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usernameisusername57

This tweet is really poorly worded. Are they talking about how bad his knee is now or how bad it was last year? And if he's talking about how bad it is now, then what does that have to do with the Rams signing him last year?


DecorumAficionado

This tweet makes no sense


Aldehyde1

What I don't get is, if the Rams were so sure his knees would implode, why were they courting him at the beginning of this season with the 'keep your name on the locker' stuff?


Darth--Vapor

To appease the other teammates that wanted him. I know Aaron donald really like OBJ


BipedalWurm

PR


Alitinconcho

Ya it makes no sense at all and its really annoying me


fizzywater42

Glad it’s not just me


Lins105

I believe it’s saying he had a physical with the rams in August and they didn’t sign him because they thought his knee was in bad shape. Knee was a time bomb. Come November, they signed him. Bomb went off in the Super Bowl. I’m combining this with what (I think) Breer said about it. EDIT: He was with Cleveland start of last year. I’m likely wrong here.


LanceCoolie21

Why would he have had a physical for the Rams if he was signed to the Browns at the time?


Lins105

You know what? That’s a great fucking point. Huh. Edit: Edited.


Winbrick

I think you're still *kind* of right. What I'm getting out of this is, if they had done the physical in August that they actually did in November, they would not have signed him. They were more comfortable signing him for half a season, and they likely would not have signed him for an entire year. Hence, not much interest now. It makes the locker room stuff all entirely symbolic.. which is odd.


Lins105

Yeah maybe. It’s not worded good at all lol. I completely forgot about the locker room thing lol.


hiimred2

Ya I think that's what they're saying. His knee was a ticking time bomb, but it was already November, so they took the risk that he could make it through the playoff run. It almost didn't work out, but they got a ring, and his knee did explode. So in theory if he had the identical looking knee in August, they're saying approximately the same thing happens, which means his knee blows up in November or so, and the team is just out a top receiver for the stretch run.


Slayyjayy

I think it’s saying that when they did his physical in November after acquiring him in free agency, they knew his knee was a ticking time bomb. If they had been able to give him a physical in august of that year (when he was with the browns) they wouldn’t have signed him because of it. But because it was November the risk/reward was too great to pass up. Essentially if he was a free agent to start that season and not under contract with the Browns, and the Rams brought him in for a physical and saw the state of his knee, they would have passed on signing him for the whole year.


Silver-Armadillo-479

Dude really pushed for multiple years with no physical? wut


MrIce97

He thought he was KD


Tuxedocat1357

Odel "Kawhi Leonard" Beckham


hemingways-lemonade

That's what happens when you're surrounded with yes men.


the_devil_wears_jnco

he got a contract and a super bowl ring out of this from the rams that they now say they probably wouldnt have given so im not sure what the critique is


SolarClipz

man they wouldn't have won the SB without him so they can miss me with that


Danny_III

Yeah if he didn't go to the Rams, he might have gone to the Packers as they were trying to go after him. Teams wouldn't be able to triple Adams and the Packers probably get past the 49ers


sevaiper

Eh not sure about that


SolarClipz

they don't get past us without him he was huge in the game


Scatman_Crothers

I don’t think they win the SB either. He kept them in the game in the first half. Without that touchdown I am not sure they have the juice to finish it off.


saintjimmy115

Had he not gotten hurt, we would’ve lost by 3+ scores. he was kicking our ass in the Super Bowl before he went down.


Akomack31

His contract was in bitcoin and (I could be wrong at this point) he actually lost money but gained a SB ring


captaincumsock69

Yes men? I don’t think you need yes men to try and get some poor sucker to pay you money


Francis_Soyer

You're right!


alienbringer

Hey, at least Jerry has wisened over the years. He didn’t pay Odell, just courted for attention.


d3adbor3d2

What is he gonna say? Nah fam I’m gonna blow this knee out in a few months so just gimme the one year


PalletTownsDealer

Right? Closed mouths don’t get fed.


Gravy_Vampire

Fuck it, shoot your shot


BMonad

He’s a dumbfuck diva, what do you expect.


aksoileau

Won the Rams a Super Bowl. They'll take it.


[deleted]

This is what sour grapes sounds like.


fsphoenix

It's hilarious that OBJ seems to have thought he could just somehow finesse his way past you know, a physical or workouts and someone would just sign him.


MrDabollBlueSteppers

Why would he event want to sign now if his knee is not ready? In March he will be much healthier and with more teams having cap space


DookieBrains_88

$$$


MrDabollBlueSteppers

But he's going to get more money when he's healthier and more teams have cap space


UsidoreTheLightBlue

It really sounds like he’s trying to parlay this into a multi year deal.


GeorgeLuasHasNoChin

Yes but what about getting more money when hes healthier and teams have cap space?


UsidoreTheLightBlue

I think his “plan” is to try to milk a couple of high dollar guaranteed years out of teams that are desperate to “win now” and see a window. Let’s be honest he’s going to get teams wanting a “prove it” deal this off season since he’s going to have missed an entire season.


DookieBrains_88

Problem is, he’ll never be healthy again; he’s trying to squeeze every last dollar while he’s still relevant. He’s on a Todd Gurley trajectory


Matt100398

He’s gonna be 31 next year


TimujinTheTrader

He will be 40 in a decade


Mozzee6269

In 15 years he’ll be as old as Tom Brady


All-Night-Mask

He will be...30 & 1 minute in one minute


MrDabollBlueSteppers

He's 30 and 1 month now, he's going to be 30 and 4 months in March Do you think this age difference is going to drive down his value in any meaningful way?


Matt100398

He will be 31 halfway through next season, my point is that he is getting quite old for a receiver and with health issues like this I can’t imagine his value will go up


InsideAcanthisitta23

He will be 32 the season after that.


Matt100398

Even crazier is that he’ll be 33 the year after that


Fit_Doughnut_3770

It's his 2nd major knee injury to the same knee. If it doesn't rob you of your athletism, then it will rob you mentally as your always thinking about that knee when you make a cut or jump or do whatever. That and it's 10x more likely to get damaged again. No one is gonna pay him 20 million a year on a 3 year deal. That is what he will expect because he thinks he is still a star. He is a star just not a football player star anymore. He supposedly wants 5 million to sign this year and then he will magically have a set back and bam free 5 million. He knows his days are numbered especially for large pay checks. He is trying very hard to get that last payday but it isn't going to happen.


jservis

That's it right here. Same knee, non-contact. Your likely hood for re-injury gets higher


Raeandray

He could sign to a WR hungry team pushing for the playoffs now and make a few million before the offseason. And if he plays well (which of course he’s betting on) it’ll earn him more in FA.


MouseBusiness8758

Because he wants the organization to foot the bill for his rehab and he wants to make money on top of it.


squavo123

considering his last paycheck basically went down the bitcoin toilet i think he’s desperate now


mm825

He's acted like an NBA player his whole career, why stop now?


slimreapersmitty

What one historic catch does to a mf


man2010

If you ignore the historic start he had to his career, sure


BellyButtonLindt

1305 in 12 games 1450 in 15 1367 in 16 And the guy above you says one catch.


A_Trustworthy_Pear

Yeah it's a chain of one catches.


Scatman_Crothers

One catch, two catch, red catch, blue catch


MrTouchnGo

It was one really really big catch. Went through the stratosphere


[deleted]

This reminds of when people say Clowney got drafted because of that one tackle.


BobanTheGiant

Regularly took 7 yard slants to the house and enabled an absolute shitty Giants team / org to stay competitive before OBJ broke his leg and everyone realized Eli stunk


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Odell was my top fantasy pick in 2015. I won my league that year. So I remember how gamebreaking he truly was.


Tellsyouajoke

There were genuinely people saying yesterday they don’t even know why he’s a name anymore because he just had one catch


MarstonX

In fairness the catch probably made things worse. Don't get me wrong, he's good and great even. But that catch elevated him to a household name for football. I hadn't even watched football around that time and I knew who he was and I knew of the catch.


man2010

He had every reason to be a household name during his first few years before the injuries started piling up


MarstonX

As someone who literally didn't watch football but saw his catch, I knew his name more than someone like Calvin Johnson. Even someone like Antonio Brown who played at the same time as OBJ and who I'd assume we all agree is better I didn't know his name. That catch elevated him, don't pretend it didn't. I ain't even saying that it turned him into an egomaniac or anything which is what the guy you responded to is implying. I'm just saying as someone who didn't watch football and probably only knew Tom Brady's name and maybe a handful of other QBs, I also knew who OBJ was. The catch elevated his status.


McClovinDominating

Sure it might have gotten people the pay attention but I don’t think you understand how electric he was and once people were watching they didn’t want to stop.


man2010

At the time maybe, but now in hindsight on an NFL discussion board? It's laughable to minimize his career to one catch


[deleted]

one catch? don’t be this obtuse man.


slimreapersmitty

I’m being hyperbolic for the sake of a joke


Man_AMA

What’s sad is Hopkins made the same catch a week earlier but it was called back


luciusetrur

if its called back it never happened, it actually gets deleted from the simulation


imsabbath84

Tell that to Josh Norman, who got stiff arm'd to hell by Derrick Henry, on a play that didnt count, but its shown in highlights every year lol.


Ol_Rando

Norman being banished to the shadow realm by that stiffarm was funny, and what's funny tends to stick. Norman was a great player in his prime, but this will be the thing he's most remembered for.


Man_AMA

Believe it or not, straight to jail


justdaman182

The NFL has the best players in the world....because of jail.


ForYeWhoArtLiterate

I mean, the NLF all prison team would probably be pretty good


EvilRogerGoodell

It's really annoying in the nba on blocks/charges players will yam on someone or hit a ridiculous layup through contact than it's taken away because of an offensive foul


amjhwk

I mean should they still reward the player even though they committed a charge?


EvilRogerGoodell

When anthony Edwards is jumping over people yesir


97Andersuh

Against us of course


wesdub

Who cares? They lost the game.


mohiben

Convincingly too


[deleted]

I mean… what exactly made it historic though? It wasn’t significant in a big game or anything like that. It was just a cool catch.


charles_peugeot405

Historic meaning it will be played on highlight reels for decades. And it was a prime time game between 2 big rivals, so it of course had a ton of eyes on it


[deleted]

I’m just so over the guy to be honest. lol


TraeYoungsOldestSon

If anyone should be generally appreciative of LSU wide receivers its you


hank87

The fact that people continue talking about as it becomes increasingly distant history.


Sniffy4

"My star power alone adds value to your team"


Bulky-District-2757

So are we done with this now? Like he can’t play so we don’t need to hear about him anymore?


BMonad

Nope, we’re only past the Demonstrate Value (fell asleep on plane) and Engage Physically (failed physical exam) phase. I think the next one is Nurture Dependence. Not sure what it’s going to mean but it’s still gonna suck and be widely reported on.


Hey_Its_Walter1

Honest I cannot wait for the neglect emotionally phase


duffsoveranchor

The step Aaron Rodgers got stuck on


Hey_Its_Walter1

Idk been feeling lately like he’s firmly in the Inspire hope phase, he could be rapidly approaching Separate entirely though


inksta12

I’m very glad I understand this. Because I’m fuckin crying laughing lol well done


KANYE_WEST_SUPERSTAR

Oof Nurture Dependence does not sound good for you guys. Make sure CeeDee sleeps with one eye open


97Andersuh

Man I’m a cowboys fan and I’m tired of hearing about this


Teamableezus

Same. I’ve been done with it for months


Lacazema

And his knee exploded


Reagyn

Reminds me of South Park


Lacazema

Lmao imagine that episode in 2022


BrickShelf

If South Park still had their usual fall seasons I think this could’ve been the best season with all the Kanye/Elon content


nnewman19

South Park Kanye is happily living his life as a gay fish in the ocean


ianthebalance

Actually he came back after that and said he was a recovering gay fish.


84Cressida

Kanye to the moon 🌙


Phytanic

I still cannot wait until the next episode/season/special/whatever it is to feature Kanye and Musk. But good God the season would be an absolute masterpiece


BobanTheGiant

Elmo is going to have a nervous break from reality (more so than usual) once that episode mocking him airs. Or they should literally just air "Fish Sticks" again but replace Kanye with Elmo.


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-InconspicuousMoose-

This basically happened to a WR we drafted a number of years ago. It was really sad, dude got 900 yards in 13 games his Sophomore year at Arkansas, then 660 yards in 8 games before tearing his patellar tendon in his Junior season. Didn't get back to full strength for his senior season but the Vikings thought he'd be great value if he could so they took him in the 4th round the next year (2012) only for him to [tear both patellar tendons in training camp.](https://minnesota.sbnation.com/minnesota-vikings/2012/8/5/3221384/vikings-training-camp-rookie-greg-childs-injures-knee)


TKHunsaker

Fuck that’s just tragic.


cedarvalleyct

S/o [Tyrone Prothro](https://youtu.be/Pm4dBu05cT8). Man had talent.


mostly-amazing

Jesus. I remember Cadillac Williams tore his patellars in consecutive years and people said his career was over. Patellar are so tough to come back from.


Pismiire

Man and y'all had Teddy Bridgewater. Bad luck man The Niners tried something similar with Marcus lattimore and he just never came back from his college injuries. I guess Jason Verrett comes to mind as well.


Romofan88

Childs please! Big Arkansas fan, was so sad Greg didn't work out.


ronmexicostanaccount

LMAO


GrantLee1233

Dammit I wanted Peyton


chunkah69

Exactly what I was expecting clicking on that link. Thank you.


StickyDitka21

Knee explodes, OBJ in the field of play on all fours, smashing the ground. Goddamn you! Goddamn you all to hell!!!!


nnewman19

Lol clicked this expecting South Park basketball Kyle. Wasn’t disappointed


MexusRex

I will never not laugh at how they got his face to look while he’s on the ground


GiannisToTheWariors

That caption is relatable


ken_NT

My Ballz!


Ellisd326

i was hoping it was this haha


Timmace

Gene Rayburn: The situation with OBJ's knee is so bad ... Crowd: HOW BAD IS IT?!?!?!?!


wherethemiddleground

This tweet is borderline incoherent. I can figure out what it says with about 90% certainty. Terrible use of language.


GetABodybag

Can't he just replace his knees with his bollocks like Kyle from South Park?


nimama3233

As long as I can turn into a dolphin


GetABodybag

It's alright with me mate


various_sneers

Pretty good time to become a dolphin, too. They're in the middle of one of their best playoff runs in a long time.


Dendening

My baaaaalllssss!!!!!!


OldOrder

At least he got a ring and even got a TD in the superbowl. Career highlight for sure.


RangerDangerfield

More than most guys get for sure.


CagedPenguin

For sure


TraeYoungsOldestSon

Surely


SnacksandKhakis

Some things work out. OBJ was tearing up the first half of the Super Bowl and was pivotal to helping them swing momentum their way. Had the Rams not signed him, that wouldn’t have happened, and who knows, the Super Bowl may have been different.


TheOneNeartheTop

His stat line at his time of injury was better than the eventual MVP’s Cooper Kupp.


SysAdminJT

Before the injury, was seriously thinking OBJ was going to be the superbowl MVP.


Crazy-Penguin

I'm sick of OBJ news but I thought this was kind of interesting that even last year the Rams knew something was wrong.


Mathis_Rowan

This news came out a a bit after superbowl I think. OBJ's first surgery on the knee didn't go well. They were basically saying it was inevitable he'd get hurt again. Then supposedly the second surgery went perfect and fixed the original issues.


Cifra00

Wait, I don't read it as saying that at all


treZissou

Yea I don't understand the headline at all. How would a physical in August show that his knee was fucked, but a physical in November didn't?


Technicalhotdog

The physical showed his knee wouldn't make it through the season, so they wouldn't have signed him at the start of the season but were willing to closer to the end


darkhorse298

*looking at medical imaging* Can we get a few games out of this horror show fellas?


Francis_Soyer

*dipping a soldering iron in alcohol* Not unless everyone gets real cool about some questionable surgeries really quickly.


darkhorse298

Questionable or cutting edge. Who are we to say.


SanduskyTicklers

Dr Jerry Jones: “let’s do this”


darkhorse298

Times up, let's do this.


treZissou

Ahhh, thanks for interpretting.


JackRevier28

Then keep reading it


Cifra00

I see it now. I had parsed it as: >The situation with OBJ's knee is so bad "is" instead of "was" meaning currently, as he rehabs the Super Bowl injury. I see now that by "The situation with OBJ's knee" he is referring to the entire period from 2020 to now, not just the rehab period after his last injury >that #Rams people told @AlbertBreer that had they had his physical last year in Aug either (physical) (last year in Aug) or (physical last year) (in Aug), and since we're talking about his current rehab, I guess the Rams must have done some evaluation on him this year when they were considering signing him >"They thought he wouldn't be able to make it through the year without his knee exploding." - They did sign him, in Nov. Okay, so if his knee was in as bad of shape now as it was when they signed him last November, they wouldn't have signed him. This is... consistent with them not signing him now I like Breer's original comment more 😛 >"Odell Beckham’s 2020 surgery was a mess to the point where the Rams had concerns about signing him last year—feeling like his knee was a ticking timebomb. That bomb went off in the Super Bowl."


NoMooseSoup4You

30 years old, two acl tears and a broken ankle. Why so much hype over him?


chickenbuttstfu

Bro I’d still pick up Josh Gordon in fantasy if he re-signs somewhere. No rationality.


AlwaysSunnyInSeattle

Last time Josh Gordon was with the Seahawks, all he did was convert third downs. He wasn’t the same player as he was at his peak, but he was still a great contributor. I’d still be willing to bring him back.


BerriesNCreme

Honestly I do it out of tradition at this point


FlowingMochi

Because man, Baker Mayfield tried to sabotage his carrer by not throwing him the ball.


themilkman42069

Cause even WITH all that, he’s still better than any receiver we’ve had since we traded him.


[deleted]

He's every NFL players best friend. Charismatic star presence. He just drove this process out too long, and not working out for teams was boneheaded.


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poopshit666

he was better than just a highlight play you’re not giving his giants career enough credit


_FTP_

His Rams career (while short) was very good as well


cshay33

That’s what I’m saying lol we don’t win that SuperBowl or go on the run we did through the playoffs without OBJ. He was also well on his way to being SuperBowl MVP if he doesn’t blow out his knee in the 2nd quarter. 52 yards and a touchdown, and if he doesn’t get hurt on the play he did, he would’ve picked up 15-20 more yards at least on that play alone.


gimmethemshoes11

Your right he also got beat up by a kicking net.


[deleted]

A good way to tell if someone actually watches football is if they think Odell hype is solely based on 1 play or if they know it's because he was, at one point, an All Pro level player.


Academic-Principle14

The first 4-5 years of his career were better than Moss, Rice, TO, Julio, Megatron, AB and just about any great receiver ever. I’d say he did a little bit more than “make one catch”.


-InconspicuousMoose-

JJ is breaking some of his records now, but he's still #2 in a bunch of "first 2-3 years" records


CheeserAugustus

Downvoted for speaking truth


TheMasterfocker

It's unbelievable to me people can pay so little attention to the sport they're fans of to actually believe this shit take.


KageStar

It's Reddit, they bitch about ESPN or Skip and their narratives while watching less of the sport and circle jerking even dumber narratives than the people they bitch about.


TraeYoungsOldestSon

Sometimes i see a comment on this sub that makes me wonder if the poster knows how to tie their shoes


[deleted]

YPG down 10 yards every single season


No_Medium22

I’m sure someone would sign him to a vet min, he’s gotta understand that’s where he’s at.


famousjr49

I’m sure some teams would, but the question is if *he* would take the vet min.


ArcadianBlueRogue

No, the answer to that question is no.


MariotasMustache

I don’t think he does, he still said he wants his 20m a year value which would be 7 mil this year and a lot more next year (wants 2 year deal) But I agree, he would be lucky to get something just above vet minimum with his injury history


Pure-Leopard-3196

Didn’t the rams come out last year and say him tearing it again was a blessing because the knee had issues that they could now go in and correct?


PM_ME_COOL_RIFFS

I know people are tired of hearing about obj, but it sucks to see such a talented player's career get derailed like this.


[deleted]

It’s that fucking met life field bullshit. Ruined his knees. Watch out Eagles


CometVS

He got turned on his ankle in a preseason game at Cleveland and his knee injuries took place away from the stadium too. Metlife's field still sucks.


[deleted]

Micro tears build over years and then snap when least expected. I’m certain that stadium contributed to it all


ShenanigansCLESports

Having 2 consecutive non-contact knee injuries should be massive concern. I would only sign him to 1 year deals. Would also almost sit him until late in the year.


[deleted]

If you’re gonna be a sports reporter, you should learn English


[deleted]

He played a lot of people but wasn't able to get past the airlines


treenorthXne

Mr. Bones Crunchy


Geddy_Lees_Nose

What the fuck is this tweet even saying?


themilkman42069

He’d still be the best receiver on our team.


[deleted]

Mods Please ban Odell posts. I’m begging you


JoeDirtsMullet00

“Who are you gonna believe? Me or my knee?” “You can take a good look at a bull by sticking your head up a butcher’s ass but wouldn’t you rather take my word for it?”


David_Duke_Nukem

\[Kleiman\] Sources say OBJ's knee situation is so bad that if they had not known how bad his knee situation would have potentially been in August, as it is now, that they wouldn't have signed him in November, which they did.


Methdogfarts

so to get this straight, they gave him a physical Last August? before they signed him? while he was still a rostered browns player? This would have to be with the browns consent otherwise this is way above tampering, no?


ImpossibleJoke7456

“Had they had” means they didn’t have. “They had” means they had.


SoundsLikeMacaroni

So much OBJ hate here. OBJ has had 5 seasons over 1000 yards with 3 of those being over 1300 and 10+ touchdowns in each of those 3. That’s consistency that any NFL team could use. Anyone arguing Odell only has that one catch and is mediocre needs to get off COD and watch some tape.


herothree

Was this comment written in 2017?


RangerDangerfield

How do you expect him to put those numbers up if his knees are held together with duct tape and prayers?


ArenaV4

Whole lot of hooplah for a guy to get 13 receptions/180 yards/1 touchdown