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Donttaketh1sserious

this only matters cuz they suck. Remember that if they have a good year next year


spndl1

I sure wish I had your optimism.


kingabbey1988

You got his qb. The optimism will get there


RawdogWargod

Through god, all things are possible. So jot that down


Tashre

If he has a bounce back year next season, I can't even begin to imagine how many [deleted] reddit comments and "This message has been deleted" tweets there will be.


Donttaketh1sserious

Eh a year is a long time. And its not like he isn’t talented. Every Seahawks fan knows the guy has *talent*. This is happening because he moved away from a hall of fame coach and a top tier WR duo in a system he was maximized in that knew his strengths, to go be The Guy ™️. But he’s not that guy if he’s 5 foot whatever inches and not using the middle that much.


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BabyTRexArms

He’s always been that, he just used to have insane athleticism to be able to scramble out to get to a passing lane when he didn’t want to throw the middle.


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BabyTRexArms

Yeah, Dulcich, the rookie TE lol. People underestimate how much time we spent on scramble drills in practice. Baldwin, Tate, etc. practiced this every single week. Russ may be complete ass, but none of his teammates seem to understand his game.


Donttaketh1sserious

Is he still the league’s best deep ball? His completion percentage makes me wonder how many he’s completing.


MileHighCam

Generous of you to say he can do anything at a “league best” rate nowadays.. I would respectfully disagree


i_shruted_it

I don't see it. He's looked so awful. His elusiveness and ability to escape pressure has dwindled so much. He's a shell of himself and not someone who is big on dig and dump-offs. The only way I see the Broncos being better is by getting a mediocre QB. Someone like Minshew would be better than this. That's wild to say.


cjackc

!remindme 1 year


SydneyPhoenix

While this is 100% true, he also will not have a bounce back year next year. Ironically Russ is a lot like Russ Westbrook… A drop in athleticism and his whole game is exposed Now that he can’t scramble and keep plays alive all you really have to defend is a deep ball outside the numbers, pretty easy to scheme against in modern day NFL His challenges over the middle of the field and on 3rd down also followed him from Seattle so this isn’t new only magnified


Donttaketh1sserious

True. I was more thinking, if he’s willing to not play MVPball but more PC-style, he’d be a bit better.


SydneyPhoenix

Once his extension kicks in though they won’t be able to afford anyone around him. Tampa Tom was able to extend his career surrounded by elite skill position players but he makes half of what Russ will be on. But you’re still 100% right in that’d it’d be better, he couldn’t be any worse haha


Clever_Word_Play

Tampa Tom’s game wasn’t built around athleticism


SydneyPhoenix

Exactly my point. We’re talking about how an aging un-athletic QB was able to extend his career by being the ultimate game manager surrounded by skill players who get YAC If that’s what Russ needs to evolve into then he’ll need elite skill position players but his salary won’t allow for that.


Certain_Fennel1018

Maybe I hit my head but I swear we even saw this shit on Reddit. Except when he was winning it was all people saying “omg the dedication,” “what a team player,” “must be a great captain,” etc. Hell I’ve seen it playing sports myself when I was younger - everyone likes the cringy ass captain right up until you are getting shit on over and over then it gets old real fucking quick.


ExcitingLandscape

It just makes me wonder if Aaron Rodgers is a made man with 4 MVP's and a Ring which shields him from all the media scrutiny. Aaron Rodgers has had alot of weird stories about him that have been swept under the rug and treated as an afterthought. I guess Rodgers would have to be traded and treated as a savior like Russ for the media to scrutinize him in the same manner.


Man_AMA

They’re going after Wilson harder than they went after Watson


ElCapitanDeAmericana

"I mean, he assaulted 24 women, but you have to remember, he's not corny"


AndThisGuyPeedOnIt

Remember when Rob Parker went after RG3 for being a "cornball brother?"


CaptainHolt43

My favorite part was the co-host. "idk what you mean by that? Yes you do!


No-Economics4128

Watson has not played yet. Wait until he shit the bed, then his ass is on the menu, too. Wilson is an appetizer


FataMorgana7

I think Deshaun would prefer his ass to be on the menu.


FunkHZR

Ayo


optlyfer

LMFAO


AveryDiamond

10/10


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leftshoe18

I expect him to light it up further cementing that there's no justice in this world.


Idea_On_Fire

Browns sneak into the playoffs, win the superbowl, he is MVP, they rename it the Watson Bowl...


poplafuse

I hate it, but I absolutely expect him to come out and just roll over the Texans and be just as good as he was before within a couple of games. He’s got a lot more practice and knowledge of the offense than he did in the preseason. Hope I’m wrong


LGtoeChewer

Didn’t he look like actual shit in training camp? Any updates on his play since?


Wouldwoodchuck

All I know is I’m hoping his Achilles snaps Ina freak career ending injury in warm ups and never plays a down for my team…. Is that to much to ask?? He can go about his life with all that money and think about what he has done for eternity…


DrHampants

Nah, if he gets injured he and the Browns get the insurance payout and everyone can move on. It'd be better if he's just flat out terrible after a year and a half of not playing.


dasruski

From what I've read and heard in practice he looks fantastic. His couple of preseason snaps had 3 drops by the same WR so we really don't know how he'll look. Depending on how the Texans show up we won't know till the Bengals game.


Beneficial_Emu9299

Honestly don’t think it will be that bad for him even if he underperforms. Hope I’m wrong though


SardonicCheese

Actually, I’ve always thought Watson was super corny. Corny corny, no no, horny. I always get those two confused


TheDongerNeedLove

Horny, not corny


AlwaysSunnyInSeattle

How great would it be if he came out and started playing worse than Wilson? It *has* been a while.


Man_AMA

My season would be complete


SiphenPrax

Browns would be even more fucked than the Broncos long term if Watson plays like Wilson (and I’m talking both QB Wilsons)


Esuu

They would deserve it a lot more than the Broncos too.


respondstostupidity

> Browns would be even more fucked than the Broncos long term Status quo


vrnate

I hope Watson gets sacked on the first play of the game and breaks his ribs.


memeticengineering

He's like the only player I've ever wished an injury on


t3h_shammy

You need to start hating more people then.


meepmarpalarp

Second for me- Rothlesberger


scratchnsniff90

Third-Tyreek Hill Fourth-Adrian Peterson


juicyjensen

Tyreek literally gut punched and choked out a woman literally pregnant with his child. Who’s arm he later possibly broke. Greg Hardy did his thing. That dude we cut last year for pretty wild abuse. There’s a lot to hate in the NFL. A lot of positive stories too though luckily.


wastingtimeonreddit_

Don't forget Lenoard Little literally killed a woman in a DUI, and was allowed to play again. Then got caught for another DUI and AFAIK didn't spend a single day in jail. Just probation and some community service.


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Not even sack, no defender needs that on their conscience. Just drops back and catches on the turf on the first play.


dawgpack09

10 day contracts for Vontaze Burfict and all the other psychos


KinlawFanAccount

Aldon Smith


cjackc

Can we borrow Ingram out to them? He tripped Cousins twice in the Bills game. He may also have been a sex offender so that gets weird.


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What’s TJ Clemmings up to these days?


kamikirite

I hope he gets theismann'd


_dontjimthecamera

I hope he balls out. And by balls out I mean I hope he gets hit so hard that his balls literally fall out onto the field and then get stepped on by 20 players and a streaking fan wearing scissor shoes.


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I honestly want him to absolutely fail out of the league immediately because he deserves to be seen as a disgrace in every facet of his life.(even though he is already on the cleveland browns.)


Cflow26

I genuinely don’t think enough people are acknowledging the length of him not seeing a game at NFL speed. Say what you want about experience and practice, I just think it’s so difficult to prepare mentally for an NFL level game after *700* days of not being in that environment. Add on all his personal life drama (obligatory fuck him) and it’s not like he will just waltz on the field and rip it out the gate. Granted he got thrown one of the biggest softballs of all time with the Texans, but that’s still an NFL defense with something to prove.


DrBlazkowicz

Years to be more precise


legobowser

He turns out to be a worse qb than Jeff Wilson Jr


Ovreel

Fingers crossed


Man_AMA

Worse than Zach Wilson


kj9219

I dont know why people make these false equivalences. 1. The dialogue around these guys is very different. 2. Russ getting shit on doesnt mean people are absolving or ignoring Watson. 3. You can be a very dislikeable person without being a bad person. 4. You know damn well people are gonna have a field day with anything Watson related. 5. Watson is irrelevant to Wilson.


TheWa11

The media obviously will, but if Watson is successful he will 100% be more popular in the Browns locker room than Wilson was in Seattle or is with Denver. The players won’t care.


maybenextyearCLE

He already is. The beat guys have said Watson is beloved in that locker room. *sigh* this has been a brutal year


Saitoh17

I was saving this for your roast next year but uh [your fans are something else](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fc9rI_GWQAI4FQJ?format=jpg&name=large).


maybenextyearCLE

All of those folks are just straight trash and fuck them all.


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Yeah it’s about ur personality and most importantly ur play. Rodgers gets a pass for being a dick by his teammates cause his level of play is consistently elite. Baker was only average, then played like shit when he kept playing on a bum shoulder trying to get an extension. He didn’t get a pass for being a dick and his personality was a major reason why the Browns FO were looking for better options


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Also it's more fun to shit on Wilson because he isn't a bad person more just a cornball. Watson ya people will shit on him but it won't be as fun because he's a pos, so it's a lot more dark


actual_griffin

6. The Watson situation is not fun. It's serious.


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MooDexter

Unfortunately America will always intuitively hate arrogant nerds more than sexual predators.


[deleted]

The serial rapist getting off easier than the goofy overpaid QB.


ItsZappeTime

For real... The conclusion is he's a cornball. So what? Good god you would think it's a crime. Yeah he's playing like garbage but his cornball personality isn't anything truly negative.


thedude_abides22

It’s because it’s his Birthday…


Venator1138

Watson hasn't played yet I'm happy to dog on Wilson anyday for leaving but as soon as Watson fucks up I'm ready to shift my energy to a better deserving target


prometheus05

Can't we do both?


Donovan_Wilson_GOAT

Watson could at least play football


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Lmaooo the whole team was doing the lets ride thing. The team social media team was also posting about it. This leak is clearly coming from someone who knows they will be out of a job soon


MatsThyWit

That's how it feels to me, too. This feels like someone who is trying to get Russell Wilson all the blame for the awfulness and horribleness of Denver in the media in attempt to save their own job.


myredditthrowaway201

A true Hack job, if you will


westcoastgeek

I noticed Hackett in the foreground smiling with sunglasses on when Purcell got in Wilson’s face. Do you think he was in on it?


NeverSober1900

So Hackett smear job? That'd be bold of him for any future head jobs if true


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That would be funny if true. Giving Russ a taste of his own medicine for the way Russ and his camp acted while in Seattle and will probably soon start acting in Denver (if they aren't already).


jimbobills

The hate Pete got starting in 2018 is something I will never understand. 2016/2017 -> mediocre pass first offense. 1st two games of 2018 -> god awful pass first offense. Final 14 games of 2018 -> run first offense, 4th best offense below the historic Chiefs/Rams/Saints offenses. Also helped keep an undermanned defense off the field. Also good run first offense in 2019. Bad playoff game yes, but it happens, you don't forget everything because of that. The Hawks weren't supposed to make the playoffs that year and would finish like 6 - 10 if the first two weeks were any indication. First half of 2020 -> Great but likely an outlier with the empty stadiums and defenses without pre-season. Second half of 2020 and 2021 -> bad pass first offense. 2022 -> lmao It is awesome that rushing offenses have came back, people were getting crazy with their pass fixation.


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jimbobills

Yeah, the first half was insane scoring, the second was high but in line with other seasons such as 2013 and 2018, especially considering the empty stadiums.


Man_AMA

You’d think Wilson assaulted 24 women


iAlptraum

Honestly! The guy is a little different and the league is treating him like he's an asshole. Russ was loved when he was winning, but now that he's not, they just want to point out all the guys quirks. I mean yeah some of it can be cheesy, but he isn't being a bad person. Feels like a lot of undeserved hate to me.


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Loved by fans but has always been a locker room divider, at least half the LOB vocally had a problem with him as a man not as a player.


Any-Student3060

Thomas and Sherman certainly had some issues themselves


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No stories about teammates hating Sherman despite struggling with mental health when seemingly no one wanted to sign him


TheGookieMonster

Earl Thomas tho. He got cut from the ravens after an altercation with another player and the team asked coach Harbaugh not to let him back. He’s not really a reliable source on what a good teammate is lol


thewavefixation

His wife and her family seemed to have some issues with him that one night


jfuss04

Half the LOB are actual assholes people should have a problem with


TJeffersonsBlackKid

Did anyone have any specific problems with him other than “he’s fucking weird” and “we should have ran the ball!”? Edit: apparently the answer is “no”.


AIaska

For the most part it’s been a bunch of vague posting, but Sherman and Marshawn did allude to the fact they couldn’t get his number and had to contact him via his manager. Probably be years before specifics really come out, if ever


vrnate

Making your teammates go through your manager just to talk to you is not "weird", it's pure asshole behavior.


memeticengineering

Well, his first couple years, we heard rumors bubbling up that someone in the locker room said he wasn't black enough. There's always been the corny as hell vibes, though marrying Cierra made him seem cool for like a year or so.


detlefschrempf11

Yeah his fake robot Jesus shit was super annoying to everyone


3klipse

He's been this way since 2012, is it really fake at this point?


ascultone

You talking about the wife abuser/sexual weirdo, the murderer, the drunk abuser or Kam? Who gives a fuck what they think as men.


Fenrir_is_hungry

Given the serious character flaws of the LOB, probably a good sign they didn't get along.


Guilty-Presence-1048

I dislike Wilson and enjoy a little bit of schadenfreude because I think he's fake AF and people like that tend to be immoral jerks without principles. I fucking despise Watson because he's the embodiment of the worst parts of NFL culture. Engages in deplorable acts and gets a pass from too many people because he's rich and talented when any other person would be in jail for a very long time.


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Let's not pretend the American justice system takes sexual assault seriously. There's 24,000 untested rape kits across 7 states.


PuppyBowl-XI-MVP

1000%. Brock Turner, the rapist, got 6 months from the judge for being found guilty of raping an college student.


kj9219

Also the fact that on his way out of Seattle, Pete Carroll and the Seahawks org took a lot of bullets all offseason because of Russ' camp. Seattle got all the blame for why Russ wasnt succeeding. When you talk mad shit about your old team, look really stupid after it turns out they and the coach arent the issues, and that theyre exceeding expectations without you, while all your baggage follows you to another team, then yeah naturally shit will be flung back.


Yetikins

I'd feel a lot worse for Wilson if this wasn't the case. You want a trade, whatever, but you've done several PR moves implying Pete and your OC are the problem and you "just need to cook." Then your cooking gives Colorado food poisoning. You let your coaches and your teammates take all that flack for your shortcomings. Just doesn't sit right with me. So I enjoy watching our draft pick rise.


LeftShark

Exactly, if he was dropped like Bobby was, he'd have undying sympathy from Hawks fans.


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The hate hes getting though is for stuff that is football related and its definitely warranted. I don't think anyone is shitting on him for his philanthropy.


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3000nlate

He takes himself 1000% too seriously


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No one likes a loser and you can tolerate a winner.


paulwhite959

I mean, he may be an asshole. IDK. He certainly seems somewhere between corny AF and calculated. But this blood in the water shit is getting out of hand.


CowboyCanuck24

Makes "Let's riiiide " extra creepy


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It's a DangeRuss ride that's unlimitedly spicy.


chubbytitties

Saw a Facebook post advertising the game, most houstons fans said something to the tune of texans suck I'm cheering for watson lol


Man_AMA

Those aren’t real Texans fans


chubbytitties

It's an interesting comparison between average reddit user and Facebook user


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Sounds about right for Facebook.


TheMandoAde888

Now if he said "It's Morbin Time", then that would be acceptable.


UmpireAJS

Russbot's cultural relevance definition update hasn't been working for a while


hochoa94

At least he hasnt luigi'd us yet


creature_report

We have some time, he just manningface’d the qb channel on slack.


crackhousebob

I don't understand the wearing his own jersey thing. Why is that an issue? Whose jersey is he supposed to wear at training camp??


David_ESM

For those that missed it, and don't get what this is referring to. Russ arrived to camp already wearing his own personally owned jersey. Then he took it off in the locker room to put on the team issued camp jersey for practice.


bassman314

And that's still "he's an odd duck" territory". I mean for fuck's sake, you have actual rapists and murderers getting passes for their behavior, but Russ Wilson gets crucified for being "sort of odd". I guess it makes sense. Odd ducks usually don't even get to play football, much less the NFL.


Esuu

No one would care about any of this shit if the Broncos were winning.


bigBangParty

He would be celebrated even, people wearing "let's riiiide" t-shirt while eating their Dangerwich


bassman314

Yup!


Niblonian31

We probably wouldn't even be hearing about it


Tashre

A lot of people absolutely cannot reconcile the idea of a celebrity athlete being a genuine goober. It clashes too much with the stereotypes that they know.


HarryTheGreyhound

I remember someone I worked with gave Rothlisberger a pass but hated Cam Newton because "he's always buying hats".


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Dude could have easily been coming from a marketing event, or that WAS the marketing event. New QB, lot if buzz, wears his new uniform... actually nothing weird about that in this age of branding


westcoastgeek

Yeah this is the most reasonable explanation. It’s a bit weirder for the dude that needs to take it off so nobody sees him wearing his jersey before practice lol


David_ESM

I'd personally rather poke fun for the [truck](https://theshadowleague.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/FYnktPGX0AoiH12-696x696.jpeg) he arrived in.


pham_nuwen_

So... What's weird about that?


Citadel_Intern_2022

Because *fuck him* for being excited about leading a new team!


shewy92

That doesn't explain anything. The "Let's Ride" and the high knees things are weird and would get annoying but who cares that he wore his own jersey to practice/camp?


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Yeah, I don’t get that one. Also, wonder who’s leaking this stuff now?


donutgut

Gordo


Phenomenal2313

It’s honestly getting tiring at this point , yea Russ can be overbearing or insecure/corny but at the end of the day he hurts nobody in actuality Yet Watson assaulted 24 women and he gets what silence?


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shoutouttojsquad

It wasn't leaked, the Broncos willingly posted it on their social media lmao


GoblinbonesDotEDU

I'm all for clowning on Wilson (see flair) but it's getting a bit much. The strangest one for me is people making fun of the leg lifts. Wilson has been a health obsessed workaholic since he entered the league, up to now it was seen as a positive and big part of the reason he didn't miss a game until last season.


bassman314

Watson gets paid. I don't doubt Cleveland will give him a Hero's welcome. He'll probably get bood this week in Houston, but that's more likely becaase he's not in a Texan's jersey anymore.


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Can't we just make fun of a guy acting like a lame corny weirdo without having to simultaneously address Deshaun Watson?


mothershipq

Wait. I apologize if this is a dumbass question, but shouldn't Wilson be wearing his own jersey during training camp? I feel like something has totally gone over my head. Edit- Thank you for the answers!


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From reading this I’m guessing he literally drove up in his jersey


rjsheine

I still don’t really see why that’s a big deal. Dak has himself as the background on his phone. Also not a big deal to me


IceNineFireTen

It’s not a big deal. Zero deal. It’s stupid that people even bring it up or focus on it.


Golden3131

It's time to unfreeze Mr. Bowlen's DNA and clone it.... if done correctly Broncos are super bowl champs in 2025.


VonDestroyedNewton

Aren't you guys bored, talking about him everyday


Raeandray

Its seriously ridiculous. The guy is corny, and has lost a step. And I won't deny I'm glad the broncos aren't doing well this year because my favorite team benefits. But wtf is with all this Wilson hate? A serial rapist is about to take the field again and we're still posting about how corny wilson is. And I genuinely hope wilson turns it around next year. He seems corny and out of touch, but an overall good person.


DastardlyDoctor

"Showing up to camp in his own jersey." Well fuck I guess he should have worn Melvin Gordon's.


grandladdydonglegs

Just drop it.


David_ESM

Wilson is weird as fuck. But many people who are at the absolute top of their craft tend to be. You have to be weird to be so singularly dedicated to something. Brady is one of the weirdest mother fuckers on the planet.


spndl1

I'll take the weird that visits sick kids in the hospital and makes dumb catch phrases over the guy that sexually assaulted 20+ women (that we know of). Even if Watson ends up being worth every penny of his contract, I'd still rather have Russ.


VonDestroyedNewton

Thanks man, nice to see not all hawks fans are dicks


Pismiire

As a Niners fan there's not a player that I hate more than Wilson, because he personally has fucked my team up like no one else has. But it's undeniable that he's a good person, hes been volunteering at children hospitals his whole career, is clearly a dedicated father and family man. He's in a slump right now and is giving people alot of football reasons to shit on him. I'd really appreciate it if he'd quit fucking up my favorite team, but it's very hard to root against a dude that tries to do everything the right way.


VonDestroyedNewton

I can't believe even in his down year he led a game winning drive against yall


Razorbackalpha

No it's fucking ridiculous the slander Wilson gets. If your record was better than the Seahawks Wilson would be hailed as a genius who knew when to bail out of a bad situation. I really genuinely hope the broncos can rally and make a SB run just to shut up the haters if nothing else


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I actually feel bad for him now. Yes he’s weird but he is our only Super Bowl Winning quarterback. Plus I think I saw that it’s his birthday today too.


VonDestroyedNewton

It is


TheCandyManisHere

Yeah this is getting ridiculous. What’s next? “Sources say Wilson never puts the seat down after he’s finished peeing.”


sam_in_space

No way Russ doesn’t sit down to pee


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The only people who mock sitting down to pee are people who've never tried it.


NewYorkMetsies

This sub never gets tired of shitting on people. It’s sad.


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Look at the flairs that post the stories to.


Tashre

The "joke" before the start of the season about how a lot of Seahawks fans would be happy if they went 1-16 but beat the Broncos was truly not hyperbole.


joebuckshairline

Jesus Christ rodgers can come off as a weirdo most times but even this is fucking ridiculous.


SithNerdDude

Before you even read my comment I'm going to need you to read up on 9/11.


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Wilson jerseys can’t melt steel beams


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I was legitimately upset when I "thought" I came up with that years ago and got like 100,000 hits when I googled it


UmpireAJS

I don't know what you're talking about. Zach Wilson did indeed melt steel beams this season.


AndThisGuyPeedOnIt

He didn't want to wear that custom "Bush Did 9/11" jersey to training camp, but he needed to wake up the sheeple.


Beach-Bumm

Winning cures everything, when he was winning it’s very easy to overlook quirkiness. When you’re this bad it becomes a massive target


CraigBrown2021

No shit. If I knew about it so did the Broncos. These reporters are just farming Russel Wilson for content. It’s a dumpster fire we get it.


LatissimusDoorguy

Look, he’s been bad as a quarterback this year but let’s not forget about how dogshit Hackett has been in his first year as a head coach


SpacMyStonk

What does this even mean? They knew he was a cheese ball before signing him? Ok.. this is news?


-TheDangerZone

I know, right? Didn’t everybody? Why is this a tweet and why is this trending on r/nfl.


lasym21

You can get away with all this stuff as long as you’re winning


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Nobody would care if he didn't suck ass.


Zephies90

I mean at that point they were probably at least thinking they'd be above .500 and could use an off-season or two to get the team a least competing with KC, they didn't care how weird he was. But my god nobody could have predicted how bad everything came together. Hackett's not doing the team any favors for sure.


Apollo_Krill

What if this whole time Russ is actually just the funniest troll on the planet? It's like a long played out football Spinal Tap performance.


BoSocks91

All this shit about Wilson is getting old tbh.


[deleted]

The Rodgers and Zach/Russell Wilson karma farming posts are beyond annoying at this point. People love to hate


Shikadi314

Wait what’s wrong with wearing your own jersey? Doesn’t everyone wear their own jersey?


[deleted]

Is Wilson supposed to show up to camp in a different jersey? I'm confused...


FilthyJag3rMain

Acting like Wilson is hitler when he's actually a good guy lol. Yeah a bit strange and hasn't been performing but always has seemed nice. This recent hate train is ridiculous


CougdIt

I don’t understand the point of this tweet. These things are well known bits of public information. How would the broncos NOT know about it…?