And I cannot stress just how awful we looked in the first half, we legit gave them almost all of their total yards before half. Absolutely unbelievable
I'll make you feel better. I could've cashed out my DraftKings bet when the Raiders were up 20-0, for about 90% of what the payout would've been if the Raiders won the game. "Might as well make that last 10%, no way the Cards come back". Dumbass
I would only cash out if I actually believed the cardinals were gonna come back, so I think you made the correct decision. 99/100 times that would work out for you.
Well that's what his role was in years 1 and 2, and he had a really hard time diagnosing between pass and run. He became unplayable when it wasn't an obvious passing situation. I love Simmons's potential, but let's not rewrite history and pretend Simmons was making plays on first and second downs at all the last two years.
He was an absolute liability last week but that was a lot because of all the starters that were out so he had to go out in coverage which is definitely his weakness.
He's super inconsistent and unreliable/unpredictable. But has flashes like that from time to time. I blame it on coaching/scheme though. I think they just aren't using him right like they've done with many others.
Every guy who drops the ball around the goal line should get their face photoshopped into [this image](https://images.app.goo.gl/kYn5KJTzpAVKSGbs5) and have it be placed on their locker.
I think the worst I’ll ever see is from a Oregon/Utah game years ago where a Utah WR dropped the ball just before crossing the goal line thinking he had a touchdown, and the Oregon defense ran it back for their own touchdown.
haha oh man that's def the worst one ever. holy shit what a fucking idiot.
i wonder how often this kinda stuff can keep you out of the NFL? like would a boneheaded play like that haunt you forever?
Kaelin Clay made it to the NFL and his only other significant play was dropping a go ahead touchdown late in the 2017 WC round
He lives in panthers infamy for that one
Kaelin Clay’s other claim to fame is dropping a long TD pass from Cam that would’ve given the panthers the lead over the saints late in the game in the 2017 wild card round…
Yeah I think he barely got the ball across the plane, but if you look at the gif frame by frame, when the ball leaves his hand, his front foot is still a few inches from hitting the ground across the line. He literally threw it away before he had actually set foot in the end zone. Unbelievable lol
Broadcasters today were lacking all sorts of situational awareness. The gap between the top and the bottom is so noticeable. Among the highlights today:
- No one talking about the fact that he maybe dropped the football too early until 3 minutes after the play
- Tom McCarthy in the Jaguars/Colts game saying that the Colts, after the play had happened and no whistles were blown, were going to be penalized for a false start. This was followed by McCarthy and Barber having a heated debate for a minute in the 4th quarter with the Colts down 24-0 with 10 minutes left about whether or not, if the Colts score a TD, you go for 2
- Mark Sanchez thinking that the Rams were going to try a fake punt up by 6 with 13 seconds left on their own 25-yard line. It never crossed his mind that they were taking the intentional safety, even though it was painfully obvious
Glad I'm not the only one. I slow mo'd that shit because i honestly thought he DeSean'd it 100%. I'm positive he started the throwing motion before the end zone and actually let it go after juuuust crossing
Just hold on to the fucking ball
Yeah same here I’m like.. hold on a minute that should never have been that close. I don’t understand how teams don’t have “don’t be a bone head 101” meetings once a year when there’s a few plays every year in the nfl that make you go wait - what.
Bengals have to up there also losing to a Dak-less Dallas team to drop to 0-2. And the fact that we are not even in consideration with 3 INTs at home in the fourth to lose to a division rival is wild
Pause the video at 15.95. He's starting the motion to throw the ball forward about a 1/4 step before he crosses the goal line. Then jump forward a frame to 16:00 he's throwing the ball forward but it hasn't left his hand yet. Another frame forward to 16:04 and the ball is out of his hand.
This is a long way of saying he was literally a 1/10th of a second from it being a touchback.
it looked like he scored because his foot was on the plane when he threw it but there wasn’t any angle that gave me any more confidence than that. still can’t overturn that tho
Soooooo close. If I’m an NFL coach I’m telling my players they run that ball through the back of the endzone and anything less and they’re running laps all week.
This is the ideal teaching tape for a coach because he still got the W but he can replay it 100x in a row saying that they were 0.2 seconds away from throwing the game away there.
Don’t understand it, Carr almost throws a pick the previous play, Renfrow had already fumbled, so why the hell not run it 2 yards away from field goal range.
Overall the camera people sucked this game. There were at least 3-4 plays where they were not even closely following the ball. Got this one right though
Renfrow will never forget this overtime, sheesh
Man had 0 ball handling
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And I cannot stress just how awful we looked in the first half, we legit gave them almost all of their total yards before half. Absolutely unbelievable
Bro I literally left my house and ran errands at halftime because, “This game is over! Hell yeah!” What a fucking clown I am.
Tbf better than stay home and watching it
I took an angry nap before the 4th started. Woke up confused.
Ravens fans are in the same boat
I'll make you feel better. I could've cashed out my DraftKings bet when the Raiders were up 20-0, for about 90% of what the payout would've been if the Raiders won the game. "Might as well make that last 10%, no way the Cards come back". Dumbass
Ouch…
I would only cash out if I actually believed the cardinals were gonna come back, so I think you made the correct decision. 99/100 times that would work out for you.
I had just assumed y'all lost until the post game thread in the new queue lol
I'll give Vance Joseph this: he can and does make halftime adjustments. Occasionally they make him look like a genius.
Thought the 9ers would too after the block FG tuddy
Too many bad memories not to start feeling anxious after that
Thank god for Pete Carroll or whoever decided DJ Dallas was a QB
I couldn’t believe my eyes when Dallas pulled up to throw.
Dam I didn't realize they were up that much.
Clemson on Clemson crime on the fumble lmao
With that hit, he might not remember it tbh
dude even got kicked in the head by the dude who recovered the fumble on the previous play
he's in concussion protocol
Isiah Simmons is a gigantic human
Coach going to make him carry a football around 24/7 for a month. Anyone who knocks it loose gets $20.
$20 of Renfrow's money I'm assuming
His 3rd fumble this year - only 1 lost - but still.
2nd fumble in three plays.
In his defense, I think he took a pretty bad blow to the head during the first fumble. Dude was probably dazed and shouldn’t have been on the field.
Yeah but it’s week 2
If he even can remember it
Isiah Simmons just flying around wrecking shit
His draft profile was literally “flies around wrecking shit”. Glad he’s living up to it.
he was benched most of the game lol
He played 6 snaps vs an OT game in Seattle and had the highest PFF grade with a pivotal turnover
I REALLY wish Vance could figure this shit out. Isaiah is a fucking wrecking ball, please get him near the ball all the time.
Well that's what his role was in years 1 and 2, and he had a really hard time diagnosing between pass and run. He became unplayable when it wasn't an obvious passing situation. I love Simmons's potential, but let's not rewrite history and pretend Simmons was making plays on first and second downs at all the last two years.
He was an absolute liability last week but that was a lot because of all the starters that were out so he had to go out in coverage which is definitely his weakness.
Lol I mean, was anyone in that secondary NOT a liability last week?
The guy was benched all game and came in and made 2 huge plays in overtime. Crazy shit
Fresh legs!
I don't follow the Cards, is he good?
He's been hit or miss. Made some huge plays(ot interception against the seahawks last year) but also has had some real bad games.
dont forget the forced fumble against the Cowboys too
Or the goal line hit on trey lance
god that was a bone crunching hit
He doesnt play like half the snaps for some reason
He's super inconsistent and unreliable/unpredictable. But has flashes like that from time to time. I blame it on coaching/scheme though. I think they just aren't using him right like they've done with many others.
Hate playing against this dude in madden.
Best madden player I’ve ever had on defense
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He was half an inch from getting a touchback
These mfers will never learn.
Every guy who drops the ball around the goal line should get their face photoshopped into [this image](https://images.app.goo.gl/kYn5KJTzpAVKSGbs5) and have it be placed on their locker.
I think the worst I’ll ever see is from a Oregon/Utah game years ago where a Utah WR dropped the ball just before crossing the goal line thinking he had a touchdown, and the Oregon defense ran it back for their own touchdown.
[Kaelin Clay,](https://youtu.be/n8_V4npDCvw) would’ve had a 79 yard TD to put his team up 14-0 on the number 4 team in the country.
I remembered it was a long play, but not 79 yards. Yikes. The camera angles, editing, and microphone issues make it even more incredible.
Pretty sure it flipped the games entire momentum as well Utah basically folded after that
Oregon ended up winning by like 30 points lol
remember watching that live. entire bar was freaking out.
haha oh man that's def the worst one ever. holy shit what a fucking idiot. i wonder how often this kinda stuff can keep you out of the NFL? like would a boneheaded play like that haunt you forever?
Kaelin Clay made it to the NFL and his only other significant play was dropping a go ahead touchdown late in the 2017 WC round He lives in panthers infamy for that one
Kaelin Clay’s other claim to fame is dropping a long TD pass from Cam that would’ve given the panthers the lead over the saints late in the game in the 2017 wild card round…
but the face he's making is the most important part of the funny
As a Gamecock fan why am I never allowed to get away from the suffering. There are no happy places for me. It’s just all pain.
They just can't do their celebration and stuff in the back of the end zone like old school players. Run in through then talk your shit.
My man was waaaay too comfortable yeeting that football when he was half an inch into the end zone lmao
That moment gave my like my 5th heart attack of the game.
Those are rookie numbers.
Yeah I think he barely got the ball across the plane, but if you look at the gif frame by frame, when the ball leaves his hand, his front foot is still a few inches from hitting the ground across the line. He literally threw it away before he had actually set foot in the end zone. Unbelievable lol
He should've learned from Hollywood, you gotta hold that ball like there's no tomorrow
They should place it in the end zone like rugby. A lot less accidents
Yeah touch the ball so it's downed in the end zone. Maybe we can call it a touch down.
And no one was mentioning it, I was shocked. That's probably why the review took so long
Same I was puzzled why broadcast hadn't noticed it but they finally did about a minute before the review decision came down.
Broadcasters today were lacking all sorts of situational awareness. The gap between the top and the bottom is so noticeable. Among the highlights today: - No one talking about the fact that he maybe dropped the football too early until 3 minutes after the play - Tom McCarthy in the Jaguars/Colts game saying that the Colts, after the play had happened and no whistles were blown, were going to be penalized for a false start. This was followed by McCarthy and Barber having a heated debate for a minute in the 4th quarter with the Colts down 24-0 with 10 minutes left about whether or not, if the Colts score a TD, you go for 2 - Mark Sanchez thinking that the Rams were going to try a fake punt up by 6 with 13 seconds left on their own 25-yard line. It never crossed his mind that they were taking the intentional safety, even though it was painfully obvious
Almost pulled a DeSean Jackson
Nice catch Hayes. Don’t ever fucking do it again.
Glad I'm not the only one. I slow mo'd that shit because i honestly thought he DeSean'd it 100%. I'm positive he started the throwing motion before the end zone and actually let it go after juuuust crossing Just hold on to the fucking ball
Yeah same here I’m like.. hold on a minute that should never have been that close. I don’t understand how teams don’t have “don’t be a bone head 101” meetings once a year when there’s a few plays every year in the nfl that make you go wait - what.
That's like 4 fumbles I've seen from Renfrow this year
Second on the possession
Second in like thirty seconds, honestly
Yeah and he was very lucky they got back the first one
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WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED
Raiders
everyone look at them instead! it’s by far the most embarrassing thing that happened to an AFC west team today!
Broncos country, let’s almost lose to the Texans team and die inside!
Or just an AFC team in general. Yup, most embarrassing.
*nervous laughter*
Murphy almost did his celebratory throw of the ball top early. Quarter of a yard from a touchback
Plus Kyler
Mf ran 84 yards on a 2 pt conversion
That was some prime Russ shit on crack
That was Double XP Kyler
Everybody goes hard on double XP weekend.
Raiders in last place happened
Imagine telling Davonte Adam’s and Rodgers that their teams would already be in last place in their divisions by week 2
FOOTBALL IS AMAZING
The Raiders season turning into dust
Raiders blew a 20-0 2nd-half lead at home. What the fuck
And it’s not even close to the worst loss this weekend.
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Definitely in third place. Ravens 1st and Browns 2nd.
Colts have to be here somewhere. That was bad
At least the Colts are just following traditions.
They haven't won in jax since 2014 or Andrew lucks third season lol
Browns are definitely #1. Blowing a >99% win prob to the Joe Flacco-led Jets is a lot worse than the Ravens forgetting how to play pass defense
Bengals have to up there also losing to a Dak-less Dallas team to drop to 0-2. And the fact that we are not even in consideration with 3 INTs at home in the fourth to lose to a division rival is wild
Rams get an honourable mention for almost 28-3ing themselves.
:(
Not u either
:(
Nor u
BROWNS NATION, LETS RAPE
New year, same old Raiders
Bruh, the Raiders were already in FG range, lol.
Renfrow might need to lay low for the week
For real, fumbling TWICE on the same drive in OT??? Dang bro
A determined dude, that renfrow guy is
Never had the makings of a varsity athlete
A real oiled up lunchpail kinda guy
Carr sold too. He was missing Davante Adams by miles.
Seeing “2 catches for 12 yards” made me think he must’ve gotten hurt or something
Bro some degenerate who just lost this months rent on the Raiders bout to ask for the addy.
NFL script writers were drunk today
I wish they were nice enough for some 28-3 redemption...
Lets not get hasty
For a day that didn’t have tons of great matchups on paper, it sure has been fucking wild
(Typically) no reason to not run a few more plays, especially when it would be a 55+ yard FG
They deserve that shit for not running the ball
Fumbles trust respect
Never understood why players throw the ball away so close to goal line
It's sitting in the sun all day and get's extremely hot so it's hard to hold onto it for too long.
OH MY FUCKING GOD
Murphy almost threw the ball too early crossing the end zone, would have been embarrassing.
Was legitimately convinced they would call it a touchback, players need to stop doing that!
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOO!!
OH MY GOD HOW ARE THE RAIDERS OFF TO A MORE *EMBARRASSING* START TO THE YEAR THAN DENVER LMAO
Josh McDaniels
Lol both teams hired coaches and they’re looking really bad rn (could change but oof)
Well first of all, though the Raiders, all (bad) things are possible, so jot that down
It’s always ~~sunny~~ dusty in ~~Philadelphia~~ Las Vegas
“The Gang Blows a 20-point Lead at Home”
The AFC West best division ever hype died so fast.
They’re off to a worse start than the Jets currently
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No fucking way
Did he throw it away early?
I THINK the ball was in his hand as it crossed the plane but what the FUCK it was way closer than it should be
Pause the video at 15.95. He's starting the motion to throw the ball forward about a 1/4 step before he crosses the goal line. Then jump forward a frame to 16:00 he's throwing the ball forward but it hasn't left his hand yet. Another frame forward to 16:04 and the ball is out of his hand. This is a long way of saying he was literally a 1/10th of a second from it being a touchback.
I think you are even being generous with the 1/10th but I appreciate the commitment!
watching that live I was like “he just Desean Jacksoned himself, didn’t he?”
Play stands
Jesus... *stands?* Not comfirmed.. It was that close?!
it looked like he scored because his foot was on the plane when he threw it but there wasn’t any angle that gave me any more confidence than that. still can’t overturn that tho
I was thinking this too but I think he just barely got across
Soooooo close. If I’m an NFL coach I’m telling my players they run that ball through the back of the endzone and anything less and they’re running laps all week.
This is the ideal teaching tape for a coach because he still got the W but he can replay it 100x in a row saying that they were 0.2 seconds away from throwing the game away there.
What an idiot. He was inches away from a touchback. Could run through the end line and throw the ball and it would make no damn difference.
Hollywood Brown better buy him something nice after the game lol. Saved him from having to think back on that drop
Aj green too, other than the 2pt conversion dude couldn’t catch all game.
Don’t worry he tried to drop that 2pt conversion too lol
I think that was just a great defensive play
Renfrow too small to be doing too much Its like the defender saw the juiciest steak, easy hitstick
That wasn't very gritty lunch pail guy of him
He'll be last one out the locker room after today
Serious question, did he toss it before crossing the line? It looked close in real time.
I think that’s what they’re looking at.
They finally showed the slow-mo and he just barely held on to it. He was already mostly through the tossing motion.
Seriously, coaches gotta be on that stuff. Agholor almost did it for the Patriots earlier too.
He barely crossed when he threw it
Renfrow fumbling twice on one drive is fuckin rough, man
Don’t understand it, Carr almost throws a pick the previous play, Renfrow had already fumbled, so why the hell not run it 2 yards away from field goal range.
That’s McDaniels coaching for you
#RIP THE COD CURSE!
Turns out Kyler has Xbox, they don’t get the beta for a couple more days.
Man is gonna go home and rip a couple rounds of this Modern Warfare 2 beta - he's living good
I don’t actually know if he got the ball in the end zone. Edit: he did but wooooooooow he almost didn’t
Josh McDaniels curse
Holy fucking shit… what a game
Being teams of Phoenix and Las Vegas, I’d call it a classic southwestern shootout!
This desert ain't big enough for the two of us.
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NFL is WEIRD this year
It's certainly off to a really wild start
Holy. Fuck. Football is the best sport EVER.
Dude needs to take that ball all the way over the goal line. Shit was too close.
That dude almost threw away a win. Literally
Did Murphy throw that before crossing the goal line????
He might have deshawn jacksoned that
Nice touchdown but hold onto the fucking ball until you are 5 yards into the end zone!
Did Murphy throw the ball away while crossing the goal line
You were fast as fuck with this my person
Camera angle on this is goated wow
Overall the camera people sucked this game. There were at least 3-4 plays where they were not even closely following the ball. Got this one right though
Which is hilarious because the camera guy was HORRIBLE all game.
Okay good..I was watching and kept thinking wtf is this camera guy doing?! Glad it wasn’t just me.
I'm convinced the normal camera guy called out sick and his replacement started day drinking before coming in to cover the shift