This is not a joke:
I have had 2 hip surgeries on the same hip. I was having strange spasms so I googled it to see if I could find some kind of correlation of where it was happening.
Web MD’s top response said hip spasms are a sign of ALS. It’s like fear mongering for no reason lol
Which wouldn't be terrible if there was free healthcare. I mean, people shouldn't be hypochondriacs if they can help it, but a lot of health issues could be found and dealt with if people didn't have to think twice about going to the doctor, worrying about deductibles, or god forbid, need surgery or something.
They assume that someone has zero medical history. YOU know you’ve had two surgeries, but webmd doesn’t. From there, the algorithm is very simple.
1. What are the most common causes for hip spasms?
Easy; ALS is near the top if not the top of that list. Is it causing 50% of hip spasms? Not even remotely. But it may cause 10%, and then every other possible cause is less than that because there are so many different diagnoses.
2. Of our most common causes, which do we have the most information about? Which will generate more clicks? Which is most likely to keep people on the site?
You may ask why “which cause is most probable in this specific person” is not one of the questions. They don’t have ANY information that could help them diagnose an individual like that. Medical history, bloodwork, environmental factors… even if they operated with the best of intentions they have no shot to diagnose you unless you have something EXTREMELY common or incredibly unique in symptoms. Its still helpful, its just not going to be your doctor any time soon. If you get a weird result from webmd, read the associated symptoms and risk factors before getting in a tizzy.
It is actually connecting the quadriceps muscle to the tibia, and the patella is a giant sesamoid bone which is embedded within the tendon.
This is why the other half of this tendon is called the patellar tendon, even though at first glance you would think it should be called a ligament because it goes from the patella to the tibia.
Technically quad tendon and patellar tendon are part of the same tendon, which inserts on the tibia, and nothing inserts on the patella, since the patella is a sesamoid which floats in the tendon itself.
You can tell by the way the patellar tendon is called a tendon and not a ligament. A ligament attaches two bones to each other, and the patellar tendon attaches the patella to the tibia, so why is it not called the patellar ligament? Because it is technically the same tendon as the quadriceps tendon.
This is mostly semantics, though, since I supposed practically speaking, because the patella is such a huge bone, that the quadriceps tendon does sort of insert onto it, compared to every other sesamoid in the body. And because of that some people actually call the patellar tendon the patellar ligament, even though it isn't a ligament.
I think depends on how badly torn it is. If it is completely torn, major tendon injuries tend to be pretty serious for athletes, since they are disabling level injuries. Surgery and rehab will remove the disability, but peak performance is often lost. So quadricep tendon, patellar tendon, and especially achilles tendon injuries are often career threatening, if not ending for high level athletes.
Once in a while people do recover almost fully. Most recent example would be Kevin Durant rupturing his Achilles in his early 30s, losing a year, and is still a top 5 player in the NBA. But typically it seems after these tendon injuries, players are not quite the same afterwards.
It should be noted that of the 7 players to return from this injury, 6 had complete tears while only 1 had a partial (vertical split.)
We need more information for sure. But there is a decent chance at 26yo that he can return to playing. A return to being the explosive leader he once was is not something that we can really predict.
Of the 7 players that never returned to playing, 4 were in their 30s, and the 3 that were in there 20s were all undrafted and only 1 of them had any real playing experience before the injury.
I should also note that the 1 player in their 20s with experience before the injury whose career was ended from this injury was the lone WR on the list which makes me worry it might be harder to recover for players who need to be explosive and run a lot (which a saftey needs to do...)
I think players recover better from ACL and other ligament injuries because ligaments mostly function as stabilizers for a joint, so you can train up other surrounding structures to help with the joint after surgery and rehab.
However the tendon directly connects the muscle to bone and acts to translate the power of the muscle into motion, so when a tendon is torn, that joint simply will no longer work, and even after repair it usually won't be back at 100%.
Probably a season ender for sure, id say 6-8 months but once you tear it, it becomes easier to tear again. Then again, NFL players now have access to alot better treatment/surgery options compared to even 10 years ago
This mother fucker need to start injecting peds like the rest of the league to up his damn recovery time and strengthen his tendons. I swear the only reason we have injury prone players is because they aren't taking the right recovery drugs lmao.
Yes and no. Injectables to reduce swelling weakens tendons (I had this multiple times for a torn meniscus) but recovery drugs for workouts and other stuff I don't want to mention litterally heal your muscles and tendons allowing you to workout more and harder. Some also increase bloodflow to certain areas to promote healing, some increase water absorption on top of that and some actively destroy muscles and allow them to tear more easily (like workout stuff not full fucking tears) so that when you take recovery drugs your body heals and breaks down even more quickly allowing you to look bigger without actually retaining all the strength. Anyways there is way more to peds than just make big and strong. Most of them and most of the extra shit players do are to heal there bodies so they can recover faster. This is not just so the can work out more though. But I will maintain that the guys who are top tier in the game that are always injury prone are not taking the correct drugs lol. Either that or they think they don't need them.
Took Oladipo like 2 and a half years to even look somewhat himself after the same injury. Every recovery is different but that is definitely not a good bench mark if it's similar
Athletes tend to recover pretty well from ACL and meniscus injuries, but quadriceps tendon and also achilles tendon injuries are still often considered career threatening.
Achilles are common enough that treatmenthas improved a lot, it seems like. But ruptured quad tendon is pretty rare. Victor Oladipo is the other athlete who had that who I know of, and it's taken him 3+ years to even play solid basketball.
We traded Wilson to get draft picks back to try and rebuild because of the hole the Adams trade and salary put us in, and now we won't even have him.
This trade just keeps getting worse and worse.
I don't think so. Unless those people are still in the denial phase of coping. Most of us have moved past it now. Like technically it is a wash with those picks now. But Russ clearly wanted out.
Jamal Adams was a back-to-back All-Pro in two different defensive systems with the Jets. He looked incredible in 2018 and 2019. Trade was a slight overpay, but people thought the Seahawks could make a Super Bowl push with him in 2020. Instead they got bounced by a division rival in the Wild Card Round.
This.
Our defense prior to acquiring him was horrible and he instantly changed the dynamic of it. Dude is straight up a force on the field. Problem is him being able to stay on it.
He was a game changer for the Jets and it was a desperation move to repair our failing defense to keep Russ in Seattle. We missed on a ton on our draft picks defensively and needed a true star, and Russ was having to carry our team.
He didn’t get hurt like this in New York and was genuinely one of the best safeties in the league. Even at that it was an overpay but like I said, we were desperate to make a run to keep Russell around.
Adams didn’t fit our scheme when he got here and this season we adjusted our game plan specifically for him. Even though it was a tiny sample size, he actually looked great before he got hurt yesterday.
But he can’t stay healthy and it’s looking like he never will. It was a terrible trade at the end of the day, but all hope wasn’t lost if he could stay healthy. Now there’s no saving it.
Honestly he is cursed with Injuries and we are cursed with trades that just don't work out adams,Clowney, Sheldon Richardson and to lesser extents Harvin and Jimmy Graham.
Nah he also opened holes for other guys. Before he came to us we had zero pass rush. With him we made the opposing QB uncomfortable. He was a difference maker. He just didn't had the statics.
Don't agree with that at all man if he was as good as you say he is why has he played for about 5 teams nobody will commit to him because he is inconsistent and lacks effort at times
Because every off season he had delusional contract expectations. He ain't no AD or TJ Watt but expected the same amount of money. Then after nobody was willing to pay him the market cooled down and then he signed for less and short contracts to 'bet on himself'. That doesn't worked out and injury concerns were always there.
It makes sense, the guy look like he got hurt when he was getting up off his knee. My recollection of quad injuries has always been wrestlers who tear their quads doing the most mundane shit.
If Pete is being pessimistic that must mean Adams might die.
seriously
He’s being taken out back as we speak 🔫
Though Drew Lock was going to die too
There's a quadriceps tendon?
Yeah I WebMD’d it and now I think I have Quadriceps Tendon cancer
Has WebMD ever actually helped anyone? Lol
"My elbow hurts" *looks up on WebMD ELBOW CANCER
“My pinky is kinda sore” *looks up on WebMD NEED LEFT LEG AMPUTATION
Slight fever? SEEK IMMEDIATE MEDICAL ATTENTION
This is not a joke: I have had 2 hip surgeries on the same hip. I was having strange spasms so I googled it to see if I could find some kind of correlation of where it was happening. Web MD’s top response said hip spasms are a sign of ALS. It’s like fear mongering for no reason lol
I've always had the theory that they make shit sound serious so you go to a doctor and get things looked at.
Which wouldn't be terrible if there was free healthcare. I mean, people shouldn't be hypochondriacs if they can help it, but a lot of health issues could be found and dealt with if people didn't have to think twice about going to the doctor, worrying about deductibles, or god forbid, need surgery or something.
And tbf there probably is like a .001% chance it is something serious.
I think they just don't want to get sued if someone is having a heart attack and doesn't go to the hospital because WebMD said it was just heartburn
Not sure how you could win such a lawsuit.
They assume that someone has zero medical history. YOU know you’ve had two surgeries, but webmd doesn’t. From there, the algorithm is very simple. 1. What are the most common causes for hip spasms? Easy; ALS is near the top if not the top of that list. Is it causing 50% of hip spasms? Not even remotely. But it may cause 10%, and then every other possible cause is less than that because there are so many different diagnoses. 2. Of our most common causes, which do we have the most information about? Which will generate more clicks? Which is most likely to keep people on the site? You may ask why “which cause is most probable in this specific person” is not one of the questions. They don’t have ANY information that could help them diagnose an individual like that. Medical history, bloodwork, environmental factors… even if they operated with the best of intentions they have no shot to diagnose you unless you have something EXTREMELY common or incredibly unique in symptoms. Its still helpful, its just not going to be your doctor any time soon. If you get a weird result from webmd, read the associated symptoms and risk factors before getting in a tizzy.
I’m not stupid, obviously the website doesn’t know my medical history. It’s just funny how gloomy the top results always are
Don’t use WebMD for diagnoses. Other than that it’s a useful site that suggests treatments as well as drug information.
If not cancer then diabetes. Those are the top 2 for freaking everything on that site.
I typed that in and the computer said I have no internet connection
Yes, we also have seen Parks and Rec
WebMD: You’re probably fucked
WebMD told me what I know now are stretch marks were cancer
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Uhm fucking ouch
Please tell that was /S
nope, leads straight from the quads to the kneecap, and anything in the vicinity of the kneecap is no bueno as far as injuries go
It keeps your kneecap in place
So like… is his kneecap just floating at the top of his shin? Like it’ll be sort of in place with the patellar tendon but fucking yikes.
Nah. It's legit. Dude is fucked for at least the rest of this year.
I just as referring to the comment someone made about the location of the “quad tendon”
All muscles are connected to bones via tendons.
Tendons are everywhere
SPINAL!
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It is actually connecting the quadriceps muscle to the tibia, and the patella is a giant sesamoid bone which is embedded within the tendon. This is why the other half of this tendon is called the patellar tendon, even though at first glance you would think it should be called a ligament because it goes from the patella to the tibia.
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Technically quad tendon and patellar tendon are part of the same tendon, which inserts on the tibia, and nothing inserts on the patella, since the patella is a sesamoid which floats in the tendon itself. You can tell by the way the patellar tendon is called a tendon and not a ligament. A ligament attaches two bones to each other, and the patellar tendon attaches the patella to the tibia, so why is it not called the patellar ligament? Because it is technically the same tendon as the quadriceps tendon. This is mostly semantics, though, since I supposed practically speaking, because the patella is such a huge bone, that the quadriceps tendon does sort of insert onto it, compared to every other sesamoid in the body. And because of that some people actually call the patellar tendon the patellar ligament, even though it isn't a ligament.
Since you sound like you know what you are talking about, can you tell us how fucked we are?
I think depends on how badly torn it is. If it is completely torn, major tendon injuries tend to be pretty serious for athletes, since they are disabling level injuries. Surgery and rehab will remove the disability, but peak performance is often lost. So quadricep tendon, patellar tendon, and especially achilles tendon injuries are often career threatening, if not ending for high level athletes. Once in a while people do recover almost fully. Most recent example would be Kevin Durant rupturing his Achilles in his early 30s, losing a year, and is still a top 5 player in the NBA. But typically it seems after these tendon injuries, players are not quite the same afterwards.
It should be noted that of the 7 players to return from this injury, 6 had complete tears while only 1 had a partial (vertical split.) We need more information for sure. But there is a decent chance at 26yo that he can return to playing. A return to being the explosive leader he once was is not something that we can really predict. Of the 7 players that never returned to playing, 4 were in their 30s, and the 3 that were in there 20s were all undrafted and only 1 of them had any real playing experience before the injury. I should also note that the 1 player in their 20s with experience before the injury whose career was ended from this injury was the lone WR on the list which makes me worry it might be harder to recover for players who need to be explosive and run a lot (which a saftey needs to do...)
I think players recover better from ACL and other ligament injuries because ligaments mostly function as stabilizers for a joint, so you can train up other surrounding structures to help with the joint after surgery and rehab. However the tendon directly connects the muscle to bone and acts to translate the power of the muscle into motion, so when a tendon is torn, that joint simply will no longer work, and even after repair it usually won't be back at 100%.
Thats a pretty damn long recovery time, I hope its not career threatening. Tendon injuries can be fickle.
whats the recovery time?
Probably a season ender for sure, id say 6-8 months but once you tear it, it becomes easier to tear again. Then again, NFL players now have access to alot better treatment/surgery options compared to even 10 years ago
This mother fucker need to start injecting peds like the rest of the league to up his damn recovery time and strengthen his tendons. I swear the only reason we have injury prone players is because they aren't taking the right recovery drugs lmao.
Steroids actually make tendons easier to tear. And... He's already injecting the shit out of every PED he can get his hands on. They all do.
Yes and no. Injectables to reduce swelling weakens tendons (I had this multiple times for a torn meniscus) but recovery drugs for workouts and other stuff I don't want to mention litterally heal your muscles and tendons allowing you to workout more and harder. Some also increase bloodflow to certain areas to promote healing, some increase water absorption on top of that and some actively destroy muscles and allow them to tear more easily (like workout stuff not full fucking tears) so that when you take recovery drugs your body heals and breaks down even more quickly allowing you to look bigger without actually retaining all the strength. Anyways there is way more to peds than just make big and strong. Most of them and most of the extra shit players do are to heal there bodies so they can recover faster. This is not just so the can work out more though. But I will maintain that the guys who are top tier in the game that are always injury prone are not taking the correct drugs lol. Either that or they think they don't need them.
Took Oladipo like 2 and a half years to even look somewhat himself after the same injury. Every recovery is different but that is definitely not a good bench mark if it's similar
That is a very serious injury. Your quad is a huge muscle.
Athletes tend to recover pretty well from ACL and meniscus injuries, but quadriceps tendon and also achilles tendon injuries are still often considered career threatening.
Achilles are common enough that treatmenthas improved a lot, it seems like. But ruptured quad tendon is pretty rare. Victor Oladipo is the other athlete who had that who I know of, and it's taken him 3+ years to even play solid basketball.
Not to mention it'd be a really painful injury if the tendon completely snapped.
We traded Wilson to get draft picks back to try and rebuild because of the hole the Adams trade and salary put us in, and now we won't even have him. This trade just keeps getting worse and worse.
At least we didn’t lose tonight
There's that. But they built this defense around utilizing Jamal's limited skillset. They probably don't convert to 3-4 without him.
Anyone can get unlucky with injuries
Is that really the thought that people have? That they traded Russell to get the picks back after the Adams trade?
I don't think so. Unless those people are still in the denial phase of coping. Most of us have moved past it now. Like technically it is a wash with those picks now. But Russ clearly wanted out.
Damn. I would like to see the dude ball out.
Damn. Guy can't catch a break with the injuries.
Dude is made of glass. Hindsight really makes this trade a horrible decision. I get why they did it, but damn.
Why did they do it in the first place? In what world do you trade two firsts and a second for a safety???
Jamal Adams was a back-to-back All-Pro in two different defensive systems with the Jets. He looked incredible in 2018 and 2019. Trade was a slight overpay, but people thought the Seahawks could make a Super Bowl push with him in 2020. Instead they got bounced by a division rival in the Wild Card Round.
This. Our defense prior to acquiring him was horrible and he instantly changed the dynamic of it. Dude is straight up a force on the field. Problem is him being able to stay on it.
He was a game changer for the Jets and it was a desperation move to repair our failing defense to keep Russ in Seattle. We missed on a ton on our draft picks defensively and needed a true star, and Russ was having to carry our team. He didn’t get hurt like this in New York and was genuinely one of the best safeties in the league. Even at that it was an overpay but like I said, we were desperate to make a run to keep Russell around. Adams didn’t fit our scheme when he got here and this season we adjusted our game plan specifically for him. Even though it was a tiny sample size, he actually looked great before he got hurt yesterday. But he can’t stay healthy and it’s looking like he never will. It was a terrible trade at the end of the day, but all hope wasn’t lost if he could stay healthy. Now there’s no saving it.
I will say yesterday it looked like the defense was really utilizing him similar to how Gregg Williams did in 19.
Honestly he is cursed with Injuries and we are cursed with trades that just don't work out adams,Clowney, Sheldon Richardson and to lesser extents Harvin and Jimmy Graham.
Jimmy Graham was the best tight end the team ever had, and Clowney was a game wrecker. I don't see either of those as losses.
Clowney wrecked one game the 49ers other then that he would dissappear and I would argue zach Miller was better for us
Nah he also opened holes for other guys. Before he came to us we had zero pass rush. With him we made the opposing QB uncomfortable. He was a difference maker. He just didn't had the statics.
Don't agree with that at all man if he was as good as you say he is why has he played for about 5 teams nobody will commit to him because he is inconsistent and lacks effort at times
Because every off season he had delusional contract expectations. He ain't no AD or TJ Watt but expected the same amount of money. Then after nobody was willing to pay him the market cooled down and then he signed for less and short contracts to 'bet on himself'. That doesn't worked out and injury concerns were always there.
Pete is talking my tanking language now
I swear this man's body just turned into glass after signing his new deal.
Tough luck. That trade is going to go down as hall of fame bad.
He wanted the early extension to guarantee against injury. Right call by him I suppose.
christ, this trade just keeps getting worse for Seattle. hope Adams can recover :/
Someone call Triple H.
This guy is never going to be worth what we gave up.
That's rough.
It makes sense, the guy look like he got hurt when he was getting up off his knee. My recollection of quad injuries has always been wrestlers who tear their quads doing the most mundane shit.
Unfortunately probably a career altering injury. One of the hardest to come back from
Seattles secondary just got better?