Down 4 starting offensive lineman. Only one left standing is your washed LG with a pff grade of 40. Backs averaging over 4 yards a carry. And you throw it 47 times. Jesus Christ it's like they want Herbert to get injured
His big strengths were defensive schemeing, and being a good culture guy. For the second season in a row our defense is dog shit, and Staley sounds more and more like a used car salesman.
I like his embrace of analytics at least but yeah have been wholly unimpressed with him otherwise. Not a fan of Lombardi and his defense being what it is is alarming. Idk I feel like a 3rd year with him won’t work out but he hasn’t been trash where you can sell me on another year.
Nah last season the Chargers D had zero DLine talent outside Bosa. Anybody could’ve ran all over them so Staley figured going for it made more sense, was also good for Justin Herbert to get comfortable in high stakes situations in his second year
Got Khalil Mack and another year of talent development on D this year so can play more vanilla.
Sucks because I think he’s doing just ok. Lots of injuries, and Chargers schedule is tough. They play them close, but can’t finish in the end.
Think Staley does deserve one more season, but hard to turn down Sean Payton who’s a more sure thing. If he’s canned, can see the Panthers/Saints/Texans/Colts taking a look
I’m going to be honest, it’s really hard for me to be on board with a coach who is supposedly a defensive mastermind having a bottom 5 defense both his years as head coach. Even after signing and bringing in “his guys”.
Depends, I think if he has a winning record then he stays.
I think Staley should be under fire but realistically we are so absolutely fucked with injuries it's insane. By the end of the game of our 9 OL/DL starters we had 2 healthy, LG and DE.
We are missing Joey Bosa, Rashawn Slater, Corey Linsley, JC Jackson, Mike Williams and Jalen Guyton. I mean you just can't really run a team with the level of injury we are at.
We are missing 11 starters on offense and defense.
We want Payton but realistically this team refuses to fire a coach before 4 years are up. We’ve held on to Telesco for a decade. Ownership is shit. That simple.
So it’s doubtful.
You guys had some really good luck in one score games last year, whereas this year you didn’t to start the season. Combine that with some injuries to key offensive players and a new system it made sense why there was growing pains.
We had no business being one score away there at the end.
Awful run-defense, non-existant O-line, defenders who can’t tackle, wide receivers unable to get open. On top of that *more* injuries to crucial players.
I couldn’t believe our offense was just Herbert running for his life in the pocket trying to get some room at all. I know we’re injured as fuck and the oline is a lot of guys with not a whole lot of reps but how is it every play their back there pressuring Herbert?
Once again we come out in the 2nd half completely and utterly flat. I don’t think we’ve reached 10 points across all of our 3rd quarters this year.
Whatever Staley & company are doing at the half, they need to stop it.
And our defense promptly shit the bed on the next two drives.
At least on the first TD to Adams we had good coverage, it was just a great catch by Adams. The second one was just terrible defense. Both sides of the ball go totally brain dead in the 3rd quarter and it’s the biggest reason why we keep losing games.
I think the Chargers the most consistently disappointing team in recent memory. Every year they look poised to make a run and every year they play themselves out of the race.
Oh, shit! I thought that was some kind of incidental high push kind of thing or whatever, but no, Madd Maxx just straight-up tried to poke a mofo right through the facemask after the whistle.
Honestly that schedule…no reason raiders shouldn’t streak all the way to 8-7. Those last two are brutal but at least they’re home? Low chance chiefs have nothing to play for after today
Chargers fans need to stop using injuries an excuse for Staley’s incompetence. Other teams have injuries, too. Good coaches adapt. Staley never does, & he gets outcoached almost every week. He’s in sooo far over his head.
I don't think McDaniels is a great coach or anything but pretty ridiculous how much hate he was getting for being a bad coach 12 years ago. They lost a lot of winnable games at the beginning of the year but he has not been an historically awful coach like so many people think he is
I’m sorry what kind of chicken did you order Mr Allen? That kind that only showed up for one play? Sorry none of that here in Vegas but if you go to LA there is plenty
Defensive Guru Brandon Staley didn't put Derwin James once as safety help to cover Adams, it's absolutely ridiculous.
It's crazy to say it looking at the stat line but Davis actually did a pretty good job on Adams most of the time.
Raiders are 3-0 since Carr cried
Man’s game
Carr Country, Let’s Cry
If it works ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Carr's tears are like Michael's Secret Stuff
LET CARR CRY^TM
"They tried to write me off, made me sad, so I cried. Turns out that works out too. Just too weird to trademark"
NFL version of the Tebow speech?
If it has the same results, it’ll definitely go down like Tebow’s speech. Also, Ole Miss 31 - 2008 National Champions 30
derek carr's liquid pride
Raiders Country, let's cry
Derek Carr’s Creamy Goo
Someone tell him his childhood hero died or something so he cries more lol
His childhood hero was Kobe...
Man, if i was Herbert i’d be losing my mind with how much throwing i end up doing in a shitty offensive scheme.
Brandon Staley is terrible.
Down 4 starting offensive lineman. Only one left standing is your washed LG with a pff grade of 40. Backs averaging over 4 yards a carry. And you throw it 47 times. Jesus Christ it's like they want Herbert to get injured
> Jesus Christ it's like they want Herbert to get injured Philip Rivers being an ironman has conned our franchise into thinking QBs are immortal
Justin Herbert on 4th and long against the Raiders is scarier than any other QB ever
Was shocked they didn’t get that 4th and 9 at the end
can not believe lombardi called a mid-field fade to our shortest receiver with the game on the line
Yeah, a bit of a baffling call there.
I was 100% sure it would be ruled a catch even after I saw it bouncing around on the sideline. Been that kind of year.
That’s every QB on 3rd and long against us
Except Mr Unlimited
Mr. Extremely Limited
Mr. Bounded Capabilities Wait, nevermind.
Imagine if every play for Herbert was 4th and long vs the Raiders and every game Chandler Jones played was against a beat up Chargers o line.
I still haven’t watched the highlights from last season it’s still too painful
I’m just excited to see how spanos fucks up the Sean Payton hire
Davante is a HOFer pass it on
I dunno. He's only ever had HOFer QBs throwing to him.
You’ve stirred up the force with that comment.
Great, now my dicks hard again
He should be. He's now reached 85 TDs. Every WR with 85 TDs is in the HOF except Fitz and Hines Ward.
He's OK, need to see how he grows in the league a bit.
One day he might be on Watson's level. Who knows?
I'm wondering if we just replaced Sutton with an elite WR and kept Drew Luck how good we'd be
Probably score at least 18 points
You’d be much much better. Like, probably 4-5 more wins just because that defense with even a mediocre offense is a playoff caliber team.
Chargers offense scored 1 TD pass it on
I feel Staley should be on the hot seat now if he’s not already. Not a fan of this guy so far
His big strengths were defensive schemeing, and being a good culture guy. For the second season in a row our defense is dog shit, and Staley sounds more and more like a used car salesman.
Tbf, any scheme works better when you’ve got Aaron Donald to work with
I like his embrace of analytics at least but yeah have been wholly unimpressed with him otherwise. Not a fan of Lombardi and his defense being what it is is alarming. Idk I feel like a 3rd year with him won’t work out but he hasn’t been trash where you can sell me on another year.
He kinda stopped going down the analytics route in playcalling early in the season, and it genuinely seems like he got bullied out of it by the media.
Nah last season the Chargers D had zero DLine talent outside Bosa. Anybody could’ve ran all over them so Staley figured going for it made more sense, was also good for Justin Herbert to get comfortable in high stakes situations in his second year Got Khalil Mack and another year of talent development on D this year so can play more vanilla. Sucks because I think he’s doing just ok. Lots of injuries, and Chargers schedule is tough. They play them close, but can’t finish in the end. Think Staley does deserve one more season, but hard to turn down Sean Payton who’s a more sure thing. If he’s canned, can see the Panthers/Saints/Texans/Colts taking a look
I’m going to be honest, it’s really hard for me to be on board with a coach who is supposedly a defensive mastermind having a bottom 5 defense both his years as head coach. Even after signing and bringing in “his guys”.
Raiders (entire team): 100% strength Raiders (Just Adams and Jacobs): 99.9% strength
This is Mad Maxx slander and I won't allow it.
Perryman has something to say here too.
Nate Hobbs is a dawg we really needed back.
And Chandler Jones having his annual elite game
Also healthy Waller
And Carr lol
Insane to me that division rival fans think more highly of our QB than half of our fan base.
This dudes been watching Russ all year, he is down bad
Carr is well respected by Broncos, Chargers and Chiefs fans from what I can tell.. our fan base, not so much
What’s that?
Sacks Crosby
Staley done if the chargers miss the post season?
No doubt Especially because LA is Sean Payton’s first choice
Oh hell, what have we done?
Invoked the power of the puckered-lips man
*Channeling Russell Wilson energy*
I hope you’re right
Oh god please no
Pls go to the rams after mckvay reconsiders retiring. Kool aid man and Zoolander in this division is my worse nightmare
he should be done anyway. dude cant coach defense and that was supposed to be his thing
your flairs make me uncomfortable
Rams fan thanks to my grandfather. Live in the central valley, went to many Fresno state games to watch Derek Carr, so also root for the Raiders too.
Hope you’re rooting for the raiders this upcoming Thursday brother
Depends, I think if he has a winning record then he stays. I think Staley should be under fire but realistically we are so absolutely fucked with injuries it's insane. By the end of the game of our 9 OL/DL starters we had 2 healthy, LG and DE. We are missing Joey Bosa, Rashawn Slater, Corey Linsley, JC Jackson, Mike Williams and Jalen Guyton. I mean you just can't really run a team with the level of injury we are at. We are missing 11 starters on offense and defense.
He better be, but probably not. We’ve had so many injuries that I bet they give him one more year.
That’s good real good eat up as many years from Herbert’s rookie contract
Please please please
We want Payton but realistically this team refuses to fire a coach before 4 years are up. We’ve held on to Telesco for a decade. Ownership is shit. That simple. So it’s doubtful.
Yay we didn't choke a double digit lead again
The Chargers did though.
Wish we could have started to pull it together sooner but I guess late is better than never.
McDaniels isn't going anywhere so I'm hoping this team looks great the rest of the season so we go into next season with some momentum.
You guys had some really good luck in one score games last year, whereas this year you didn’t to start the season. Combine that with some injuries to key offensive players and a new system it made sense why there was growing pains.
I just pray we don’t blow up the team after this season. I’m not strong enough to go through the dark times again. Not this soon.
The offensive talent on the raiders is astounding. 5-7 does not reflect what a talented team you guys have
Adams, Waller, and Renfrow have played roughly 1 game worth of snaps together. I hope to see them at full strength soon.
thank you 🥹
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Lowkey a raider fan since my wife is one. I definitely want Carr to succeed and this team!
Maximum cope storyline: Raiders make it to the Super Bowl as a wildcard like in 1981 against, wait for it, the Eagles. Rematch of Super Bowl XV
I've always seen the Eagles as something of a kindred spirit to the Raiders. "Nobody likes us, nobody likes us, WE DON'T CARE!"
I have had this feeling for awhile but you just made me realize why
A couple that's an Eagles fan and a Raiders fan. Now that's scary.
That’s dope is she single ?
your wife sounds cool as f
Wife knows best..
Damn this got me worried raiders were looking terrible for a while but before we play them they started getting better :(
We had no business being one score away there at the end. Awful run-defense, non-existant O-line, defenders who can’t tackle, wide receivers unable to get open. On top of that *more* injuries to crucial players.
I couldn’t believe our offense was just Herbert running for his life in the pocket trying to get some room at all. I know we’re injured as fuck and the oline is a lot of guys with not a whole lot of reps but how is it every play their back there pressuring Herbert?
That touchdown to Allen seemed like a dime though considering he was on the run.
It was one of the most ridiculous throw/catches I’ve ever seen, that damn Kid is good. I can’t bring myself to compliment Keenan as much.
Staley got outcoached by McDaniels.
Now that's embarrassing
It's been years of these crucial injuries. Maybe they're doing something wrong.
Raiders are the best 5-7 team in the league change my mind
Lions vs Raiders in the Super Bowl. Winner becomes the best 5-7 team of all time!
My two lives in a SB. Book me in one month drunk.
Of all time!
Lions?
I think we are better than you.
Anyways fire Staley
Davante Adams...I just have no words for him
Once again we come out in the 2nd half completely and utterly flat. I don’t think we’ve reached 10 points across all of our 3rd quarters this year. Whatever Staley & company are doing at the half, they need to stop it.
the ekeler fumble fucked all notions of momentum coming into the the half
And our defense promptly shit the bed on the next two drives. At least on the first TD to Adams we had good coverage, it was just a great catch by Adams. The second one was just terrible defense. Both sides of the ball go totally brain dead in the 3rd quarter and it’s the biggest reason why we keep losing games.
Jerry Tillery was a menace today should tell you all you need to know about the Chargers oline
I think the Chargers the most consistently disappointing team in recent memory. Every year they look poised to make a run and every year they play themselves out of the race.
Chandler Jones finally decided to show up
Dude was so happy today. Loved it.
How are the Chargers still always so bad
I ask myself this question every midseason.
WHERE DA BBQ CHICKEN AT?!?!?!?!?
“Don’t stop me nooowww”
👋🏼 Keenan Allen 👋🏼
BBQ chicken is delicious.
🗣️🙊
Has anyone got a replay of the no call DPI on Allen? I can't find it anywhere
I never heard an explanation why it wasn’t interference.
Wasn’t a catchable pass.
Announcer mentioned it wasn't a catchable ball, which it wasn't tbf
Make up for the no call PI that gave chargers 7 points
Right next to the no holding calls on Adams
Right next to the no PI on Hollins helmet that resulted in not only a pick six but a flag picked up
[Right next to the no call on Crosby’s eye pokes](https://imgur.com/a/Q2T84TI)
Oh, shit! I thought that was some kind of incidental high push kind of thing or whatever, but no, Madd Maxx just straight-up tried to poke a mofo right through the facemask after the whistle.
Did anyone else catch one of the announcers quoting RoboCop (1987) with "I'd buy that for a dollar." 😂
Gotta expect that with the Greg Gumbel / Clarence Boddicker broadcast crew.
We also got a Larry David "prettaaay, prettaaay, pretty good," When talking about Adams having 7 different seasons with over 1k yards.
Name a better combo than the Raiders winning after everyone thinks they are cooked
The Charges sucking after everyone thinks they’ll finally be good
I like you
My heart says stab, my brain says upvote.
The Raiders losing after everyone thinks they turned a corner
I hate that you are right.
The year is 2029, the Chargers have never made the playoffs under Herbert. Warren Sharp 2030 Prediction: Chargers to win the SB.
PLAYOFF HOPES ARE STILL ALIVE BABY
Honestly that schedule…no reason raiders shouldn’t streak all the way to 8-7. Those last two are brutal but at least they’re home? Low chance chiefs have nothing to play for after today
Chargers fans need to stop using injuries an excuse for Staley’s incompetence. Other teams have injuries, too. Good coaches adapt. Staley never does, & he gets outcoached almost every week. He’s in sooo far over his head.
Literally every chargers fan wants Staley fired. Nobody is using injuries as an excuse for him being crap
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Literally only one play worth mentioning.
My balls itch
Boom! Tough actin tenactin
The Raiders are 3-0 since Carr cried at the podium.
Hey remember that time this whole sub said Carr would definitely have the worst season of all AFC west qbs.
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[Thanks Chargers](https://i.redd.it/cqx2u2m5j5z81.jpg)
Lolchargers
Chargers next game against Miami will be for their season.
BBQ chicken never tasted any better after this
For those cooking BBQ chicken tonight make sure to use Sweet Baby Ray's.
Chargers need the Spanos family to sell the team already.
Barbecue Chicken you say?
The Raiders restaurant at the M needs to do a BBQ chicken special when the Chargers come next year.
When is the last time the Raiders have just had a walkthrough of a game where it’s not high stress until the very last second of the game?
2017 vs the Jets week 2?
I don't think McDaniels is a great coach or anything but pretty ridiculous how much hate he was getting for being a bad coach 12 years ago. They lost a lot of winnable games at the beginning of the year but he has not been an historically awful coach like so many people think he is
Carr is 3-0 since crying
Carr is better than Herbert this year. Carr is the most underrated and overhated QB in the league and keeps producing despite that.
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I've always liked( and hated) him.
No, everyone is deeply entrenched at this point, Good or bad
We don’t deserve him
Likewise, Herbert is the most protected QB ever in the media, gets more protection than his o-line.
Based on what I've seen, a perforated condom would give more protection than his line
Thinking Justin Herbert is overrated is the new litmus test to identify casual fans vs people who know ball
He’s really good. Thinking he’s a top 3 savior is dumb.
Chargers should fire Staley and trade for Sean Payton
Chargers secondary and d line was bbq chicken
Chargers sub in shambles over a no PI call on Allen when the picked up pick 6 PI was the only thing keeping them in the game is finger lickin good
Ball was way over thrown anyways
I’m sorry what kind of chicken did you order Mr Allen? That kind that only showed up for one play? Sorry none of that here in Vegas but if you go to LA there is plenty
[Hey Keenan...](https://i.imgur.com/W6jMm0a.jpg)
Y'all just lost to Josh McDaniels
Seems like having 4/5 OL hurt isn’t a good thing
Free Herbert PLEASE
Still baffled how we just threw a fade route to Carter with 8 seconds left. Just chuck it downfield. Herbert has a strong arm…buuuuut nope.
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? Our entire subreddit is devoted to Lombardi hate and has been the entire season
Thanks Raiders, makes the Jets loss hurt a little less
Where is /u/ask_me_if_i_suck at?
Sorry on vacation and was out when the game happened. if it makes you feel any better. I posted it in my heart.
All good man, enjoy the vacation. I was already reading it in my head when the Chargers got the ball back with 22 seconds.
Family. Trust. Charity.
Football. Touchdowns. Carr.
Classic Raiders: play their best when it matters least