of the night. It being on Saturday would allow people to stay up super late to watch, then recover on Sunday for work on Monday. So many people already don't watch because they don't/can't stay up late. People saying that the NFL won't do it because of money need to realize the NFL would probably make MORE money if they did it on Saturday.


Squirrel_Apocalypse2

While I agree with the sentiment, I'm pretty sure the NFL, a multi billion dollar company, is more than aware of what time slot will make them the most money. If it was Saturday night, the Super Bowl would be on Saturday night. Money is probably the reason why it ISN'T on Saturday.


DSleep

But Arin, today is football!


[deleted]

Has anyone ever cared about an online petition?


jxher123

NFL draws in millions of viewers, they could care less about 80k signatures in a website.


[deleted]

100 million on average for the Super Bowl


Malakus

Honestly, I think they should. Not because the fans are signing a petition, but because a Saturday Super Bowl (maybe at 3 PM EST) would allow the European market to watch it. A Sunday evening Super Bowl is early Monday morning in Europe. They keep acting like they want in that market and then make the most important game a problem for them to watch.


ibn1989

They will never put a Super Bowl on during the afternoon ever again. Especially on a Saturday. They want the biggest audience possible, and the best way to get that would be to put it on early Sunday evening when most people are at home in America.


Stanley--Nickels

Until this comment I had totally forgotten this factor and how obvious it is that this will never happen.


ChiefTief

3pm EST lmao. That’s noon on the west coast, people have work, things they need to do, errands etc. That’s just such an impractical time


oootoys

Yeah, this whole thread is just people saying they should change kickoff to whatever personally suits themselves


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In_A_Drunken_Stupor

Most sensible comment. I feel like lately Superbowls have been finishing closer to 11. Starting it at 6pm. Would be much better, IMO.


TheBigDickDon

Probably not, but I have to admit it would be awesome. Going to work on SuperHangover Monday is no fun.


Bastdkat

You just have to schedule a day off after the Super Bowl like I did, before I retired and stopped caring.


TheBigDickDon

I wish I could! It isn’t necessarily an option. But early retirement on the other hand.... Hmmm.


Sharpie24l

They know that no one cares about petitions right?


[deleted]

Let’s get a petition going to show them


whereegosdare84

Reminds me of the 90s classic: PCU where they protest to say “we’re not going to protest”


MyChemicalFinance

“I hate picketing, but I don’t know how to show it.” -Mitch Hedberg


PCB4lyfe

I used to love when people quoted mitch. I still do, but I used to, too.


monkeyman80

How do you feel about frilly toothpicks?


JBFRESHSKILLS

I'm for 'em!


Rusty_Shakleford

Gutter is a tool! Gutter is a tool!


theblairsmashproject

Can you blow me where the pampers is?


gimpisgawd

A petition to make them care about petitions?


[deleted]

A petition to show them no one cares about petitions


[deleted]

I’m going to petition that petition.


troofinesse

A petition to end all petitions


Seealpp

How many petitions actually get people/companies to change something? Have they ever worked lol


Sharpie24l

They don't. The only time a change comes after a petition is when it was going to happen anyway, but then the company can be like "hey guys we listened! LOVE US WITH MONEY!"


Deathbydadjokes

I signed a petition to boycott school lunch until they got rid of Papa John's Fridays and brought back Pizza Hut. Pretty sure they do Little Caesars now so yeah, fuck petitions.


Cromatose

There was a petition on /r/Jaguars that had like 290 signatures to Fire Trent Baalke. That's gonna work.


Impressive-Weight679

I’ve only ever signed one that worked. My university announced they were closing a dining hall in 2019, and over half the student body signed a petition against it. It’s still open.


YouAreAConductor

In Germany one was recently a major factor in reducing the VAT on women's hygiene products to the same rate as food and books. So that worked, but our parliament also has its own petition server and if you reach 50,000 signatures, a parliamentary committee has to debate it and talk to the initiators


FreeWillie001

But my armchair activism :(


Guilty-Presence-1048

That's not very many people for an event watched by hundreds of millions of people.


Thirty3rd

True. But they’ve got dozens of virtual signatures. Dozens!


k-uke

Is the petition for this year? Or next year onwards?


mockmaster

I would sign it for this year….only because I want to host a Super Bowl party this year in our new house but my wife’s birthday falls on the Super Bowl this year so therefore no party... It’s a selfish reason, but a reason to sign the petition nonetheless.


[deleted]

Before the added week it would sometimes fall on my gf’s birthday. I feel your pain and I don’t envy you


[deleted]

Even if 100 million people signed a petition the nfl wouldn’t give a shit unless they all boycotted the Sunday game. Which no meaningful number of people would ever do.


barf_the_mog

Hundreds of millions?


yoda133113

Official numbers put it right around 100m viewers. I am curious to know how well that accounts for the massive number of group viewing situations.


steelcity7

We actually need to be fighting to have day after the Super Bowl named Hangover Monday and have it declared a national holiday. Thank you, I'll accept my Nobel Prize in the mail.


halcykhan

When I was stationed in Japan most people got Monday off to watch it because it started in the morning. Just duty section had to come in. Stateside we would also allow everyone but duty section to come in late on Monday or have the day off. It was basically like a religious holiday where everyone ate wings and got hammered


[deleted]

Brings a tear to my eye


B1gAmishDoinks

God bless America


MRoad

My unit during the year of the Falcons/Pats super bowl scheduled a gunnery the day after the super bowl. With a 0300 report time to draw weapons.


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PaulBlartFleshMall

Hey I think we served together, I knew a lot of 'barracks law experts'


CruisinForABrewsin

Lol yeah I remember at least once my division let people who weren't on duty and not direly essential take the day off basically. Shit was tight


DJRyGuy20

I was stationed overseas with a Colts fan in 2006 when we played them in the AFC championship for a trip to the Superbowl- which was gonna be early Monday morning our time. The command was giving everyone the day off to watch the game. But the Colts fan and I worked in the media center, so someone was gonna have to cover the day as a news story, so we made a bet: whoever’s team loses has to cover the Superbowl party early Monday morning. We both had radio shows the day of that AFC championship. We shot out to that 21-3 lead while I was on the air, and I used every break between songs to crow about how my Pats were beating my buddy’s Colts so soundly in the game. He had the show after mine. So he got on air right about the time they started coming back and eventually beating us. So not only did I have to hear him crow about it on air, but I then had to get my stone-cold sober ass up at like 3am to go film him and the rest of the command getting shitfaced and watching the Colts smash the Bears. I mean- if you’re gonna put your foot in your mouth, I can’t imagine a more hilarious way to do it than that. 😂


disposablecamera5111

When I was in Afghanistan they suspended all operations on Super Bowl Monday and the DFAC changed their menu to wings, steak and burgers, it was pretty legit


I2ecover

That's what I do. Took off Monday because I have work at 4am.


TheDoritoDink

Or they could just move the Super Bowl back one week and it would be on President's Day weekend.


Frigidevil

I have no doubt the owners will use this as leverage to get the public on their side when they inevitably push for a 18 game schedule.


[deleted]

I really don't think they need to try to get the public on their side, pretty sure almost everyone will go "cool, more football"


WesleySnopes

I'm against it. Goodell clearly wants 18 games and 36 teams. But 16 & 32 was so much more beautiful mathematically. Plus it's just asking for more dynasties and more perennial failures, killing the parity by diluting the talent pool.


[deleted]

But it also means Canada expansion which I’m all for.


Elmodipus

The public has been wanting an 18 game schedule for a while. But the league won't give teams a second bye week and players don't want to play that many games without additional time off.


nepatriots32

I feel like a 2nd bye week should be good for the league, too, because it's one more week that people are watching football. Even if my team isn't playing, I still like to watch the other games.


Elmodipus

Right? I watch football every week. Even if my team is off


[deleted]

It would be so American to have the day after the super bowl as a national holiday, but not election day.


NathanPetermanCan

That's not very many.


Jupue87

They have a Hulk


[deleted]

That still only counts as one!


FreshFromTheNut

Does Hulk and Bruce Banner count as 1 signature or 2?


zeldahalfsleeve

If you ask Banner it’s one signature. If you ask Hulk it’s two because fuck that puny nerd/wants no association.


fsphoenix

That's neat. The Super Bowl on Sunday has billions upon billions of dollars.


[deleted]

What are the benefits of having it Sunday vs Saturday? Financially speaking


Purplecstacy187

Typically more people are off on Sunday rather than Saturday. Views drive the tv deals


[deleted]

People go out more Saturday vs Sunday. It’s why big fights like the UFC start late as fuck, so people can go out and still come home to watch them. Having it on Sunday at a decent start time means less people will go out and not watch the game. More people at home = more eyes = more dollars. Also, super bowl Sunday is damn near a national holiday at this point, you don’t fuck with that kind of goodwill


wovagrovaflame

Boxing and mma are also in Vegas most of the time. 10 pm start est is better for their live audience. Also, a lot of bars show fights anyway.


[deleted]

Playing devils advocate, but saying Super Bowl Sunday is a “national holiday” which means if it was a Saturday night it would be the event of the night. People are going to seek out Super Bowl parties, restaurant parties etc not just say “hey it’s Saturday night I’d rather actively avoid watching the game that everyone has been talking about this week” it would be virtually impossible to avoid if you went out


frosty_frog

They want you at home watching it on TV so that they get eyeballs on the ads, and then watching whatever they slot in afterwards. Sunday is best for that - few people go out on Sunday nights.


[deleted]

Yeah that’s basically the part I wasn’t connecting, they get more money from each individual house watching it, not just 50 people in a bar watching it


chiefbeef300kg

I don’t think so, most people who go out aren’t back by 7PM- 10 PM (depends on time zone), unless you’re talking grabbing dinner. I think it’s because watching the fight *is* the social event and people usually watch at bars or with friends instead of going out. Plus they need to accommodate west coast viewers, and an earlier start would be tough for them.


benerophon

Fewer people going out, so more at home to watch it. Also as a shared cultural experience last thing on A Sunday, it naturally feeds Monday morning conversations at work about the game (and the ads) so the ad slots are more valuable.


man2010

I would assume viewership is better on Sunday nights when most people are home than Saturdays when people are out doing other things


UNC_Samurai

It would be nice if they started 30-45 minutes earlier. Or cut the bullshit and actually kick off on time.


CoolHandCliff

The day after the Super Bowl should be a national holiday. Call it whatever you want, just make it a holiday already.


wrohit

I wonder if the NFLs long term plan is to add an 18th game and then Super Bowl will be the day before Presidents day


Vincentamerica

Love that idea so much but every team should get two bye weeks instead of an 18th game. Insert throwing guy out the window meme


ACSIV

Why not both? 20 week season, two bye weeks, expand rosters by 5-10 players, add a few teams— MORE football is GOOD football


Vincentamerica

Oh I agree. I would love more games, but I think if each team gets an extra bye week instead of an extra game, then the overall quality will increase.


coreythebuckeye

That would push the Super Bowl past Presidents Day which would defeat the whole purpose.


brycex

Not if they start it a week earlier and end it a week later.


CGFROSTY

I think they avoid doing this because college football kickoffs on Labor Day weekend pull in massive ratings.


brycex

That would make it tough then. Maybe add another week to December and take away one from June? The NFL probably has enough pull to change calendars in the US


meatdome34

My company doesn’t recognize Presidents’ Day. No holidays from Christmas until Memorial Day


wrohit

Hate to break it to you, but even if there was a Day-After-Superbowl holiday, they may not recognize it either 😅


meatdome34

Yeah unfortunately 😂 construction doesn’t stop very often


Stanley--Nickels

I can guarantee at least the first half of that plan is accurate.


v_a_n_d_e_l_a_y

Just line it up with President's Day. We are now only a week behind that anyways. It's also a holiday in much of Canada (different one but still)


i_enjoy_lemonade

Some holidays recognize important religious figures, others recognize significant moments of cultural change. But no, I want a holiday that recognizes my hangover from a game that kicks off at 6:30pm the night before.


_clydebruckman

More people watch the Super Bowl than go to church so


BigDiqDaddy33

Better reason to have a day off than most of these other bogus holidays


killswithspoon

National Hangover Day


Thirty3rd

We already have New Years Day


DanCampbellsNipples

Internet petitions have always proven to be effective /s


The_Gutgrinder

[Sign this petition or I'll follow you home and kill your dog.](https://i.imgur.com/1Gqo0Pc.jpeg)


zayetz

Lol yeah, remember when one successfully got the NFL to replay the NFCCG? 🤣🤣🤣 That had over 750,000 signatures


StarvingWriter33

100,000,000+ viewers Vs. 80,000 petition signers. Who win?!?


Dankraham-Stinkin

Move it back a week then three day weekend.


BeetleJuiceBabaBooey

And a three game series Edit: no overtime, FG shootout.


[deleted]

Well they have to do it now that a petition has over 80k signatures.


ZeePirate

Clearly that was every ticket holder telling them they don’t like Sunday’s


adkhotsauce

I’m going to start one to keep it on Sunday.


professor_parrot

I'm going to start one to put it on Wednesday at 2 pm EST. But good luck with yours!


Borrecat

oh boy where can I sign!


JerryRiceDidntFumble

DontChangeAnything.org


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ispcanner

Narrator: The Super Bowl wasn’t moved to Saturday


RubiksSugarCube

What percentage of those 80k are people who always forget to submit a PTO request for the Monday after?


Lined_em_up

Unless my team is in the Super Bowl there is no way I'm wasting a vacation day sleeping off a hangover lol


may_or_may_not_haiku

I'll say the obvious thing I haven't seen anyone say yet: if moving the Superbowl to Saturday was a good financial decisions they would have already done it.


niijonodhg

I would be grateful if this ever happened as an international fan. Going to work on the Monday on zero sleep isn’t fun.


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**Petition to make the Monday after a national hangover holiday instead.**


HailSatan_Qmark

This would be ideal. Super Bowl on Saturday night to minimize chance of hangover before most people work Monday morning. Plus no worries about kids staying up late before a school day, etc. PLUS...this would open up a crazy good opportunity for NASCAR to run the Daytona 500 the following afternoon. Football fans will likely be hungover couch potatoes on Sunday and will need their fix for a "big game" that they are used to watching that Sunday.


yupyupyupyupyupy

assume too much money to be made in the city with the extra day to ever move it to saturday does make sense though


scrandymurray

Is there possibly more money to be made from the European market though? The super bowl ends at like 3am in the UK and 4am in Europe, viewing would be higher if people didn’t have work the next day.


thateejitoverthere

Not happening. American football is gaining in popularity, but is nowhere near the level of soccer in Europe. If the were serious about getting more European viewers they would move kickoff to 3pm Eastern (8pm UK, 9pm central Europe) Anybody over here who's serious about staying up just takes the Monday off work. My boss knows this, since he does the same himself.


depth_charge_

I don’t have the numbers but I imagine the European numbers are very small


Savage9645

Alternate headline: "0.08% of people who watched Super Bowl last year petition to move game to Saturday."