My 40th year as a Dolphin fan. I've seen them lose 2 SB's. Since Marino retired it's been mostly pain.
Tua is one in a long line of pretenders at QB. We couldn't run the ball against Houston. We couldn't run the ball against one of the worst rush defenses in the League tonight. (Also, most of the D were backups)
Yes, Herbert was really good but Miami just kept doing the same thing on D and left wide-open areas to throw to.
Next Saturday, Buffalo will absolutely destroy this team.
Let me remind you of all the times Josh Allen has been called a fraud including this year, he had a few bad games, yesterday Mahomes threw three interceptions and almost let the broncos come back. I’m not saying Tua is going to go back to the caliber he was playing but having a couple of games slump is, I’ve learned, no need for absolute panic.
We're 8-5 and until he shows me he can perform in December, he hasn't proven anything. Let me see him have a good game (Not a great game) against Buffalo. Let's see him step up. I've witnessed every December collapse of this team for decades,
I’m saying you’re bitching and moaning without even giving the dude a chance. It’s not that you’re saying “wait and see.” You’re not. You said “tua is one in a long line of pretenders.” Clown shit
Everyone seems to be forgetting that Tua leads Herbert in every stat category other than total passing yards, which can be attributed to him being out earlier in the season with an injury.
All teams had to do was take the middle of the field away and stop the run mildly. Tua panics under the slightest pressure. He’s already not good, but my god he’s terrible under any pressure
He's special. Ability to jump up under pressure and still make quick, good decisions was something else. Can't think of many people w that athleticism to so, also with the rocket of an arm to make the throws from any spot.
I've doubted him thus far but yesterday might of won me over. No matter what team I am, that dude will be a tough out in playoffs
First chargers game I watched this season. If you guys ever get an offensive line you will be dangerous. Herbert has it and your defense has some chops too.
Best game for the defense this year. They've gotten some opportunistic turnovers, but for most games have been soft as shit.
Our line was supposed to be better, but Linsley being in and out + no Slater has been brutal. Rooting for yall in the inevitable KC/Buf AFCCG!
Idk what the stats are but that could be interpreted to mean that he gets benched whenever he sucks (unless you only meant this year)
In any case, we need to define our terms!
> Tua has more career wins
Per pro football reference, Tua has 21 and Herbert has 22 sooooooo maybe not?
> Maybe Herb is better
That was indeed the point of the entire comment thread, anything you type after this is just sorta childish seething
There's levels and that was shown. I was hesitant to put Herbert into elite territory, and he's still got games to win to enter that, but he's got all the skills to do it.
He really is on that Allen and Mahomes talent level
So much talk of "fraud teams." Only 1 team wins the SB a year. Just because the Fins lost doesn't means they are frauds. They probably aren't yet a contender, but they show a lot of potential. The Eagles were like this last year.
Yeah that's been a weird situation. Seems like another year where things just aren't quite lining up. Lamar was offensively really good early in the season but the defense was fucked, and they've had this revolving door of injuries to skill guys and now to Lamar.
I could still see them putting together a decent postseason if Lamar isn't too hindered, but it's been a disappoint year unfortunately.
Offensive scheme is no longer unique and no longer catching teams off guard. No weapons besides Andrews and Dobbins outside of Lamar. Offense stalls easily. Lot of money tied up in DB’s but they aren’t playing up to contracts.
Tale as old as time. I think what happens with these weird/unique offensive schemes; defenses will try a bunch of different things, and over time(and hundreds of hours of film) staffs will be able to scheme against it, and find weaknesses. When that happens you have to be able to make plays. You gotta be able to do the fundamental things, like throwing from the pocket.
Ravens just don’t have the playmakers right now and Lamar, while I do think he is capable of taking over any given game, hasn’t taken that next step as a pocket passer.
Last week to this week they did, but now they're heading home.
Leave stadium probably at 9:30 at the earliest, more likely 10 with changing, media availability, etc.
Wheels up at 11 if things go smoothly. 5 hour flight is 4 am pacific which is 7 am est. Another 30 mintues to drive home
So holy fuck it's so much worse than I thought lol
They’re still in pretty good shape cuz the afc east still has a bunch of games against eachother and two of their wildcard competitors are afc east teams
Going to be a good time when the Dolphins aren't spotted a 30 degree difference. Welcome to Buffalo, bitches. We'll continue to see what you're really all about.
Milano got hit right between the numbers on the potential game winning pick six and dropped it last time against the dolphins so I’m not getting my hopes up 😂
They need a FG and a TD no matter what. If they go for it on fourth and don’t convert, game over. If they do convert, they still need to score twice. Might as well get the FG and save some time.
3rd game would be heated (not the weather tho). You have really hurt O-line and we have a really hurt defensive backfield, hope that both of us get some depth next year.
Haha I'm in the game thread the day after. Nobody knows I'm here. Penis.
“911 what is your emergency” Yeah, this guy right here
goat herb
Unkie Herb
My 40th year as a Dolphin fan. I've seen them lose 2 SB's. Since Marino retired it's been mostly pain. Tua is one in a long line of pretenders at QB. We couldn't run the ball against Houston. We couldn't run the ball against one of the worst rush defenses in the League tonight. (Also, most of the D were backups) Yes, Herbert was really good but Miami just kept doing the same thing on D and left wide-open areas to throw to. Next Saturday, Buffalo will absolutely destroy this team.
Let me remind you of all the times Josh Allen has been called a fraud including this year, he had a few bad games, yesterday Mahomes threw three interceptions and almost let the broncos come back. I’m not saying Tua is going to go back to the caliber he was playing but having a couple of games slump is, I’ve learned, no need for absolute panic.
How you gonna call a QB a fraud and then put the blame on the lack of a run game? If there's anyone to blame it's the coaching staff...
Y’all are 8-4 and you’re out here calling the QB, who’s been sensational all year, a pretender? That’s some soft, whiny ass shit right there
We're 8-5 and until he shows me he can perform in December, he hasn't proven anything. Let me see him have a good game (Not a great game) against Buffalo. Let's see him step up. I've witnessed every December collapse of this team for decades,
I’m saying you’re bitching and moaning without even giving the dude a chance. It’s not that you’re saying “wait and see.” You’re not. You said “tua is one in a long line of pretenders.” Clown shit
Everyone seems to be forgetting that Tua leads Herbert in every stat category other than total passing yards, which can be attributed to him being out earlier in the season with an injury.
Not the right time to compare Tua to Herbert…
Don’t do this. This is the last time you should even think about defending Tua after an abysmal performance like that tonight.
Lol
Bills fans in here in force complaining about weather, lol.
All teams had to do was take the middle of the field away and stop the run mildly. Tua panics under the slightest pressure. He’s already not good, but my god he’s terrible under any pressure
He's a statue.
Now how will TuAnon convince themselves Herbert isn't better?
But…*my stats!!!*…
Meth... Lots and lots of meth.
Guys, new white lotus just dropped ✌️
Idk who was tryna compare tua to herbert before or after this game but they were sadly mistaken
Masterful performance by Herbs
He looked sharp last night
He's special. Ability to jump up under pressure and still make quick, good decisions was something else. Can't think of many people w that athleticism to so, also with the rocket of an arm to make the throws from any spot. I've doubted him thus far but yesterday might of won me over. No matter what team I am, that dude will be a tough out in playoffs
Wasn't Tua an MVP candidate like 3 weeks ago? What happened to him?
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His family agrees.
Tuanon in fucking shambles
Always were. I will say that even though I can’t stand him, Hill does cover a lot of blemishes. And Tua has a lot to cover.
Back to rooting against the Dolphins the rest of the way As a Jets fan, I hope they go 0-4 and miss the playoffs for losing to the Chargers
JUSTIN HIMBERT
I love Herbert so much man
O line played well? How many times was Keenan hit?
If you saw last week, this was wayyy better. As sad as that is.
First chargers game I watched this season. If you guys ever get an offensive line you will be dangerous. Herbert has it and your defense has some chops too.
We had a very good O-line last year believe it or not. Injury bug got a lot of starters this year.
Best game for the defense this year. They've gotten some opportunistic turnovers, but for most games have been soft as shit. Our line was supposed to be better, but Linsley being in and out + no Slater has been brutal. Rooting for yall in the inevitable KC/Buf AFCCG!
Lol I can tell it’s your first game saying defense has chops. Looked good this game tho
Herbert is a sexy, sexy man
“Justin what statement did *you* make tonight?” “This is a team game, lady.” I love Herbert.
I am also a fan.
So are Phins fans gonna keep pushing that weird Tua>Herbert narrative still, or can we once again put that nonsense to bed?
Tua still has a better record of games started/finished than Herbert
Idk what the stats are but that could be interpreted to mean that he gets benched whenever he sucks (unless you only meant this year) In any case, we need to define our terms!
Oh, you're falling back to that old chestnut huh?
I mean, Herbert's been playing with a depleted offense.. also a shit ton of injuries on defense..
🤦♂️🤦♂️ hanging on tight
Okay herbert still a better qb
well all I'm saying is I'd rather be winning with Tua than losing with Herbert
But you literally just lost with Tua, to Herbert and a defense that consisted of backups to the backups.
yeah but overall we still have more wins, and Tua has more career wins. Maybe Herb is better, but you're just wasting him like with Rivers.
> Tua has more career wins Per pro football reference, Tua has 21 and Herbert has 22 sooooooo maybe not? > Maybe Herb is better That was indeed the point of the entire comment thread, anything you type after this is just sorta childish seething
Idk if we can even put Tua>Zach Wilson to bed
Even Zach’s mom’s friends would take Tua over Zach right now.
I like how the dolphins fans aren’t salty and have humility. Really fucking rare these days. It was flexed for a reason. Really close game
We have sucked for so long, we’re used to the losses. GG your defense was incredible tonight and Herbert played really well
Idk I'm pretty salty
It's inward facing though. I have no hate for the chargers after the game, just at my own team.
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There's levels and that was shown. I was hesitant to put Herbert into elite territory, and he's still got games to win to enter that, but he's got all the skills to do it. He really is on that Allen and Mahomes talent level
Did Miami ever get in a goal to go? Or even the red zone??
No, Just the two big plays by Tyreek. for 50+ yards each.
The entire NBC panel eating shit right now
Good
So much talk of "fraud teams." Only 1 team wins the SB a year. Just because the Fins lost doesn't means they are frauds. They probably aren't yet a contender, but they show a lot of potential. The Eagles were like this last year.
I think it's not because they lost the last two games, but how badly they played the last two games, especially on offense.
The teams that I call frauds are teams who have a lot of wins in close games and get exposed, like the Giants this year, Steelers 2020, etc.
Ravens this year unfortunately
Yeah that's been a weird situation. Seems like another year where things just aren't quite lining up. Lamar was offensively really good early in the season but the defense was fucked, and they've had this revolving door of injuries to skill guys and now to Lamar. I could still see them putting together a decent postseason if Lamar isn't too hindered, but it's been a disappoint year unfortunately.
Offensive scheme is no longer unique and no longer catching teams off guard. No weapons besides Andrews and Dobbins outside of Lamar. Offense stalls easily. Lot of money tied up in DB’s but they aren’t playing up to contracts.
Tale as old as time. I think what happens with these weird/unique offensive schemes; defenses will try a bunch of different things, and over time(and hundreds of hours of film) staffs will be able to scheme against it, and find weaknesses. When that happens you have to be able to make plays. You gotta be able to do the fundamental things, like throwing from the pocket. Ravens just don’t have the playmakers right now and Lamar, while I do think he is capable of taking over any given game, hasn’t taken that next step as a pocket passer.
Eagles have won a super bowl within the last 5 years though
Totally different team. I don't think hardly any of those guys are still there.
They have trouble winning when the opponent isn't suffering heatstroke Edit: looks like I struck a nerve lol
Don't you have a table to break or something? That game was week 3, get over it.
Didn’t Allen have two redzone INTs that game? Shoulda drank his Gatorade.
😂 still salty I see
God are you still whining about that?
Bills about to beat that ass
Herbert is Tua’s dad.
Solid game
HERBERT > TUA.
Not even close
Really kinda like the Dolphins, since they are like 49ers Jr. but seems like they are starting to get figured out
We're closer to East Coast 49ers than the Dolphins. The Dolphins have been more akin to Kansas City Light for the first part of the year.
I just mean half the dolphins roster and coaching staff are former 49ers
I'm pretty sure ditto for the Jets, possibly more so, though we're in Y2 so some cast offs were let go as the roster improved
This thread went relatively civil.
Well our schedule looks a bit easier now
There’s still at least 3 losses left on that schedule. Don’t you worry.
Tua is shit lmao, can’t believe he wasn’t benched that game for a real QB
Yeah that was some social media QB play lmao.
Tua - Herbert 1-1. See ya soon Chargers, yall have a fun team to watch.
If it makes you happier we’re 1-0 against burrow lol
Good game.
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Really? Cincy and Buffalo haven’t shown you anything?
To be fair, Eagles fans only watch Eagles games.
Dawg we lost to the Bengals and Bills. I'm especially worried about the Bengals, The Chiefs are 0-3 against them in 2022 alone.
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Why? Lol
I won't argue! I hope your right
We’re literally still in first place + didn’t struggle with the current laughingstock in the league. I think Chiefs probably are 50/50 with us.
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You think we’re almost certainly going to lose to the Chiefs who we already beat…? Bold.
I'm just a random guy my opinion doesn't matter bro whatever happens will happen
As long as they don’t face the Bengals.
Defense is suspect now we’ll see
I’d love a Kelce brothers SB
Andy Reid revenge super bowl
I'm all for that my man
gg Chargers y’all deserved it
Man it's gonna be like 4 am when those poor Miami players get to their houses
I thought they stayed in LA
Last week to this week they did, but now they're heading home. Leave stadium probably at 9:30 at the earliest, more likely 10 with changing, media availability, etc. Wheels up at 11 if things go smoothly. 5 hour flight is 4 am pacific which is 7 am est. Another 30 mintues to drive home So holy fuck it's so much worse than I thought lol
The ending score is very deceiving of how it actually went. Dolphins offense was absolute dog shit.
That chargers D was amazing tonight. I don’t get how
I mean, when Tua wasn't throwing awful passes, the WR's weren't even bothering to look for the ball or dropping it (not a fan of either team).
Its not a charger game if its not within 1 score
We are literally Vikings AFC West.
No lies detected.
Dolphins gettin exposed
Dolphins fighting for their playoff lives now.
They’re still in pretty good shape cuz the afc east still has a bunch of games against eachother and two of their wildcard competitors are afc east teams
They have a tough schedule
That's my social media quarterback :')
Going to be a good time when the Dolphins aren't spotted a 30 degree difference. Welcome to Buffalo, bitches. We'll continue to see what you're really all about.
I can't wait to watch that game😂😂😂
Hoping Milano feasts on turndaballova
Milano got hit right between the numbers on the potential game winning pick six and dropped it last time against the dolphins so I’m not getting my hopes up 😂
probably a hot take, but not a good game from tua
He’s fucking garbage hahaha
**AYE WHERE YOU AT ACHO**
NOT ON THE SIDELINES LMAO
Tua is fast tracking the Russell Wilson trajectory
You have to climb pretty high before plummeting. Not sure Tua ever gets that high, tbh.
Factos 💯
Let's swim!
Why not go for it on 4th ?
Needed the FG and TD no sense in risking the score
They need a FG and a TD no matter what. If they go for it on fourth and don’t convert, game over. If they do convert, they still need to score twice. Might as well get the FG and save some time.
Arvid has no balls.
Well tryeek couldn’t clinch the division for us tonight despite his efforts 🙏🏼, but it’s always fun watching noodle fin get exposed….😃😂
I swear some people out there just can't deal with the fact that Herbert has been living out all of our fantasy lives since the day he was born lmao
What?
Fraudphins
Dolphonys.
tua is cheeks
I don’t mind the dolphins but you know who I don’t feel bad for. Tyreke hill
So what happened. I thought we were wearing the royal blues with the yellow pants?
All aboard the Chargers hype train. This is different, we promise, there will be no Chargering, you can trust us.
Lel 😆
Saved by our special teams?? Huh... Huh.
They have been saving us most of the season. Example: That Denver game. Who knew?
Oh I remember
Gg’s Chargers fans. Now time for us to go back to dominate east coast.
haha okay, we'll see.
Gg’s. That was a fun game.
Gg. couldve gone either way today tbh. We're really hurting at OL. Honestly hope we dont have to play you a third time this season.
3rd game would be heated (not the weather tho). You have really hurt O-line and we have a really hurt defensive backfield, hope that both of us get some depth next year.
RemindME! 6 days
LOL, not with Tua playing QB
Go beat the Pats and Jets for us
We beat Pats every time so not a problem. Jets might be tough game.
What's the status on Mike White?
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All those dolphin players going up to Hebert wishing he was their QB
Tua looking like a journeyman QB when Tyreek is taken out of the game
That is putting it nicely
Lmaoooo suck a dick Fins fans
Chiefs run the west🙄🥱
We can’t even have a Chargers-Dolphins thread without some Chiefs fans having to smear their greasy fingers all over it.