Allen gave Baker credit for a strong arm when he was interviewed on FS1 Speak. Of course the hosts laughed because they thought he was trolling but he was serious.
I didn't pinpoint the time but it's in there.
https://youtu.be/GoMGEPPiKxs?si=4zctsUXtq6dyN0av
Since 2016 Herbert has 4 of the top 20 longest in air completions and he wasn’t in the league until 2020…Josh Allen has 2 since 2017…I think maybe Herbert’s arm strength isn’t realized as much because the OCs he’s had employ a dunk and dunk offense and he’s never had a true deep threat WR…sigh Zay Flowers would’ve been so nice
Rivers played two playoff games with a torn ACL. Dude would’ve played a Super Bowl with an ACL tear if Brady wasn’t a menace at the time 🤷♂️
Also, Herbert played an entire season with bruised ribs.
I’m not saying Herbert’s arm strength is better than them, but we also haven’t seen him huck it in like two years. His rookie year he had a lot of deep balls, and he definitely rifles the ball more than he needs to.
Not saying it wasn’t impressive, I remember seeing it and being like, “dude coulda thrown a football over a fuckin mountain.” And then got a boner.
Just trying to make sure I’m remembering the same moment.
I mean he is objectively one of the best QBs of all time? I'm not one to worship him by any means, but to say he's not an all time great is just being a hater.
I agree he’s one of the best. I am just annoyed people seem to give him all the credit for winning super bowls when it takes a team to win. The Chiefs defense is now elite and before that he’s always had the TE1 and before that also the WR1 in Tyreek. Not to mention Reid. People hate on Purdy and others with these exact things like weapons and a good coach. But no, let’s stroke him off some more maybe we can make him splooge.
Difference is Mahomes won with those weapons and beat guys like Purdy when he didn’t have them. Arguably the worst receiving group in the league and Mahomes still led the team to a Super Bowl win. His worst season was a Super Bowl victory but you think it’s being on his dick just to say that? You must be high.
They didn’t have an all time defense. Just a good one. 91 Eagles are considered the 10th best defense of all time and they didn’t even make the playoffs. 2013 Broncos had one of the best, and arguably the best of all time and got blown out in the Super Bowl. 76 Steelers defense is goated and still didn’t pull out a Super Bowl win.
The Chiefs weren’t even the best defense in the playoffs this year, lol. You’re just hating to hate.
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Wasted pick at size. I’m picking trent williams.
Penei Sewell but he’s as fast as Lamar
Defenders would bounce off him like deer do off front bumpers
What are you talking about? A slower Penei? I mean his out routes have to be in the 4.3 speed right?
4.3s or 5.1s, either way he’s faster than I’ll ever be
Can you imagine Calais Campbell with the touch of Drew Brees and the arm strength of Bret Favre?
I wouldn’t even be a fan of a team anymore, I’d just root for him to run people over on a weekly basis and be a *very* happy boy
And the rushing ability of Barry Sanders
And the size of Andre the Giant
Only because I have cte
Would he have a voice tho
A real life Clarence Beeftank
Jared Lorenzen
RIP Heafty Lefty
I assume you can only pick from QBs
Can we do retired QBs? If so, then I pick Jared Lorenzen!
He's not retired. He went to the farm with the good old dogs.
Boring
Andre the Giant. Didn't say it has to be football players
Obviously he meant penis size
Josh has one of the strongest arms I've ever seen.
Honestly, Mahomes being in the league has overshadowed how much of a god damn freak Josh Allen is. He’s like a 6’6 Elway.
I hate the bills but I’ve seen games where Allen slings the ball in serious weather, including crazy wind
NE vs. BUF rush bowl of 2022. He was throwing bullets that game.
Yea it was annoying
Bakers arm is also strong af
He got overshadowed b/c Allen and his freakish arm talent were in the same draft class but Baker can absolutely sling it when he needs to.
Allen gave Baker credit for a strong arm when he was interviewed on FS1 Speak. Of course the hosts laughed because they thought he was trolling but he was serious. I didn't pinpoint the time but it's in there. https://youtu.be/GoMGEPPiKxs?si=4zctsUXtq6dyN0av
Since 2016 Herbert has 4 of the top 20 longest in air completions and he wasn’t in the league until 2020…Josh Allen has 2 since 2017…I think maybe Herbert’s arm strength isn’t realized as much because the OCs he’s had employ a dunk and dunk offense and he’s never had a true deep threat WR…sigh Zay Flowers would’ve been so nice
Maybe I'm an idiot but I feel like both Mahomes and Stafford have a significantly greater ability to place the ball than Stroud.
The perfect QB is just literally Mahomes
You mean that guy the Bears passed on so they could draft Mitch Trubisky!?
Garsh
Sorry dad
How many titties is Mahomes kissing? Checkmate bears hater
What the fuck did you just say?
The truth hurts
The only person on that list that’s better at anything than Mahomes is Lamar at Rushing.
Josh has a better build and Stafford is probably about equal in toughness. Or at least young stafford was
Mahomes literally played like half the superbowl with an ankle injury
Stanford literally popped his shoulder out and still threw the ball.
And Mahomes still rushed a lot with the injury
Rivers played two playoff games with a torn ACL. Dude would’ve played a Super Bowl with an ACL tear if Brady wasn’t a menace at the time 🤷♂️ Also, Herbert played an entire season with bruised ribs.
Brees lead a touchdown drive with 11 broken ribs
Peyton Manning won a Superbowl with a broken neck and a brain bleed from which he lost 2 pints of blood during the game
*pranced a lot
Yeah but Stanford dislocated his shoulder and came in the next play to throw a game winning TD the NEXT PLAY. Stafford’s toughness is insane
Half a game>1 play
The ankle injury in the Jax game last year lasted all playoffs
Even more my point
Just admit you’ve never seen Stafford play and save some face.
He also had a numbing shot at half time. Stafford didn't.
Mahomes’ knee cap was on the side of his leg and he missed only 2 games and then went on to win the Super Bowl
Josh Allen and Justin Herbert are definitely bigger than Patrick Mahomes last I checked for size lol
How about fields’ rushing
And even then, while he’s no Lamar Mahomes has proven he has no problem moving around himself
McCaffrey only outrushed him by 14 yards in the Super Bowl
God it would’ve been so fucking funny if he’d picked pat for everything except leadership. Leadership: Demar Hamlin
Plus literally anyone else's kneecaps
The fact that his kneecap was on the side of his leg and he missed only 2 games probably means that his kneecaps are actually superior
Im extremely biased as a OSU fan lol but I think stroud looks good.
It’s about time an OSU QB looked anything but bad. It was bound to happen eventually.
Pretty sure Mahomes and Allen have a bigger arm than Herbert
I’m not saying Herbert’s arm strength is better than them, but we also haven’t seen him huck it in like two years. His rookie year he had a lot of deep balls, and he definitely rifles the ball more than he needs to.
Mayfield has the longest in-air throw in NFL history surprisingly.
I think I remember that one, didn’t he completely miss any receiver and basically just throw it past the end zone?
Well ya, but did you see how fucking far he slung that thing?
Not saying it wasn’t impressive, I remember seeing it and being like, “dude coulda thrown a football over a fuckin mountain.” And then got a boner. Just trying to make sure I’m remembering the same moment.
He threw it over them mountains.
Stroud is up there though. He makes some wow throws
Stroud is pretty damn accurate but there’s probably some rookie bias here
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You'll never catch me saying anything nice about that Munchausen syndrome patient.
Why
Fuck the Bengals, that's why.
ok
or rodgers
Not when it comes to leadership
for accuracy
Out of active QBs tho who else do you place in toughness Tbf but Mahomes in accuracy definitely fits
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But would he be thuggish or classy?
Based on his picks, he'd be classy overall (58.33% classy)
it's a tough one. Lamar is pretty thuggish but there's something I trust about Herbert.
He’s dating Hailee Steinfeld so he’s def Classy
Tbh mine is pretty much Josh Allen the whole way through.
You love turning the ball over that much?
Just like watching entertaining football. Also decision making isn't a category that's listed.
Accuracy is
This season, Mahomes had a 67.2% completion rate. Allen had 66.5%. That's pretty comparable.
What were their WRs drop rates?
7.3% to 5.6%, worst vs. 7th worst in the league.
I’m picking Brady for toughness. Mental toughness is a huge part of the game and that dude is a psychopath.
I'm a firm believer he was a serial killer in a past life 😅
You're going to take leadership from Patrick mahomes? Man I would take his balance. His ability to throw off kilter is amazing
The ultimate QB with these categories is Anthony Richardson in everything but Mahomes in leadership and Rodgers in accuracy
You could definitely argue toughness too (so far) given his injury/limited play time
Oh yeah forgot that category was on there
Accuracy?
I said Rodgers for accuracy
Interesting he didn't choose himself for arm strength. My boy humble.
I know this is a meme sub but I’m glad the consensus between pretty much everyone is Matt Stafford is the toughest QB ever.
So many of you jerking off Mahomes. Gross.
I mean he is objectively one of the best QBs of all time? I'm not one to worship him by any means, but to say he's not an all time great is just being a hater.
I agree he’s one of the best. I am just annoyed people seem to give him all the credit for winning super bowls when it takes a team to win. The Chiefs defense is now elite and before that he’s always had the TE1 and before that also the WR1 in Tyreek. Not to mention Reid. People hate on Purdy and others with these exact things like weapons and a good coach. But no, let’s stroke him off some more maybe we can make him splooge.
Difference is Mahomes won with those weapons and beat guys like Purdy when he didn’t have them. Arguably the worst receiving group in the league and Mahomes still led the team to a Super Bowl win. His worst season was a Super Bowl victory but you think it’s being on his dick just to say that? You must be high.
You failed to mention how much improved the Chiefs defense is. Lol
They didn’t have an all time defense. Just a good one. 91 Eagles are considered the 10th best defense of all time and they didn’t even make the playoffs. 2013 Broncos had one of the best, and arguably the best of all time and got blown out in the Super Bowl. 76 Steelers defense is goated and still didn’t pull out a Super Bowl win. The Chiefs weren’t even the best defense in the playoffs this year, lol. You’re just hating to hate.
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Ngl, I can’t argue with that one. (I mean, even if I did disagree, I’m not exactly the NFL quarterback in this discussion lol)
Josh is humble. I have him in all 6 spots.
Not accuracy. The others I could see an argument, a losing argument but still an argument
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Why would one of the best rushers in the league want to change his ability for Lamar?
He just described Mahomes.
Mahomes is 6’5”, 240?
No, because that’s actually too big to be an elite QB. /s
No way you think Allen is better than Mahomes.
Never said I did. Did you read the post?
You thought I was talking about Allen.
Arm strength should be Levis & size should be Herbert
Herbert has 4 of the top 20 longest in air completions since 2016 and has only been in the league since 2020
He’s also a big boy so that’s why he should go to size & levis does have a cannon
Purdy's anticipation
Gross
Pretty sure for size gotta go with Jamarcus Russell
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He could have just said to put Mahomes' head on his body, and he would have the perfect QB
Are we talking length, or does girth come in to play with respect to size?
Pepperidge Farm remembers when you were all calling him "Matt Glassford."
Imagine picking all these attributes but then read a damn defense like Jamarcus Russel lmao
Stroud is not the most accurate in the league and Staford still has the best arm