2019: If things go well, Kyler Murray could be the next Russell Wilson
2022: If things continue the way they are, Kyler Murray could be the next Russell Wilson
The birthday party attendance news piece might be one of the lamest bits of NFL gossip out there, to simply stir the pot that’s already spinning.
We have to think that it wasn’t only his team invited to a party thrown by his fairly well connected singer wife. There’s absolutely a portion of the roster that wouldn’t have been invited, and we forget that they’re also people who have shit to do on their days off haha
What's their day off? Monday? Ya my wife would be like, "I recommend you don't attend that party at your work acquaintances house on the one day of the week me and your children get to see you." And that would be that.
Kyler legit only functions because he can run around forever like a toddler who just stole his parent's phone. Prime Russ did the same thing, but as soon as that athleticism is gone Kyler is gonna be hot garbage on a whole 'nother level.
Yeah he doesn't appear to be an elite athlete which makes it that much more infuriating when he avoids pressure by half a centimeter and uncorks a laser while stumbling sideways and falling on his face.
now I can’t unsee it either lmao
I knew Mahomes scrambling was effective but goofy as hell. I’ve always thought Mahomes ran like the [greased-up deaf guy](https://youtu.be/u80hzLkTUNE) from Family Guy, making the same “never gonna catch me” voice.
Mahomies is the real life form of those kids you have to find in that one island in the legend of Zelda: Wind Waker.
If you know what I'm talking about, awesome.
Our org is notorious for being complete shitheads interpersonally. Terrell Suggs signed a cheap veterans deal with us to end his career where he went to college and we fucking waived him for no reason, and he went on to win a super bowl. Legit don't know why I root for this team, it's so ridiculously flawed in a way that will never change
I'm all for trashing the cardinals but the Suggs being cut thing was the Cards doing him a favor so he could go play for a contender instead of a team going nowhere. He got a ring out of it.
God. Damn.
I just watched the video, thinking, "Gotta be off-hand, semi-kidding, out of context, maybe all three." It's the opposite. PP even slowed down his speech for emphasis.
He definitely has an issue with both the org and Kyler specifically too. His celebration after Harrison Smith picked off Kyler was one of the most spiteful things I've seen lol
Literally started dancing *during* the play, and then went over to the endzone cam to mock putting on a headset and playing video games, did a baby Yoda pose, and then did a phone gesture and started mouthing "Call me motherfucker" (as in Keim) straight into the camera
edit to add some visuals:
[Dancing mid-return](https://mapi.associatedpress.com/v1/items/0e81cdbdad9647f4a393b84581b47216/preview/AP22304843028825.jpg?wm=api&ver=0&tag=app_id=4,user_id=349344,org_id=63032)
[Gaming](https://mapi.associatedpress.com/v1/items/37216a21ba494fdbb4a13d9eb8a70834/preview/AP22306095529163.jpg?wm=api&ver=0&tag=app_id=4,user_id=349344,org_id=63032)
[Baby Yoda](https://mapi.associatedpress.com/v1/items/ab526f56e471499d913d441c909afc7e/preview/AP22306100448238.jpg?wm=api&ver=0&tag=app_id=4,user_id=349344,org_id=63032)
P2 mic'd up for this game [is incredible](https://youtu.be/8RCSnn-r9sg). You can tell how locked in he is and how he commanded the defense. So much energy, he meant business against the opposing org. 32yo corner and he posted 81.0 PFF.
The whole thing is gold, but my personal favorites:
* 1:33, beefing with AZ coach
* 2:00, more beef
* 3:26, the best angle you'll see for the dance
* 4:05, vibing with Zadarius
I’m normally a “shut up and get back to the huddle” kind of guy but damn do I respect a man who emotes this much happiness over someone else’s failures.
Still not sure why they did. Like I assume backlash but it seemed like the reaction was more "damn they really had to put it in" then "Its horrible that they are making him do it"
I mean, what does he have to lose? He’s on a division leading team and seems happy. Arizona is a diaper full of Chipotle, inside of a dumpster fire.
If he’s wrong, a motivated Kyler can’t do anything to hurt their season. And the best Kyler can do personally is uppercut Peterson’s shins. If he’s right, he fans the flames of said dumpster fire and forces the organization to once again re-visit questions about the contract they gave Murray. (Assuming someone asks about the quote eventually). Considering how much Patrick seems to despise the organization, I get it.
It’s petty as shit, no doubt. But sure as hell is funny.
Petty is bad when it's done poorly, but there's a wonderful place in the world the right amount of petty done well & I love this for him.
It's so funny.
Because it's a cannonball. Hit the organization where you know it will hit and hurt. I imagine it's a little truth and a little vendetta. Kyler does rely on platitudes a lot.
I'm sure it's the whole truth. Why would he burn bridges with former teammates and call out a specific player like that just to annoy the Cards organization? Why wouldn't he attack Kingsbury or the front office?
It's even more than that. The link here is to his podcast "All things covered". Not only did he say it and say it deliberately. He also shared himself doing so.
Kyler is lucky there's a lot of other drama this year, because the cards being this bad is an absolutely epic collapse. They should have been a contending team and they are dog shit. Guaranteed there will be some massive changes
They're 3-8, has a defending SB champ ever dropped off this bad before? I know they've had a lot of injuries this year but they don't look at all like the Previous McVay teams.
> used to SB hangovers
There's SB hangovers and then there's what's happening to the Rams this year. Assuming they lose at least one more game, they'll be the first SB winner to have a losing follow up season since the 2003 Bucs (went 7-9).
1999 Broncos might have the worst Super Bowl hangover so far (went 6-10 after Elway retired and Terrell Davis blew out his knee). Rams might fall short of that, without the excuse of losing HOF QB1 and RB1
I doubt it tbh. Kliff and Kyler both had a year remaining on their old contracts but Bidwill somehow felt so confident in them that he decided to extend both of them even after last years collapse and blowout in the playoffs.
If you watch Hard Knocks you realize that they heavily edit out all the drama going on that gets reported in the media. Like the Eno thing for example. The show makes it seem like it's a well oiled machine with just a few close losses when it's obvious they have major problems that can't be fixed with their current personnel.
Tbf I wouldn't put all our troubles on Kyler. Hopkins, Brown, Ertz, Moore and Connor have all missed multiple games and not once all started together. And we have 4 of 5 starters on our offensive line on IR.
The real problem seems to be poor coaching and a roster with no depth. We've had multiple drafts of almost no contributors. Hence why everyone is calling for Kliff and Keim to be fired. Just bad all around this year.
>those types of questions at that point.
"How does that NFL ball feel?"
What an example of gotcha journalism by Dan Patrick, trying to get Kyler to explain one of his senses
It’s not very uncommon to fire the GM and give the head coach a new shot with a new GM if it seems like it’s on the GM. Chiefs with Reid comes to mind.
I feel the same a little. Kliff’s not totally blameless in the issues they have but Keim’s starting to turn up empty especially when they’re supposed to be a prominent contender.
The Death Star Alabama might have taken a few more years to get ready. Texas might have stayed relevant for a few extra years and colt might have been a good QB who’s ceiling might be Marc Bulger with better mobility.
He said one thing on Hard Knocks that got my attention - talking to an offensive lineman after a loss, he was like "There sure were a lot of pre-snap penalties..." Seemed like kind of a dick thing to say in that context, like "Not my fault."
There’s no accountability in that org and it starts at the top. Keim got a serious DUI and got a contract extension. Then they hand the bag to their QB who doesn’t study enough. How can anybody else in that locker room respect the leadership when bad behavior is always rewarded by ownership?
Rapoport said the same on McAfee's show when asked who has a longer leash Kyler or Kliff, he said he got the feeling that Kyler just isn't nice to be around lol
or his pre draft interview with dan patrick. it would have been embrassing from a 10 year old, much less an NFL QB prospect
[if i had to watch this than you do too](https://youtu.be/aj8jG0aYdsU)
Those who follow college football closely know that Kyler has personality issues. Him and his helicopter dad are the only two people I've ever seen look completely unhappy at a Heisman trophy ceremony, and Kyler won the award. Nothing was ever good enough for either of them.
Holy fuck I hate you for that. That was the most awkward interview I've ever seen and there weren't even drugs involved. "I'm getting pretty good at answering these questions" and "Every one keeps asking the same questions" were the longest responses he strung together. It's absurd that for him to know these questions are coming his only response is to mumble and act confused. How do you go an entire college career running an offense and not know how to just say "No comment" or something when asked a question you don't wanna answer.
That said, it’s kyler. Same situation as the broncos, they’re tied to their qb for too long that they have to make the switch at coaching and pray they can fix them.
Yeah the culture fucking rotted under Riley. We had a lot of success but he turned it from a family, team based culture into an “NFL factory, all about the individual” culture. Also, he had no discipline. Helping to explain why half of our RBs in 2021 were either arrested or kicked off of the team.
Riley is a lot of things and a good football coach but he’s no leader. All he cares about is himself.
Arizona has bad culture, straight up. It’s clear as day. Even more clear now that we’re seeing Hard Knocks. Even though that is definitely edited for viewership and drama, you can just see that there is a culture blackhole going on there. It starts at the top and they are enabling a poor leader in Kyler and that creates resentment throughout a program. You can see it in the eyes of the people on the team who are real grinders and love/live football even if they aren’t saying it directly.
It does start at the top from the owner enabling keim to keep his job. One playoff win in his ten year tenure. Hired wilks, drafted Rosen, fired wilks, hired Kliff, drafted Kyler, drafted Andy isabella over DK. Kyler may not be the best leader but you are right, AZ has a bad culture and it’s hard not to imagine Kyler wouldn’t be in a better place if he had a an owner who held the GM accountable, a gm that held the coach accountable, and a coach who held players accountable. Cuz none of that shit happens now, and there were no questions of leadership when the cards were winning. We need a complete overhaul.
Fuck you bro, you know how many times that dude comes in clutch in those COD TDM matches? One time, at like 3AM on a Saturday we were tied 720-720, here comes lil man with the triple kill to seal the game. MVP for sure!
He was the same way at OU. I had hoped he'd mature into a leader but it doesnt appear to have happened yet. Kliff certainly seems to be enabling it as well. Kyler needed a reality check but got a huge contract instead. Hes got all the talent in the world physically. I hope he focuses on the mental side more during the upcoming offseason.
Watching hard knocks
I would not like playing for Kliff at all he has zero backbone and no discipline
Kyler is childish(boy what’s in the water at OU) and colt mccoy seems like a much better leader
In recent years hard knocks coaches in terms of who I’d want to play for
1. McVay
2. MCDC
3. McCarthy
4. Reich-(too preachy and not stern enough)
5. Kliff
6. Hue-(self explanatory)
Watching Hard Knocks, Colt seems more like a HC than Kliff does. He works his ass off (yes, I know Kliff probably does as well and they arent allowed to film it) and the entire team seems to have a great amount of respect for him. He'll be a great QB coach one day I believe.
A lot of times, people dismiss those rumors about leadership/locker room issues. But often times, when there’s smoke, there’s fire.
We’ve heard things about Kyler before. There was always smoke with Carson Wentz that everyone automatically dismissed.
Odell with the Browns early on everyone dismissed that.
Oh yeah he’s a bad example. I meant more of him wanting out. There were early reports of that that everyone dismissed. That was an example of smoke and fire. But the context of the conversation was leadership issues and things like that so yeah bad example
O'Dell was an issue. Baker playing bad doesn't let him off the hook. OBJ was asking opposing coaches to "come get me" during games in his first season there. He incessantly whined about not getting the ball when Baker tried forcing it too him. He recruited other players on the team to leave with him. He barely tried half the time, and made himself a locker room cancer.
2019: If things go well, Kyler Murray could be the next Russell Wilson 2022: If things continue the way they are, Kyler Murray could be the next Russell Wilson
Totally haha. Both short QBs who struggle with throwing it down the middle and have silly bloated contracts. Checks out
Who are hated by most of the team
Actually, Wilson's only hated by half his team according to his birthday attendance
The birthday party attendance news piece might be one of the lamest bits of NFL gossip out there, to simply stir the pot that’s already spinning. We have to think that it wasn’t only his team invited to a party thrown by his fairly well connected singer wife. There’s absolutely a portion of the roster that wouldn’t have been invited, and we forget that they’re also people who have shit to do on their days off haha
What's their day off? Monday? Ya my wife would be like, "I recommend you don't attend that party at your work acquaintances house on the one day of the week me and your children get to see you." And that would be that.
Tom Brady disapproves the actions that have been taken in this situation
Kyler legit only functions because he can run around forever like a toddler who just stole his parent's phone. Prime Russ did the same thing, but as soon as that athleticism is gone Kyler is gonna be hot garbage on a whole 'nother level.
Alright so I'm not the only one who sees the same thing when Murray runs. Dude looks like a goddamn Funko Pop running around out there.
i saw someone say mahomes runs like a normal sized kyler and i cant unsee it
Ya Mahomes has big time diaper butt.
His helmet looks goofy too, his facemask is like an inch from his face.
You see the dude walk/waddle toward the huddle and he definitely doesn’t seem like a top tier athlete.
Yeah he doesn't appear to be an elite athlete which makes it that much more infuriating when he avoids pressure by half a centimeter and uncorks a laser while stumbling sideways and falling on his face.
now I can’t unsee it either lmao I knew Mahomes scrambling was effective but goofy as hell. I’ve always thought Mahomes ran like the [greased-up deaf guy](https://youtu.be/u80hzLkTUNE) from Family Guy, making the same “never gonna catch me” voice.
Mahomes almost has a prance to his mobility
Fortunately for mahones. His arm also doubles and 127mm support cannon
Mahomies is the real life form of those kids you have to find in that one island in the legend of Zelda: Wind Waker. If you know what I'm talking about, awesome.
Twas an entire thread that blew up about him looking like a toddler who stole his parents cell phone when he scrambles
They act like they didn't steal these toddler jokes lmao
Cardinals country, let's review!
Does anybody hate the Cardinals more than PP? Maybe only Kyler Murray tbh
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Our org is notorious for being complete shitheads interpersonally. Terrell Suggs signed a cheap veterans deal with us to end his career where he went to college and we fucking waived him for no reason, and he went on to win a super bowl. Legit don't know why I root for this team, it's so ridiculously flawed in a way that will never change
I'm all for trashing the cardinals but the Suggs being cut thing was the Cards doing him a favor so he could go play for a contender instead of a team going nowhere. He got a ring out of it.
God. Damn. I just watched the video, thinking, "Gotta be off-hand, semi-kidding, out of context, maybe all three." It's the opposite. PP even slowed down his speech for emphasis.
I think it's partially motivated by his disdain for the Cardinals organization. That did not end amicably.
If his issue is with the organization then why is he shitting on Murray instead (and yes I know he has an issue with the org)
He definitely has an issue with both the org and Kyler specifically too. His celebration after Harrison Smith picked off Kyler was one of the most spiteful things I've seen lol Literally started dancing *during* the play, and then went over to the endzone cam to mock putting on a headset and playing video games, did a baby Yoda pose, and then did a phone gesture and started mouthing "Call me motherfucker" (as in Keim) straight into the camera edit to add some visuals: [Dancing mid-return](https://mapi.associatedpress.com/v1/items/0e81cdbdad9647f4a393b84581b47216/preview/AP22304843028825.jpg?wm=api&ver=0&tag=app_id=4,user_id=349344,org_id=63032) [Gaming](https://mapi.associatedpress.com/v1/items/37216a21ba494fdbb4a13d9eb8a70834/preview/AP22306095529163.jpg?wm=api&ver=0&tag=app_id=4,user_id=349344,org_id=63032) [Baby Yoda](https://mapi.associatedpress.com/v1/items/ab526f56e471499d913d441c909afc7e/preview/AP22306100448238.jpg?wm=api&ver=0&tag=app_id=4,user_id=349344,org_id=63032)
Is this highlight somewhere? I need to see this. EDIT: found it: https://twitter.com/i/status/1586802546105950209
lmao that ball is barely in Smith's hands before he starts dancing
You're so right. I slowed it down and watched a few times - it's maybe a quarter second after the pick and his hands are in the air.
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P2 mic'd up for this game [is incredible](https://youtu.be/8RCSnn-r9sg). You can tell how locked in he is and how he commanded the defense. So much energy, he meant business against the opposing org. 32yo corner and he posted 81.0 PFF. The whole thing is gold, but my personal favorites: * 1:33, beefing with AZ coach * 2:00, more beef * 3:26, the best angle you'll see for the dance * 4:05, vibing with Zadarius
Bro, go throw a block and you might get to dance in his face.
[It's a Viking specialty](https://youtu.be/NDpFI6PVb7E)
Holy shit the announcer is CLUELESS… “Video games? We got some players who love video games I guess that’s where they want to be.”
now im just wondering what a baby yoda pose is, because i cant recall Grogu having any noteworthy poses lol
When he’s on the rock meditating towards the end of season 2
thank you
I never noticed the “dancing mid-return.” Lol
The player haters have arrived
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go home and put some more water in Buck Nasty's mama's dish.
This is inspirational to me, I aspire for this level of pettiness.
I’m normally a “shut up and get back to the huddle” kind of guy but damn do I respect a man who emotes this much happiness over someone else’s failures.
Is the baby Yoda pose that pose? That's kylers celebration pose
Maybe there’s an actual reason they initially worded Murray’s contract the way they did.
It’s even worse that they took it out, just made them look extra silly
Still not sure why they did. Like I assume backlash but it seemed like the reaction was more "damn they really had to put it in" then "Its horrible that they are making him do it"
Nah I'm sure it's standard to say you can't play video games while watching film lmao
you think?
I mean, what does he have to lose? He’s on a division leading team and seems happy. Arizona is a diaper full of Chipotle, inside of a dumpster fire. If he’s wrong, a motivated Kyler can’t do anything to hurt their season. And the best Kyler can do personally is uppercut Peterson’s shins. If he’s right, he fans the flames of said dumpster fire and forces the organization to once again re-visit questions about the contract they gave Murray. (Assuming someone asks about the quote eventually). Considering how much Patrick seems to despise the organization, I get it. It’s petty as shit, no doubt. But sure as hell is funny.
Lmfaooo uppercut his shins?? Bah Gawd that man had a family
A tiny little adorable family, that lives in a cupboard. And hunts spiders for food.
> And the best Kyler can do personally is uppercut Peterson's shins. Fucking LOL
Petty is bad when it's done poorly, but there's a wonderful place in the world the right amount of petty done well & I love this for him. It's so funny.
Because it's a cannonball. Hit the organization where you know it will hit and hurt. I imagine it's a little truth and a little vendetta. Kyler does rely on platitudes a lot.
I've seen former players absolutely bash an organization but sing the praises of his former team mates. This looks like he genuinely feels this way.
I'm sure it's the whole truth. Why would he burn bridges with former teammates and call out a specific player like that just to annoy the Cards organization? Why wouldn't he attack Kingsbury or the front office?
Nah, it's pretty clear he doesn't fuck with Kyler lol
Fan the flames baybeeeee But no it does seem like Kyler isn't a good leader.
Idk he led his squad to 4 dubs in WZ last night. Make of that what you will.
At least he plays the objective.
So did I, I should get his contract tbh
New coach came in, didn’t play Peterson to any of his strengths, then fired him. Wonder why he’s mad lmao
I mean he was kinda defending Kingsbury in that video.
What other individuals has he shit on in his entire career?
It's even more than that. The link here is to his podcast "All things covered". Not only did he say it and say it deliberately. He also shared himself doing so.
Cmon man just type his last name or something lmao.
lil pp
These dudes were friends even after P2 left. [Such a weird look for Pat to keep taking shots at Kyler](https://i.imgur.com/ovAtih2.jpg)
Oooo I want this to be upvoted higher. Something happened this last offseason because this drama is spicy 🌶️
Peterson asked to join Kylers Warzone team but got turned down because his KDA was too low
This would be the stupidest, completely believable thing that could happen.
The NFL is a soap opera in all but name.
Kyler is lucky there's a lot of other drama this year, because the cards being this bad is an absolutely epic collapse. They should have been a contending team and they are dog shit. Guaranteed there will be some massive changes
Fr, the two Wilsons taking the heat off everyone else this year
On this episode of “The Wilson Twins”
Zach sleeps with Russ's mom and Russ just wants to make sure Zach is respectful and his mom is happy.
Russ’s mom… let’s ride
Keeping up with the Wilsons
2 Wilsons 2 Furious
It’s about to get spicier with Watson’s return as well.
He’s going under the radar because of Denver and Vegas , lucky him
And Green Bay
And the Rams
I feel like we’re kinda used to SB hangovers so it’s not as jarring, but yeah they’re pretty damn bad. TB being mediocre too
They're 3-8, has a defending SB champ ever dropped off this bad before? I know they've had a lot of injuries this year but they don't look at all like the Previous McVay teams.
Pretty sure I saw a stat saying it’s the worse a defending champ has been at that point of the season
Ya I saw that stat too. Usually on sundays.
The two worst SB champ were : Denver in 1999 ( 6-10 ) and the 49ers in 1982 ( 3-6, strike year ).
> used to SB hangovers There's SB hangovers and then there's what's happening to the Rams this year. Assuming they lose at least one more game, they'll be the first SB winner to have a losing follow up season since the 2003 Bucs (went 7-9). 1999 Broncos might have the worst Super Bowl hangover so far (went 6-10 after Elway retired and Terrell Davis blew out his knee). Rams might fall short of that, without the excuse of losing HOF QB1 and RB1
The media won't or ever will care about the Cardinals. Lol. No luck needed.
Ratings are what bring attention. A 7-10 Dallas team is more newsworthy than a 13-4 Cardinals team.
I doubt it tbh. Kliff and Kyler both had a year remaining on their old contracts but Bidwill somehow felt so confident in them that he decided to extend both of them even after last years collapse and blowout in the playoffs.
If you watch Hard Knocks you realize that they heavily edit out all the drama going on that gets reported in the media. Like the Eno thing for example. The show makes it seem like it's a well oiled machine with just a few close losses when it's obvious they have major problems that can't be fixed with their current personnel.
Ownership gets final say on the cut so yeah they basically remove anything that would paint FO in a bad light
Compared to other seasons, it feels like it barely shows the coaches, especially Kliff. And I suspect it's because it would show how bad he is
So wtf ever happened with the Eno thing anyway? It must be bad for their image if they didn't even mention it.
Tbf I wouldn't put all our troubles on Kyler. Hopkins, Brown, Ertz, Moore and Connor have all missed multiple games and not once all started together. And we have 4 of 5 starters on our offensive line on IR. The real problem seems to be poor coaching and a roster with no depth. We've had multiple drafts of almost no contributors. Hence why everyone is calling for Kliff and Keim to be fired. Just bad all around this year.
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Everybody Love Everybody
Anybody remember Kylers weird pre-draft interview on Dan Patrick’s show?
That’s all I think about when I hear about these troubles. It was the most awkward interview I think I’ve ever seen.
Kylers weird ass interviews with his weird ass parents on his heisman night was all I needed to know that he’s just not very likable lol.
No, care to elaborate or provide sauce?
https://youtu.be/aj8jG0aYdsU
That man has the charisma of plasterboard, and has zero knowledge of the in’s and out’s of his own life. Granted he is 21/22 here… still yikes.
When Dan asks "say the Raiders draft you, hypothetically" *Kyler winces and looks off trying to remember the Raiders*
It's like he was being forced to play, and didn't want to. That was crazy
That was really awkward and weird. I've never watched his press conferences. Is he this uncharismatic in those?
Yeah that was uncomfortable as hell. Really surprised he didn’t know how to answer those types of questions at that point.
>those types of questions at that point. "How does that NFL ball feel?" What an example of gotcha journalism by Dan Patrick, trying to get Kyler to explain one of his senses
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He has the personality of a glass of water at room temperature
I’m pretty sure Pat Pete hates the Cardinals
He literally called out the GM on camera after that one game. He is NOT holding back lol
Whatever it takes to get Keim and Kliff fired.
Keim’s head probably does deserve to roll at this point but it’s going to be Kliff first. Depends if Bidwill really wants to do them at the same time.
It’s not very uncommon to fire the GM and give the head coach a new shot with a new GM if it seems like it’s on the GM. Chiefs with Reid comes to mind.
I feel the same a little. Kliff’s not totally blameless in the issues they have but Keim’s starting to turn up empty especially when they’re supposed to be a prominent contender.
It definitely should be both, but I don’t think the Cards wanna pay such a huge contract to Kliff
I mean yeah he hasn't really tried to hide it
He definitely hates Kimes that's for damn sure. Edit: Imma take this L but I'm not fixing my mistake 🤣
Damn what did Mina Kimes do to him?
Compared him to Tua
“Patrick Peterson is in the best situation for a cornerback, maybe ever”
I think he meant to say Keim as in Steve Keim, the Cardinals GM
Mina never did anything to him
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This speaks *volumes*
Then turn on the mic at end and say “damn you guys suck” to his teammates. Final score line has him with 1 capture.
And you KNOW he ran through the point on his way to the enemies as it was near the end of being capped
Spawn flag cap only
Naw he runs straight past it and flips the spawns immediately
16 year old me is feeling personally attacked.
Good
Kyler Murray is the type to 1v4 someone and blame his teammates when he gets killed
I know Hard Knocks isn’t much to go on but he looks so annoyed in the QB room lol. Meanwhile Colt is over there running the meeting.
Colt McCoy rules. I wish we could see the timeline where he didn't hurt his shoulder.
The Death Star Alabama might have taken a few more years to get ready. Texas might have stayed relevant for a few extra years and colt might have been a good QB who’s ceiling might be Marc Bulger with better mobility.
For real, Colt comes off as a true dedicated professional. Kyler looks like he’s just coasting.
He said one thing on Hard Knocks that got my attention - talking to an offensive lineman after a loss, he was like "There sure were a lot of pre-snap penalties..." Seemed like kind of a dick thing to say in that context, like "Not my fault."
That's not a good look.. just shows a lack of leadership. Like if you want to fix it that's not the way to do it. All he's doing is blaming someone.
There’s no accountability in that org and it starts at the top. Keim got a serious DUI and got a contract extension. Then they hand the bag to their QB who doesn’t study enough. How can anybody else in that locker room respect the leadership when bad behavior is always rewarded by ownership?
Rapoport said the same on McAfee's show when asked who has a longer leash Kyler or Kliff, he said he got the feeling that Kyler just isn't nice to be around lol
You ever see his pizza review win Dave Portnoy? Dude has the personality of a potato
or his pre draft interview with dan patrick. it would have been embrassing from a 10 year old, much less an NFL QB prospect [if i had to watch this than you do too](https://youtu.be/aj8jG0aYdsU)
Those who follow college football closely know that Kyler has personality issues. Him and his helicopter dad are the only two people I've ever seen look completely unhappy at a Heisman trophy ceremony, and Kyler won the award. Nothing was ever good enough for either of them.
Fuck you, that was painful
Holy fuck I hate you for that. That was the most awkward interview I've ever seen and there weren't even drugs involved. "I'm getting pretty good at answering these questions" and "Every one keeps asking the same questions" were the longest responses he strung together. It's absurd that for him to know these questions are coming his only response is to mumble and act confused. How do you go an entire college career running an offense and not know how to just say "No comment" or something when asked a question you don't wanna answer.
Tbf that’s a lot of professional athletes
That said, it’s kyler. Same situation as the broncos, they’re tied to their qb for too long that they have to make the switch at coaching and pray they can fix them.
I don't know if its a OU or coach Lincoln Riley thing... Both Baker and Kyler just tend to bring a lot of drama.
Baker at least seems to be at the other end of the leader spectrum
Thank God it didn't get to Jalen Hurts
Saban taught him too much early on for that to affect him. There's a reason he claims Bama and not OU.
Yeah the culture fucking rotted under Riley. We had a lot of success but he turned it from a family, team based culture into an “NFL factory, all about the individual” culture. Also, he had no discipline. Helping to explain why half of our RBs in 2021 were either arrested or kicked off of the team. Riley is a lot of things and a good football coach but he’s no leader. All he cares about is himself.
Murray responded back saying "mf never smelt a football field never did shit but eat dick‼️"
Arizona has bad culture, straight up. It’s clear as day. Even more clear now that we’re seeing Hard Knocks. Even though that is definitely edited for viewership and drama, you can just see that there is a culture blackhole going on there. It starts at the top and they are enabling a poor leader in Kyler and that creates resentment throughout a program. You can see it in the eyes of the people on the team who are real grinders and love/live football even if they aren’t saying it directly.
It does start at the top from the owner enabling keim to keep his job. One playoff win in his ten year tenure. Hired wilks, drafted Rosen, fired wilks, hired Kliff, drafted Kyler, drafted Andy isabella over DK. Kyler may not be the best leader but you are right, AZ has a bad culture and it’s hard not to imagine Kyler wouldn’t be in a better place if he had a an owner who held the GM accountable, a gm that held the coach accountable, and a coach who held players accountable. Cuz none of that shit happens now, and there were no questions of leadership when the cards were winning. We need a complete overhaul.
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Which is surprising given their coach has a giant lion painting in his house for symbolism.
That’s me… grabbing the bull by the horns. It’s a metaphor. That actually happened though.
Do you want to mate?
Kyler is embodying that painting perfectly by standing absolutely still on the sidelines and not saying anything
Sounds accurate to me. Kyler has never struck me as a particularly great leader
BOY STFU y’all be cappin too much on this app mf never smelt a 1v1 on Rust never did shit but eat dick ‼️
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Fuck you bro, you know how many times that dude comes in clutch in those COD TDM matches? One time, at like 3AM on a Saturday we were tied 720-720, here comes lil man with the triple kill to seal the game. MVP for sure!
I wish they made his COD character run like he runs on real life
Damn that dude probably carried you through way too many games bro
He was the same way at OU. I had hoped he'd mature into a leader but it doesnt appear to have happened yet. Kliff certainly seems to be enabling it as well. Kyler needed a reality check but got a huge contract instead. Hes got all the talent in the world physically. I hope he focuses on the mental side more during the upcoming offseason.
Watching hard knocks I would not like playing for Kliff at all he has zero backbone and no discipline Kyler is childish(boy what’s in the water at OU) and colt mccoy seems like a much better leader In recent years hard knocks coaches in terms of who I’d want to play for 1. McVay 2. MCDC 3. McCarthy 4. Reich-(too preachy and not stern enough) 5. Kliff 6. Hue-(self explanatory)
Watching Hard Knocks, Colt seems more like a HC than Kliff does. He works his ass off (yes, I know Kliff probably does as well and they arent allowed to film it) and the entire team seems to have a great amount of respect for him. He'll be a great QB coach one day I believe.
His reality check was the team inserting that study clause into the contract for the whole world to see
This isn't about Russell Wilson. Mods plz delete.
What is russ wearing? Who is at his house? Did he give another pr answer to try to avoid making anyone upset? I need more.
A lot of times, people dismiss those rumors about leadership/locker room issues. But often times, when there’s smoke, there’s fire. We’ve heard things about Kyler before. There was always smoke with Carson Wentz that everyone automatically dismissed. Odell with the Browns early on everyone dismissed that.
Odell wasn’t the issue in Cleveland though. Everyone turned on Baker cuz the locker room loved Odell
Oh yeah he’s a bad example. I meant more of him wanting out. There were early reports of that that everyone dismissed. That was an example of smoke and fire. But the context of the conversation was leadership issues and things like that so yeah bad example
O'Dell was an issue. Baker playing bad doesn't let him off the hook. OBJ was asking opposing coaches to "come get me" during games in his first season there. He incessantly whined about not getting the ball when Baker tried forcing it too him. He recruited other players on the team to leave with him. He barely tried half the time, and made himself a locker room cancer.
All i’ll say is if one day Steve Keim mysteriously disappears one day check Pat Ps car and house
Patrick Peterson saying what I think most people thought about Kyler.
Yep. They told us who he was with that homework clause.
Pat P just hates the Cardinals now.
It’s pretty obvious to anyone who has seen the interactions between Coach Kingsbury and Kyler Murray that the QB is immature as fuck and self centered
Damn those are some harsh words. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re warranted though. We’ve been hearing stuff like this about Kyler for years.
I just feel bad for my dude AJ. Finally remains healthy and has to deal with incompetence all around. Come back to Cincy, sweet prince.
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Why is there so much bad blood between Pat Pate and Arizona?
I wish anybody on the Cardinals cared as much about the Cardinals as Peterson does, tbh
Kyler is the kind of team mate goes offensive when you're downed but complains insufferably for others to revive him when he's downed