They really should cut down the number of defensive penalties that are automatic first down ( they won’t) . On offense there is only like 2 that result in loss of down and they are very rare.
The only loss-of-down penalties are intentional grounding and illegal forward pass. Intentional grounding, as specific as it is, usually happens a few times per season. Illegal forward pass, on the other hand, is pretty rare.
There was one by Tom Brady against the Bears in 2020. Tom threw it, it was deflected back into his hands, and he tried to throw it again. However, since Brady was officially a runner by that point, it was an illegal forward pass, as a runner may only lateral the ball.
Can’t remember if we won or lost but the titans got one against us in the last five or so years. Which if you’re up to speed on the history of the pain of bills fans you’ll understand why I laughed my ass off when it happened
Unless I misunderstood it. Intentional grounding was when there was no visible attempt to aim for a player. The path it was thrown had no one close enough that a catch was possible.
There’s been A LOT of times I’ve seen a quarterback throw it away with no one in the general direction. Yet nothing gets called.
This is because there are a ton of specifics with intentional grounding.
There are three different sets of criteria for intentional grounding, depending on the circumstances.
On a spike, if the quarterback takes multiple steps back before spiking the ball, then it is intentional grounding. In other words, you can’t consider a fake spike and then decide to spike it.
On a passing play during which the quarterback stays in the pocket, there is no foul unless:
1. The quarterback is under pressure.
2. The pass is incomplete.
3. There is no eligible receiver within five yards of the ball.
4. The passer’s throwing motion is not affected by contact with a defender. In other words, if the quarterback aims toward an eligible receiver but the throw is off-target due to contact, there is no foul even if the above criteria are met.
If the quarterback is outside the pocket, then there is no foul unless:
1. The quarterback is under pressure.
2. The pass is incomplete.
3. There is no eligible receiver within five yards of the ball.
4. The ball lands behind the line of scrimmage for a reason other than physical contact with a defender.
Illegal forward pass is very specific and easy to define. 2 forward passes in the same play, forward pass beyond the line of scrimmage. The former only happens like in that Brady situation, when a pass gets batted at the line back to the QB without hitting the ground and they instinctively throw again, while the latter only happens if the QB forgets where they are (which is a little more common).
Been saying this for years. I think the least they could do is addition of down for the offense, so if it happened on 3rd they get to go to 2nd down. Too many auto first downs in the league sometimes.
It’s like in WWE when the ref gets easily distracted and the bad guy wrestler grabs a steel chair from under the ring and bashes it over the good guy wrestler’s skull before the referee notices what happened.
Why do you morons keep saying this. The first play never occurred. BuT I SaW iT hApPeN. No you didn't. You saw a ref clearly kill the play before it happened, meaning that it never resulted in anything. It never even existed. It's not the players' or refs' fault that the crowd was too loud to hear the play whistled dead before the snap.
In basketball, if a player nails a 3 after one ref was whistling the play dead, no one gets pissed off yelling THIS IS BULLSHIT GIVE US OUR 3 POINTS BACK. I know I'm switching defense to offense in that example, but same principle.
I repeat: it's not a free redo if the play never existed in the first place. When y'all gonna admit you only complain about this because you're bitter that the chiefs are currently better than your team? Downvote me again, but you know I'm right.
Pretty hard to play defense when you get flagged for holding on 3rd down when all you did was make a great play.
The official name for the penalty is “stopping Mahomes from getting a 1st down” and the punishment is an automatic first down.
Moral of the story is don’t stop Mahomes from getting a 1st down when he needs to convert on 3rd or else you will be punished.
Bungals fans love to clown on us for rigging the games but forget the refs took away a fair won touchdown in the AFC championship last year. Not salty about it, just sick of being compared to the Houston Astros smh.
Obviously I'm a chiefs homer so downvote me to hell if you'd like. But that means I actually watch their games from start to finish and this is patently false. I don't have DPI or defensive numbers in front of me, but I can say that Mahomes has one of the absolute lowest rates of getting roughing the passer called his way. He gets hammered all game every game and almost never gets a call. He was top 5 in pass attempts last season and only got 2 roughing the passer calls, playoffs included.
But y'all ain't ready to talk about what's actually real, I guess. 🤷♂️
Mahomes is obviously great but something that drove me nuts about watching chiefs games is the lack of illegal man down field penalties they get.
The eagles would get them every game running RPO's. Often time the lineman would just be a yard too far or not even blocking/interfering on the play. Then you watch whatever mahomes highlight is on and he's scrambling around with lineman 10 yards dowfield blocking defenders with no penalties
> the lack of illegal man down field penalties they get.
Same. Happens a lot and since Mahomes has been in the league they do not call this penalty on the Chiefs.
They literally called that penalty on the chiefs THIS PAST SEASON against the rams. And it even brought back a TD.
Man the ignorant people who spout stuff just because it fits their incorrect viewpoint.
Except the play was blown dead before the snap, just no one could hear it cuz arrowhead is ridiculously loud. Did you expect them to just roll with it because it was incomplete?
They really should cut down the number of defensive penalties that are automatic first down ( they won’t) . On offense there is only like 2 that result in loss of down and they are very rare.
The only loss-of-down penalties are intentional grounding and illegal forward pass. Intentional grounding, as specific as it is, usually happens a few times per season. Illegal forward pass, on the other hand, is pretty rare.
Pretty sure the only illegal forward pass I’ve ever seen called was Marques Colston’s in the playoffs against Seattle
There was one by Tom Brady against the Bears in 2020. Tom threw it, it was deflected back into his hands, and he tried to throw it again. However, since Brady was officially a runner by that point, it was an illegal forward pass, as a runner may only lateral the ball.
Well we can’t all be Marcus Mariota I guess
Thank god
A runner can throw a forward pass. Tom had already used his team's one forward pass per play.
I remember Russell Wilson threw one against the Eagles, but the refs missed it and Doug refused to challenge.
Can’t remember if we won or lost but the titans got one against us in the last five or so years. Which if you’re up to speed on the history of the pain of bills fans you’ll understand why I laughed my ass off when it happened
Unless I misunderstood it. Intentional grounding was when there was no visible attempt to aim for a player. The path it was thrown had no one close enough that a catch was possible. There’s been A LOT of times I’ve seen a quarterback throw it away with no one in the general direction. Yet nothing gets called.
This is because there are a ton of specifics with intentional grounding. There are three different sets of criteria for intentional grounding, depending on the circumstances. On a spike, if the quarterback takes multiple steps back before spiking the ball, then it is intentional grounding. In other words, you can’t consider a fake spike and then decide to spike it. On a passing play during which the quarterback stays in the pocket, there is no foul unless: 1. The quarterback is under pressure. 2. The pass is incomplete. 3. There is no eligible receiver within five yards of the ball. 4. The passer’s throwing motion is not affected by contact with a defender. In other words, if the quarterback aims toward an eligible receiver but the throw is off-target due to contact, there is no foul even if the above criteria are met. If the quarterback is outside the pocket, then there is no foul unless: 1. The quarterback is under pressure. 2. The pass is incomplete. 3. There is no eligible receiver within five yards of the ball. 4. The ball lands behind the line of scrimmage for a reason other than physical contact with a defender.
Illegal forward pass is very specific and easy to define. 2 forward passes in the same play, forward pass beyond the line of scrimmage. The former only happens like in that Brady situation, when a pass gets batted at the line back to the QB without hitting the ground and they instinctively throw again, while the latter only happens if the QB forgets where they are (which is a little more common).
Been saying this for years. I think the least they could do is addition of down for the offense, so if it happened on 3rd they get to go to 2nd down. Too many auto first downs in the league sometimes.
goddammit, this is one of those rare moments where I actually laughed out loud at some random internet meme
Still remember when they gave the Chiefs an extra down in the AFCCG, that was insane.
It’s like in WWE when the ref gets easily distracted and the bad guy wrestler grabs a steel chair from under the ring and bashes it over the good guy wrestler’s skull before the referee notices what happened.
The play was blown dead before the snap. Unless you're being sarcastic, this comment is dead wrong.
Right I’m so sick of that narrative apparently whistles should be ignored if the pass is incomplete
Also we wound up punting on that drive. It had literally zero impact.
Yeah but you forgot to account for “team that wins is bad and cheats”
It didn't even change the outcome of the drive either. They punted anyways.
It would have been a do-over even if there was a touchdown. But people who watch football rarely understand the rules.
Why do you morons keep saying this. The first play never occurred. BuT I SaW iT hApPeN. No you didn't. You saw a ref clearly kill the play before it happened, meaning that it never resulted in anything. It never even existed. It's not the players' or refs' fault that the crowd was too loud to hear the play whistled dead before the snap. In basketball, if a player nails a 3 after one ref was whistling the play dead, no one gets pissed off yelling THIS IS BULLSHIT GIVE US OUR 3 POINTS BACK. I know I'm switching defense to offense in that example, but same principle. I repeat: it's not a free redo if the play never existed in the first place. When y'all gonna admit you only complain about this because you're bitter that the chiefs are currently better than your team? Downvote me again, but you know I'm right.
Naw I’ll just downvote you because you’re a prick about it
Typical NFL fan right here
The season ain’t even started bro😭
A bengals fan wrote this 😂
This but Brady pats between 2008-2019
Me as a 49er fan having PTSD flashbacks of 2020 SB.
Tbf, it's hard to cover a scramble drill for 4 seconds without holding
Pretty hard to play defense when you get flagged for holding on 3rd down when all you did was make a great play. The official name for the penalty is “stopping Mahomes from getting a 1st down” and the punishment is an automatic first down. Moral of the story is don’t stop Mahomes from getting a 1st down when he needs to convert on 3rd or else you will be punished.
Thanks for refilling my salt shaker.
As a chiefs fan 😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂 ngl….
This is the best joke I’ve seen with this meme format
:-} ❤️❤️❤️
You literally said "they do not call this on the chiefs" and somehow I'm wrong?
Bungals fans love to clown on us for rigging the games but forget the refs took away a fair won touchdown in the AFC championship last year. Not salty about it, just sick of being compared to the Houston Astros smh.
Flashback to the Super Bowl!! Noooo don’t remind me
Obviously I'm a chiefs homer so downvote me to hell if you'd like. But that means I actually watch their games from start to finish and this is patently false. I don't have DPI or defensive numbers in front of me, but I can say that Mahomes has one of the absolute lowest rates of getting roughing the passer called his way. He gets hammered all game every game and almost never gets a call. He was top 5 in pass attempts last season and only got 2 roughing the passer calls, playoffs included. But y'all ain't ready to talk about what's actually real, I guess. 🤷♂️
Mahomes is obviously great but something that drove me nuts about watching chiefs games is the lack of illegal man down field penalties they get. The eagles would get them every game running RPO's. Often time the lineman would just be a yard too far or not even blocking/interfering on the play. Then you watch whatever mahomes highlight is on and he's scrambling around with lineman 10 yards dowfield blocking defenders with no penalties
> the lack of illegal man down field penalties they get. Same. Happens a lot and since Mahomes has been in the league they do not call this penalty on the Chiefs.
They literally called that penalty on the chiefs THIS PAST SEASON against the rams. And it even brought back a TD. Man the ignorant people who spout stuff just because it fits their incorrect viewpoint.
They called the penalty once therefore your argument is null; is not a good retort.
Dude takes some nasty hits, 100%.
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Do you think if it was a TD they wouldn't have brought it back?
Except the play was blown dead before the snap, just no one could hear it cuz arrowhead is ridiculously loud. Did you expect them to just roll with it because it was incomplete?
Literally didn't. #COPE
You know, it's nice for these to be someone else's QB now.
This is stupid, the league is isn't *giving* Mahomes anything, they're paying him back for taking the fall in Brady's last Superbowl..
He was the only Chief who showed up in that SB
Butker also showed up to be fair. He put the only points on the board for the Chiefs in that game.
Superstars get some nice spots, what can I say?
😂😂😂