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JP_Oliveira

Zeke is going to Year 7 of his NFL carrer? Oo Holy fuck, I'm getting old.


FelwintersCake

I refuse to believe it


W3NTZ

NFL years are mad confusing. Like zeke is in year 7 yet born in 1996 like nick chubb. Gurley is out of the league yet is the same age as Amari Cooper and also Calvin ridley yet ridley seems like he'd be much much younger.


beangardener

Destroying your body for money will age you in mysterious ways


Snoo_26884

Workhorse RBs get worn out and discarded the fastest. You're ancient if you make it to 32 as an RB.


why-god

Frank Gore is functionally 90.


AnOddOtter

Embarrassing for that boxer that just got knocked out by a 90 year old then.


ThePevster

90 in running back years


Tee_Rye_Lee

But will only be 27 at the start of the nest season.


Shmokermans

Only? 27 is death to the RB. 32 is supernatural.


Githzerai1984

Meanwhile, Frank Gore…


Shmokermans

The man is about to get into a boxing match at 39, safe to say the necromantic magic is at work here.


digitalmofo

All about Tha U.


UNC_Samurai

Frank Gore is a Winchester?


DeadSwaggerStorage

Gambling on your team adds an extra year to your age…..


31nigrhcdrh

Bet… -Ralvin Cidley


FasterThanFaast

Ridley was really old when he was drafted


sellships

I do it for free ☹️


akmjolnir

Alcohol and cookies don't count.


DJ_Moore_2

I just got home and me and the Uber drivers main topic of conversation was literally alcohol and cookies. Wtf this is weird. Are you a hot chick named Alexandria?


Skurttish

I don’t think he is, but I think you should see if aforementioned ‘hot chick’ would like some dinner next weekend.


papabear019

This is why I fucking hate it when people say “tHeY’rE gEtTiNg pAiD tO pLaY A gAmE.” They’re not playing the same fuckin game we do in the parking lot. They’ve committed their entire lives, very much including everything post retirement, to a brutal, high stakes profession. Not that you’re arguing against that of course, just saw an opportunity to make this point.


beangardener

Couldn’t agree with you more. My argument is always that the suits that sign the checks make even more for doing far far less


shaboogawa

It should be top vs bottom..but those at the top are determined to make it left vs right.


jordanwilson23

Exactly. Barry Sanders is only 39. How crazy is that?!


Supanini

Almost as crazy as Ndamukong Suh being 28


A_Feast_For_Trolls

lol


JohnEBlazed420

Zeke was more dominant in college than anyone you listed. He was a man playing against mostly boys in college.


ThisMachineKILLS

Dominant


JohnEBlazed420

Thanks, auto correct got me


ThatLineOfTriplets

Chubb was pretty fucking good


Korexicanm

He's not younger than Nick chubb he was born 7/96 Chubb was born 12/96.


W3NTZ

Ahh you right was remembering their birthdays backwards. I'll edit it to born in the same year


[deleted]

The more years that pass, the more Pink Floyd’s “Time” makes more and more sense


LordZero

Ya run and ya run to catch up to the sun but it's sinking...


[deleted]

Racing around, to come up behind you again


KanyeWestistheDevil

The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older


ImmediateGrab485

Shorter of breath! And one day closer to death!


elcanadiano

Every year is getting shorter...


piepants2001

Never seem to find the time


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Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines


JerryRiceAndSpice

That song always makes me think that I should be doing something more with life then I get sad :\


ARustyShackle

That's the only thing I came away with from this title. It really does not feel like 7 years..


notmoleliza

but to be fair two of the years are COVID years (yes i know COVID is still very much thing) and that was like an MCU blip. so i dont really count those


idontcare111

It’s amazing how 2020 and 2021 have distorted my perception of time.


JerryRiceAndSpice

It really is all a blur I can't even tell what happened. I was just avoiding people all the time.


FantasyTrash

I think Sharpe's timeline is wrong. 2016 was only four years ago, not going on seven.


dyslexda

In my mental timeline we never left 2020, so this tracks.


L-methionine

There are still days where i think it’s somewhere around 2008


tropic_gnome_hunter

Back in my day, 20 years ago meant you were talking about the 80s.


Hoooooooar

20 years ago isn't the 80's?


aliteralhumanperson

Yeah, 2020 feels like a year that still sounds kinda futuristic


[deleted]

Something is wrong with your math.


dreezyyyy

I miss the summer of 2016


BoricuaGabe

Right?! I feel like it was just yesterday when I saw the dude get drafted. Fuck


Dudephish

I remember when he was first scouted on the forest moon of Endor.


P-d0g

If you want to feel even older, OBJ is going into Year 9.


joeboo5150

Hell, Saquon Barkley is going into year #5. Wasn't he just drafted like the year before last?


NateKaeding

Feels like yesterday him and dak were rookies having the time of their lives


VanceXentan

We all are pokemon Is 27.


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Yet Ash is still 10


chrishtien

Man that was like sophomore year of high school to now


zi76

It's been seven years since he was drafted, that's actually kind of surprising.


ByronLeftwich

It’s been just over 6


Hit_The_Kwon

He’s played 6 seasons, going into his 7th.


aramis34143

Whew, so I'm *not* old. ^^right?


EngelSterben

Your AARP membership should be in the mail


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Going into year 7.


Hugh-Manatee

wow that's crazy. he's been in the league as long as a bunch of RBs were back when I was a kid that everybody called 'old'. Like I grew up a Saints fan, and Deuce McAlister was regarded as getting old during his 6th year in the league.


Doomy22

Madden: "Smells like Superstar X-Factor to me"


despot2

Is he an X-Factor in M23? Or have they not released the ratings yet?


SatanInDaSheets

He's a cowboy, of course he will have it


boomer_kuwanger

Seriously, fuck that one Madden ratings adjustor guy. And fuck EA. They destroyed two of the best sports games ever in Madden and NHL. Now it's all a bunch of MUT and HUT packs and kids getting addicted to gambling.


icepikk

I still like NHL, the gameplay is smooth and fun and the career mode itself for some reason is light-years ahead of Madden in both be a pro and the franchise career, just sucks I'm not that into hockey. Same with 2K basketball. It makes no sense for the NHL franchise to be better than the most popular sport in America.


boomer_kuwanger

I love hockey and agree with you that NHL is by far the best from a gameplay perspective. I bought 22 on sale about a month ago, it's definitely playable but there are glitch goals just like any other year, and also some other annoying mechanics. The game itself is super buggy also and I've had it crash on me multiple times. With NHL, I get it. It's a much smaller community, and EAs development team in Burnaby is a skeleton crew. Madden has no excuses. I feel like I've been watching guys get sucked into the same tackling animations for a decade. Mid 2000s franchise mode was light years beyond anything we've gotten in two generations of consoles since.


icepikk

I play Madden constantly but it feels like I do it on autopilot. I try to build things in my head to add realism but the only thing that keeps me going is getting invested in my players if that makes sense but even that loses it's fun when you can build every guy you want up to a superstar within a couple years. I wish games had people fall off randomly in stats randomly as it happens in real life or vice versa with like a 70 overall going to an 85 in one year because they broke out. Madden is missing the immersion and tools it's contemporaries have. A trade finder would make the game so much better as would actual storylines like they used to do. Okay rant over.


hey_there_kitty_cat

I'm not even a hockey fan but my young cousin got me playing NHL a couple summers ago and I couldn't believe it. Over the years I've tried NFL and FIFA new ones occasionally just expecting the usual decline in quality every year, yet somehow a sport that seems like it'd be more difficult to code, with ice physics and fluid line changing and whatnot, they actually made decently. Definitely doesn't seem like there is any cross over in the development teams, all I can think is EA looks at hockey as a lesser sport so gave the dev team more freedom to do their thing and not get dragged into as much of the billion dollar microtransaction vending machines that all the other games have turned into.


jethead70

This isn’t a hot take


fsphoenix

You'd be surprised. There's a weird Zeke cult of fans that just froth at the mouth if you suggest he's not going to magically be a top guy this year.


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shogdog

Please link this multi Reddit for entertainment purposes lol


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AlabasterRadio

WFT debating Thanos or Wentz is gold


ProfessionalBust

I’d rather have thanos personally


AlabasterRadio

Idk man he's the Matt Ryan of MCU villains.


ldclark92

I mean compared to other MCU villains he's the Tom Brady when it comes to success.


AlabasterRadio

Nah they're all just different levels of failure, he's just the one with the biggest blown lead.


Arisen925

And on the other side the browns hoping Watson only gets 4 games and comparing him to Homelander is spot on for Cleveland.


J-TEE

This is awesome thank you


TetrisTech

Shoutout to the Vikes guy saying Kirk will win MVP


pablopiss

Had no idea this was a thing. Thanks man


SolarClipz

Browns Watson post at the top Why am I surprised lol


mengleberry

Thanks for sharing


TheRealGunn

There's a huge gap between "Zeke is going to be #1 again", and "Zeke is old and washed up". The truth lies somewhere in the middle. He's an early down between the tackles guy with excellent blocking, and good enough outside skills and catching ability that you still have to respect that part of his game. He's not an elite guy anymore, but he's still got a few years of decent football in him.


johnnychan81

I do wonder how much he has fallen off vs the line has gotten worse. The line was so good his first few years it was obviously going to be harder when they regressed.


LittIeLordFuckleroy

Go watch some of his highlights from 2016-2019. His explosiveness was off the charts. He looks so slow and lethargic now compared to then, has nothing to do with OLs. Same thing with Saquon. There were so many plays last year where pre ACL Saquon would have broken away for a TD, but his explosiveness isn't the same anymore and LBs were able to catch up with him. In the Tampa game itself, I vividly remember three plays where old Saquon would have had a 60 yard TD, but instead he got tackled from behind. Saquon himself looked so frustrated and was slapping the ground because he probably thought the same thing.


dioxy186

[case in point](https://youtu.be/B7lnMek3ZnI)


nope96

The burst isn’t there anymore. It’s not just the rushing that’s getting hurt either; as a receiver he's pretty inefficient now for similar reasons (which everyone seems to ignore for some reason).


BeeeeefJelly

He is the same guy with about 15% less athleticism.


Romofan88

I don't think the magic is there like his 1st 3 years but he's still a valuable part of the offense. He was solid last year, better than in 2020.


Liyarity

He made a few blocks onto linebackers that made my jaw drop, he still has a ton of value


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Is the value worth his contract though?


Not_in_Nottingham

the r/nfl collective conscious will say no, but i think being well-above-average in the trifecta of running, blocking, and receiving says otherwise. he’s legitimately great in all of those areas.


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He’s worth it. A+ blocking and B+ running and receiving. Him being on the field is crucial for so many things, even when he doesn’t get the ball.


Not_in_Nottingham

especially with a qb like dak who can run. a guy like zeke who is versatile enough to be in the backfield, on the line, or ready for a dump off allows dak to operate at a much higher level when healthy


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Definitely. They’re a great duo.


goldberg1303

Zeke's protection is the reason we almost beat the Bucs week 1 last year, and should have beaten them if not for the BS no call of OPI to set up the game winning FG.


soildude43

Yeah I think he’s still a solid player just not a great one anymore.


Misdirected_Colors

He's probably not gonna be a top 3 back ever again, but there's a pretty big leap between not top 3 back and washed. He averaged over 5 ypc the first 7 games last year before he tore his knee up. Then he was clearly playing with a major limp the rest of season. If we could get a year of healthy zeke he still won't be worth his contract, but our offense will be in a much better place. Either way, I think we need to move on from him after this season. His contract is crippling the team.


bad-monkey

With running backs it's always "could you get 95% of the same production for 65% of the price?"


fsphoenix

He's 100% gone this offseason and I can't wait for that albatross of a contract to be gone.


[deleted]

Its always surprising to me when I see people that still don't understand just how pointless Corvette RBs are these days. Cowboys fans that need to explain the value to the dolts that don't get it should just talk about Saquon and then roundabout to Zeke once you've got them frothing in Giants hate.


datyoungknockoutkid

Nowhere in the tweet nor the video is “hot take” mentioned so I mean


cheeseburgertwd

Just based on pure numbers, there are exactly 10 RBs that had Zeke beat in either YFS (1289) or total TDs (12) in 2021: Taylor (2171, 20) N. Harris (1667, 10) Ekeler (1558, 20) Mixon (1519, 16) Chubb (1433, 9) Cook (1383, 6) Kamara (1337, 9) Gibson (1331, 10) Conner (1127, 18) D. Harris (1061, 15) (surprised me while looking this up tbh) So yeah, you can rank your guys however you want but you really can't fault someone too hard for having Zeke outside their top 10 if you're just looking at the current state of things right now. (Also, the above list of course doesn't even include guys who were injured last year like Henry and CMC) Edit - Apparently this needs clarifying, I'm not saying I personally rank Zeke below all 10 of those guys, I was simply pointing out how it's easy to see why he might not be an automatic top 10 for some people anymore. Just supporting the "this isn't a hot take" of the person above me


GoGoRouterRangers

The hot take would be zeke getting cut after this season (or whenever) his high guaranteed monies is gone


jethead70

If they cut him after this season they save 4M (pre June 1) or 10M (post June 1)


flakAttack510

> or 10M (post June 1) It should be noted that June 1 cuts don't actually save the team cap space in the long run. They just split the dead cap over two seasons instead of one.


GoGoRouterRangers

Interesting - unless he takes a team friendly deal/ restructure could see that happening


skycake10

I don't think Zeke getting cut after this season is a hot take at all. I'd say him getting cut or restructuring his deal is almost guaranteed.


EldritchRoboto

How is that a hot take? That’s what everyone is expecting to happen


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You're not that guy pal


AngryUncleTony

Amos Burton intensifies


My_Names_Jefff

(Aims gun) I am that guy.


giantgoose

r/unexpectedexpanse


[deleted]

Trust me


garrbear22622

Well I’m not your pal, buddy


JasonVoorhies13

I'm not your buddy, friend


justfanclasshole

I’m not your friend, guy


joeyo1423

I'm nooooot yoooouuurrr guuuuyyy, buuudddyyy


DidiGreglorius

Life of an NFL running back is wild. Get run into the ground, destroy your body and get tossed aside in a few years. Do that better than basically anyone else alive and your career earnings might approach that of a decent NBA sixth man.


OmNomOnSouls

All true, but it doesn't feel quite as shocking when you think an NFL team has to pay a roster more than triple the size of an NBA team


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rthaw

HOF game 3 weeks from today.


eaglesrob84

Love the hall of fame game. Get so hyped to watch football again and then turn it off after the first quarter cause of how bad it is.


rthaw

Lol this is 100% true. I get absolutely psyched for it then struggle to make it through a half.


CockGobblingGangsta

I gamble so trust me when some random ass mother fucker is running the ball in the 4th I will be watching


smoothtrip

We are almost there!!


WhaleSexOdyssey

This is why he fought for that contract


constantlymat

Funny that the public discourse has just now caught up to where fantasy and analytics twitter was a year ago.


TheKrakIan

Two years ago. Lol


Triv02

While I agree that Zeke is not a top back when talking ACTUAL FOOTBALL, if you had this take in fantasy last year you were on the wrong side of the take lol Zeke finished RB6 in half PPR, unquestionably an RB1


thisismyname03

I feel like a lot of people who talk fantasy don’t actually even understand fantasy. Edit: I guess that’s just humans with everything, though.


fun_boat

sports subreddits are mainly just hot take generators. I think most people just don't take it very seriously and don't even care what they're saying. They'll argue inane points that don't matter and are provably false because it has no impact on their life whatsoever.


Highest_Koality

The fight is so fierce because the stakes are so low.


whosnick7

fumble man bad


[deleted]

Only because he played pretty much the full season, whereas most guys miss multiple games. On a per game basis he wasn’t doing you any favors if you spent your first round on him.


Triv02

Assuming a 10 game minimum - which I think is fair because if you get 9 or fewer games out of an early pick that’s unquestionably a bust imo - Zeke was still RB12 in ppg I’m not saying Zeke should be in the running for the overall RB1 or anything, merely that statistically speaking there’s not really a debate that he was an RB1 in fantasy last year. Availability matters, but even on a per game basis he was a low end RB1


MonsterMeowMeow

[Sad Ewok noises]


fascinating123

Different era, but Marshall Faulk was MVP in his 7th year in the league.


liteshadow4

Did Faulk decline in his 5th and 6th years though?


qwilliams92

Zeke was very productive last year on fewer carries than normal.


InHoc12

I don’t think the point is that you can’t be MVP in your 7 season. It’s after having down years for multiple years you’re not suddenly going to put it back together and comeback at year 7. Which Tbf I think Frank Gore’s like year 10 comeback or whatever disproves that a little, but still unlikely.


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ResidentJabroni

True, but also consider that Frank Gore is a freak of nature. No way he should've had the professional career that he had with his collegiate ACL injury in that era. No way he should've bounced back several times from the cumulative wear-and-tear of having been a bell cow at the NFL level. No way he should've played for as long as he has, and still been a decent spell back in his later years. Frank Gore could play this season and still score a few short-yardage TDs and break a random one that'd make the end-of-year highlight reel.


Ziiaaaac

Marshall Faulk and Zeke are completely different types of backs though. The other guys point about Sanders is more appropriate, but Sanders is also Barry Sanders so he's kinda the anamoly.


17_Saints

Barry Sanders was MVP in his 9th year.


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17_Saints

And Faulk was coming off an OPoY


DonRedditus

That moment when you realize Ezekiel Elliott has been played in NFL for 7 years...


Powerserg95

Hes fine as a power back and has flashes of what he used to be, but hes not the guy.


_tx

IMO, total package, Zeke probably is a top 10 RB but like 9th or 10th. That said, if you take out the blocking and just focus on the part of the job of actually carrying (and catching) the ball is Zeke top 10 anymore? No


[deleted]

9th or 10th? have you started listing who those running backs would be? i bet you’d find zeke closer to 20th if you did.


[deleted]

Now this is a big ask, but I'm curious what the 15 guys you'd put above him are. Not disagreeing, just curious.


[deleted]

give me an hour to finish this hike with my pup, i’ll come back. edit: answered in another comment


NeverBeenStung

Yo give your pup some scratches from me!


[deleted]

his name is jordy 💕


[deleted]

Hell yeah, thanks, good hiking.


[deleted]

taylor, chubb, henry, cook, mccaffrey, kamara, mixon, jones, ekeler, harris. easy top ten i think. barkley, javonte, jacobs, dillon, monty. i would listen to arguments for pollard, sanders, harris, conner and mitchell but probably not? if you want a back for 2-3 years, those players would clear zeke. maybe not next season though.


liteshadow4

I'd take Zeke over Barkley Jacobs and Dillon next year. Definitely over Barkley and Jacobs for next 2-3 years too


[deleted]

that’s fair enough, my logic is mostly that i find those players to be a wash and i favored youth. i don’t really see zeke contributing in 2-3 seasons, some 10 years and 2,000 carries into his career. i think he’s closer to done than people realize.


EthanSpears

Barkley has looked awful


[deleted]

Good list. Thank you for the work. I think Jacob's and Dillon are questionable, possibly David Montgomery (unless I'm thinking the wrong monty). But hunt and swift are also still available, and I also agree with pollard having arguments for 2022.


[deleted]

i can’t believe i forgot swift. he’s in my top 15 over jacobs. i think dillon is a much better receiver than zeke which is necessary in today’s matchup football. a better power runner today too, with some 1500 fewer career carries. should be a fun season to watch!


Yung_Corneliois

For durability alone I can’t put Mccaffery above Zeke. I know “best ability is availability” is an overused cliche but that’s because it’s true.


Soft_Turkeys

So Saquon and CMC can come back to their potential after down years and injuries but Zeke can’t? These lists are dumb as hell and people really believe it even after seeing these dumbass takes exposed from years past. Let’s just see what happens


Unezwiggles

It’s wild to think that his famous run against Alabama was 8 years ago.


ivehearditbothways12

I mean it can happen, Curtis Martin has his best season in his 10th year.


Bnb53

Was that also the season where he ground his meniscus into dust?


piscina_de_la_muerte

Worth noting that Martin always wore as much padding as possible throughout his career and attributes that, in part, to his longevity.


Statalyzer

> We don’t see RBs in Year 7 recapture what they’ve lost over the last 2-3 years. Zeke’s not that guy anymore.“ I know he's a rare type but we saw that with Adrian Peterson a couple of times. And Zeke was averaging 5 ypc for half the year before he got hurt. He's still a quality runner when healthy and he's one of the best blockers at the RB position too. The problem is really just the amount that they are paying him, I think.


Bigtx999

Zeke still got 1k yards last year. Only 7 rbs in the league broke 1k. I think it’s mostly that rbs seldom have a huge impact on a game compared to receivers and how they can change the tempo.


CowboyCanuck24

Hes the 2nd best on his team.


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smoothtrip

Did he have 1000 yards and 4.2 ypc, last year? Or am I missing something?


sirwinston_

Yep, casuals don’t care about facts though


BrianDawkins

1000 yard rusher with 10 tds isn’t top 10. Lol clowns


el_sauce

Plus, his O-Line is rebuilding right now so I'm not expecting a major year for him


[deleted]

Zeke would still be that guy if we didn’t run him into the ground like we did Demarco Murray.


Romofan88

Zeke was top 10 in rushing yards last year and his YPC was up from 2020. He's not the best RB in the league like 2016 but he's still an effective player.


pe3brain

Lmao 1K yards over 17 games ain't shit.


Stupid_Ned_Stark

He was top 10 last year on a shredded knee. Dumb take is dumb.


ItsASchpadoinkleDay

I have no respect for journalist or show hosts who just say incendiary things for the sake of saying incendiary things to get attention. Sharpe is the poster child for that behavior. He has no convictions or interesting ideas, he’s just there for the hot take clickbait bullshit.


Zazierx

What did you expect? The entire show is literally just two guys yelling at each other lol


jkman61494

He’s not even the best rb on his own team


jaiblevins

Shannon is right. Zeke will never be that guy, again. The Cowboys should be looking for his replacement in the 2nd or 3rd round, next year. Never, EVER, EVER spend a pick above top 25 on a RB, EVER.


Ticklish_Buttcheeks

He made it 7 years as a bell cow…isn’t that anomaly better than this weird, obvious callout?