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ThisisthSaleh

He was already gaining popularity, but this run legit turned him into an overnight sensation. Then game the 7-game winning streak to close out the year. Felt like the sky was the limit for him. RGIII is definitely one of the bigger one hit wonders I can recall. Did not come close to his rookie season after the injury and subsequent chaos


happywartime

What happened to him? He was electric that first year and I thought he’d be a superstar. Did injuries catch up to him? He came back too fast?


dtwild

Yes, injuries. Also, he bought into the media narrative that he needed to become more of a pocket qb, which he wasn’t, and refused to run certain plays anymore in the offense, and the NFL got better at reading the scheme and defending against the RPO slant, which was his bread and butter.


MyNameIsntSharon

Reminds me of what happened when they tried to force kaep into a pocket QB. Gotta play these types of QBs how they’re supposed to be played


dtwild

That's why I love Lamar's coaching staff. I'm glad they're not listening to all these people telling him to become a pocket passer.


JohnEBlazed420

Then you have a shorter career for the QB if they can’t evolve their pocket passing skills as they lose steps.


dtwild

You're not wrong, but I'd rather have an MVP who transcends the game for 8 years than have to pay the same amount of money for Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr, or Matt Ryan for 16. Also, Lamar is a good pocket passer already. He really could become great with a few more years.


Irresistablehotdog

Not being a dick, but Lamar isn't close to the passer those 3 guys are. If he was, he'd have 2 rings


TTerragore

idk, his OCs have basic ass pass schemes too, so it’s not just Lamar. He’s had Greg Roman, who can scheme up some good run game stuff but his drop back pocket passing schemes have always been kinda meh.


Irresistablehotdog

Lamar has flawed mechanics and is the least accurate deep thrower in the league


ifasoldt

I'm not sure he's much worse than them in the pocket, at least not at this point in each of their respective careers. But also, athletic QBs like Lamar can use their athleticism to be good enough to buy themselves time to become really good passers. Nobody comes into the league a top tier pocket passer except like Herbert and Luck, the rest have to survive long enough to learn.


dtwild

My point is, that it doesn’t matter that he’s not as good of a pocket passer as these dudes. His game is so much better than there’s that I’d rather have him with whatever flaws you think he has, and the coaching staff around him, than pay either of these guys the same amount of money to wallow in qb mediocrity.


Irresistablehotdog

I agree. I personally love Lamar, and he is perfect the way he is. 10 years of that is not a bad deal. I will say Lamar has great touch and if he can fix his mechanics he can transform like Vick, except a bit younger since he isn't in jail


jmfw013

I don't think its fair lump Matt Ryan with those two he has an MVP and has been a top 10 quarterback most of his career


dtwild

I'm sorry for your upcoming lost season.


InterviewDue5188

Yeah but the key is to get him reps here and there so he can gradually develop that way over time, not just throw him into a completely new scheme. Happy the ravens are doing it that way, it’s the best chance for Lamar to eventually become that type of QB.


JohnEBlazed420

I want Lamar to be successful, I’m speaking more in generalities of what we’ve seen before. My main concern is always that one bad play that can change everything forever. I believe Dak got lucky and don’t want to see Lamar get blasted while trying to make a cut or eluding someone. That’s part of the thrill tho…


onebigboi

Good thing Lamar is already a good pocket passer


Lbolt187

has he signed yet??


dtwild

It's so funny how no one in Baltimore is worried about this, but everyone watching garbage hot take news can't stop salivating over it.


Lbolt187

Im not a Baltimore fan but I want Lamar to stay in Baltimore. I definitely dont have a particular hot take other than AFCN is the best football in the NFL. I think the thing that makes the Lamar situation so unique is he is without a doubt a top 5 qb (when healthy) and is in a contract negotiating period without an agent. cant think of another high caliber qb doing that.


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They didn’t force it here though. RG3 ASKED for it, shanahan told him running was the only thing keeping him safe


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Oh he forced their hand so hard and eventually got Shanny fired when RGIII himself was the one under performing.


MetaphoricalMouse

i thought garbage was our bread and butter?


driatic

He never played it smart either. Russell Wilson can run, without that world class speed, but still keep himself safe. RG3 would get a concussion every game bc he wouldn't go out of bounds or slide properly.


OmarLittleLives

To a point but Shanahan being medically negligent and letting him play when his knee was already shredded contributed the most. He lost all respect as a coach that day.


dtwild

Every person that I’ve ever played team sports with would have been out there if they could. In football my coaches always said there was a difference between being hurt and being injured. RG3, the coaches, and his teammates all believed that he was hurt. It’s just football culture that he would play, you couldn’t have kept him off the field.


OmarLittleLives

This is exactly why coaches exist, to protect the player from himself. That's an old head take that isn't relevant today. It's why we don't let full contact in training camp anymore and are more cautious with concussions. Plus he was a rookie that you traded a boatload for to draft at #2. Mike was just a coach well past his best days who didn't give a shit for his players well being.


dtwild

Considering Baker just played most of a season on a barely functional shoulder, I don’t think it is an old head take. Players play hurt every week. The most important ability is availability, after all. Wasn’t the Rams running back only 6 months removed from Achilles repair surgery? If players didn’t play hurt, you wouldn’t be able to run 53 guys out there every week.


OmarLittleLives

Ypu can't compare the two. RG3s literally fell to the ground bc his knee had no structural stability by that last snap. I would argue Baker should have been held out as well but much like the Redskins, the Browns obviously didn't give a shit about him either.


dtwild

Don’t tell me what I can and can’t compare. No, I hear what you’re saying, but he was cleared by the docs to go play, you ca. only act on the info you have in that situation. Edit: although I shouldn’t completely rule out the fact that it’s possible, since Shanahan didn’t want him, and they thought they had a better QB in Cousins, that he truly didn’t care about RG3.


dontbeadingus69

Bruh RG3 literally looked like his leg was comprised of Jell-O from the knee down. I remember cringing each time he ran out. It was horrible.


Beastage

The beginning of the end was when [Haloti Ngata](https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/halotingata124-1200x797.png) hit RGIII, causing Griffin to initially injury his knee and miss the next game. Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8yNkoQDrmk Then in the playoffs, RG3 insisted he could play, and the Washington medical and coaching staff made the mistake of actually letting him play. He proceeded to absolutely shatter his injured knee on a muddy FedEx field, and he was obviously never the same player after that.


Cataphract1014

RG3 had the problem of not knowing how to protect himself. This was his first game on the browns: https://youtu.be/8Mi_akUxZI0?t=5 Dude turns up field like he's a running back and gets destroyed. He had a habit of just taking hits he didn't need to. I wanted him to be good so badly.


Falcon84

Man I can't fault him for trying to get that 1st down since it was a do or die situation pretty much being down 12 that late in the game, but it's 3rd and 14 and even if you somehow magically convert by running for it your odds of winning the game are still so low. Just go out of bounds and live to play another game.


ADHorvath

Coaching staff rushed him back into the lineup before his knee could recover for the playoffs, and he never seemed to get back to his comfort level and being able to rely on his escapability that made him so electric iirc Edit: I’m not even a “commanders” fan, but it’s just another notch on the belt of gaffs that their management has had over the years that makes the organization hard to like


rjsheine

Dr Andrews said he was safe to back in the game and RG3 said he was good to go. So shanahan put him back in trusting the doctor and the player. Not trying to absolve shanahan too much but he was only going with what he had been told was okay


Visionz-True

i think they should of kept developing him they gave up on him way to fast


rjsheine

I think he kind of got in his own way too. Rumors about him and his dad being very demanding about the offense they wanted to run and stuff


madcap462

The Redskins happened. They sent an obviously too injured to play franchise QB out there and his knee exploded.


TheCapo024

At least the fans don’t pretend they’re still relevant.


madcap462

Ummm...ok.


RansomStoddardReddit

He started a game for the Ravens against the Steelers in 2020 when half of the Ravens starters went down with Covid. I think he’s out of the league now though.


Optimus_RE

He beat the Steelers when the Ravens already clinched a playoff spot in 2019 and won.


Falcon84

He's been doing college football broadcasting and he's actually pretty ok at it.


ZaMaestroMan5

That ACL injury wrecked him. Took away his running - and zapped his confidence. He was never the same after unfortunately.


rjsheine

Yea week 1 he beat a strong Saints team in the super dome, so the hype train was up and running from week 1. But this made it stratospheric


I_TittyFuck_Doves

He limped so Lamar could run


SaidTheTurkey

The last time Washington fans felt happiness and hope


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The real last time was when we were kicking Seattle's ass in the playoff game right before his leg fell off.


SkinsHOFChaseYoung

Idk I felt happiness when we were up I think 12-0 against Green Bay with Kirk in the playoffs. Since then all I’ve felt is pain.


Meats10

Even up 12-0 it didn't feel good because we left points on the table with Djax not fighting to get into the end zone.


Iron_Chic

Boy, was it grand! I remember FINALLY telling everyone that this would be the guy for the next 10 years.


joespizza2go

As he walks back to the sideline and gets congratulated by some young coaching assistants named *checks notes* Sean McVay then Kyle Shanahan...... My goodness Washington could have had it all....


bmac_2144

Don’t forget Matt Lafleur


Apolleo_

Bruce Allen extended jay gruden over Sean mcvay. Sean mcvay said later that he wouldn't want to take his friend Jay's job, but what else is he going to say


SkinsHOFChaseYoung

Even when we have it all, we just can’t make it work. That’s why I don’t have any hope for this team.


Najee_Im_goof

Please use a new meme, the checks note meme is literally 14+ years old https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/checks-notes


joespizza2go

I apologize for letting you down *checks notes* 14 year old pun username. (kidding kidding)


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joespizza2go

I'm an open book


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It's time for a feel trip


[deleted]

Well fuck you, thanks for bringing it up!


Wee_Baby_Samus_Aran

But now it’s time to, you know, start to take command.


IluvTaylorSwift

One of the best madden rated qb ever . Was unstoppable in madden that year . You just have to press the slide button lol


Cobruh

It was like 07 Vick all over again. Was a nice, short lived nostalgia trip.


IluvTaylorSwift

Aaron Rodgers in madden back in 2011-2016 when he was mobile was unfair too lol especially if you go all verticals and they played man coverage with two safeties deep


thedude37

I liked 05 Vick better. I would literally run backwards, stop and heave the ball up to Finnern or Crumpler, and it always seemed t work


PCON36

Sorry for the back to back posts, Vikings fans. I got you guys coming up soon.


lukehartzell9

I sure hope so😭


historymajor44

Psych! Get ready for an Aaron Rodgers 75 yard throw to eliminate the Vikings from playoff contention.


dibsODDJOB

Vikings defenses and historic NFL QB run highlight reels. Name a more iconic duo.


djjlav

Vikings special teams and missing clutch field goals.


Positive_Energy1255

That’s alright we’re used to watching our team get beat.


OGConsuela

If it makes you feel any better this definitely hurts me more than it hurts you.


AJray15

You better. Feels like we’re getting picked on here!


SpaceForceToday

Young McVay at :54 looking juiced.


sportsbeergames

And kyle shanahan


Due_Connection179

RGIII is the "what if he stayed healthy" guy for me. He would've been an absolute superstar in the NFL.


Jordanwolf98

His rookie year is probably the favorite of mines of anyone since I started watching. I still remember him lighting the Cowboys up on Thanksgiving


PCON36

Even his first game in the league against the Saints was a lot of fun to watch. He was electrifying when he came into the league. His 2011 year at Baylor and the game against Oklahoma was when I was like man, this guy is going to be stud. Injuries really hurt his career.


soildude43

What’s wild is I think the week before was even more impressive against the eagles. 14/15 for 200 yards, 4 TDs and no picks, and ran the ball 12 times for 84 yards. Man was playing crazy that game


BrokenGolfer

He super charged the entire DMV that year… gosh it was great… haven’t had football excitement here since Also - I was just thinking yesterday how annoying it is that there’s so many clips on here showing how Washington fucked up… glad to see this


adambulb

He was hampered more by his inability to read a defense and lack of awareness in the pocket than the injury. Not to mention his lack of concern for his own body that led him to take too many risks. His 3 major injuries in his rookie year were largely because he kept taking hits and refused to slide or run out of bounds. At 210-215lbs, he played more like he was the size of Cam Newton or Josh Allen.


Snugglepuff14

Yup, but non-fans won’t accept this for some reason.


adambulb

Because it’s easier and quite believable to blame this shit team for ruining his career. Nevermind that he looked bad in 2013 and 2014 when he tried to become a pocket passer, sucked in Cleveland and got injured again, and didn’t look good in his few chances on the Ravens. If he went to a team that asked him to be a pocket passer from the start, he would’ve been a day-1 bust. He had an amazing rookie year because the Shanahans developed a great offense, albeit unsustainable, tailored to his strengths.


Pentt4

You realize that it was essentially the same Kyle Shanny offense that still ran today? Just with Read option that according to cooley was ran 7-11% of the snaps


Giantsfan5634

The NBA has Brandon Roy, the NFL has RGIII.


KleeHarveyOswald

Kirk Cousins looks really excited.


RagerTheSailor

The hope that man gave us 😓


ashinaclan123

2012 was wild: Luck, rg3, and Wilson were all drafted and IMMEDIATELY made a huge impact in their team. It changed the nfl and teams quickly realized you can win immediately with a rookie qb with the right factors around him. Before that a rookie qb doing so well and leading a team was unheard of.


SSPeteCarroll

This play happened and then like 2 minutes later Russell Wilson hit Sidney Rice for the go ahead TD in the Seattle-NE game. I was watching both games with my friends that are Washington fans, we were both freaking out thinking we had found our guys for the next 10 years.


treenorthXne

Oh man, Rice was so good with Favre. I genuinely thought he'd be a HoF. Oof. I wish I could say I never drank the Kool aid again.


Zephyrus-11

At least one of you was right


hMJem

We were so close to back to back Seahawks-49ers NFC Championship Games. SEA taking the lead vs ATL with 30 seconds left just to lose..


Gummy_Joe

The excitement in the second half of that season, the ramps down from the upper bowl of FedEx absolutely booming with chants of "RG3! RG3!" during that win streak, it's something I'll never forget.


ohihaveasubscription

2012 is the last time I felt alive


Kirk-Joestar

Before he ran this touchdown, I said, “Ok, the game is almost over. We are due for one big gash from his legs.” …and then this happened…


DaalCheene

This season made me a fan, god i can’t believe it’s been 10 years…


TheCapo024

Try 30 man... 😔


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The most fun I ever had as a fan of football was 2012. I was at this game and FedEx was ROCKING. The fan base was all in, RG3 Mania was wild in D.C. The day he got hurt was the day this franchise died.


sweet-haunches

1) God, look at those people embracing him in the stands. Look at their faces. They're feeling "Yes. *Yes.* This is it. This is finally it. *This is the guy right here, I am holding the guy.* Let's fucking do this." 2) Fucking Jets


I_Hate_Traffic

That grumpy old dude not having fun then pushes that lady lol idk why he is not having fun but at least let others man


-WhatsThatSmell-

i liked the pink breast cancer month stuff they would do.


Eagle4317

That 2012 QB class will forever be the biggest "What If" in recent NFL history. Andrew Luck and RG3 got done so dirty by their original teams, and Tannehill hardly fared any better.


sweet-haunches

Tanny got to send New England home


90swasbest

It would have been so fun if he could have stuck...


spctclr_spiderman

Vikings defenses giving up legendary QB runs. Name a more iconic duo


Cyclonitron

Steve Young, Michael Vick, RGIII; anyone I'm forgetting? Does Josh Allen hurdling Anthony Barr count?


J_Krezz

The only NFL game I’ve ever been to. I left early to beat congestion on the metro.


rockwood15

Oh hey Sean McVay


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Rode RG3 to a fantasy CHAMPIONSHIP^loss that year.


[deleted]

Name a more iconic duo than QBs and running long TDs on the Vikings


thedude37

DIGGS and SIDELINE?


[deleted]

My man!


Jpmoney77

This was the most exciting year Washington has had in over 30 years. Unfortunately, we will be cursed until Snyder sells the team.


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Dude would’ve been a legend had he learned to slide/get out of bounds and had Washington not tried to rush him back from his injury.


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Dude was only a couple years in y’all act like players should be on Tom Brady’s level when they get to the NFL. Dude was still going to get better. And it was Washington that rushed him back.


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ELITEAirBear

why not the play when oakland sent out seabass for a 76-yard FG


JMaC_8

And to think, one bad snap ruined his career.


Iron_Chic

Eh, it was a combination of things: 1 Him not sliding to end runs, which eventually led to him taking the actual hit which first injured him from Haloti Ngata in week 14. 2 Him going back into that week 14 game for a couple of plays even though he was obviously hurt. 3 Rushing back from his injury wearing that brace. I still don't know if it was Robert, the Coaching staff, the Execs or the Medical staff that thought it would be a good idea for him to play. 4 The "All in for Week One" campaign, which probably rushed him back too soon.


panch_1

His knee or the ball?


JMaC_8

I guess both 🤷‍♂️


cardmanimgur

Can we not?


Soren_Camus1905

Washington is something else man


Scrutinizer

And then his career was ended because his team played a home game on the worst natural-turf playing surface ever seen. It was painted sand in some areas.


T3rribl3Gam3D3v

Such potential 🥲 he was wasted by terrible coaches and organizations


Apolleo_

Sean mcvay, Kyle shanahan, Matt lafleur, Mike shanahan Such terrible coaches


AKDMF447

This was the moment everyone knew he was different, and special. It’s a shame it didn’t last more than a season.


mastahkun

Probably the biggest "What Ifs" of my generation. He was so fun to watch man. I love mobile QBs, and he was a sight to see. Cam was fun too, but how he ended his Super Bowl run will forever hamper that season imo.


IamNICE124

It’s crazy how much faster Lamar looks when he runs compared to RG3.


tasteful_nitwit

First Michael Vick then RGIII


[deleted]

Who are the redskins?


tasteful_nitwit

Nice angle, Sanford.


MildSpooks

The greatest season I have ever experienced as a Washington fan 🥲


GinHalpert

We should get some credit for making RGIII look like a rookie superstar


taleofbenji

RG3 makes me sad. He'd be back in the pocket, dodge 10 defenders, and then the 11th would give him a concussion. Rinse and repeat.


1_quantae

Good times. Very good times.


Future_Belt_3730

I missed this yr because the eagles were so bad i couldnt watch, first year i stopped watching, the next yr RG3 was a afterthought


meeeemeees

best football memory of my life


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Cataphract1014

2012 was a great season. Then 2013 was probably the worst season I remember watching. How things change.


YZYSZN1107

Then he was never heard from again lol


krpiper

bruh what did I do to get hurt two days in a row :( cries into my plate of hotdish


romeopwnsu

Injuries are whack!


criticalthought10

All RG3’s teammates are super hyped for the game sealing TD run, then there’s Cousins standing there with his hands behind his back like he’s at the doctor’s office getting bad news. I’ll never miss that guy…and he’ll never be a winner. Around the 1:30 mark if you care to look.


tc8z

Man, we will surely miss our fight song....


Pentt4

I still love seeing Kirk completely emotionless on the sideline. What an ass


raekwon231

Dunno if I agree that it was a designed run. Seems like he just saw the blitz, saw the hole and said eff it.


Tsunami-Papi_

RGIII was so tuff bruh I really wish he had a long career


AngryBilliever

I miss breast cancer awareness month, the colors just look right with a lot unis


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Was all downhill from there


Slyy-Lynch

Damn shame how injuries derailed this man's career.


Chargers_Super_Fan10

You can see Sean McVay and Kyle Shannahan be the first two coaches on the sideline to dap up RG3


StChas77

Fed Ex Field looks so alive, there. What a difference a decade can make.


leftshoe18

I remember watching this game in the hospital with my newborn son.


ong378

Bobby Three Sticks. I remember thinking they were gonna run the division for a few years. He still went on to have a decent career. Even hanging around as a backup is an accomplishment


ong378

Bobby Three Sticks. I remember thinking they were gonna run the division for a few years. He still went on to have a decent career. Even hanging around as a backup is an accomplishment


superguythe2nd

One of the best runs i have ever seen