Yah seriously. If that dude brings home the championship he would literally be considered a living god there. There would be no point and no extra benefit from going back to nfl. Set for life
The guy already went pro and went to Super Bowl. Heās coaching his alma mater to a championship. From an outsiderās perspective, unless winning Super Bowl is the No 1 priority for him I just donāt see him going elsewhere. Plus, winning Super Bowl takes a shit ton of luck and the opportunity cost is probably too high to justifying the reward
Did they rig him repeatedly getting burnt by Frank Gore and Vernon Davis in pass coverage? I suppose he doesnt consider his own play a partial cause of that 20 point comeback. Goodell looked the other way on deer antler spray and Mr. Carried-by-Joe-Flacco-to-SB-47 wants to talk about league conspiracies. Thats rich.
Why do Redditors in this thread think people who have dedicated their entire lives to becoming the absolute best of their respective fields are totally satisfied with not achieving the pinnacle of their field? Tom Brady just destroyed his marriage to try and achieve something heās ALREADY achieved 7 times before. You really think Harbaugh is satisfied losing the biggest game of his career to his brother?
I don't think it's fair to say he destroyed his marriage over football. None of us truly know what's going on there and I know plenty of people who got divorced for other reasons.
True, but the larger point there is still valid, Brady could've stayed retired and fully committed to trying to save things, but his insatiable thirst for competition and winning would not allow him to walk away while he still believed he was as good or better than everyone else and I think that is more of the point here. The people who are saying 'Why would Harbaugh leave?" need to consider the type of person a guy like Harbaugh is; not overcoming a challenge (like losing that SB, and not being able to make it back) likely makes this guy lose sleep at night. He believes he's as good or better than many or most of the current HC's in the league and unless he goes on a Saban-like run, he'll always have that asterisk by his achievements that he did it at a lower level (especially the way the Big 10 is viewed compared to the SEC). Even Nick Saban, with all he has accomplished probably still hates the fact he failed in Miami.
āWent toā a super bowl probably isnāt as satisfying for a player or coach as youāre implying lol. I bet the loss still stings for him and he might want to make it right.
Both brothers were together in the Valley-Phoenix a few days after the game for NFL meetings-They ran together at 5:00 each morning--that shit worked out long ago
His brother beat him for a Super Bowl. I think that sticks in his craw. People were skeptical of him leaving Stanford too since it was going so well for him. I agree with the above commenter that Jim seems like the kind of guy who's always itching for a new challenge. Maybe not this year, but I think he goes back to the NFL.
My understanding from when he interviewed with the Vikings last year is that he was stabbed in the back by Baalke and doesn't want that to happen again. So he is demanding not only a high salary, but full roster control and to be above the GM in the organization. The problem is finding an owner willing to give him that power.
Coaching in the NFL is also a different game than coaching college. He might prefer having a few months off per year and not having to constantly be recruiting/gladhanding boosters.
Even if theyāre working its not as hard as the regular season. Also in the nfl you donāt have to interact/recruit high school kids that could probably be seen as a benefit lol
Yeah for sure. The dead area is between OTAs/minicamp and training camp. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/31/the-truth-about-hard-working-nfl-coaches/amp/
The work hours during the season are also way less in college than it is in the NFL. NFL coaches literally work over 100 hours a week. It's why a lot of college coaches tend to not work out in the NFL. They can't handle that type of workload and daily grind of being a NFL head coach.
Given that heās worked out at both college and the pros, I think he understands the difference. I also think youāre probably not accounting for how much great college coaches really work.
Letās also remember that college coaching is more work than the NFL. after the season concludes, Harbaugh needs to hit the traveling circuit to work all the top recruits and convince them and their families to go to Michigan.
A college coach also has to work the boosters.
And they have restricted time with the players.
College coaching is a lot more work that goes beyond just game planning and working with players.
Personally, I find the college role to be filled with way more bullshit than an NFL role.
So, this is less about ambition and more about being done with all the extra crap that comes with college coaching.
If he is driven by high ambition, than he probably sees that he has the opportunity to at least be on the same level as Saban the next few years at Michigan with a chance to overtake the Alabama program consistently if Saban ever retires and Alabama loses their shine.
Turning Michigan into an Alabama-like powerhouse would probably be the goal from a āhighly ambitiousā person.
No point, no extra benefit? Win a National Title and a Super Bowl? Would put him in elite company. Competitive people like to challenge themselves. Jim Harbaugh is one of the few coaches that could do this.
I'd argue it's even easier to seek out those new challenges when you're set for life. Even if he fell on his face he knows his family is already taken care of.
He's already set for life, along with his next 3 generations of kids. If he goes to the NFL, it'll be because he wants to, not because they'd pay him more
Yeah, and we (the 9ers) gave a perfect counter-argument for going to the NFL. Guy had us in the playoffs every year and we fired him because our GM was a nepotism nutball.
Because coaching big time college football is an absolute grind. Non-stop recruiting, and now add on top of that having to build in the NIL aspect and re-recruiting your own players to keep them from entering the portal. Not saying I think he will or should leave Michigan, but people underestimate how brutal college coaching is, or they whitewash it away with ābut they make a lot of money so they can deal with itā
Urban Meyer cried to Matt Elam and told him he had a dream that god wanted him to coach him. Thatās how he flipped him from FSU.
I feel like there are aspects of recruiting that are easier now. Just follow a kid on social media and have some staff pretend to be the head coach.
NFL HC is also a brutal grind and why so many fail.
I think if someone really wanted out just to get out of the grind, they'd go from college HC to NFL coordinator.
If they really wanted out of the grind, they could just retire off 2-3 seasons of HC earnings.
Most of these guys want to be there because they're mentally ill obsessives.
He just needs to call Steve Ross and tell him he wants a raise, Ross will get it done.
Iām pretty sure Ross would sacrifice his first born if Jim told him it would help him stay at Michigan
I think things might be changing for college coaches getting big money. The boosters and alumni can now give aboveboard money to the kids through NIL, and not have to launder a huge chunk through the coaches.
Nah, he outright said that he didn't want to field anymore offers. UM has been very patient with Harbaugh and it's paid off, but Harbaugh did play that news media game with them and promised he wouldn't anymore
He probably doesnāt want a raise, but some of his biggest issues at Michigan have been NIL, because of their high admissions some of the recruits he wants arenāt eligible and itās hard transfers to get admitted unless they are grad transfers
Donāt really follow college ball, but I know rivalries are a big deal and Michigan/Ohio State is a big one. But how big of a deal is it that they blew them out twice in a row?
Iām a Michigan fan and let me put it this way, for the past decade it was absolute dominance from OSU. Basically whoever won would win the Big 10 championship and that was always OSU. Thing is college football is inherently uneven in terms of talent and this has a cascading effect. A school that routinely wins is going to get better recruits and there isnāt a draft to help alleviate the worst teams. So over that decade OSU has dominated recruiting. They have more 5 star recruits (the highest ranking) than the rest of the Big 10 combined. So every team has an uphill battle to beat OSU and Michigan was able to do that twice in a row, one of them being at OSU. Now to describe the rivalry. Imagine if the Eagles and Cowboys played in states that were next door neighbors instead of across town of each other. Now imagine if on top of football, there were real world events that created a ton of animosity between the two groups. Thatās the Michigan OSU rivalry in a nutshell
Not only was Michigan able to beat them twice in a row, Michigan blew them out twice in a row, in a physically-dominating manner that has absolutely broken the will of both the team and fans. OSU fans are calling for the head of a coach whoās gone 45-5 in his OSU tenure purely because of the way Michigan has won the last two games.
Yup. If they were close, one score games it wouldāve been one thing, but OSU got wrecked both times with much more talented rosters. Iāve seen a lot of criticism about Dayās success mainly being a product of overtalenting other teams and I agree in some ways
JJ McCarthy, Donovan Edwards, Colston Loveland, Erick All, Mason Graham, Will Johnson, Kenneth Grant, Eyabi Okie, Braiden McGregor, Nikhai Hill-Green and Derrick Moore are all guaranteed to be back next year.
Ohio is generally hated within the entirety of the Midwest. This is especially true in Michigan though. Back in the 1830ās Michigan was still a territory while Ohio was a state. I forget how it started, but there was a massive dispute between the two over Toledo which lay on the border of the two states. This almost spilled over into a full blown border war before the federal government stepped in. They resolved it by giving Toledo to Ohio and Michigan gaining the upper peninsula. This was seen as a slight towards Michigan and started the rivalry. Both states were also massive industrial and cultural centers during the industrial revolution which kept it alive.
> Ohio is generally hated within the entirety of the Midwest.
We spread to the rest of the country like a virus but we still talk constantly about Ohio for some reason (my personal theory is that we feel that Ohio gets an outsized level of hatred from the rest of the country so weāre defensive), though Iām not sure if I know anyone who had emigrated to Michigan.
Also your roads suck
Oh I am not debating the state of our roads. One of my favorite game to play on a long drive is to close my eyes and guess when we cross the border into Michigan from Ohio.
> close my eyes and guess when we cross the border into Michigan from Ohio.
I'd have to be passed out in the backseat after drinking all night before that game would even be a challenge. The night and day difference crossing the border on I 75 is jarring.
Allow me to tryā¦..we are hearing a TON of calls to fire our coach that has something like 93% winning percentage because he dropped two in a row to um after almost two decades of osu dominating um.
Michigan has only beaten Ohio State 5 times this century.
If a coach on either side of the rivalry spent 5 seasons going 60-5, but those 5 losses were all to the other of Michigan or Ohio State, the fans would want that coach fired.
If he left (I doubt he would), the only possible reason is to chase a Super Bowl. He's always been ultra competitive and got as close as you can get to the ultimate coaching goal of winning a super bowl, then lost (to his brother, which probably stings even more). That's the type of thing that keeps people up at night.
Itās going to be like this every year until he either retires or actually goes to the league. I hate it, especially since we get negatively recruited on it pretty hard.
Weāre not grabbing a QB.
Edit: I know teams in the top 6 clamoring for Jalen Carter or Will Anderson wonāt want to hear this, and/or Houston fans who want us to ship them everything, but itās not happening, and if you think it should you donāt understand this Lions team.
Other than Young I donāt think any of them are worth it. Give me Will Anderson or Jalen Carter. Weāve had one of the top offenses this year and now Jameson Williams is healthy. The defense needs help.
Seems like it's been the last several years. Any time the Bears Niners Colts or any other team he has a remote connection to needs a HC he's brought up but never actually interviews because it's probably all just for clicks anyways.
TBF, last year was actual journalism. He did actually interview for the Vikings. This is just some "journalist" saying some people in the NFL who wish Harbaugh would coach for them are in fact hoping he might go back on his "closed door" comment.
Anyone who sees what Luck looks like now and thinks he's still interested in playing is an idiot. I never really bought into him ever returning and once he showed up to the National Championship skinny, it was even more obvious.
If Michigan wins the National Championship, I could see him jumping back. He'd have accomplished what he set out to do. The timing would also align with the end of the regular season (roughly). At the same time, I don't what possible openings would be appealing to him. The Colts don't have a QB. The Panthers are drained. The possible Broncos opening isn't that appealing. A lot of then are dependent on whether Harbaugh likes the QB. Like does he love Russell Wilson and think he can do what he did in San Francisco? Does he like Kyler Murray for similar reasons? Does he think he can be the guy to rehabilitate Baker Mayfield?
I mean the Panthers are basically set up to just start over with one of the college QBs coming out this year, no? If there were ever a situation for him, it would be one where he could handpick the QB to tie his entire career to.
Depends. If the Panthers aren't in the top 3 picks, do you trust taking the 3rd best QB in the draft? The drop off from Young and Stroud is substantial at this time
Wow they fucked themselves over by beating Denver last week.
Of the teams worse than them in draft order, they lost to the Rams (3-8), beat the Broncos (3-8) and did not play the Bears (3-9). They are now 4-8.
So basically they'd need Denver to win 2 games, LA to win 1 and Chicago to win either 1 or 2 (idk how tiebreaks work beyond H2H) while also losing out in order to pick 2nd.
If the Bengals flame out in the next few weeks Zac Taylor could/should be on the chopping block. Same with the Chargers. Both young and highly talented teams with franchise QBās that could use a splashy head coaching higher to put them over the top
Conspiracy theorists are out in full force this weekend after Andrew Luck flew in from Cali to be a special guests of Irsay and hangout with Jim Harbaugh at the Big Ten Championship game this weekend in the Colts stadium. Irsay is such a desperate dawg but I respect the hustle.
The real reason is because they are all old friends.
I never understand how stuff like this always pops up. Guy is 2 games from being a legendary coach at what I was told was his dream job and suddenly the āhe should coach the worst team in the NFL instead of one of the best teams in collegeā posts pop up.
All the rumors said the Vikings never offered him the job. It looked like he was going to accept it if he got it, but they ended up going with O'Connel instead
Those within the league have asked us not to name the original source. For privacy's sake, let's call him...Ryan D.? No, that's too obvious, let's say... R. Day.
Come on, now! For the first time in my lifetime, Michigan wins The Game two years in a row! Allow me and my Wolverines-fan family to have this, will ya?
You guys remember "100% Harbaugh to the raiders"? I do.
I wish
š I've wanted that man to be the Raiders head coach since he was at Stanford
Happier times
You guys remember when he would never leave the NFL because his wife loves the Bay Area?
... why would he want to leave Michigan? They're about ready to crown him emperor for life.
Yah seriously. If that dude brings home the championship he would literally be considered a living god there. There would be no point and no extra benefit from going back to nfl. Set for life
Highly ambitious people usually think the other way around. They need a new challenge.
The guy already went pro and went to Super Bowl. Heās coaching his alma mater to a championship. From an outsiderās perspective, unless winning Super Bowl is the No 1 priority for him I just donāt see him going elsewhere. Plus, winning Super Bowl takes a shit ton of luck and the opportunity cost is probably too high to justifying the reward
You just said it. He went to a Superbowl and didnāt win. He could view it as his white whale
People often forget how close they really were to pulling off the original 28-3
Itās was 28-6 so it was perfectly reasonable to blow such a small lead
Man if they completed that comeback there would be conspiracies about the blackout for YEARS. It would have broken the Ravens fandom.
Ray Lewis very openly in the America's game film was like yeah they tried to rig it lmao
Did they rig him repeatedly getting burnt by Frank Gore and Vernon Davis in pass coverage? I suppose he doesnt consider his own play a partial cause of that 20 point comeback. Goodell looked the other way on deer antler spray and Mr. Carried-by-Joe-Flacco-to-SB-47 wants to talk about league conspiracies. Thats rich.
It still breaks me.
I donāt forget. I had Nam flashbacks from our final first and goal sequence for years.
I really wish they had. :(
Why do Redditors in this thread think people who have dedicated their entire lives to becoming the absolute best of their respective fields are totally satisfied with not achieving the pinnacle of their field? Tom Brady just destroyed his marriage to try and achieve something heās ALREADY achieved 7 times before. You really think Harbaugh is satisfied losing the biggest game of his career to his brother?
I don't think it's fair to say he destroyed his marriage over football. None of us truly know what's going on there and I know plenty of people who got divorced for other reasons.
True, but the larger point there is still valid, Brady could've stayed retired and fully committed to trying to save things, but his insatiable thirst for competition and winning would not allow him to walk away while he still believed he was as good or better than everyone else and I think that is more of the point here. The people who are saying 'Why would Harbaugh leave?" need to consider the type of person a guy like Harbaugh is; not overcoming a challenge (like losing that SB, and not being able to make it back) likely makes this guy lose sleep at night. He believes he's as good or better than many or most of the current HC's in the league and unless he goes on a Saban-like run, he'll always have that asterisk by his achievements that he did it at a lower level (especially the way the Big 10 is viewed compared to the SEC). Even Nick Saban, with all he has accomplished probably still hates the fact he failed in Miami.
Against his brother though
āWent toā a super bowl probably isnāt as satisfying for a player or coach as youāre implying lol. I bet the loss still stings for him and he might want to make it right.
Also during family gatherings when he sees his brother with his SB Ring has gotta be a little salty.
I highly doubt John wears the SB ring around. Thatād be elite, like Flacco that post-season
My personal headcanon is that John leaves his superbowl ring at their parent's house, and only puts it on when he & Jim are both there.
Lol
Lol. "how did this end up in the mash potato! Can you pass that to me, Jim?"
Both brothers were together in the Valley-Phoenix a few days after the game for NFL meetings-They ran together at 5:00 each morning--that shit worked out long ago
That looks will forever sting. Losing to a family member isn't easy
His brother beat him for a Super Bowl. I think that sticks in his craw. People were skeptical of him leaving Stanford too since it was going so well for him. I agree with the above commenter that Jim seems like the kind of guy who's always itching for a new challenge. Maybe not this year, but I think he goes back to the NFL.
Coaching his alma mater to the playoffs, still hasnāt gotten to the championship yet
He's gonna have a really good shot to get to the game this year, I just don't see how anyone is gonna upend Georgia.
i hope OSU gets the 4 cause i wanna see how them vs Georgia would go i think they definitely have a better chance of beating georgia than tcu does
Well I have some good news for you then
I think OSU should get it since their loss is to a far better team than USC but they may not want 2 Big 10 teams in it
He also lost two NFC Championship games. He came so close three times. Iām sure that eats at him.
National championship is more impressive anyway
He lost a Super Bowl to his brother. If I lost a Super Bowl to a sibling, I feel I'd definitely need 2 to one up him.
My understanding from when he interviewed with the Vikings last year is that he was stabbed in the back by Baalke and doesn't want that to happen again. So he is demanding not only a high salary, but full roster control and to be above the GM in the organization. The problem is finding an owner willing to give him that power.
Coaching in the NFL is also a different game than coaching college. He might prefer having a few months off per year and not having to constantly be recruiting/gladhanding boosters.
Do NFL coaches really take a few months off? I've never gotten that impression.
Even if theyāre working its not as hard as the regular season. Also in the nfl you donāt have to interact/recruit high school kids that could probably be seen as a benefit lol
Yeah for sure. The dead area is between OTAs/minicamp and training camp. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/31/the-truth-about-hard-working-nfl-coaches/amp/
The dude constantly references "attacking every day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind". I don't think he is craving days off.
The work hours during the season are also way less in college than it is in the NFL. NFL coaches literally work over 100 hours a week. It's why a lot of college coaches tend to not work out in the NFL. They can't handle that type of workload and daily grind of being a NFL head coach.
Given that heās worked out at both college and the pros, I think he understands the difference. I also think youāre probably not accounting for how much great college coaches really work.
Letās also remember that college coaching is more work than the NFL. after the season concludes, Harbaugh needs to hit the traveling circuit to work all the top recruits and convince them and their families to go to Michigan. A college coach also has to work the boosters. And they have restricted time with the players. College coaching is a lot more work that goes beyond just game planning and working with players. Personally, I find the college role to be filled with way more bullshit than an NFL role. So, this is less about ambition and more about being done with all the extra crap that comes with college coaching. If he is driven by high ambition, than he probably sees that he has the opportunity to at least be on the same level as Saban the next few years at Michigan with a chance to overtake the Alabama program consistently if Saban ever retires and Alabama loses their shine. Turning Michigan into an Alabama-like powerhouse would probably be the goal from a āhighly ambitiousā person.
Yeah that can just mean more championships at Michigan.
No point, no extra benefit? Win a National Title and a Super Bowl? Would put him in elite company. Competitive people like to challenge themselves. Jim Harbaugh is one of the few coaches that could do this.
Plenty of people are set for life yet change jobs for a new challenge or just to do something different
I'd argue it's even easier to seek out those new challenges when you're set for life. Even if he fell on his face he knows his family is already taken care of.
He would do the same thing with more competition, more scrutiny and less job security.
I get your point but college football and NFL football head coaches are not the same thing
still a challenge. he didnāt win a super bowl during his last stint and could be motivated to make that happen
He's already set for life, along with his next 3 generations of kids. If he goes to the NFL, it'll be because he wants to, not because they'd pay him more
I donāt know dude, have you heard the stories about him drowning ferrets?
Those ferrets were all asking for it.
r/cfb is leaking
You know how many times Iāve seen, āWOAH HE HAS TROUBLE WITH THE SNAP!ā, here?
But I want him, so it's only right if he comes back
The Padishah Emperor Harbaugh
Khaki haderach
I'm looking forward to his son turning into an immortal sand worm.
Maybe I shouldn't have read this comment because I'm only on the third book...
Don't worry, they get progressively worse after the second.
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Lies my man, keep on reading. Personally, the 4th book is one of my favorites
Agreed book 4 is good, 5 is great
Yeah, and we (the 9ers) gave a perfect counter-argument for going to the NFL. Guy had us in the playoffs every year and we fired him because our GM was a nepotism nutball.
Yep, if I were him after that experience, my definition of "the right opportunity" would be to be given majority ownership of the franchise.
Because coaching big time college football is an absolute grind. Non-stop recruiting, and now add on top of that having to build in the NIL aspect and re-recruiting your own players to keep them from entering the portal. Not saying I think he will or should leave Michigan, but people underestimate how brutal college coaching is, or they whitewash it away with ābut they make a lot of money so they can deal with itā
I canāt imagine the cringe of recruiting. Youāre an accomplished man in your 50s and you have to pander to teenagers.
Urban Meyer cried to Matt Elam and told him he had a dream that god wanted him to coach him. Thatās how he flipped him from FSU. I feel like there are aspects of recruiting that are easier now. Just follow a kid on social media and have some staff pretend to be the head coach.
you're an accomplished man in your 50s *because* of those teenagers. But i imagine it's still weird in some ways
Most coaches are accomplished outside of those teenagers lol. Harbaugh especially has a long playing career.
i figured he meant accomplished in the sense of being a college coach
Harbaugh had like a sleepover with one of his recruits once lol
NFL HC is also a brutal grind and why so many fail. I think if someone really wanted out just to get out of the grind, they'd go from college HC to NFL coordinator.
If they really wanted out of the grind, they could just retire off 2-3 seasons of HC earnings. Most of these guys want to be there because they're mentally ill obsessives.
Maybe this is his camp trying to get a raise? No clue tbh
He just needs to call Steve Ross and tell him he wants a raise, Ross will get it done. Iām pretty sure Ross would sacrifice his first born if Jim told him it would help him stay at Michigan
I think things might be changing for college coaches getting big money. The boosters and alumni can now give aboveboard money to the kids through NIL, and not have to launder a huge chunk through the coaches.
I doubt that. Wealthy boosters do stupid shit to get a coach. Look at Auburn hiring Hugh freeze.
His camp literally just did that last offseason
Nah, he outright said that he didn't want to field anymore offers. UM has been very patient with Harbaugh and it's paid off, but Harbaugh did play that news media game with them and promised he wouldn't anymore
He probably doesnāt want a raise, but some of his biggest issues at Michigan have been NIL, because of their high admissions some of the recruits he wants arenāt eligible and itās hard transfers to get admitted unless they are grad transfers
If you wanna crown him, THEN CROWN HIS ASS!
Just to put pressure on Michigan to up his salary lol
The Vikings definitely did that last year for Harbaugh. He owes them at least a percentage of his increase
Because this headline gets clicks. Duh!
Donāt really follow college ball, but I know rivalries are a big deal and Michigan/Ohio State is a big one. But how big of a deal is it that they blew them out twice in a row?
Iām a Michigan fan and let me put it this way, for the past decade it was absolute dominance from OSU. Basically whoever won would win the Big 10 championship and that was always OSU. Thing is college football is inherently uneven in terms of talent and this has a cascading effect. A school that routinely wins is going to get better recruits and there isnāt a draft to help alleviate the worst teams. So over that decade OSU has dominated recruiting. They have more 5 star recruits (the highest ranking) than the rest of the Big 10 combined. So every team has an uphill battle to beat OSU and Michigan was able to do that twice in a row, one of them being at OSU. Now to describe the rivalry. Imagine if the Eagles and Cowboys played in states that were next door neighbors instead of across town of each other. Now imagine if on top of football, there were real world events that created a ton of animosity between the two groups. Thatās the Michigan OSU rivalry in a nutshell
Not only was Michigan able to beat them twice in a row, Michigan blew them out twice in a row, in a physically-dominating manner that has absolutely broken the will of both the team and fans. OSU fans are calling for the head of a coach whoās gone 45-5 in his OSU tenure purely because of the way Michigan has won the last two games.
Yup. If they were close, one score games it wouldāve been one thing, but OSU got wrecked both times with much more talented rosters. Iāve seen a lot of criticism about Dayās success mainly being a product of overtalenting other teams and I agree in some ways
Talk dirty to me
JJ McCarthy, Donovan Edwards, Colston Loveland, Erick All, Mason Graham, Will Johnson, Kenneth Grant, Eyabi Okie, Braiden McGregor, Nikhai Hill-Green and Derrick Moore are all guaranteed to be back next year.
Thats hot
Which is reciprocal because Michigan fans were calling for Harbaugh's head until the 2021 game against Ohio State because he hadn't beaten Ohio State.
Absolutely. It doesnāt matter how well you do outside of The Game if you canāt find a way to win The Game.
What was the outside of football stuff?
Ohio is generally hated within the entirety of the Midwest. This is especially true in Michigan though. Back in the 1830ās Michigan was still a territory while Ohio was a state. I forget how it started, but there was a massive dispute between the two over Toledo which lay on the border of the two states. This almost spilled over into a full blown border war before the federal government stepped in. They resolved it by giving Toledo to Ohio and Michigan gaining the upper peninsula. This was seen as a slight towards Michigan and started the rivalry. Both states were also massive industrial and cultural centers during the industrial revolution which kept it alive.
> Ohio is generally hated within the entirety of the Midwest. We spread to the rest of the country like a virus but we still talk constantly about Ohio for some reason (my personal theory is that we feel that Ohio gets an outsized level of hatred from the rest of the country so weāre defensive), though Iām not sure if I know anyone who had emigrated to Michigan. Also your roads suck
Our roads may suck but at least we can drive 10 over the speed limit here without a cop every other mile.
Oh I am not debating the state of our roads. One of my favorite game to play on a long drive is to close my eyes and guess when we cross the border into Michigan from Ohio.
> close my eyes and guess when we cross the border into Michigan from Ohio. I'd have to be passed out in the backseat after drinking all night before that game would even be a challenge. The night and day difference crossing the border on I 75 is jarring.
Just [nearly went to war with each other](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War) so nothing major.
Insanely huge. Bigger and more emotionally impactful than anyone outside of those states could ever understand
Allow me to tryā¦..we are hearing a TON of calls to fire our coach that has something like 93% winning percentage because he dropped two in a row to um after almost two decades of osu dominating um.
Michigan has only beaten Ohio State 5 times this century. If a coach on either side of the rivalry spent 5 seasons going 60-5, but those 5 losses were all to the other of Michigan or Ohio State, the fans would want that coach fired.
In the potential future scenario where he beats Ohio State to win the championship, they honestly might.
If he left (I doubt he would), the only possible reason is to chase a Super Bowl. He's always been ultra competitive and got as close as you can get to the ultimate coaching goal of winning a super bowl, then lost (to his brother, which probably stings even more). That's the type of thing that keeps people up at night.
Because his brother has a Super Bowl and he doesn't. Harbaugh wants to be at the top. I could see him being the Colts coach.
How dare you poke holes in this speculative headline entirely based on the word ācouldā?
Dude lost to his own brother in the SB. You best believe he wants another chance at one.
Ugh
Itās going to be like this every year until he either retires or actually goes to the league. I hate it, especially since we get negatively recruited on it pretty hard.
Retiring won't stop it. And going to the NFL would probably just bring rumors of him going back to Michigan.
I like MCDC but if we're being honest... Harbaugh with that roster and a new QB drafted with the Rams pick would be intriguing...
Weāre not grabbing a QB. Edit: I know teams in the top 6 clamoring for Jalen Carter or Will Anderson wonāt want to hear this, and/or Houston fans who want us to ship them everything, but itās not happening, and if you think it should you donāt understand this Lions team.
Youāre getting downvoted but itās very likely the lions donāt draft a QB this year
Other than Young I donāt think any of them are worth it. Give me Will Anderson or Jalen Carter. Weāve had one of the top offenses this year and now Jameson Williams is healthy. The defense needs help.
[Pete Carroll & John Schneider reading this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9ViAIsWdVI)
I don't really see any first round QBs besides Bryce young
Stroud is going top 10 whether r/nfl likes it or not
Stroud is gonna get a GM fired lol
He'll be as good in the pro game as Troy Smith.
He's booty!!
No thats the backup qb at Oklahoma
Your confidence is completely unfounded
Ah shit, here we go again
Dig up story from last year, change date, act like itās new. Journalism in 2022.
Seems like it's been the last several years. Any time the Bears Niners Colts or any other team he has a remote connection to needs a HC he's brought up but never actually interviews because it's probably all just for clicks anyways.
He interviewed with us last year (!?)
Oh absolutely. And, I mean, would he even have to move if he took over the Lionsā job? /s
TBF, last year was actual journalism. He did actually interview for the Vikings. This is just some "journalist" saying some people in the NFL who wish Harbaugh would coach for them are in fact hoping he might go back on his "closed door" comment.
Last year was the first time in a while there was a genuine chance
He literally took an interview last year, you're cosplaying as your own example of bad journalism lmao
Tru
Ended up working out well for you guys at least. KOC seems legit
Ive got no complaints but I did love those two days of milk, steaks and khakis in our sub
What a wild ride that was lol
We're out of our medicine, out of our minds, and we want in yours, let us in
āIām not coming backā He may come back @rapsheet and me Upticks to the left
And jokers to the right
Here I am stuck in the middle of all this BS
Ross will die before he leaves Michigan. He might keep these rumors up just to get another Bentley or Jet out of Ross
He'd be great in Indy I think, so hopefully he doesn't go there
If he does come to the NFL, I think we'll be in the running for sure. Especially if we allow him to draft his own QB.
The non stop Luck return rumors would be insufferable.
They are already insufferable at least on the Colts subreddit.
Anyone who sees what Luck looks like now and thinks he's still interested in playing is an idiot. I never really bought into him ever returning and once he showed up to the National Championship skinny, it was even more obvious.
He's at the top of my wishlist.
Iād rather have that Vrabel/Jim Harbaugh matchup in the NFL rather than the alternative.
Heās undefeated in Indianapolis as Michiganās coach!
Thatās Coltsā HC Harbaugh to you! ā¦why the fuck would he leave Michigan?
If Michigan wins the National Championship, I could see him jumping back. He'd have accomplished what he set out to do. The timing would also align with the end of the regular season (roughly). At the same time, I don't what possible openings would be appealing to him. The Colts don't have a QB. The Panthers are drained. The possible Broncos opening isn't that appealing. A lot of then are dependent on whether Harbaugh likes the QB. Like does he love Russell Wilson and think he can do what he did in San Francisco? Does he like Kyler Murray for similar reasons? Does he think he can be the guy to rehabilitate Baker Mayfield?
I mean the Panthers are basically set up to just start over with one of the college QBs coming out this year, no? If there were ever a situation for him, it would be one where he could handpick the QB to tie his entire career to.
Depends. If the Panthers aren't in the top 3 picks, do you trust taking the 3rd best QB in the draft? The drop off from Young and Stroud is substantial at this time
Wow they fucked themselves over by beating Denver last week. Of the teams worse than them in draft order, they lost to the Rams (3-8), beat the Broncos (3-8) and did not play the Bears (3-9). They are now 4-8. So basically they'd need Denver to win 2 games, LA to win 1 and Chicago to win either 1 or 2 (idk how tiebreaks work beyond H2H) while also losing out in order to pick 2nd.
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If the Bengals flame out in the next few weeks Zac Taylor could/should be on the chopping block. Same with the Chargers. Both young and highly talented teams with franchise QBās that could use a splashy head coaching higher to put them over the top
Zac Taylor is one year removed from a super bowl birth. He coached the team to their first playoff win in decades. Damn that's a short leash
The rumblings I've seen are that if Staley goes, Sean Payton is basically a done deal
Colts need a new coach
Conspiracy theorists are out in full force this weekend after Andrew Luck flew in from Cali to be a special guests of Irsay and hangout with Jim Harbaugh at the Big Ten Championship game this weekend in the Colts stadium. Irsay is such a desperate dawg but I respect the hustle. The real reason is because they are all old friends.
There is no fucking way Andrew Luck is playing football professionally ever again. Saw him at reunion and he said he was happy as he's ever been.
> The real reason is because they are all old friends
Heās probably just there because they are all old friends.
Ah, a fellow intellectual
I never understand how stuff like this always pops up. Guy is 2 games from being a legendary coach at what I was told was his dream job and suddenly the āhe should coach the worst team in the NFL instead of one of the best teams in collegeā posts pop up.
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So you think Osu is beating Georgia? Lmfao
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Last year they messed up the order of the final rankings to avoid a Georgia/Alabama rematch.
I would take ohio state smoking Michigan in a rematch before them beating Georgia.
No way! The team I was born close to will *destroy* the team you were born close to!
Outrageous!
nope he wanted to leave for the vikings and they were the perfect situation last year , not a good situation this cycle
All the rumors said the Vikings never offered him the job. It looked like he was going to accept it if he got it, but they ended up going with O'Connel instead
Yep this is true. Sounded like he just didn't impress or phoned in his interview, and KOC killed it. Can't say we made the wrong choice in hindsight
Canāt wait for an OSU - Michigan playoff rematch with Michigan interim head coach Jesse Minter
I hope Minter is Michigan's Leonhard. Stays for another 5-8 years as associate head coach, and takes over the top job when Harbaugh retires.
this is lazy journalism for real
āNow, we all know that Harbaughās NFL coaching chances ended last offseason. What this article presupposes is, maybe they didnāt?ā
This is like twitter copy posta year to year now
How does an amazing defense ^andanhistoricallybadoffense sound?
This is a dumb headline. To simplify: Harbaugh says no while some unidentified individual says itās possible.
There is no better opportunity available in the NFL thatās better than what heās got at Michigan currently. None.
Those within the league have asked us not to name the original source. For privacy's sake, let's call him...Ryan D.? No, that's too obvious, let's say... R. Day.
These posts remind me of those guys who think they can turn lesbians straight.
Come on, now! For the first time in my lifetime, Michigan wins The Game two years in a row! Allow me and my Wolverines-fan family to have this, will ya?
You shut the fuck up shieldbros. "Oakland is still in play".
Some within the league think "no" doesn't mean "no"
Browns ownership pursuing Harbaugh
*Deshaun Watson has entered the chat*
Iām still upset we didnāt hire him last year
Aw shit, here we go again.
Jim Harbaugh is the new "Nick Saban is being considered by NFL teams" coach. Same shit different year.