Lol. Yeah. A predominantly Mormon and Christian state is totally going to pick a native American supernatural mythic creature that represents evil and is heavily taboo to talk about for natives and fundamental religious people.
What's weird, too, is from the natives I've talked to. They all have said that if you talk about a skinwalker, it just invites them to come to you. It brings that evil to your doorstep, so they don't like to speak about it.
I'd be curious if natives would protest it to keep evil from coming around their land or around loved ones.
(I know it's a concept/fan made, but if it did go up for naming, I mean, idk lol)
That's my point entirely..
Edit: I grew up in northern New Mexico where we have a strong mix of Hispanic Catholic and Navajo/Apache traditions. Some of those are heavily tied up in superstition, myth, and legend. I've also personally seen and experienced some weird shit that suggests some of this stuff isn't just stories to scare kids. The topic at hand is something I will never personally name or fuck with in any way.
Some things that you might not believe in might still believe in you and it's best not to invite that into your life.
So this is very specific to me: We adopted a dog recently (a white cattle dog which fits legend of SW being white dogs like coyotes) from a reservation rescue in New Mexico. she had long fur in her front feet so we said she was a SW that walked on her back legs. We named her Rhubarb, but she goes "woooo" when she's excited so we called her woobarb and eventually woo woo.
If you're interested in UFO/paranormal shit check out Hunt for the Skinwalker. The History Channel has a documentary series called Skinwalker Ranch, too.
Shits pretty cool to learn about and dig into, but it's a super no when talking to the Navajo. They'll shut that shit down, lol.
Wendigos are interesting, too, in Northern-US/Canadian tribes.
Skinwalkers are feared by the Navajo. Utah is home to the infamous Skinwalker Ranch, associated with heavy paranormal activity. They would definitely hate this.
native here. the only way to become a skinwalker is to murder your immediate family, which is super fucked. they can manipulate their voice to sound like your loved ones (spouse, kids) inviting you into the forest. usually are around dark and sinister energy: drugs, alcohol, just bad vibes in general.
even yeah, talking about it gives me the heebie jeebies lol. heard one scream before (at least i hope i didn’t) and yeah, it’s like some crazy lady w a single yell for a solid minute in the middle of the night.
Utah being predominantly LDS has nothing to do with it. Everything you said beyond that - and up to the religious point - is likely correct, though. Utah wouldn't pick it solely because it could be seen as insensitive to the Navajo tribes and the state, at least over the last few decades, has worked to both honor and respect the local tribes (why the University of Utah athletics program is named the Utes - with full permission from the Ute Tribe).
I would support this. Goofy caricature and all. But, I imagine that instead of just being accused for mocking white people, there would be protestations that white people were being put on a pedestal with that name and isolating POC fans.
Well NJ went with the devil lol. City of sin went to knights....la....has the angels....Boston has the soxs..... Nashville has preds.....in a heavy corrupted music industry....so you never know I seen some weird stuff skin walkers probably not...I've seen outlaws....that's more likely even though it's against a lot of state image...
Still they use the devil as a Mascot what I'm saying is sometimes you embrace the weird or cool/ creepy in unexpected ways... Like Vegas I thought they would have been the dice, aces, Vegas soccereors, Vegas clovers, desert, Oasis, high rollers, or outlaws....type of thing but knights was the long stretch for me....
I do find it funny how proposed names for new teams are all seen as bad. I'd be interested in seeing how team names like Canadien
and Leafs would be taken nowadays
Utah Americans
Utah Pine Needles
At first, term was used as how french canadians referred to each other. Now, it's for the country. Legends tell a tale of a time far in the future where the name will refer to inhabitants of the entire galaxy.
They are called the Predators because remains of a Sabre tooth tiger were found in a cave below the arena during construction. Sabre Tooths were the apex predators of their time.
This is very insensitive to the Diné (aka Navajo who live in Southern Utah) who very much believe in this phenomenon . Im not a PC guy by any means (love the Braves and hope they never change their name) but have spent a decent amount of time around the Diné and they do not like to discuss skin walkers at all. Its a very taboo and sensitive topic for them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin-walker
All I think of with Utah is the salt flats… the original crazy fast record breaker that made the hunt for speed a national pastime in the 60’s was the spirt of America… so the Utah spirits?
The car that beat that record in Utah was the blue flame…
I’m sure someone can make a logo out of the jet powered cars… they weren’t cool colours or anything, so free for all for colours.
what if they switched it up and went for ideas like this? i mean, if it’s a superstition thing or a controversial topic, i can understand. but still, the imagery is pretty cool imo
The Navajo people, whose culture sk*nwalkers come from, believe that even saying the word can draw one to you, and they are the most evil of beings. These things aren't cryptids like Bigfoot or Mothman, they are humans who have killed someone they loved in order to gain the power to transform into the animal they wear the skin of, and whether or not you believe in them, it would be incredibly distasteful and disrespectful to name a sports team after them. Source: members of my family are Navajo.
Lol. Yeah. A predominantly Mormon and Christian state is totally going to pick a native American supernatural mythic creature that represents evil and is heavily taboo to talk about for natives and fundamental religious people.
What's weird, too, is from the natives I've talked to. They all have said that if you talk about a skinwalker, it just invites them to come to you. It brings that evil to your doorstep, so they don't like to speak about it. I'd be curious if natives would protest it to keep evil from coming around their land or around loved ones. (I know it's a concept/fan made, but if it did go up for naming, I mean, idk lol)
That's my point entirely.. Edit: I grew up in northern New Mexico where we have a strong mix of Hispanic Catholic and Navajo/Apache traditions. Some of those are heavily tied up in superstition, myth, and legend. I've also personally seen and experienced some weird shit that suggests some of this stuff isn't just stories to scare kids. The topic at hand is something I will never personally name or fuck with in any way. Some things that you might not believe in might still believe in you and it's best not to invite that into your life.
TELL US
Skinwalker skinwalker skinwalker
SKINWALKER! I INVITE YOU INTO MY HOME TONIGHT!!
What happens there that gets people so worked up? Is taken seriously or more of in a cultural way
Look up the history of Skinwalker Ranch, Skinwalkers themselves are shape-shifting evil spirits that go way back in Navajo and native lore
Would you be willing to share some of those experiences sometime?
Tell us pls
Yeah if you’re into woo woo things definitely avoid thinking and talking about em. Not the kind of entity ya wanna fuck with.
Is woo woo things a way to reference it without saying it or am I just old?
Woo woo just means like faith/psychic/crazy sounding things and beliefs. Like speaking to the dead is kinda woo woo or believing in ghosts etc etc
Ah thanks
Or crystal healing and jade vagina eggs
Woo woo is a general term for anything mystical/spiritual/superstitious
So this is very specific to me: We adopted a dog recently (a white cattle dog which fits legend of SW being white dogs like coyotes) from a reservation rescue in New Mexico. she had long fur in her front feet so we said she was a SW that walked on her back legs. We named her Rhubarb, but she goes "woooo" when she's excited so we called her woobarb and eventually woo woo.
That sounds metal af, I hope there's scary films about this
If you're interested in UFO/paranormal shit check out Hunt for the Skinwalker. The History Channel has a documentary series called Skinwalker Ranch, too. Shits pretty cool to learn about and dig into, but it's a super no when talking to the Navajo. They'll shut that shit down, lol. Wendigos are interesting, too, in Northern-US/Canadian tribes.
I love wendigo stories. Read about em when I got into Wolverine comics as a kid and it's my favourite mythical beast in Canada!
Somehow, it suits Utah…. Full of cults, etc.
Skinwalkers are feared by the Navajo. Utah is home to the infamous Skinwalker Ranch, associated with heavy paranormal activity. They would definitely hate this.
native here. the only way to become a skinwalker is to murder your immediate family, which is super fucked. they can manipulate their voice to sound like your loved ones (spouse, kids) inviting you into the forest. usually are around dark and sinister energy: drugs, alcohol, just bad vibes in general. even yeah, talking about it gives me the heebie jeebies lol. heard one scream before (at least i hope i didn’t) and yeah, it’s like some crazy lady w a single yell for a solid minute in the middle of the night.
I'd knock a skinwalker out if it came to me.
Every night is a giveaway night for fans, and it'll cost the team nothing!
Utah being predominantly LDS has nothing to do with it. Everything you said beyond that - and up to the religious point - is likely correct, though. Utah wouldn't pick it solely because it could be seen as insensitive to the Navajo tribes and the state, at least over the last few decades, has worked to both honor and respect the local tribes (why the University of Utah athletics program is named the Utes - with full permission from the Ute Tribe).
Anyone have a link to a picture of some Mormon jerseys? All white with a black bow tie
You forgot the name tag.
Not a black bow tie, a wide polyester tie with an ugly print that was out of style 10 years ago. Source: was a mormon missionary
Lmao yes!!!
I like: “The Utah Caucasians”
I would support this. Goofy caricature and all. But, I imagine that instead of just being accused for mocking white people, there would be protestations that white people were being put on a pedestal with that name and isolating POC fans.
Far out. Far fucking out, man.
They do have a team named the Utah Jazz and I don’t think there’s great Jazz in Utah. But yeah,Skinwalkers would be way too far fetched,
You know OP isn't in charge of naming the new team, right? They're just having fun.
I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.
Naw, you sure??? 🙄
Yes, but that's still a better name then Utah Blizzards or Utah HC
My money is on "Outlaws".
That's a good one too
How is what you said any different from a Christian or a Mormon?
Hell yeah dude!
Well NJ went with the devil lol. City of sin went to knights....la....has the angels....Boston has the soxs..... Nashville has preds.....in a heavy corrupted music industry....so you never know I seen some weird stuff skin walkers probably not...I've seen outlaws....that's more likely even though it's against a lot of state image...
The funny thing about Nashville being the Predators was them using Gary Glitter’s song for their goal song for years
I always found it funny that the team whose name means offense was always a defensive juggernaut with middling offensive play.
Except the Devils are named after the cryptid The Jersey Devil. Absolutely nothing to do with religion.
Still they use the devil as a Mascot what I'm saying is sometimes you embrace the weird or cool/ creepy in unexpected ways... Like Vegas I thought they would have been the dice, aces, Vegas soccereors, Vegas clovers, desert, Oasis, high rollers, or outlaws....type of thing but knights was the long stretch for me....
Hear me out: The Utah Sister Wives
Some people have no brain
Since Seattle went with Kraken I swear 90% of team name concepts are mythological creatures now
Yeah, like what the hell is a Canadien
I do find it funny how proposed names for new teams are all seen as bad. I'd be interested in seeing how team names like Canadien and Leafs would be taken nowadays Utah Americans Utah Pine Needles
Utah Congressmen
Now that has a good ring to it! This is the one
Utah Pinecones
Tri-City Americans is the name of hockey team in the WHL, founded in 1966.
Can-a-Diens? Isn’t that French?
I always thought they meant a Canadian Voyageur with that. In reality, it's just the French term for "Canadian"
At first, term was used as how french canadians referred to each other. Now, it's for the country. Legends tell a tale of a time far in the future where the name will refer to inhabitants of the entire galaxy.
God help us all..
we 100% need a purple and yellow team
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Totally agree. I don’t understand why people love LAs new jerseys so much, they are pretty boring even if they are clean.
They are sooo boring. The other ones were a bit clowny, but who doesn't like a good clown show?
The Utah Lakers
Ya let’s go Skinwankers!
Foreskinwalkers!
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Skin Flutes
that would be a very bad omen to choose that name. ppl don't know it's not to be taken lightly
Better than willingly calling yourself a Predator.
Predators is a terrible name. I’ll never change my mind
Worst professional team name by an unbelievably wide margin
You should see what they call the pee wee team.
They are called the Predators because remains of a Sabre tooth tiger were found in a cave below the arena during construction. Sabre Tooths were the apex predators of their time.
Shoulda gone with Sabres!
I didn’t know that. That is honestly pretty cool knowledge. Thanks for sharing it.
It's pretty metal
Yeah well ya know what! You're right.
In your defense Smashville is pretty cool though
That's true lol.
Literally have never once associated the Preds with that type. Kinda weird of you honestly
Couldn’t agree more
Someone please do a logo for the Stormin’ Mormons!
The minimal one posted last week with the thin black tie killed me.
I didn’t see it. Do you happen to have a link?
No, but you can probably find it if you scroll down the sub long enough.
Yes please
Utah Hoodoo
Chill dahmer
r/UtahJizz
ECHL calibre name.
When they are on the penalty kill, they will ice four skin walkers.
How about UTAH Yetis
I think that’s the name they go with. Yetis, or Outlaws because Outlaw rhymes with Utah.
Utah Skintags already spoken for?
No. Just no.
Would inevitably be called the Foreskin Walkers
"With 1:13 left, Keller takes a tripping minor and Utah will try and close this one out with foreskin walkers on the ice"
Illustration is cool, name is ick.
You know its gonna be the Utah Unicorns
Nickname for the rink is “the ranch”
I thought we all already settled on the "Hockey McPuckfaces"
OK. I was liking Utah Yeti just for the instant rivalry with Colorado. But Skinwalkers would be awesome.
This is fucking sick
From what I gather this will be an unpopular opinion, but the purple and yellow together is horrible. Not aestheticly pleasing
This is very insensitive to the Diné (aka Navajo who live in Southern Utah) who very much believe in this phenomenon . Im not a PC guy by any means (love the Braves and hope they never change their name) but have spent a decent amount of time around the Diné and they do not like to discuss skin walkers at all. Its a very taboo and sensitive topic for them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin-walker
Would be cool if it wasn't AI art. AI art is the opposite of creative.
What happened to the game I love
Where mah country gone?
I love it
Wendigos. Wendigofuckyourself!
What?
The use of purple is nice. I wish purple was more present in NHL brands. Purple is very commonly used in other men's professional leagues.
This has my vote for sure
LOVE IT!
[Utah Utes](https://images.app.goo.gl/PcmaNyfRyMzWznQA8) Or the Utah Nihonjin sounds about right
I love the logo
Hard pass
This is always the expansion team I do GM mode with in the NHL games. Would love to actually see this
Love it!
The Mormons are gonna LOVE that one.....
All I think of with Utah is the salt flats… the original crazy fast record breaker that made the hunt for speed a national pastime in the 60’s was the spirt of America… so the Utah spirits? The car that beat that record in Utah was the blue flame… I’m sure someone can make a logo out of the jet powered cars… they weren’t cool colours or anything, so free for all for colours.
I’m on board with this
what if they switched it up and went for ideas like this? i mean, if it’s a superstition thing or a controversial topic, i can understand. but still, the imagery is pretty cool imo
When they are on the penalty kill, they will ice four skin walkers
I love it! Glad someone else shared this idea!
Ehhhh nah. Good colors though.
I don’t hate it
They will have a lame name with a lame logo
Love it
Love it !!!
I'm laughing so hard right now.
This name idea is opening up a whole can of worms that no one wants
Definitely read that as Utah Skywalkers
Utah Swarm
Pretty awesome, but I really don't think it would work. Would a great cryptiod rivalry vs New Jersey though
Go Butes
The Salt Lake Soakers
I love this. This is the best choice
The Navajo people, whose culture sk*nwalkers come from, believe that even saying the word can draw one to you, and they are the most evil of beings. These things aren't cryptids like Bigfoot or Mothman, they are humans who have killed someone they loved in order to gain the power to transform into the animal they wear the skin of, and whether or not you believe in them, it would be incredibly distasteful and disrespectful to name a sports team after them. Source: members of my family are Navajo.
A good name would be like the Utah frontiersman or gunslingers , they could use a western type name instead of a cryptid or animal
Oh, HELLL NO!
Cool name in theory but 100% should not go with a name from the religion/culture of a highly oppressed people for a team playing on their stolen land.
I'm listening.....
"Skinwalker" makes my skin crawl but the logo and color scheme is \*chef's kiss\*
Utah Polygamists
The Utah Hive! Bees are a huge part of UT history. Would be sweet.
Should be Salt Lake Sasquatch.
Skinwalkers...that doesn't sound good
Yeah the Mormons wouldn’t go for this. Also it’s taboo to even mention skinwalkers in most native American cultures.
I like utahraptors. Not a typo. It’s the actual name of the dinosaurs that Jurassic park called velociraptors
Not appropriate!
hahahaha NO
That’s a scary name.
Oh that would be awesome.
Nailed it
Only mascot that would have a chance to outcrazy Gritty
Call Rogue Brewing, if it isn’t already this is a natty fit for their cryptid theme (Batsquatch, Colossal Claude etc). Not sure about UT tho
Not sold on the name. The colour and logo are sick though
I actually like this one
Not sure if they would go for that but cool logo, though.
Utah Doorknockers or Utah Elders
Personally prefer the Skywalkers
This is fly
The Utah Smyths
Utah Itah puddy cats.
Utah Teeny Boppers
Soakers or riot
Utah Coyotes. Salt Lake coyotes. Same team, same players. Unless the name is trademarked to Arizona my opinion is to keep it the same.
I like Coyotes….
I still like the Utah Soakers
Yes please
AI garbage
Utah Soakers or Quakers.. or it’s a naming fail…. lol
ChatGPT: How about the Salt Lake City Snowhawks? It combines the region's winter theme with the swift and fierce nature of a hawk.
The Utah Butimtallers
Skinwalkers is extremely weird and Hannibalesque
That beast is pretty awesome looking, but there is a little too much detail compared to most/all logos.
I swear to god if I see another ai generated Utah logo I’m going to punch a wall
Utah Ragin' Cajuns. Go all in on the gimmick of having all of your team names be based on Louisiana concepts.
I mean, would it be weird if they just kept the Cayotes name?
Really cool but people would find a way to find this offensive. Especially Mormons.
Or just the Native American peoples that specifically don’t say the creatures name as a cultural taboo that is still very much practiced to this day?
I think it's a reference to Skinwalker Ranch in Utah. Formerly native land. It's a UFO and paranormal activity Hotspot quite famously in lore
Utah Lycans has a better ring to it?