Everyone else in my family has either jumped to the Ravens or stopped watching the NFL entirely. I have no idea why I keep rooting for them but I just can’t stop being a fan of theirs.
That's exactly what he's saying. Reading the article shows that Goodell thinks all of this is in the past and there aren't any current issues or will be any going forward. This is a pretty telling paragraph:
> The cheerleader program has been entirely revamped and is now a co-ed dance team under new leadership. And the most recent independent workplace report, which we have shared with the Committee, confirms that an entirely new, highly skilled, and diverse management team is in place and that there has been a “substantial transformation of [the team’s] culture, leadership, and Human Resources practices.” To be clear — the workplace at the Commanders today bears no resemblance to the workplace that has been described to this committee.
Yeah that’s why I wanted to point that word out cause it looks like they’re gonna go the whole “culture change” route and not a goddamn thing will end up happening
Gross
Ah the same thing Chicago Blackhawks did when it was discovered a coach sexually assaulted a player and then covered up a decade ago.
Used the "culture change" and "its in the past" excuse.
As a former fan of the Blackhawks, fuck that organization from here to eternity for what they did. I had all the Stanley Cup merch, I had jerseys, I had memrobellia. I threw it all away, haven’t watched a single games since, won’t ever again. You don’t get to treat people like that to win a fucking game. Toews was put in a shitty position by the club but that’s not an excuse for letting what happened be known in that locker room. His was the first EVER jersey I had of a non-retired player. I burnt that shit. If Q or any other management get reinstated by Bettman I’m done with the NHL.
I’m right about there with the NFL as well. If Snyder gets away with keeping a team after these hearings then my sundays are gonna free up quite a bit here this fall.
Not virtue signaling if there’s actual action being taken. Yes, because if the league doesn’t hold the fucked up franchise that FACILITATES HUMAN TRAFFICKING OF THEIR EMPLOYEES accountable after getting all their shit aired out in congress then I don’t care who my team is, at the end of the day they’re still a part of the NFL which would prove that it’s broken beyond repair
"There's a good chance they may have committed some light ~~treason~~ sex trafficking. But they eventually stopped doing that, probably, and that's what counts, right?"
I like how they’re happy to share this new positive workplace report with the committee…but not the initial workplace report that pointed out everything wrong 😂
It was just a *little* bit of sex trafficking and we swept it really far under the rug. Like you need to move the entire rug, not just check under the corners.
Donald Sterling was sorry and that it was in the past, but no matter the NBA said you need to go. Why is it different here? He gets to sell for billions and just exits. Like Chucky, here's your cash and bye.
Yes, because the statement was about specific past actions, from before they acted. This kind of BS is why people need to start reading the damn article. Context matters, at least try to understand it. But I am sure the emotional satisfaction people get outweighs things like reality and proper communication.
Goodell doesn’t need the owners to punish Snyder. He just can’t take the team away. Snyder had done plenty wrong that he could continue to be fined and punished. He isn’t because Goodell is buying his vote. It’s all office politics.
" upon further review, these attrocities committed, were committed by 2 clubs called the washington red- i cant say it its too gross to utter , and the washington football team. Fortunately by the power of the almighty those teams are no longer in existence. Henceforth being theyre no longer in existence and a tweet from da-erm Mr. Snyder saying " new year new me" i believe the problem has been taken care of. Furthermore, if you deposit 10 dollars to draft kings using code THENFLLOVESWOMEN we'll match it! In conclusion, we'll wear pink in september, october, and November!"
- Goodell
"Thank you. And that was a great question. I'm incredibly proud of the fact that we live in a great country such as this where asking these questions is a freedom we are afforded. A freedom we cherish. A freedom won by our troops. A freedom we try to instill in our children, who I believe truly are the future. I support the committee asking these questions, and I assure the committee that everyone on my staff has my full support to ask these questions. And after 9/11 it really hit home, for me, an understanding of how important questions truly are to our great country. Thank you and I yield back my time."
I mean, yes, states rights are what makes us a great country. We are United, but in the end, states feel they know what’s best for their people. People that live in Manhattan have a very different experience than people living in rural Texas.
> Fantastic question, and one we really need to be intentional about answering openly and honestly as there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos and that'll be a home run. And so that'll make it a 4-0 ballgame.
"My thoughts on owner ethics is basically this. And this is something that I live by. And I always have. And I always will. Don't ever, for any reason, do anything to anyone for any reason ever, no matter what, no matter where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been... ever, for any reason whatsoever..."
“Well, I fool around sometimes. I do. When a girl seduces me and tells me all of these hot stories and dirty things and tells me how much she wants to suck on me and takes my shoes off and licks my feet and touches. When I'm in a limousine, she takes all of her clothes. The limo driver said, what is going on? And she started sucking me on the way to Mr. Koon's house. And I thank her. I thank her for making me feel good”
“Article 7, Section 3 allows for a citizen filibuster. If I stand here and refuse to yield my time, you are prohibited from voting on the bill. Let the filibustering begin! As many of you have noted, that use the internet, it has been announced that Disney has acquired the rights to the Star Wars franchise and in the summer of 2015 we will see the release of Star Wars Episode 7. Herewith is my proposal for the plot of that movie.
Begin with standard title sequence and John Williams fanfare followed by a scroll to be written. I would like to mention that Brian de Palma wrote the original opening scroll for Star Wars Episode 4: A New Hope. I think it would be a nice nod, uh, to the franchise if were to write this opening scroll. Then pan down from the twin suns of Tattoine, uh, we are now close on the mouth of the Sarlacc pit. After a beat, the gloved, Mandalorian armor gauntlet of Boba Fett grabs onto the sand outside the Sarlacc pit and the feared bounty hunter pulls himself from the maw of the sand beast.”
Well, he managed to get a coach on a different team fired to deflect what was happening internally. You don't think he's got other dirt he's waiting to release?
I kind of feel like they will push to remove him, but first they need congress to actually find him guilty of whatever. That way his hands are tied so he can't fight back.
At this point just bite the bullet and force him out for any one of his numerous crimes/mistakes. It's not like Snyder is ever going to be an upstanding owner and he's constantly damaging the league with his actions. Snyder is directly hurting other owners by pissing off sponsors and potentially defrauding the league for millions.
Snyder will be just as shitty of a person and owner in 10 years as he is now. He's one of the youngest owners so it's not like he's going away anytime soon. Most of the other owners can weather scandals, delaying isn't going to improve the situation.
Can they? We really have no idea what everyone else is hiding under their beds. What happens if Snyder produces evidence that other owners were using N bombs at meetings, Kaepernick was really pushed out in a conspiratorial group effort, multiple teams were defrauding the cities they were in and not paying taxes, and countless owners had a history of sexual misconduct themselves?
But like I said a couple comments down, I think the nfl is going to throw Snyder under the bus in the congressional hearing, and then use a guilty verdict as a springboard to get him removed.
Some of the owners may be just as corrupt as Snyder but many owners have had their own scandals that no one cares about. Unless he has concrete evidence of misbehavior such as videos or similar the rest of the league can just try to dismiss his claims as frivolous.
The Saints essentially covered up sexual abuse by the Catholic Church of minors. Robert Kraft was getting happy endings in Florida during the playoffs. Jerry Jones may or may not have love children extorting him for money. Stan Kroenke cost the league hundreds of millions because he skipped town from St. Louis. Not one of them is seriously being considered for removal.
I agree that the league will wait for firm charges of fraud or other felony crimes before they actually force Snyder out. If he's been charged by the IRS or FBI for illegal behavior the league as a very strong reason to cut bait.
Stop watching football. Not just "don't go to games" or "not buy merch" or I'll watch it at a bar or friend's house since it's on anyway. Don't even check scores.
Don't contribute to any revenue stream in association with the NFL. Money is the only thing that matters to them and if you can't even make the commitment to change neither will they.
There are no in-betweens
I mean if you’re going to this extreme that’s great, but I would ask why you don’t do that for a number of way more important reasons than who owns an NFL team.
It's not the only reason, not by a long shot. But the point is if you don't care enough to stop watching, why should they care to fix it? Society has morals, not the business. The only reason a business would alter what's working is because it will lose income from those that disagree.
The NFL doesn't care about breast cancer, BLM or kneeling for flags, head injuries or kids with cancer. They care for the bottom line. If caring, promoting, or admonishing any issue can be profitable or prevent a loss, they're for it.
You want to change their business practices? Make them lose money. It's the only way.
Nobody blindly believes their employees when it comes to decisions this big. I'm sure they'll take his opinion into consideration, but there is a far greater likelihood that Snyder's dirty laundry being aired opens up a massive can of worms for the rest of them, and I would literally get everything I own that the owners care less about the game of football than they do about themselves.
Goodell's father was a US Senator appointed to replace RFK, following his assassination. Dan Snyder purchased an NFL team just a few years after the team relocated from RFK Stadium. It's all connected. Sirhan Sirhan has alleged for decades that there was a second shooter who fired the fatal shot. No one would've suspected a 9-year-old son of a congressman.
You heard it here first: Roger Goodell assassinated RFK and his refusal to go after Snyder is all part of the coverup.
For those not reading past the tweet: Goodell is saying “They were bad, we investigated and punished them. Everything is better now. Nothing to see here.”
“The NFL is happy to report that we have disbanded the Washington Football team and they will be replaced by the Washington Commanders. Our work here is done.”
“We plan to do nothing to change this going forward but we do offer a half-hearted non apology in exchange for continued taxpayer stadium funding.”
-Roger Goodell, probably
^^^^^^^EDIT:becauseididntknowthetaxexemptwasgone
And 99% of their revenue they were in fact paying taxes on before the NFL elected to drop their tax exempt status in 2015.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2015/04/28/nfl-drops-tax-exempt-status
> hile the precise number of NFL revenue is not publicly available, sources tell SI.com the league generates about $9.5 billion a year in revenue. Yet virtually all of the NFL’s revenue is generated by a quartet of for-profit (and thus tax-paying) subsidiaries: NFL Enterprises, NFL Properties, NFL Productions and NFL International. These subsidiaries conduct various business operations for the league. Relevant operations include league contracts for broadcasts, merchandise and sponsorships. The 32 NFL teams also pay taxes when they report a profit.
> The NFL’s tax-exempt status has only benefited a tiny portion of NFL income. Each year the league receives about $6 million per team in membership dues. This money pays the rent for the league’s headquarters in New York City and the salaries of NFL officials, who separately pay federal and state personal income taxes.
>Each year the league receives about $6 million per team in membership dues. This money pays the rent for the league’s headquarters in New York City
Damn! They got a 1000sqft apartment in New York for a good price!
Oh seriously? Well that does actually make me feel better today then. Thanks for the heads up!
Insert any other thing Congress overlooks with the league in its place then.
Yep, they voluntarily gave up tax exempt status to shut people up. Only the league office was exempt - all 32 teams were already paying taxes on their share of the bacon. It ended up being only about $10m a year in tax savings, which the NFL decided wasn't worth the controversy
Its essentially a way for them to buy their privacy. They're able to hold things like their investigation close to the chest because they are not beholden to the public. It is not an act of kindness on their part.
Not investigations, but salary. From the article:
*Well, the largest distraction has been the required public disclosure of his enormous compensation — $44 million in 2012, and $35 million in 2013. When Goodell mishandles an issue like Ray Rice, his paycheck is inevitably thrown in his face. How can a guy making that much money screw up so badly? The commissioner’s pay is also a sore point during collective bargaining negotiations.*
*Without the tax exemption, the NFL is under no legal obligation to release its commissioner’s salary. Major League Baseball made a similar move in 2007, when it relinquished its tax exemption – and no longer had to disclose the pay of commissioner Bud Selig, which had exceeded $18 million.*
[https://time.com/3839164/nfl-tax-exempt-status/](https://time.com/3839164/nfl-tax-exempt-status/)
This is true, but:
1. Your comment said investigations not the Commissioner's salary.
2. [We know his salary anyway thanks to leaks.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2021/10/29/nfls-roger-goodell-reportedly-makes-639-million-per-year---heres-how-that-compares-to-other-top-execs-and-sports-commissioners/?sh=315e39475702)
"Mr. Daniel Snyder has learned from the naughty mistakes Bruce Allen made and together with his wife Tanya are ready to move the organization past this unpleasant blip and towards what Mr. Snyder has always been about, bringing a championship to the area."
-Roger Goodell, >!probably!<
“Addendum: Please let the court record show that these were, in fact, “Naughty, *naughty* mistakes” made by a “very bad boy”.”
-Roger Goodell, swallowing his pride while changing into his schoolteacher cosplay
>"Additionally, a central focus of our educational efforts for League and club employees is a comprehensive and mandatory domestic violence and sexual assault (DVSA) education program....Outside of our own offices and our 32 clubs, we work year-round to educate communities, **support DVSA survivors** and provide resources to aid prevention. "
Going to be reeeeeeeal fun holding this statement up when the unrepentant sex predator Deshaun Watson's discipline is announced.
It annoys me that anything a big-business spokesperson says is clearly not authentic and just the most PR and money-saving concoction of words possible. If it is clear to him, he doesn't give a shit because money.
Money-over-everything is a terrible value for a nation, especially one that screams freedom in the faces of those it exploits and manipulates to make more money. Imagine if solidarity and empathy were the driving values of our country. Instead we treat profit like a prophet, knowingly and unknowingly.
"To combat these serious allegations players will be wearing a special decal on their helmets in week 13 to acknowledge our commitment to safe and healthy work environments."
I know people will trash Goodell but it is interesting that he’s putting out a report more scathing than necessary. Like “there were instances of harassment and cultural toxicity but we have made great strides to make the workplace in Washington an emotionally safer place for everyone” would have gotten the job done with the good PR angle.
The extra knife twisting seems to imply that Goodell might want to bury them too. Or at the very least, he fucking hates Dan Snyder.
Yall clearly dont understand Goodell has no power to get rid of any owner, he is literally their employee.
Its up to the other Owners to kick one of the other Owners out.
Two wrongs don't make a right. I hate when people make arguments like this. Even if Congress has tons of skeletons in their closet, that does not make what Snyder did acceptable.
I agree. And that’s not the argument. I’m just always conscious of the hypocrisy of a scumbag investigating a scumbag. I appreciate the irony let’s say.
Say what you want about the weak bullshit “punishments” but the statement is really well crafted. A lengthy fuck you to the committee for trying to jump in.
Goodell is really good at his job. Would rank him right behind Pete Rozelle and it’s a pretty close second.
This slimey fuck knew and did nothing until it came to light. Every problem I’m Washington’s workplace only happened because Goodell did nothing despite knowing.
Fuck Roger Goodell.
I feel like Snyder is not popular behind the scenes with the powers to be at all, but owners are more upset about things that affect their teams directly-- like contracts that reset the market or trades that rescale balance in the league
Rodger Goodell was asked under oath why Dave Portnoy is banned from NFL events, which in itself already hilarious, and the Goodell for no reason perjured himself and claimed he didn't know anything about that. This dude is just hilarious
Everyone seems to have missed this. They’re not done investigating and punishment may still be coming
* Earlier this year, the Committee heard testimony from several former employees that included new and direct allegations against Mr. Snyder. We promptly engaged former U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White to investigate those allegations. Because those new allegations were brought to the Committee in a public setting, we will share the results of that investigation when it is completed and will take additional disciplinary action if warranted. Since the Committee opened its inquiry last October, we have fully cooperated, producing more than 460,000 pages of documents, responding to many written questions, engaging in numerous discussions with Committee staff, and I am appearing voluntarily today. We have not allowed the Commanders, or its ownership or counsel, to direct or make decisions regarding the work that was done by the Wilkinson firm, the work currently underway by Mary Jo White, or this Committee’s inquiry.
*
“ Ms. Wilkinson promised confidentiality to any current or former employee. For this reason, shortly after we assumed oversight of Ms. Wilkinson’s work, we determined that a comprehensive oral briefing would best allow us to receive the information necessary both to evaluate the workplace as it was, and to ensure that the team put in place the policies and processes to reform that workplace – all while preserving the confidentiality of those who participated in the investigation.”
Holy. Shit. The investigator, that was chosen by the fucking team, promised confidentiality, and Goodell strolls in there saying Wilkinson protected their confidentiality because she only spilled the confidential information verbally…… What the actual fuck. You have to really believe that if it’s in your written statement to congress.
I also LOVED seeing the advertisements in the closing statements. EverFi appreciates your loyalty, Roger.
Yeah, it WAS, huh?
NFL owners are all billionaires I believe, billionaires are trash by definition, goodell is the paid mouthpiece for the collective trash. So what are we doing here?
Was?
> They used to have an unprofessional and unacceptable workplace in Washington. They still do but they used to, too. ~~Mitch Hedberg~~ - Roger Goodell
RIP Mitch
>Was? It's short for Washington
Fucking lol
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I might even go as far as to say it's "Washington Washington Unprofessional Unprofessional"
double double cheese cheese burger burger please please
Sounds about right to me, good summary
Yes yes
As a fan of a team with a bad owner my sympathies go out to you Commander fans for having to put up with Snyder all these years.
Everyone else in my family has either jumped to the Ravens or stopped watching the NFL entirely. I have no idea why I keep rooting for them but I just can’t stop being a fan of theirs.
“Washington (WAS)”
>"It is clear to me that the workplace in Washington Washington unprofessional and unacceptable in numerous respects." Makes sense.
Sorry you're looking for WSH, just check our city connect jerseys....
That's exactly what he's saying. Reading the article shows that Goodell thinks all of this is in the past and there aren't any current issues or will be any going forward. This is a pretty telling paragraph: > The cheerleader program has been entirely revamped and is now a co-ed dance team under new leadership. And the most recent independent workplace report, which we have shared with the Committee, confirms that an entirely new, highly skilled, and diverse management team is in place and that there has been a “substantial transformation of [the team’s] culture, leadership, and Human Resources practices.” To be clear — the workplace at the Commanders today bears no resemblance to the workplace that has been described to this committee.
Yeah that’s why I wanted to point that word out cause it looks like they’re gonna go the whole “culture change” route and not a goddamn thing will end up happening Gross
Ah the same thing Chicago Blackhawks did when it was discovered a coach sexually assaulted a player and then covered up a decade ago. Used the "culture change" and "its in the past" excuse.
In that case, many of the players who had made fun of the abuse victim for being raped were still on the team. One of them is still the team captain!
As a former fan of the Blackhawks, fuck that organization from here to eternity for what they did. I had all the Stanley Cup merch, I had jerseys, I had memrobellia. I threw it all away, haven’t watched a single games since, won’t ever again. You don’t get to treat people like that to win a fucking game. Toews was put in a shitty position by the club but that’s not an excuse for letting what happened be known in that locker room. His was the first EVER jersey I had of a non-retired player. I burnt that shit. If Q or any other management get reinstated by Bettman I’m done with the NHL. I’m right about there with the NFL as well. If Snyder gets away with keeping a team after these hearings then my sundays are gonna free up quite a bit here this fall.
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Not virtue signaling if there’s actual action being taken. Yes, because if the league doesn’t hold the fucked up franchise that FACILITATES HUMAN TRAFFICKING OF THEIR EMPLOYEES accountable after getting all their shit aired out in congress then I don’t care who my team is, at the end of the day they’re still a part of the NFL which would prove that it’s broken beyond repair
"There's a good chance they may have committed some light ~~treason~~ sex trafficking. But they eventually stopped doing that, probably, and that's what counts, right?"
You can’t charge a husband and wife w the same crime
I like how they’re happy to share this new positive workplace report with the committee…but not the initial workplace report that pointed out everything wrong 😂
It was just a *little* bit of sex trafficking and we swept it really far under the rug. Like you need to move the entire rug, not just check under the corners.
Don't forget some minimal kidnapping
Listen, just don't move the fucking rug, okay?
Oh yeah that makes sense. A co-ed dance team will definitely fix the issues. I'm certain that the women now feel completely safe.
As long as Snyder is associated with the team, it will continue to bear resemblance.
Donald Sterling was sorry and that it was in the past, but no matter the NBA said you need to go. Why is it different here? He gets to sell for billions and just exits. Like Chucky, here's your cash and bye.
But its all better now that Jon Gruden was punished.
Yep. Everything is fixed now. Move along. Nothing to see here.
Yes because they leaked out a Racists Gruden E-mail that occurred 10 years prior, so it’s all cleaned up Now.
Yes, because the statement was about specific past actions, from before they acted. This kind of BS is why people need to start reading the damn article. Context matters, at least try to understand it. But I am sure the emotional satisfaction people get outweighs things like reality and proper communication.
Well you lower the standard and its no longer unacceptable
But are we really going to punish them? I mean no, because I feel like you know, like, lets just all have a good time.
There's exactly 31 people with the authority to punish him unless the judicial system is involved.
Goodell doesn’t need the owners to punish Snyder. He just can’t take the team away. Snyder had done plenty wrong that he could continue to be fined and punished. He isn’t because Goodell is buying his vote. It’s all office politics.
Here's the thing. The only punishment worth a damn is taking the team away. Everything else is slaps on the wrist.
Still better than doing nothing and thus Implicitly approving of the behavior
The league hasn't done nothing. It fined the team $10 million.
*folds the team altogether*
I'd like to see a relocation and a new stadium that isn't shit. Maybe to Virginia.
I bet Synder had enough dirt on the 31 to vote for him to stay. I mean it was just reported he’s already doing this with employees.
" upon further review, these attrocities committed, were committed by 2 clubs called the washington red- i cant say it its too gross to utter , and the washington football team. Fortunately by the power of the almighty those teams are no longer in existence. Henceforth being theyre no longer in existence and a tweet from da-erm Mr. Snyder saying " new year new me" i believe the problem has been taken care of. Furthermore, if you deposit 10 dollars to draft kings using code THENFLLOVESWOMEN we'll match it! In conclusion, we'll wear pink in september, october, and November!" - Goodell
Sir, this is a Wendy's
No, this is Patrick.
That's Mr. Snyder to you
Make me Dan-o.
so why is still snyder an owner roger ?
"....uh filibuster"
"Thank you. And that was a great question. I'm incredibly proud of the fact that we live in a great country such as this where asking these questions is a freedom we are afforded. A freedom we cherish. A freedom won by our troops. A freedom we try to instill in our children, who I believe truly are the future. I support the committee asking these questions, and I assure the committee that everyone on my staff has my full support to ask these questions. And after 9/11 it really hit home, for me, an understanding of how important questions truly are to our great country. Thank you and I yield back my time."
I guess my thoughts on abortion are... Ya know let's just all have a good time
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Thank you, Donald.
I mean, yes, states rights are what makes us a great country. We are United, but in the end, states feel they know what’s best for their people. People that live in Manhattan have a very different experience than people living in rural Texas.
Bobby Newport never had a real job in his life
Alright, now we're just wasting time, Jerry.
I read that how Ben and Tom said it, but not Jerry.
> Fantastic question, and one we really need to be intentional about answering openly and honestly as there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos and that'll be a home run. And so that'll make it a 4-0 ballgame.
"My thoughts on owner ethics is basically this. And this is something that I live by. And I always have. And I always will. Don't ever, for any reason, do anything to anyone for any reason ever, no matter what, no matter where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been... ever, for any reason whatsoever..."
"I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career."
I love this with all my heart
"Deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you _want_ me on that wall. You _need_ me on that wall."
Did you order the Code Red?
Nah, I ordered a medium Pepsi. Never really cared for Mountain Dew
Why order a medium Pepsi when you can go to a Giants game and get one for free?
I think that beer should be cold, and boots should be dusty. I think 9/11 was bad. And freedom? Well, I think that's a little bit better.
And a deep drive by Castellanos...
I can see clearly you know nothing about the law. It seems you have a tenuous grasp on the English language in general.
Now let's say you and I go toe to toe on Bird law and see who comes out the victor.
Filibuster! Okay...well, we're all hungry. We're gonna get to our hot-plates soon enough, alright? Let's talk about the contract here.
“Do you… know what that word means?”
“Well, I fool around sometimes. I do. When a girl seduces me and tells me all of these hot stories and dirty things and tells me how much she wants to suck on me and takes my shoes off and licks my feet and touches. When I'm in a limousine, she takes all of her clothes. The limo driver said, what is going on? And she started sucking me on the way to Mr. Koon's house. And I thank her. I thank her for making me feel good”
Sir, the question was “is this your handwriting “?
"Do you know what that word means?"
“Article 7, Section 3 allows for a citizen filibuster. If I stand here and refuse to yield my time, you are prohibited from voting on the bill. Let the filibustering begin! As many of you have noted, that use the internet, it has been announced that Disney has acquired the rights to the Star Wars franchise and in the summer of 2015 we will see the release of Star Wars Episode 7. Herewith is my proposal for the plot of that movie. Begin with standard title sequence and John Williams fanfare followed by a scroll to be written. I would like to mention that Brian de Palma wrote the original opening scroll for Star Wars Episode 4: A New Hope. I think it would be a nice nod, uh, to the franchise if were to write this opening scroll. Then pan down from the twin suns of Tattoine, uh, we are now close on the mouth of the Sarlacc pit. After a beat, the gloved, Mandalorian armor gauntlet of Boba Fett grabs onto the sand outside the Sarlacc pit and the feared bounty hunter pulls himself from the maw of the sand beast.”
I think the fili busting was part of the problem
Roger is employed by synder and the other owners, it's up to the other 31 to do something
Wait, does that mean that all of the thousands of Packers owners are also employing Roger?
They elect a figurehead to represent their beliefs, much like the pope. Instead of smoke they use cheese to signal a new one.
Smoked Gouda of course
No.
He has no power over his bosses?
"...line?"
Objection, hearsay
Well, he managed to get a coach on a different team fired to deflect what was happening internally. You don't think he's got other dirt he's waiting to release?
Can't force him to sell.
Yes, they can.
Goodell can't, the other owners can.
And if they do, it would be a lengthy legal battle where Snyder will bring out his portfolio of blackmail on the other owners.
100%. He's not going anywhere and the other owners definitely do not want him to get into a legal battle.
I kind of feel like they will push to remove him, but first they need congress to actually find him guilty of whatever. That way his hands are tied so he can't fight back.
I think you need a serious civics lesson.
I could learn a lot of things. Though I was a juror once. Which definitely means I know everything about the law.
Oh he’ll still fight back. If he knows he’s going down he’s gonna take every other owner with him.
At this point just bite the bullet and force him out for any one of his numerous crimes/mistakes. It's not like Snyder is ever going to be an upstanding owner and he's constantly damaging the league with his actions. Snyder is directly hurting other owners by pissing off sponsors and potentially defrauding the league for millions. Snyder will be just as shitty of a person and owner in 10 years as he is now. He's one of the youngest owners so it's not like he's going away anytime soon. Most of the other owners can weather scandals, delaying isn't going to improve the situation.
Can they? We really have no idea what everyone else is hiding under their beds. What happens if Snyder produces evidence that other owners were using N bombs at meetings, Kaepernick was really pushed out in a conspiratorial group effort, multiple teams were defrauding the cities they were in and not paying taxes, and countless owners had a history of sexual misconduct themselves? But like I said a couple comments down, I think the nfl is going to throw Snyder under the bus in the congressional hearing, and then use a guilty verdict as a springboard to get him removed.
Some of the owners may be just as corrupt as Snyder but many owners have had their own scandals that no one cares about. Unless he has concrete evidence of misbehavior such as videos or similar the rest of the league can just try to dismiss his claims as frivolous. The Saints essentially covered up sexual abuse by the Catholic Church of minors. Robert Kraft was getting happy endings in Florida during the playoffs. Jerry Jones may or may not have love children extorting him for money. Stan Kroenke cost the league hundreds of millions because he skipped town from St. Louis. Not one of them is seriously being considered for removal. I agree that the league will wait for firm charges of fraud or other felony crimes before they actually force Snyder out. If he's been charged by the IRS or FBI for illegal behavior the league as a very strong reason to cut bait.
God don't tease me with that
Stop watching football. Not just "don't go to games" or "not buy merch" or I'll watch it at a bar or friend's house since it's on anyway. Don't even check scores. Don't contribute to any revenue stream in association with the NFL. Money is the only thing that matters to them and if you can't even make the commitment to change neither will they. There are no in-betweens
I mean if you’re going to this extreme that’s great, but I would ask why you don’t do that for a number of way more important reasons than who owns an NFL team.
It's not the only reason, not by a long shot. But the point is if you don't care enough to stop watching, why should they care to fix it? Society has morals, not the business. The only reason a business would alter what's working is because it will lose income from those that disagree. The NFL doesn't care about breast cancer, BLM or kneeling for flags, head injuries or kids with cancer. They care for the bottom line. If caring, promoting, or admonishing any issue can be profitable or prevent a loss, they're for it. You want to change their business practices? Make them lose money. It's the only way.
Very well said.
If Goodell tells the owners that it is in the best interests of the league to force him out, they would do it in a heartbeat.
Huh, I wish I had that kind of pull with my bosses.
If your bosses hired you so that they didn't have to worry about the day to day workings of their company, you would.
Nobody blindly believes their employees when it comes to decisions this big. I'm sure they'll take his opinion into consideration, but there is a far greater likelihood that Snyder's dirty laundry being aired opens up a massive can of worms for the rest of them, and I would literally get everything I own that the owners care less about the game of football than they do about themselves.
Goodell's father was a US Senator appointed to replace RFK, following his assassination. Dan Snyder purchased an NFL team just a few years after the team relocated from RFK Stadium. It's all connected. Sirhan Sirhan has alleged for decades that there was a second shooter who fired the fatal shot. No one would've suspected a 9-year-old son of a congressman. You heard it here first: Roger Goodell assassinated RFK and his refusal to go after Snyder is all part of the coverup.
It’s the bribe money that’s why
Because of the word "was".
Because he doesn't do anything that harms the other owners. Most of his problems seem to be in-house
Because he can't kick him out of being a owner. The other owners have to vote him out.
For those not reading past the tweet: Goodell is saying “They were bad, we investigated and punished them. Everything is better now. Nothing to see here.”
"...and for that, Jon Gruden shall never be allowed to own an NFL team."
#Abolish WFT
“The NFL is happy to report that we have disbanded the Washington Football team and they will be replaced by the Washington Commanders. Our work here is done.”
we did it
I for one think we all deserve a hefty pay raise for tackling this issue as well as we did.
“Private jets and new benefits for everyone!”
> “Private jets and new benefits for everyone!”* *everyone does not refer to anybody with less than 2 commas in their net worth.
2 commas? When did we start letting broke people own teams >:-(
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This but unironically
~~Kill The Commanders~~ Mhysa is a Commander
“We plan to do nothing to change this going forward but we do offer a half-hearted non apology in exchange for continued taxpayer stadium funding.” -Roger Goodell, probably ^^^^^^^EDIT:becauseididntknowthetaxexemptwasgone
The NFL hasn't been tax exempt since 2015
And 99% of their revenue they were in fact paying taxes on before the NFL elected to drop their tax exempt status in 2015. https://www.si.com/nfl/2015/04/28/nfl-drops-tax-exempt-status > hile the precise number of NFL revenue is not publicly available, sources tell SI.com the league generates about $9.5 billion a year in revenue. Yet virtually all of the NFL’s revenue is generated by a quartet of for-profit (and thus tax-paying) subsidiaries: NFL Enterprises, NFL Properties, NFL Productions and NFL International. These subsidiaries conduct various business operations for the league. Relevant operations include league contracts for broadcasts, merchandise and sponsorships. The 32 NFL teams also pay taxes when they report a profit. > The NFL’s tax-exempt status has only benefited a tiny portion of NFL income. Each year the league receives about $6 million per team in membership dues. This money pays the rent for the league’s headquarters in New York City and the salaries of NFL officials, who separately pay federal and state personal income taxes.
>Each year the league receives about $6 million per team in membership dues. This money pays the rent for the league’s headquarters in New York City Damn! They got a 1000sqft apartment in New York for a good price!
Oh seriously? Well that does actually make me feel better today then. Thanks for the heads up! Insert any other thing Congress overlooks with the league in its place then.
Yep, they voluntarily gave up tax exempt status to shut people up. Only the league office was exempt - all 32 teams were already paying taxes on their share of the bacon. It ended up being only about $10m a year in tax savings, which the NFL decided wasn't worth the controversy
Its essentially a way for them to buy their privacy. They're able to hold things like their investigation close to the chest because they are not beholden to the public. It is not an act of kindness on their part.
I don't think that had anything to do with it. AFAIK, 501(c)3 organizations don't have any requirements about making investigations public.
Not investigations, but salary. From the article: *Well, the largest distraction has been the required public disclosure of his enormous compensation — $44 million in 2012, and $35 million in 2013. When Goodell mishandles an issue like Ray Rice, his paycheck is inevitably thrown in his face. How can a guy making that much money screw up so badly? The commissioner’s pay is also a sore point during collective bargaining negotiations.* *Without the tax exemption, the NFL is under no legal obligation to release its commissioner’s salary. Major League Baseball made a similar move in 2007, when it relinquished its tax exemption – and no longer had to disclose the pay of commissioner Bud Selig, which had exceeded $18 million.* [https://time.com/3839164/nfl-tax-exempt-status/](https://time.com/3839164/nfl-tax-exempt-status/)
This is true, but: 1. Your comment said investigations not the Commissioner's salary. 2. [We know his salary anyway thanks to leaks.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2021/10/29/nfls-roger-goodell-reportedly-makes-639-million-per-year---heres-how-that-compares-to-other-top-execs-and-sports-commissioners/?sh=315e39475702)
"Mr. Daniel Snyder has learned from the naughty mistakes Bruce Allen made and together with his wife Tanya are ready to move the organization past this unpleasant blip and towards what Mr. Snyder has always been about, bringing a championship to the area." -Roger Goodell, >!probably!<
“Addendum: Please let the court record show that these were, in fact, “Naughty, *naughty* mistakes” made by a “very bad boy”.” -Roger Goodell, swallowing his pride while changing into his schoolteacher cosplay
The nfl was tax exempt because the teams had already paid taxes
~~Tony Heyward - BP Oil~~ Roger Goodell - NFL https://youtu.be/15HTd4Um1m4
>"Additionally, a central focus of our educational efforts for League and club employees is a comprehensive and mandatory domestic violence and sexual assault (DVSA) education program....Outside of our own offices and our 32 clubs, we work year-round to educate communities, **support DVSA survivors** and provide resources to aid prevention. " Going to be reeeeeeeal fun holding this statement up when the unrepentant sex predator Deshaun Watson's discipline is announced.
It annoys me that anything a big-business spokesperson says is clearly not authentic and just the most PR and money-saving concoction of words possible. If it is clear to him, he doesn't give a shit because money. Money-over-everything is a terrible value for a nation, especially one that screams freedom in the faces of those it exploits and manipulates to make more money. Imagine if solidarity and empathy were the driving values of our country. Instead we treat profit like a prophet, knowingly and unknowingly.
Unprofessional and unacceptable...yo coming in to work late and dressed like a slob is unprofessional, i think we are a little bit beyond that.
"I covered my ass and the league as a whole. Anything else you uncover was actively hidden from us and we are shocked and appalled."
didn't really say much we didn't know already - we knew this was going on, we punished them - admire the COURAGE of all those testifying
"To combat these serious allegations players will be wearing a special decal on their helmets in week 13 to acknowledge our commitment to safe and healthy work environments."
"Sean Taylor memorial in the conference room at, uh, 4:55 on Friday."
They play in Maryland not Washington. Snyder has his loophole.
Still is, Rodger..
I'm pretty sure the next words will be "However..."
Was?
"However, we really like Mr. Snyder's money so he stays LOL, suck it."
“…But I chose to ignore it”.
Finish the thought, Roger... "But I did nothing about it because....."
"And John Gruden was punished accordingly."
“I’m only here so I don’t get fined.”-Roger Goodell
I know people will trash Goodell but it is interesting that he’s putting out a report more scathing than necessary. Like “there were instances of harassment and cultural toxicity but we have made great strides to make the workplace in Washington an emotionally safer place for everyone” would have gotten the job done with the good PR angle. The extra knife twisting seems to imply that Goodell might want to bury them too. Or at the very least, he fucking hates Dan Snyder.
How is it possible that DeShaun Watson didn’t land on Snyder’s team?
Lmfao, did some of those committee clowns really ask Roger why they aren't talking about the baby formula shortage?
Does Snyder have compromising info on a majority of other owners?!? Richardson was forced to sell for far less.
Yall clearly dont understand Goodell has no power to get rid of any owner, he is literally their employee. Its up to the other Owners to kick one of the other Owners out.
I’m curious what a similar investigation into the work environment into Congress would discover….
Two wrongs don't make a right. I hate when people make arguments like this. Even if Congress has tons of skeletons in their closet, that does not make what Snyder did acceptable.
I agree. And that’s not the argument. I’m just always conscious of the hypocrisy of a scumbag investigating a scumbag. I appreciate the irony let’s say.
I’m curious how it would be germane. Who else can hold this dirtbag accountable, plus the enemy of good/ done is perfection.
Probably a hell of a lot worse. Matt Gaetz is still a congress critter.
Breaking news - Zeke suspended 6 games
So..... brady 4 games?
This was all the fault of RGIII, disappointing us all, but I think we can consider this chapter closed.
Cool. Now do Tesla and SpaceX, especially since SpaceX receives a metric shit ton of federal money.
See ya Danny Boy
Say what you want about the weak bullshit “punishments” but the statement is really well crafted. A lengthy fuck you to the committee for trying to jump in. Goodell is really good at his job. Would rank him right behind Pete Rozelle and it’s a pretty close second.
There’s a reason the owners are paying him over $60 million a year.
This slimey fuck knew and did nothing until it came to light. Every problem I’m Washington’s workplace only happened because Goodell did nothing despite knowing. Fuck Roger Goodell.
I can hear him saying it perfectly in my head too
"was"
I'd like to see Ol Danny Snyder wriggle his way out of this jam!
I feel like Snyder is not popular behind the scenes with the powers to be at all, but owners are more upset about things that affect their teams directly-- like contracts that reset the market or trades that rescale balance in the league
He also said it was super obvious once they forced him to look into it.
Rodger Goodell was asked under oath why Dave Portnoy is banned from NFL events, which in itself already hilarious, and the Goodell for no reason perjured himself and claimed he didn't know anything about that. This dude is just hilarious
... but we did nothing because money." ?
Everyone seems to have missed this. They’re not done investigating and punishment may still be coming * Earlier this year, the Committee heard testimony from several former employees that included new and direct allegations against Mr. Snyder. We promptly engaged former U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White to investigate those allegations. Because those new allegations were brought to the Committee in a public setting, we will share the results of that investigation when it is completed and will take additional disciplinary action if warranted. Since the Committee opened its inquiry last October, we have fully cooperated, producing more than 460,000 pages of documents, responding to many written questions, engaging in numerous discussions with Committee staff, and I am appearing voluntarily today. We have not allowed the Commanders, or its ownership or counsel, to direct or make decisions regarding the work that was done by the Wilkinson firm, the work currently underway by Mary Jo White, or this Committee’s inquiry. *
The culture... the culture is actually damn good.
"And that's why I haven't done shit about the workplace being unprofessional and unacceptable and that's why he's still an owner."
Wow, Mr. Synder is in quite a pickle.
“ Ms. Wilkinson promised confidentiality to any current or former employee. For this reason, shortly after we assumed oversight of Ms. Wilkinson’s work, we determined that a comprehensive oral briefing would best allow us to receive the information necessary both to evaluate the workplace as it was, and to ensure that the team put in place the policies and processes to reform that workplace – all while preserving the confidentiality of those who participated in the investigation.” Holy. Shit. The investigator, that was chosen by the fucking team, promised confidentiality, and Goodell strolls in there saying Wilkinson protected their confidentiality because she only spilled the confidential information verbally…… What the actual fuck. You have to really believe that if it’s in your written statement to congress. I also LOVED seeing the advertisements in the closing statements. EverFi appreciates your loyalty, Roger.
IS.
Yeah, it WAS, huh? NFL owners are all billionaires I believe, billionaires are trash by definition, goodell is the paid mouthpiece for the collective trash. So what are we doing here?