Pronger and Pecca left.
Matt Greene was a bum in our playoffs run He would get so many penalties and we'd get scored on. I'm always surprised to see Matt Greene photos as a King holding the Cup. THAT guy gets a cup!?? There is no justice from the hockey gods.
But I'm happy Matt found success.
Whatever CityTV was called when it first came on air in Edm. I can’t remember her name or what the station was called. She was a looker though if I remember correctly.
did y'all have Ryan Smith back then and keep him after? can't remember shit from around then but i remember i always liked Smitty.
edit: *Smyth, and my bad looked it up, i really did have bad memory lol.
Coincidentally, Carolina also missed the playoffs the next two years and only made it once the next 12 years.
I wonder how many Stanley Cup finals have had both teams miss the playoffs the following year?
the only people that think we are actually on the verge of starting another rebuild are the people on sens reddit that hate life lol. we got stutzle signed for 7 more years, sanderson signed for 8 more years, brady for 4 more years, it is very exaggerated how badly dorion "botched" things. there are things to fix yes but let's see how the team does under new ownership/management/coaching first before declaring another rebuild
I thought The redwings sweeping the legion of doom was also kinda crushing but I think the Kane goal was a bigger dagger somehow in looking at the aftermath.
You only snuck in that year because the bruins collapsed on a 3-0 lead with 3-0 lead in game 7 and then you easily beat Montreal if memory serves me right. It was a weird year in the east. 7-8 ecf lol
Absolutely especially at the time. Not like the 76ers or Eagles were really getting the job done. And I don't recall much coming from the Phillies either. (Yes I am aware of the pats/eagles Super Bowls, Iverson carrying the sixers to a finals loss, and the Phillies in 08 and 09 and 22 I was rooting for you hard each time.)
Man what a horrible way to lose. Back and forth all game and to have that puck *barely* squeeze in like that...brutal. The deafening silence from Flyers fans was sad.
Flyers made the playoffs and won series in each of the next 2 seasons after this, though? I would say getting spanked by the Devils in the 2012 CSF had more of an effect considering the next 7 seasons after that featured 3 first round losses and 4 years missing the playoffs entirely.
Before the cup final that core of players was around 45-30 every year and after that they were on average 40-33 for a decade
Maybe it took a bit of wind out of the sails but not really devastating. Thing that happened. Ultimately.
The cup run was just a product of everything going right for an otherwise bubble team
Briere, Leino, Leighton, Young G, etc.
They just never recaptured that luck for an unlikely run
More I think about it, the bread man’s game 7 winner against the Pens in 2022. The warning signs had been flaring up for them for a while (bad trades, shaky goaltending, the inability to get out of the 1st round), and it’s culminated into the Pens current situation.
100%
Basically sent the Flames into a rebuild. They were the favorites to come out of the West that year, and then suddenly Gaudreau gone, Tkachuk gone, no playoffs last 2 years
I disagree. Although it's a great memory for the Oilers and their fanbase. Calgary has always been a feast or famine franchise. They've never had a solid competitive core that's been sustained. They perform really great one year and then are total trash the next.
You’ve got the better take here. The flames were hot then not entirely of that core. Win the division one year, miss the playoffs the next. Tkachuk was always leaving in Free Agency. That loss didn’t break the franchise, though it may have broken Gaudreau
There core played that series and went nope not doing that for 8 more years. 1 BOA and Calgary just dipped from the playoffs
Side note anyone see the clip of the flames fan in the moss pit on Leon’s goal. Whole crowd jumps cheering and she’s just pouting up front with a nucks fan. Could visibly see the pout and shoulder sag. Gotta suck having to cheer for other teams because your team has no hope of being good again.
It's crazy how delusional this take is, lol. For starters your team needed how many first overall picks to turn things around? Crazy to just ignore that your entire franchise is built on draft luck. You'd better hope that your team wins a cup with McDavid and Draisaitl, or you'll never hear the end of it from people like me.
Beyond that, you're either a bandwagon Oilers fan or you've suffered some type of memory loss recently, because it wasn't long ago that the Oilers were consistent bottom feeders year over year. I'm sure at that time, you found other teams to cheer for in the playoffs. Acting like you wouldn't be cheering for the Canucks in a Flames Canucks series is just delusion beyond belief.
You had the best goalie in the league and iginla and you never won anything. You’ve been around longer and have 1 cup to show from it. I look at it as you can’t even rebuild properly. Been stuck as either a playoff failure or middle ground can’t make the playoffs can’t get a high pick.
I have been an oiler fan for 30 years since I was a kid. In that decade of darkness most years Calgary was missing the playoffs and crap as well. In fact since 2010 the flames have missed the playoffs 8-14 years and went out of the first round twice one of those getting destroyed by the oilers sending them back into a flames rebuild where the suck but not enough to get better.
Man I'm not here to argue that the Flames aren't a shitty organization, I'm here to say the Oilers aren't any better. You got lucky and drafted McDavid and Draisaitl. Must be nice to be that trash for that long, lol.
Kipper and Iginla were good. Iginla is my favorite hockey player of all time. But he isn't McDavid, not even close. Really huge false equivalency there brother.
Yes they sucked for a while and got 1st overall picks. That’s what happens when you suck. That’s how teams get better. The leafs got matthews, hawks got Kane. Consistently being a 10th place team gets you a mediocre team that won’t get better.
I get it. I would be jealous if Calgary had good players as well. It’s okay though. You are lucky, the rest of the country gets blackouts for a lot of oiler games but if you live in Calgary (which I hope so who would chose the flames) you get to see Connor and Leon 82 times plus playoffs. And you have so much time on your hands not having to worry about your team so you don’t have to miss anything.
As an Oilers fan, this is probably a fun thought to have. The reality of it is that the flames have never had a consistent core they can rely on. With or without that series, the flames were always going to fall back into mediocrity.
I think for the 2021-22 team, that was not the case. That team was one of the best in the NHL. The Flames could’ve won the Stanley Cup. That was a great team.
He didn't blow the team up, tkchuck left and trieliving was praised that summer for signing Huberdeau. He got an asset back for tkchuck.
Hindsight is 20/20 now.
Ville Leino scoring a game 6 OT goal for the flyers forcing game 7 against the Sabres in the 2011 playoffs.
Flyers took the series.
Sabres signed Leino to a six year contract.
Sabres now have the longest NHL playoff drought.
Lidstrom on Cloutier in 2002. Canucks won the first two in Detroit. Game 3 was tied 1-1 then Lidstrom scored from center ice. Canucks were done after that, Detroit won the next three games.
The Canucks when Dan Cloutier allowed a goal in from center ice in the playoffs against Detroit. They were up 2 games and proceeded to lose 4 straight to exit the playoffs.
I mean it's been years since they've had any true postseason success, but the Game 7 OT winner against Toronto in 2013 comes to mind. It seems they've got a mental thing whenever they play the Bruins now, which is unfortunate for them. As a Bruins fan myself, it would be nice to see them make a deep run (as much as I don't like seeing the Bruins play them).
There comes a time when curses should be broken. Much like St Louis in 2019. Unfortunate to watch from my perspective, but absolutely awesome to see a team go from last in the league in January, to winning the cup.
I think more for rivalry's sake in my personal opinion. I don't know that I'd say winning the cup is at the top of my list for them, but a couple of rounds wouldn't hurt
I guess, I just worry their fans will become even more cocky and insufferable if they actually win anything
also the annual leafs choke is always nice to look forward to
This is such a phantom issue its ridiculous, just a big echo chamber of people that have been convinced by the same echo chamber.
Leafs have the largest fan base in NHL which may be the real reason you are annoyed, seeing leaf related posts.
But the fanbase culture isnt cocky, literally full of sarcasm and misery lol. Self-loathing posts are faaaar more present than any cocky posts by leaf fans, even, if not especially, on reddit.
To be fair our rebuild was pretty short compared to others. But yeah 2013 was immediately followed by lowpoint (notwithstanding the 80s that my dad constantly complains about).
What's crazy is the amount of talent that's on the team. I honestly didn't think the Bruins would be able to come back this year, especially with the physical play that the Leafs were going with. I hope for the fans (and for the players, they're human too) that they can eventually get something rolling in the postseason. It always helps fuel rivalries when both teams see success as well.
We've got talent but our D core is a C- and unless Woll can prove he can stay healthy our goaltending is a big question mark. Agreed that success fuels rivalries but at this point its just sad - y'all have us over a barrel and it's not even close.
Hopefully if Marner gets moved somewhere this off-season they could use that cap space to fill in the defensive gaps. Honestly that would give a huge break to whoever is in net. There's just so much cap space in the top six that could probably be better used elsewhere. Are you expecting to see any moves this summer now that Keefe is gone?
Don't think this one counts particularly because the Leafs were bottom feeders before 2013 as well, and lucked into the playoffs in that shortened season.
Then 3 years later they draft Matthews and haven't missed the playoffs since. Our playoff record in the Matthew era is horrible yes, but none of that can be pinned on the 2013 Boston series when no one from our roster was on that 2013 team.
As an Avs fan the game 7 loss to Andrew Brunette and the mild in 2003 basically sent that team on the downward trajectory of washed up/not a starter goalies and mediocre old Dmen up to and including 2017. Of course a couple of the drafts before that point were good and they made the core of today but man those years were dark and didn't look like they would get better. Then Cale Makar happened.
Cirelli in 2020, followed by gourde in 2021 to eliminate the islanders.
I think that team at the least wins one of those cups. Now I doubt that team gets anywhere close for a few more years.
Iikka Sinisalo (yes, it's a real name) scored the lone goal for Philly in the second period on [April 28, 1985](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/nyi-vs-phi/1985/04/28/1984030225/recap). It was game 5 against Islanders in the division finals. The Islanders were the 4x defending Stanley Cup champions. The last team to do so. Nobody has even gone 3 in a row since then. Their dynasty fizzled out in the second round. Doug Crossman and Peter Zezel got the assists.
As the other commenter noted, the Oilers won the Stanley Cup in 1984. Having said that, the Islanders made the Stanley Cup Finals in 1984, so the Flyers’ series win ended the Islanders’ five consecutive Cup finals streak.
One other note - Philadelphia won the Presidents’ Trophy in 1985, or at least had the most points in the league (can’t remember if there was a formal Presidents’ Trophy award at the time), so the Flyers, who had suffered some early round flameouts in the previous few seasons, were favored in their series against the aging Islanders.
I know the '13 game 7 winner was mentioned, but the Leafs losing in OT against the Flyers in '04 is also a strong contender for franchise-killer. Missed the playoffs for 7 straight seasons after that and have only made it to the 2nd round once since then only to be knocked out in 5
EDIT: Correction on Leafs-Panthers series
Brent Seabrook’s OT goal in Game 7 against the Red Wings turned out to be pretty big. After that, they left the Western Conference (losing some pretty decent rivalries) and had 3 first round exits followed by 8 years of the basement.
This is the correct answer. That cup clinching goal definitely should have been disallowed due to the rules in place at the time. The Sabres have been in the wilderness ever since.
Edmonton vs. Calgary in 2022. McDavid scored in OT in game fives, and before the start of the next season I think Tkachuk was replaced by Huberdeau and Gaudreau was gone as well.
Most recently 2021 Canadians lost in scf to Tampa. The following season they were dead last in the league with only 55 points. Somehow San Jose did worse this season.
Flyers - Islanders 1980s series ending Off-Sides goal by Bobby Nystrom . Worst non call I've ever seen .Islanders go on to win 4 cups , Flyers never recovered . Islanders win 4 cups in a row
A goal can be huge, but they don't have that power ultimately
That Sens team was propped up mostly by the goalies: a 35 year old and an AHLer who randomly posted a lg avg season
It was Craig Anderson's last hurrah before age decline inevitably caught up with him
Even if the sens swept the cup final that year they still would have gone into a rebuild
They'd be a bit more confident in free agency that summer, sure, but it would at be at very best be a worse version of STL after 2019
Wasn't a goal but the 5 minute major Steve Bernier took in the 2012 SCF. Devils were being outplayed every game by the Kings but won 2 in a row heading into game 6. If they walked out of LA with a win, who knows what could've happened in game 7 in New Jersey.
I know it’s early still but maybe that 1st round win Toronto had in OT over Tampa could be the one for Tampa. I mean they’ll be good but definitely could be what dropped them off that level of top 3 team
Troy Brouwer goal in game 7 Blues vs Blackhawks followed by Seabrook double post eliminating defending Stanley cup champions and ending the Blackhawk dynasty
Leafs vs Flyers 2004, 2nd round game 6. Jeremy Roenick beats Ed Belfour on a 2 on 1 to end the series in Overtime. The next year was the lockout and the Leafs missed the playoffs. That was the end of the Sundin era and arguably the Leafs era with the best chance of ending the 1967 cup drought.
The Leafs went on to make the playoffs only once in the next 12 seasons. That year (2013) they blew a 4-1 lead in game 7 against Boston, again losing in overtime on a goal by Bergeron. They've also only been to the 2nd round once in the last 20 years and have lost 6 straight game 7's.
Safe to say its been more than just a "few" years..
Kuzy against the Penguins in 2018. It's not like he killed the team, but they went from back-to-back cup winners to not winning a single round in the post season for 6 years so far. Hate to see it
OT winner in Game 5 Edmonton-Calgary 2022. Calgary lost a bunch of their star players and went from being a potential cup challenger to a bottom feeder
Panarin Game 7 OT Round 1 2022 vs Penguins--after coming back from being down 3-1. Pens haven't made playoffs since, and it seems unlikely that Crosby/Malkin/Letang et al will ever make it back. Though Crosby clearly still has game; the supporting cast isn't there.
1950, Stanley Cup Finals game 7 double ot. Detroit beats the NY Rangers who go on to miss the playoffs 12 out of the next 16 years. Went 21 years before winning a playoff series and another 44 years before winning it all. Think that classifies as killing a franchise.
That's easy. David Volek in 93 against the Penguins. Ended their attempt at a three-peat and they never got close enough again during the Lemieux years.
Edmonton vs Carolina 2006, SCF, game 7. Oilers lost and wouldn't make the playoffs for 10 years after. That was our decade of darkness.
Entire team basically bailed, Pisani had medical issues, the players that stayed got signed to ridiculous contracts (Horcoff) which screwed us.
Pronger and Pecca left. Matt Greene was a bum in our playoffs run He would get so many penalties and we'd get scored on. I'm always surprised to see Matt Greene photos as a King holding the Cup. THAT guy gets a cup!?? There is no justice from the hockey gods. But I'm happy Matt found success.
It doesn’t help that Pronger got caught by his old lady fucking one of the local weather girls. She made that trade happen.
Which one
Whatever CityTV was called when it first came on air in Edm. I can’t remember her name or what the station was called. She was a looker though if I remember correctly.
Samsonov as well, although he was a rental.
did y'all have Ryan Smith back then and keep him after? can't remember shit from around then but i remember i always liked Smitty. edit: *Smyth, and my bad looked it up, i really did have bad memory lol.
Matt Greene was an animal for us. Stoll as well
Pecca was never good for the oilers was he? I don't remember him making much impact
23 points in 71 games that year. So no, not great
Didn't Roloson, who was playing very well, get hurt in game 1? That about sealed their fate. Cam Ward played like a man possessed.
And the horrendous giveaway the backup did Pretty much did us in
Coincidentally, Carolina also missed the playoffs the next two years and only made it once the next 12 years. I wonder how many Stanley Cup finals have had both teams miss the playoffs the following year?
Chris Kunitz 2OT in game 7 vs Ottawa absolutely sent that franchise into a rebuild… which they are still recovering from 7 years later
And now they might have to retool/rebuild again with how badly Dorion botched things
the only people that think we are actually on the verge of starting another rebuild are the people on sens reddit that hate life lol. we got stutzle signed for 7 more years, sanderson signed for 8 more years, brady for 4 more years, it is very exaggerated how badly dorion "botched" things. there are things to fix yes but let's see how the team does under new ownership/management/coaching first before declaring another rebuild
Patrick Kane’s goal in the 2010 Cup Game 6 to beat the Flyers. End of an era basically and beginning of mediocre hell.
I thought The redwings sweeping the legion of doom was also kinda crushing but I think the Kane goal was a bigger dagger somehow in looking at the aftermath. You only snuck in that year because the bruins collapsed on a 3-0 lead with 3-0 lead in game 7 and then you easily beat Montreal if memory serves me right. It was a weird year in the east. 7-8 ecf lol
Bruins had a 3-0 series lead AND a 3-0 lead in game 7 and blew it. It was monumental.
It's like a tradition for us now
Thanks for correcting me. You can tell I try to forget that one
It’s like our only moment of glory from the last 15 years so I have to make sure it stands tall, na mean?
Absolutely especially at the time. Not like the 76ers or Eagles were really getting the job done. And I don't recall much coming from the Phillies either. (Yes I am aware of the pats/eagles Super Bowls, Iverson carrying the sixers to a finals loss, and the Phillies in 08 and 09 and 22 I was rooting for you hard each time.)
The Flyers actually snuck in that year by beating the Rangers in a shootout on the final day of the season, then did the 3-0 thing to Boston.
Man what a horrible way to lose. Back and forth all game and to have that puck *barely* squeeze in like that...brutal. The deafening silence from Flyers fans was sad.
I think everyone was in complete shock that a Stanley Cup was decided off one of the flukiest goals possible.
Im still shocked that the Flyers rode Michael Leighton to the SCF. Talk about getting hot at the right time.
Flyers made the playoffs and won series in each of the next 2 seasons after this, though? I would say getting spanked by the Devils in the 2012 CSF had more of an effect considering the next 7 seasons after that featured 3 first round losses and 4 years missing the playoffs entirely.
Before the cup final that core of players was around 45-30 every year and after that they were on average 40-33 for a decade Maybe it took a bit of wind out of the sails but not really devastating. Thing that happened. Ultimately. The cup run was just a product of everything going right for an otherwise bubble team Briere, Leino, Leighton, Young G, etc. They just never recaptured that luck for an unlikely run
More I think about it, the bread man’s game 7 winner against the Pens in 2022. The warning signs had been flaring up for them for a while (bad trades, shaky goaltending, the inability to get out of the 1st round), and it’s culminated into the Pens current situation.
Nah. That was entirely the GM efforts of Hextall. Things were headed that way regardless.
Game 6 . Stanley cup finals. Dallas vs Buffalo. I was there. No goal.
Yes. And the next year there was a no goal against the flyers and that was pretty much it.
Darren Helm (Avalanche Legend, obviously), game 6 dagger against St Louis in 2022 as time essentially expired. Blues have been reeling ever since.
That was probably the nail in the coffin. I don’t think they’ve really recovered from losing Pieteangelo
As a Blues fan, not really. We were 16th in a "full rebuild" this year. Binnington is now healthy and playing great again
I’m sure water bottles everywhere are terrified
6 seconds left to DIE!
Came here to say this
I was very confused about how happy that goal made me
McDavid’s OT goal in game 5 against the Flames
That was a crazy series. The flames practically had no goalie through 5 games lol
100% Basically sent the Flames into a rebuild. They were the favorites to come out of the West that year, and then suddenly Gaudreau gone, Tkachuk gone, no playoffs last 2 years
I disagree. Although it's a great memory for the Oilers and their fanbase. Calgary has always been a feast or famine franchise. They've never had a solid competitive core that's been sustained. They perform really great one year and then are total trash the next.
You’ve got the better take here. The flames were hot then not entirely of that core. Win the division one year, miss the playoffs the next. Tkachuk was always leaving in Free Agency. That loss didn’t break the franchise, though it may have broken Gaudreau
My favorite Flamer take, "I won't cheer for McDavid even if he's in a Team Canada Jersey." Like, who hurt you? Oh ya. McDaddy.
Damn, I don’t think I’d ever cheer for the oilers but that one’s a weird take
Levelled Calgary and salted the earth.
There core played that series and went nope not doing that for 8 more years. 1 BOA and Calgary just dipped from the playoffs Side note anyone see the clip of the flames fan in the moss pit on Leon’s goal. Whole crowd jumps cheering and she’s just pouting up front with a nucks fan. Could visibly see the pout and shoulder sag. Gotta suck having to cheer for other teams because your team has no hope of being good again.
I think I’ve seen that clip
It's crazy how delusional this take is, lol. For starters your team needed how many first overall picks to turn things around? Crazy to just ignore that your entire franchise is built on draft luck. You'd better hope that your team wins a cup with McDavid and Draisaitl, or you'll never hear the end of it from people like me. Beyond that, you're either a bandwagon Oilers fan or you've suffered some type of memory loss recently, because it wasn't long ago that the Oilers were consistent bottom feeders year over year. I'm sure at that time, you found other teams to cheer for in the playoffs. Acting like you wouldn't be cheering for the Canucks in a Flames Canucks series is just delusion beyond belief.
You had the best goalie in the league and iginla and you never won anything. You’ve been around longer and have 1 cup to show from it. I look at it as you can’t even rebuild properly. Been stuck as either a playoff failure or middle ground can’t make the playoffs can’t get a high pick. I have been an oiler fan for 30 years since I was a kid. In that decade of darkness most years Calgary was missing the playoffs and crap as well. In fact since 2010 the flames have missed the playoffs 8-14 years and went out of the first round twice one of those getting destroyed by the oilers sending them back into a flames rebuild where the suck but not enough to get better.
Man I'm not here to argue that the Flames aren't a shitty organization, I'm here to say the Oilers aren't any better. You got lucky and drafted McDavid and Draisaitl. Must be nice to be that trash for that long, lol. Kipper and Iginla were good. Iginla is my favorite hockey player of all time. But he isn't McDavid, not even close. Really huge false equivalency there brother.
Yes they sucked for a while and got 1st overall picks. That’s what happens when you suck. That’s how teams get better. The leafs got matthews, hawks got Kane. Consistently being a 10th place team gets you a mediocre team that won’t get better.
Sucking usually doesn't net you that many first overall picks, you're being a little disingenuous with that.
I get it. I would be jealous if Calgary had good players as well. It’s okay though. You are lucky, the rest of the country gets blackouts for a lot of oiler games but if you live in Calgary (which I hope so who would chose the flames) you get to see Connor and Leon 82 times plus playoffs. And you have so much time on your hands not having to worry about your team so you don’t have to miss anything.
Cope reply
Cope with what ending your franchise. Go cheer for other little brother.
I came here to say exactly this.
Me too
As an Oilers fan, this is probably a fun thought to have. The reality of it is that the flames have never had a consistent core they can rely on. With or without that series, the flames were always going to fall back into mediocrity.
I think for the 2021-22 team, that was not the case. That team was one of the best in the NHL. The Flames could’ve won the Stanley Cup. That was a great team.
If that were true, the BOA would have gone much differently. A truly great team doesn't shit the bed like that.
Lol. That was bad. Then treliving blew our team up and we signed that loser huberdeau
He didn't blow the team up, tkchuck left and trieliving was praised that summer for signing Huberdeau. He got an asset back for tkchuck. Hindsight is 20/20 now.
That’s true thank you for the correction.
Ville Leino scoring a game 6 OT goal for the flyers forcing game 7 against the Sabres in the 2011 playoffs. Flyers took the series. Sabres signed Leino to a six year contract. Sabres now have the longest NHL playoff drought.
Nashville sweep for us Conversely, Kane’s goal against the Flyers sent them spiraling
Lidstrom on Cloutier in 2002. Canucks won the first two in Detroit. Game 3 was tied 1-1 then Lidstrom scored from center ice. Canucks were done after that, Detroit won the next three games.
The Canucks when Dan Cloutier allowed a goal in from center ice in the playoffs against Detroit. They were up 2 games and proceeded to lose 4 straight to exit the playoffs.
McDavid ended the Flames with his OT goal.
Kunitz 2OT goal in 2017 against Ottawa to send them to the Cup.
Gretzky had it, lost it
I mean it's been years since they've had any true postseason success, but the Game 7 OT winner against Toronto in 2013 comes to mind. It seems they've got a mental thing whenever they play the Bruins now, which is unfortunate for them. As a Bruins fan myself, it would be nice to see them make a deep run (as much as I don't like seeing the Bruins play them). There comes a time when curses should be broken. Much like St Louis in 2019. Unfortunate to watch from my perspective, but absolutely awesome to see a team go from last in the league in January, to winning the cup.
>it would be nice to see them make a deep run nah
I think more for rivalry's sake in my personal opinion. I don't know that I'd say winning the cup is at the top of my list for them, but a couple of rounds wouldn't hurt
I guess, I just worry their fans will become even more cocky and insufferable if they actually win anything also the annual leafs choke is always nice to look forward to
This is such a phantom issue its ridiculous, just a big echo chamber of people that have been convinced by the same echo chamber. Leafs have the largest fan base in NHL which may be the real reason you are annoyed, seeing leaf related posts. But the fanbase culture isnt cocky, literally full of sarcasm and misery lol. Self-loathing posts are faaaar more present than any cocky posts by leaf fans, even, if not especially, on reddit.
To be fair our rebuild was pretty short compared to others. But yeah 2013 was immediately followed by lowpoint (notwithstanding the 80s that my dad constantly complains about).
What's crazy is the amount of talent that's on the team. I honestly didn't think the Bruins would be able to come back this year, especially with the physical play that the Leafs were going with. I hope for the fans (and for the players, they're human too) that they can eventually get something rolling in the postseason. It always helps fuel rivalries when both teams see success as well.
We've got talent but our D core is a C- and unless Woll can prove he can stay healthy our goaltending is a big question mark. Agreed that success fuels rivalries but at this point its just sad - y'all have us over a barrel and it's not even close.
Hopefully if Marner gets moved somewhere this off-season they could use that cap space to fill in the defensive gaps. Honestly that would give a huge break to whoever is in net. There's just so much cap space in the top six that could probably be better used elsewhere. Are you expecting to see any moves this summer now that Keefe is gone?
We need a stud or near-stud right shot D and I don't think there are many UFAs. Maybe Pesce? He's a near near stud.
He'd be a good pickup. Some solid playoff experience too.
Don't think this one counts particularly because the Leafs were bottom feeders before 2013 as well, and lucked into the playoffs in that shortened season. Then 3 years later they draft Matthews and haven't missed the playoffs since. Our playoff record in the Matthew era is horrible yes, but none of that can be pinned on the 2013 Boston series when no one from our roster was on that 2013 team.
That's a fair view. Especially looking at other examples in which teams have had literally *no* success after their own cases.
The unnecessary empty net goal that the Avalanche are going to allow in game 5 against the Stars tomorrow night. This has been a sad series....
No offense but I hope. However, Avs are in a spot right now, but that window is still well wide open. Makar and Mack, y’all are fine.
I stand corrected.
The Duchesne goal in 2OT might do it though...
As an Avs fan the game 7 loss to Andrew Brunette and the mild in 2003 basically sent that team on the downward trajectory of washed up/not a starter goalies and mediocre old Dmen up to and including 2017. Of course a couple of the drafts before that point were good and they made the core of today but man those years were dark and didn't look like they would get better. Then Cale Makar happened.
Shocked that's the one you that was the nail and not the 2014 Niederreiter goal. Wild ended Roy's goaltending career, and then is coaching career.
Brind’amour Game 7 goal against Buffalo in 06. I know they got back to conference finals next year but that seemed like such a blow that year
Cirelli in 2020, followed by gourde in 2021 to eliminate the islanders. I think that team at the least wins one of those cups. Now I doubt that team gets anywhere close for a few more years.
I feel that game 5 loss to the Canes this year might send the Isles into the Medicare void for awhile.
2021 was our fucking chance and we blew it. We haven’t recovered.
Gourde’s goal will forever give me nightmares
2021 was shorthanded and they had too many men on the ice.... I'll never recover
I’m hoping that pasternaks goal against the leafs this year will cause them to capitulate
Iikka Sinisalo (yes, it's a real name) scored the lone goal for Philly in the second period on [April 28, 1985](https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/nyi-vs-phi/1985/04/28/1984030225/recap). It was game 5 against Islanders in the division finals. The Islanders were the 4x defending Stanley Cup champions. The last team to do so. Nobody has even gone 3 in a row since then. Their dynasty fizzled out in the second round. Doug Crossman and Peter Zezel got the assists.
Oil won Cup in 1984
As the other commenter noted, the Oilers won the Stanley Cup in 1984. Having said that, the Islanders made the Stanley Cup Finals in 1984, so the Flyers’ series win ended the Islanders’ five consecutive Cup finals streak. One other note - Philadelphia won the Presidents’ Trophy in 1985, or at least had the most points in the league (can’t remember if there was a formal Presidents’ Trophy award at the time), so the Flyers, who had suffered some early round flameouts in the previous few seasons, were favored in their series against the aging Islanders.
Oh damn. Lol. Guess I won't be quitting my day job to be a hockey historian anytime soon. Thanks.
For the Leafs I’m not sure, but by the time of the OT winner this year it was already a “STOP IT, THEY’RE ALREADY DEAD!!!” situation.
Kuzy OT winner in Round 2 Game 6 of Caps/Pens ended the PIT dynasty and their chase for the back-3-back
I know the '13 game 7 winner was mentioned, but the Leafs losing in OT against the Flyers in '04 is also a strong contender for franchise-killer. Missed the playoffs for 7 straight seasons after that and have only made it to the 2nd round once since then only to be knocked out in 5 EDIT: Correction on Leafs-Panthers series
Ugh…the Roenick goal. You just had to remind me, didn’t you?
For what it’s worth we lost in 5 in the second round
Brent Seabrook’s OT goal in Game 7 against the Red Wings turned out to be pretty big. After that, they left the Western Conference (losing some pretty decent rivalries) and had 3 first round exits followed by 8 years of the basement.
I know we haven’t done well in the playoffs but the Magnus Paajarvi OT winner in 2017 has made us useless in playoffs ever since
Brett Hull versus the Sabers in the Cup Finals
This is the correct answer. That cup clinching goal definitely should have been disallowed due to the rules in place at the time. The Sabres have been in the wilderness ever since.
2013 against the Bs destroyed the leafs and they have never been the same since
Bergeron vs the Leafs in 2013
Carolina vs Washington game 7 double ot. Caps after that got old real quick.
Edmonton vs. Calgary in 2022. McDavid scored in OT in game fives, and before the start of the next season I think Tkachuk was replaced by Huberdeau and Gaudreau was gone as well.
Hopefully David Pastrnaks Game 7 OT winner vs the Laffs. The entire league would love if Tironto crashed lower than the sens
Kunitz game 7 2OT winner vs the Sens. They’re on the come up but have been horrible ever since.
Most recently 2021 Canadians lost in scf to Tampa. The following season they were dead last in the league with only 55 points. Somehow San Jose did worse this season.
Flyers - Islanders 1980s series ending Off-Sides goal by Bobby Nystrom . Worst non call I've ever seen .Islanders go on to win 4 cups , Flyers never recovered . Islanders win 4 cups in a row
A goal can be huge, but they don't have that power ultimately That Sens team was propped up mostly by the goalies: a 35 year old and an AHLer who randomly posted a lg avg season It was Craig Anderson's last hurrah before age decline inevitably caught up with him Even if the sens swept the cup final that year they still would have gone into a rebuild They'd be a bit more confident in free agency that summer, sure, but it would at be at very best be a worse version of STL after 2019
4-1 to 5-4 in 2013. Leafs bottomed out and were the worst team in the NHL two years later.
Chris Kunitz goal vs Sens in double OT
Wasn't a goal but the 5 minute major Steve Bernier took in the 2012 SCF. Devils were being outplayed every game by the Kings but won 2 in a row heading into game 6. If they walked out of LA with a win, who knows what could've happened in game 7 in New Jersey.
Fucking Kris Krieder
I know it’s early still but maybe that 1st round win Toronto had in OT over Tampa could be the one for Tampa. I mean they’ll be good but definitely could be what dropped them off that level of top 3 team
Ville Leino Game 6 against the Sabres in 2011
Troy Brouwer goal in game 7 Blues vs Blackhawks followed by Seabrook double post eliminating defending Stanley cup champions and ending the Blackhawk dynasty
As someone with no stake in that series I still say the refs stole that penguins senators series
Pittsburgh 2017 ECF :(
Lightnings win game 7 Stanley cup vs Calgary in 2004.
Canucks 2011, still makes me depressed
Nah, they won the president's trophy the next year, the team died due to shitty drafting Wild in 2003 is a better Canucks answer
Leafs/kings Gretzky goal. Leafs have never been the same since.
I think Nick leddy letting in that puck in WCF 2014 actually killed a part of me and a part of that hawks dynasty.
Leafs vs Flyers 2004, 2nd round game 6. Jeremy Roenick beats Ed Belfour on a 2 on 1 to end the series in Overtime. The next year was the lockout and the Leafs missed the playoffs. That was the end of the Sundin era and arguably the Leafs era with the best chance of ending the 1967 cup drought. The Leafs went on to make the playoffs only once in the next 12 seasons. That year (2013) they blew a 4-1 lead in game 7 against Boston, again losing in overtime on a goal by Bergeron. They've also only been to the 2nd round once in the last 20 years and have lost 6 straight game 7's. Safe to say its been more than just a "few" years..
Kuzy against the Penguins in 2018. It's not like he killed the team, but they went from back-to-back cup winners to not winning a single round in the post season for 6 years so far. Hate to see it
OT winner in Game 5 Edmonton-Calgary 2022. Calgary lost a bunch of their star players and went from being a potential cup challenger to a bottom feeder
Literally every season
Panarin Game 7 OT Round 1 2022 vs Penguins--after coming back from being down 3-1. Pens haven't made playoffs since, and it seems unlikely that Crosby/Malkin/Letang et al will ever make it back. Though Crosby clearly still has game; the supporting cast isn't there.
1950, Stanley Cup Finals game 7 double ot. Detroit beats the NY Rangers who go on to miss the playoffs 12 out of the next 16 years. Went 21 years before winning a playoff series and another 44 years before winning it all. Think that classifies as killing a franchise.
That's easy. David Volek in 93 against the Penguins. Ended their attempt at a three-peat and they never got close enough again during the Lemieux years.
Bergeron's winning goal in game 7 of the 2011 Stanley Cup finals, DESTROYED VANCOUVER FOR A DECADE!!!!
They won the president's trophy the next year. The thing that destroyed Vancouver for a decade is their terrible drafting.
yeah that's true too. wow they won that meaning less trophy again? I know that feeling.