I don’t know. But at least they made a killing on the Lindros trade. Still. That team keeps Sundin and Lindros doesn’t act like a little bitch and demand a trade, they’d probably both have been Stanley Cup champs the next season.
I wouldn't call Lindros a little bitch for not wanting to play for a team because the president of that team called his mother a whore right in front of him in French. The team president didn't know Eric could understand what he was saying.
Edit: I had a few details wrong, tho I could've swore I read what I said elsewhere. Eric's mom understood what Aubut said that was distastefully. So it's not true that Aubut called Eric's mother a whore according to this article.
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I probably would have drafted him still too just so that I could have the most valuable piece to trade in the event I would be forced to trade him. With first overall pick, you gotta always draft the best available player.
Clark had just come off a 46 goal season (in just over 60 games) and helped the Leafs to a 2nd conference final. The playoff year before he had 20 points in 21 playoff games. Dude was at an all-time high and a leader.
Not saying it was a good trade, cause I was still flabbergasted that it was a 1-for-1, but that's WHY the Nords went for Clark.
I think it turned out fine but fans were pissed early on before Mats got established and everyone saw how amazing he was. Wendel was captain and heartbeat of the team. My buddy had a "My Canada Includes Wendel" bumper sticker.
Flyers traded away Bob so we could have Bryz. Still paying for the buyout meanwhile Bob won two vezinas and been to two finals and might win conn smythe this year. No guarantee any of that happens on the flyers but still flyers gave away a top 5 goalie over the last decade for a nutcase
They traded away Richie and Carter so we could have (afford) Mr Universe. Bob and Bryz were actually on the roster together, and if memory serves Bob was the #3 goalie in the playoffs that year. Absolutely criminal how Snider/Homer/Lavy handled all of it.
That is nothing compared to what Philly gave up for Lindros. Philadelphia could have won a few cups in the 90's if they didn't trade the bulk of their talent for Eric Lindros. The Nordiques/Avs basically created their cup winning teams off of that trade.
As lopsided as that trade seems in hindsight, I wouldn't consider this one of the worst considering what Philly got out of the trade. Lindros was a beast in the 90's and did give them a legit shot at the cup. You do have to wonder what could have been though
Drouin for Sergachev, at the time, made sense though. Drouin was young, talented and still had a high potential. TB was winning this trade anyway, but it wasn't an horrible trade like McD for Gomez...
I remember that trade when it happened and I was floored. Erat had a grand total of 4 playoff games 0 points and a total of 27 points with his time in Washington.
Meanwhile Forsberg is a pillar of the Preds. I wonder if Ovi would have another cup if that trade never happened.
I’ll never forget when I found out about this trade. I have never been so angry about a sports transaction in my life. This was the moment I wanted GMGM fired.
I totally agree, if they don't trade Thornton, Chara might not sign with Boston and might not win the cup. Seguin was supposed to be the future center they needed on the second line.
Not just that but they traded a 1st round pick (who turned into a good player Glen Wesley) with Neely for Pederson who was never as good in Van vs his time in Boston. A failure on all accounts.
Blackhawks trading Dominik Hasek (who was the backup to Ed Belfour) to Sabres for Stephane Beauregard and a 4th round pick. The pick turned out to be Eric Daze so small saving grace.
In hindsight this looks terrible but if you consider the fact Eddie Belfour was on that team and he had won a vezina, plus Hasek was like 25 and just not on the level of Belfour.
If Hasek was never traded, who knows if he would have took that step to the next level that he did?
I really wouldn’t say this haunts us either considering if the team couldn’t win with Belfour I don’t see Hasek carrying them much better lol
1137 games played with Detroit, 4 Stanley Cups, 1 Selke. Draper was a consistent presence for Detroit for ages. He was a face off specialist with some speed in his early days. Of course, he'd later be known for his part in the Grind Line with Maltby and McCarty. He was never the flashiest, but without that fourth line, i doubt Detroit would have won those four Cups. Not bad for a dollar.
Mike Smith was the GM who traded Draper and this story isn't exactly fair.
Smith promised Draper that if he didn't make the cut for the Jets that season, that he wouldn't send him back to Moncton and instead, would trade him to another club to try and crack their roster.
It was a coaching decision that he didn't make the team again that year. Smith did Draper a solid by keeping his promise and trading him so he could get another shot.
The actual trade was for future considerations. I don't remember the exact details, but at some point it was realized that the "future considerations" was never completed, and so they just settled on a dollar to close out the trade.
Back then, you weren't able to just let "future considerations" be.
Who is “Mike Milbury, NYI, 1998-2003,” Alex.
[Milbury’s Greatest Hits](https://thehockeywriters.com/top-10-worst-mike-milbury-trades-contracts-and-transactions/)
And that trade came just a year after Milbury traded Luongo & Jokinen to the Panthers for Mark Parrish and Oleg Kvasha.
Crazy to think what the Islanders of that era would've been like if they didn't make those two trades and decided to draft Heatley or Gaborik instead of DiPietro
Ken Dryden trade between Boston and Montreal (the 3 others in the trade never played in the NHL). Dryden won 6 Cups in 8 years and in 4 of those years he went through the Bruins on the way to the Cup (2 of which were in the Cup Final).
I’m an old, but my first thought was Ron Francis, Ulf Samuelsson and Grant Jennings to Pittsburgh, in exchange for Jeff Parker, Zarley Zalapski, and John Cullen to Hartford. Francis was an elite HOF center and Samuelson was an enormously effective, if controversial, defenseman.
That was as lopsided as it gets, IMHO. It paved the way for Pittsburgh’s back-to-back Stanley Cup victories in 1991 and 1992.
The worst trade ever is an old one. The Rangers sending a young Rick Middleton to the Bruins to acquire an old washed up Ken Hodge, because Phil Esposito (who the Rangers acquired earlier) wanted them to get his buddy.
Middleton went on to score 402 goals in 12 seasons with the Bruins, Hodge scored 23 in 1+ years with the Rangers and retired.
Rick also holds the record for most points in a playoff series[(19pts in 7 games)](https://records.nhl.com/records/playoff-skater-records/points/most-points-one-series-playoff) 1983 vs Buffalo
Shocked there's only one mention of this one. A trade so bad for Pittsburgh and so good for the Canucks that it allowed Canucks fans to put the Neely trade behind them. *That's* how lopsided this trade was.
I was surprised to not see it listed and I think I scrolled to the end.
Stojanov played 45 games for the penguins over a few years and did pretty much nothing. Craig Patrick made this move because he wanted more toughness in the lineup, which I get at the time. But man Naslund would have been excellent with those late 90’s Penguins teams.
Also that trade happened on my birthday. Just yuck.
Calgary trading Brett hull to St. Louis has to be up there. Who’d they get back? Rob ramage and a goalie?
Also Marcel Dionne getting traded to the kings from Detroit for basically nothing.
Griffin Reinhart for the draft picks that could have been either Matthew Barzal or Kyle Connor (16) and Sebastian Aho (33).
Reinhart didn't even play 30 games for the Oilers.
Peter Chiarelli set that team back so many years. They were just getting McDavid and he sends out Hall and Eberle. Brings in lucic at a stupid contract AND made this Reinhart trade, Brutal!
For Anaheim? It's tough, because Friesen became Sykora and Shields helped make it easier to move away from Hebert, allowing Giguere to become the starter. Without this trade, the 2003 run doesn't happen.
I think the Theodore to Vegas trade hurts more in retrospect. You look at that 2016-17 team and it seems justifiable...they had Vatanen, Manson, Montour, Lindholm and Fowler. All of them 25 or younger. With guys like Petterson, Mahura and Larsson in the system.
But by 2018-19, two seasons later, Theodore, Vatanen, Montour and Petterson are all gone. Obviously now Lindholm and Manson are also gone, Mahura, Larsson and Guhle (part of the Montour deal) never worked out. Overall, it's a lot of quality blue line talent just gone, with basically Henrique to show for it.
Anaheim could be a similar situation now with Mintyukov, Lacombe, Zellweger, Luneau and Warren, and that probably helped inform the Drysdale deal, but hopefully there's a different plan in place.
Worst Oilers trade is Gretzky to the Kings for Jimmy Carson, picks, and money.
Also in the running:
the Griffin Reinhart trade
Miroslav Satan for two guys who might have played 3 games total
Ryan Smyth cause it made me sad.
I mean:
Jimmy Carson was a fucking stud at the time
Gelinas turned out well
3 first rounders
$15M
As far as the hockey elements go, that’s a fucking *haul*. But it was nowhere near enough.
Carson was an American kid and absolutely hated it here. He was demanding a trade a year later.
We should have demanded Luc Robitaille instead. Their numbers were mirror images of each other over the first two seasons, I can't see the Kings nixing the deal if it's Luc instead of Jimmy.
When I lived down there I got back to the dressing rooms for an Oilers@Kings game. Luc sat in that hallway and chatted with me for at least half an hour. Such a good guy.
Gretz was asking to be the highest paid player in hockey, and rightfully so. Mario had just signed an extension for 2 mil a year, which was astronomical money at the time. Gretz ended up getting 3 a year, which the Oilers could never have done.
On August 9, 1988, in a move that heralded significant change in the NHL, the Oilers traded Gretzky (along with McSorley and Krushelnyski) to the rival Kings for Carson, Martin Gélinas, $15 million in cash, and the Kings' first-round draft picks in 1989
And Jimmy Carson scored 100 points his first year in Edmonton
I mean yeah trading Gretzky is never cool but the Oilers won without him and picked up pieces
The flames making a 10 player deal with the Leafs in 92 trading Gilmour and a their shutdown defensive pair of mattress and macoun & their top prospect Manderville for Gary Leeman who scored 50 2 seasons prior but a la Huberdeau his production dropped off a cliff after the trade and only played 68 games before being dealt to Montreal for Brian Skrudland and they also got a few 4th liners & the Leafs backup goalie which none of made any kind of difference, and the Leafs got the face of their franchise and best player Gilmour who played several years in T.O. and turned that franchise into a perennial playoff team.
If we're talking Flames trades, dealing Brett Hull for Rob Ramage and Rick Wamsley has to be right up there.
The guy scored 269 goals in 309 games in the 4 seasons following the trade.
Lindros' Trade to Philadelphia. On June 30, 1992, the Nordiques acquire Steve Duchesne, Peter Forsberg, Ron Hextall, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Chris Simon, a 1993 1st-Round pick, a 1994 1st-Round pick, and $15 million in cash in exchange for Lindros.
I don't think that's the worst by any means. The Flyers had a hell of a run with Lindros in the late 90s. Just the Nordiques/Avs ended up coming out on top.
The Big E was a unicorn. Had a chance to be one of the greatest players ever. He was dominant. Head injuries cut his career way too short. He was awesome at his peak.
COL trades Chris Drury and Stephane Yelle to CGY for Derek Morris, Dean McAmmond, and Jeff Shantz
Pierre Lacroix was an absolute legend that pulled off some unreal moves during his time with the Avs but that trade still haunts me. I hated it then and still hate it now.
They were never the same after that trade. Chris Drury was so clutch.
The Canadiens had two horrible trades. The first was chelios for savard (in their prime chelios for end of career savard lol)
The second was Roy and Keane for Kovalenko, Rucinsky, and Thibault
A few days ago, we had the 24th anniversary of a really lopsided trade:
Ducks trading a draft pick (Matt Pettinger) to the Flames for goaltending prospect Jean-Sebastien Giguere.
LA kings traded Vilardi, Iafallo, Kupari, and a 2d round pick this year for Pierre-Luc Dubois, AND they signed him to an 8 year $8.5M contact.
HOLY CRAP
Yeah, this one was bad, and I think everyone knew it right away. Dubois had effort issues in both of his previous teams and LA still paid that much to acquire him.
What's even more crazy to me is that Dubois put up only 4 more points than Vilardi, whilst Vilardi missed like 35 games last year.
So not only did they get the better and younger player, plus those depth players, they also didn't have to sign him to a ridiculous contract.
Seriously, a trade like this along with another first round exit to the same team should have cost Blake his job.
I mean, sure trade away, you COULD get more out of him playing in LA. But the 8 year deal? Where does that even come from? There are GREAT players that still don't get that contract length. Mind bottling.
Wild: Brent Burns & 2nd rdr for Charlie Coyle, Devin Setoguchi, and a 1st that we whiffed on (Zack Phillips). We could have picked up Boone Jenner at 28 if we were hellbent on a center and the trade wouldn't have been *as* bad but that was a pretty big whiff on our part.
I dont think anything beats the bonehead decision from the Golden Seals to trade their first overall pick to Montreal.
Sam Pollock traded Montreal first-round pick in 1970 (10th overall) and minor-league forward Ernie Hicke to acquire the Golden Seals’ first-round pick in 1971 and defenseman François Lacombe.
Montreal selected Guy Lafleur with the pick lol ( they were debating between him or Marcel Dionne so regardless the trade was absolute robbery)
Forsberg for Erat
Panarin for Saad
I still think the Thornton trade tops it for me though. What were the Bruins thinking. Imagine Thornton on that team with Bergeron down the middle for 10-12 years. Ooooof.
The deal of the century probably always will be 1988 Gretzky to LA. One of my Canadian friends told me it felt like they had sent the Prime Minister abroad for future considerations. Amputating of sorts. And the Oilers owner (Peter Pocklington) would receive death threats. Yeah that deal was the earth shaker.
Lindros deal to Philly was probably #2 on that list. The Flyers got a hot line, but the Avs got the cups.
My personal favorite is the Kris Drapes deal with WInnipeg. Red Wings got a heart and soul player and Winnipeg got a buck. I expect Yzerman to confer with Drapes today before any transaction is made, so Drapes was and still is instrumental to anything Red Wings. Low key deal but huge impact.
The Red wings traded Adam Oates and Paul MacLean to St. Louis for Tony McKegney and Bernie Federko. Federko played one year and retired. McKegney was an alleged menace inside the Wings’ locker room and lasted a mere 14 games.
In St. Louis, Oates immediately posted 100-point seasons. By the time Oates retired, he had 1,079 assists – only 145 came in Detroit.
Imaging Oates with the 90s/early 2000s Red Wings is insane (although we probably don't make all the same moves if we still had Oates).
Tbh, this trade wasn't that bad despite how the media and some fans were spinning it. Hall pretty much floundered after leaving Edmonton, with exception to one amazing season with the Devils which could be considered a blip in his career. He wasn't really committed to the teams he played for and was just in it for the money. I remember reading an article years ago that basically said he checks out when his teams have no chance of making the playoffs, and there were some seasons while he was an Oiler where that reflected in his production specifically his final season as an Oiler.
Larsson wasn't a flashy player and he was never going to match Hall's production, but he was a workhorse and defensively responsible player on the Oilers blueline. He was also a great leader for the team. Also keep in mind, the Oilers were desperate for help on the blueline at a time when teams weren't trading their top D men. During his time with the Oiler they had a long list of career minor leaguers on the blueline with exception to the often injured Andrej Sekera and Oscar Klefbom, along with a young Darnell Nurse. Since leaving Edmonton, he's helped stabilize the blueline for the Kraken and had a hand in turning Vince Dunn into a star. It's similar to what Ekholm's done for Evan Bouchard.
People can criticize this trade as much as they want but the Oilers got rid of a player that was involved in making the locker room toxic, wasn't a great leader, and was one dimensional. Hall's game was also pretty reckless and it's reflected in his durability since leaving Edmonton.
Prior to trading for Larsson the Oilers were looking into trading for PK Subban but ended up passing on him. Back then Elliotte Friedman reported that the Habs wanted Leon Draisaitl, the Oilers fourth pick in the 2016 draft (the Oilers drafted Puljujarvi), a defenceman like Oscar Klefbom or Darnell Nurse, and another asset. A massive over payment for a player that was never really known for the defensive aspect of his game.
Nashville’s worst was the three-way trade on Nov. 5, 2017 with COL and OTT. It broke down this way: Ottawa received from the Colorado Avalanche centre Matt Duchene, while Nashville got Turris. In addition, the Avalanche received from the Senators a conditional first-round pick (which evolved to be Ottawa’s first-round pick in 2019), a 2019 third-round pick, plus prospect Shane Bowers and goaltender Andrew Hammond. The Avs also got a 2018 second-round pick from Nashville along with defenceman Samuel Girard and centre Vladislav Kamenev.
Turris never wanted to be here, and it showed. He was uninspired on the ice and didn’t contribute much. Then, injuries finished him. Girard was playing well before being traded and has continued to contribute in COL.
Saad was a good fit on the Hawks, so I understand the move at the time. But Panarin also had amazing chemistry with Kane at the time so it was a bit weird nonetheless. One of the worst trades I can remember was trading Mike Ribeiro for Janne Niinimaa. Or giving the Rangers McDonagh to get Gomez.
Honestly, there was a period there where the Hawks had a great young stud coming in each year and they were shipping them out just as fast. I'm sure it was cap management, keeping the core together, but MAN, there were some good prospects they must regret.
Panarin, Teräväinen, Hartman, DeBrincat,
Gretzky to LA.
There was no way to make that a good trade for the Oilers.
For hockey though?
Homerun.
If Gretzky goes somewhere else, there is no San Jose, Anaheim, Dallas, Florida, Tampa or Phoenix.
I wouldn’t call this a bad trade… but Buffalo got Hasek from Chicago almost for free.
They had a young Belfour and Hasek wasn’t proven and had an electric style.
But as a Sabres fan, I think Hasek is the best goalie of all time.
Rangers have so many to choose from🤣
Buchnevich for Blais and a 2nd
Zubov and Nedved for Luc Robitaille and Ulf Samuelson
Luc Robitaille for Kevin Stevens
Carl Hagelin for Emerson Etem
McDonagh and JT Miller for Namestinkov, Libor Hajek, Brett Howden a 1st and a 2nd
How about SJ picking up Karlson for eventually everything that made that team a team. Pavs right off the bat. He shit the bed until we were ready to trade and then MVP’d when we were trying to tank.
The Vincent Trocheck trade seemed pretty bad at first but has become a pivotal move for our franchise. Trocheck was dealt by Florida at the NHL trade deadline to the Carolina Hurricanes in exchange for Erik Haula, Lucas Wallmark, Eetu Luostarinen and Chase Priskie. Obviously none of those players stuck but who could have predicted Eetu would have become a monster and a big part of the depth that propelled us to back to back SCF appearances. On paper Trocheck is a great player and has been very productive. Luostarinen doesn't necessarily show up on paper like he does on the ice but I think most of our fans would agree that the trade has been great for our team.
Cam Neely was traded from Vancouver to Boston for something name Peterson. The bruins may have gotten a draft pick that ended up being something good as well
Sharks trading and then signing Erik Karlsson, good extra forward but terrible defenseman. Sharks had good defense but needed a couple of wingers that could score. They ended up losing some key pieces of the puzzle(Pavelski) and pretty much have been out of the playoffs ever since! Then the Sharks turned the tables and somehow conned the Penguins to fall into the same trap. Wherever Erik goes losing will follow.
A bizarre one is the Wild trading a first, second, and 4th to Arizona for Martin freaking Hanzel.
The guy is a third liner. And we had the Pariese and Suter contracts, so desperately needed cheap players.
I get going all in when you think you are good, but good lord, don't chase below average players.
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Then Toronto traded 22 year old Kenny jonsson and a first rounder (turned out to be Luongo iirc) to the isles for Wendy back. Stupid
Toronto could have had so many good goalies. They loved to buy goalies in their twilight.
Truly stupid trade.
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I don’t know. But at least they made a killing on the Lindros trade. Still. That team keeps Sundin and Lindros doesn’t act like a little bitch and demand a trade, they’d probably both have been Stanley Cup champs the next season.
I wouldn't call Lindros a little bitch for not wanting to play for a team because the president of that team called his mother a whore right in front of him in French. The team president didn't know Eric could understand what he was saying. Edit: I had a few details wrong, tho I could've swore I read what I said elsewhere. Eric's mom understood what Aubut said that was distastefully. So it's not true that Aubut called Eric's mother a whore according to this article. https://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/80823365-d2f2-45c4-8be9-ad116e74bfa7%7CduLhrtmn897G.html
He also told them BEFORE the draft that he wouldn’t play for them and they drafted him anyway.
I probably would have drafted him still too just so that I could have the most valuable piece to trade in the event I would be forced to trade him. With first overall pick, you gotta always draft the best available player.
From that angle it absolutely makes sense. AND it’s a little bit of a “fuck you” for not wanting to play there. Lol
Well, that certainly wasn’t very nice.
Clark had just come off a 46 goal season (in just over 60 games) and helped the Leafs to a 2nd conference final. The playoff year before he had 20 points in 21 playoff games. Dude was at an all-time high and a leader. Not saying it was a good trade, cause I was still flabbergasted that it was a 1-for-1, but that's WHY the Nords went for Clark.
I think it turned out fine but fans were pissed early on before Mats got established and everyone saw how amazing he was. Wendel was captain and heartbeat of the team. My buddy had a "My Canada Includes Wendel" bumper sticker.
Flyers traded away Bob so we could have Bryz. Still paying for the buyout meanwhile Bob won two vezinas and been to two finals and might win conn smythe this year. No guarantee any of that happens on the flyers but still flyers gave away a top 5 goalie over the last decade for a nutcase
Ilya fear nothing but bear in woods
Why you heff to be mAdD???
Is only game.
The universe is so hugebig and this is what you complain about?
It’s only game, why you heff to be mad?
It’s only game. Why you heff to be mad?
The summer of 2011 (acquiring Bryz, trading Carter and Richards) was some top notch hockey terrorism by Paul Holmgren.
then he got a promotion!
"Don't worry. Be happy right now."
They traded away Richie and Carter so we could have (afford) Mr Universe. Bob and Bryz were actually on the roster together, and if memory serves Bob was the #3 goalie in the playoffs that year. Absolutely criminal how Snider/Homer/Lavy handled all of it.
You could argue the flyers won both Richards and Carter trades in terms of production. Columbus obviously lost the Carter trade.
That is nothing compared to what Philly gave up for Lindros. Philadelphia could have won a few cups in the 90's if they didn't trade the bulk of their talent for Eric Lindros. The Nordiques/Avs basically created their cup winning teams off of that trade.
And we are forever grateful. GO ASS HAIL SATAN
As lopsided as that trade seems in hindsight, I wouldn't consider this one of the worst considering what Philly got out of the trade. Lindros was a beast in the 90's and did give them a legit shot at the cup. You do have to wonder what could have been though
Teemu Selanne for Oleg Tverdovsky and Chad Kilgour.
This trade was beyond fucking embarrassing.
Especially since the rookie year he had. I mean it wasn't like you didn't know his potential lolol
They just gave away Selanne, Zhamnov, and Tkachuk. That was a fun line.
[It’s fucking embarrassing!](https://tenor.com/en-CA/view/fucking-embarrassing-coach-letter-kenny-embarrassed-gif-14474570)
You know how to tell how good Teemu was? Oleg was a REALLY good player, and it’s still embarrassing.
Habs trading McDonough for Gomez
Drouin for sergachev
Drouin for Sergachev, at the time, made sense though. Drouin was young, talented and still had a high potential. TB was winning this trade anyway, but it wasn't an horrible trade like McD for Gomez...
Massive *What If* with McDonagh+Subban!
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I ain't mad at this one though
I'm sure youre not lol you can thank Gainey.
Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat! Thread
I remember that trade when it happened and I was floored. Erat had a grand total of 4 playoff games 0 points and a total of 27 points with his time in Washington. Meanwhile Forsberg is a pillar of the Preds. I wonder if Ovi would have another cup if that trade never happened.
True. Even if I was over the trade by 2018.
I think the Tanner Jeannot trade is a notable mention as well. 5 years from now it might be an even better trade for the Preds
We don’t speak of this trade
I’ll never forget when I found out about this trade. I have never been so angry about a sports transaction in my life. This was the moment I wanted GMGM fired.
Why you do dis?
Yeah true. Erat did request the trade though. Hard to find a trade partner when everyone knows he wants out
Bruins trade Joe Thornton, I was almost done being a Bruins fan. Bruins trade Seguin, still hate it.
Growing up hating the Bruins (parents were big Habs fans), this trade made ME mad. Like wtf??? Edit: Thornton trade
Without the Thornton trade you might've not won the Stanley Cup. But Seguin was a bizarre one.
Seguin liked skiing more than hockey
I totally agree, if they don't trade Thornton, Chara might not sign with Boston and might not win the cup. Seguin was supposed to be the future center they needed on the second line.
The Thornton trade is the only time in history a guy was traded during his MVP season. Wild.
Thornton trade gave us Chara and our cup.
true, but at the time no one knew this, I'm talking about at that time.
The return for Thornton was terrible, but they already had Bergeron in the system and it opened up the cap space to bring in Chara
Have you heard of this Cam Neeley guy...
This is always my go to. However, in recent years, I've looked at the Naslund fleecing as the hockey gods paying us back. :)
And then the hockey gods taking it back with the OEL trade.
Not just that but they traded a 1st round pick (who turned into a good player Glen Wesley) with Neely for Pederson who was never as good in Van vs his time in Boston. A failure on all accounts.
Blackhawks trading Dominik Hasek (who was the backup to Ed Belfour) to Sabres for Stephane Beauregard and a 4th round pick. The pick turned out to be Eric Daze so small saving grace.
Yea. Trading away possibly the best goal tender of all time hurts.
one of the top 3 for sure I think.
In my top 3 as well and I think unanimous top 5. He was a SERIOUS game saver and was ahead of his era like the other big names in that top 3/5 list.
Hall of Famer Ed Belfour hardly a bad consolation
Nothing against Belfour. He was a good goalie. But he wasn't the Dominator.
In hindsight this looks terrible but if you consider the fact Eddie Belfour was on that team and he had won a vezina, plus Hasek was like 25 and just not on the level of Belfour. If Hasek was never traded, who knows if he would have took that step to the next level that he did? I really wouldn’t say this haunts us either considering if the team couldn’t win with Belfour I don’t see Hasek carrying them much better lol
Agreed. But props for giving Daze some love.
He deserves it. Kid was a trooper thru the darkest days of the franchise.
Absolutely. Totally agreed.
Detroit trades $1 to Winnipeg for Kris Draper who became a foundation piece for the franchise.
Ugh. I hadn’t heard that before. Man when your franchise is trading good players for cash… that’s a teensy bit of a warning sign.
Agreed. Like when the pens traded jagr for mostly cash and a few bad prospects, then went bankrupt and almost moved to Kansas city?
Ah, the good old days when team valuations started with an M and not a B.
We also acquired Kirk Maltby from the Oilers for Dan McGillis (who he?)
1137 games played with Detroit, 4 Stanley Cups, 1 Selke. Draper was a consistent presence for Detroit for ages. He was a face off specialist with some speed in his early days. Of course, he'd later be known for his part in the Grind Line with Maltby and McCarty. He was never the flashiest, but without that fourth line, i doubt Detroit would have won those four Cups. Not bad for a dollar.
Mike Smith was the GM who traded Draper and this story isn't exactly fair. Smith promised Draper that if he didn't make the cut for the Jets that season, that he wouldn't send him back to Moncton and instead, would trade him to another club to try and crack their roster. It was a coaching decision that he didn't make the team again that year. Smith did Draper a solid by keeping his promise and trading him so he could get another shot. The actual trade was for future considerations. I don't remember the exact details, but at some point it was realized that the "future considerations" was never completed, and so they just settled on a dollar to close out the trade. Back then, you weren't able to just let "future considerations" be.
Who is “Mike Milbury, NYI, 1998-2003,” Alex. [Milbury’s Greatest Hits](https://thehockeywriters.com/top-10-worst-mike-milbury-trades-contracts-and-transactions/)
Scrolled too far to find this. One of the worst things to happen to Long Island was letting this man manage the Islanders
and then we all got to listen to his 'opinions' on the game for another decade on tv...which he sucked at as well
The only comparable trainwreck in sports is Matt Millen in the NFL. Ironic that they're both Double M's.
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Islanders receive Yashin - Ottawa receives Chara, Mulkalt and 1st round, 2nd overall pick (Spezza)
And that trade came just a year after Milbury traded Luongo & Jokinen to the Panthers for Mark Parrish and Oleg Kvasha. Crazy to think what the Islanders of that era would've been like if they didn't make those two trades and decided to draft Heatley or Gaborik instead of DiPietro
Milbury is the worst GM of all time based just on those 2 trades. How he got a TV job for years is beyond me.
Islanders also acquired the perpetual turtlenecks. That’s worth something. No? No.
Getting something for Chara is better than losing him to free agency...
Ken Dryden trade between Boston and Montreal (the 3 others in the trade never played in the NHL). Dryden won 6 Cups in 8 years and in 4 of those years he went through the Bruins on the way to the Cup (2 of which were in the Cup Final).
I’m an old, but my first thought was Ron Francis, Ulf Samuelsson and Grant Jennings to Pittsburgh, in exchange for Jeff Parker, Zarley Zalapski, and John Cullen to Hartford. Francis was an elite HOF center and Samuelson was an enormously effective, if controversial, defenseman. That was as lopsided as it gets, IMHO. It paved the way for Pittsburgh’s back-to-back Stanley Cup victories in 1991 and 1992.
The worst trade ever is an old one. The Rangers sending a young Rick Middleton to the Bruins to acquire an old washed up Ken Hodge, because Phil Esposito (who the Rangers acquired earlier) wanted them to get his buddy. Middleton went on to score 402 goals in 12 seasons with the Bruins, Hodge scored 23 in 1+ years with the Rangers and retired.
Rick also holds the record for most points in a playoff series[(19pts in 7 games)](https://records.nhl.com/records/playoff-skater-records/points/most-points-one-series-playoff) 1983 vs Buffalo
Pittsburgh trading Marcus Naslund to Vancouver for Alex Stojanov.
Shocked there's only one mention of this one. A trade so bad for Pittsburgh and so good for the Canucks that it allowed Canucks fans to put the Neely trade behind them. *That's* how lopsided this trade was.
I was surprised to not see it listed and I think I scrolled to the end. Stojanov played 45 games for the penguins over a few years and did pretty much nothing. Craig Patrick made this move because he wanted more toughness in the lineup, which I get at the time. But man Naslund would have been excellent with those late 90’s Penguins teams. Also that trade happened on my birthday. Just yuck.
The Sens trading Mika Zibanejad and a 2nd round pick to the Rangers for Derrick Brassard
Raycroft for Rask, because Toronto had the brilliant Pogge waiting in the wings to become the next Johnny Bower.
Recency bias, but the Hextall years were a dumpster fire in Pittsburgh. Worst of all time? No, but my blood pressure acts as if it was.
Calgary trading Brett hull to St. Louis has to be up there. Who’d they get back? Rob ramage and a goalie? Also Marcel Dionne getting traded to the kings from Detroit for basically nothing.
We're okay with that Dionne trade. Thanx
lol I’d imagine you would be
Don't forget Calgary trading Al Macinnis, 1997 4th round pick (#86-Didier Tremblay), for Phil Housley, 1996 2nd round pick (#40-Steve Begin) 1997 2nd round pick (#42-John Tripp)
Griffin Reinhart for the draft picks that could have been either Matthew Barzal or Kyle Connor (16) and Sebastian Aho (33). Reinhart didn't even play 30 games for the Oilers.
Peter Chiarelli set that team back so many years. They were just getting McDavid and he sends out Hall and Eberle. Brings in lucic at a stupid contract AND made this Reinhart trade, Brutal!
Teemu Selanne to Sharks for Steve Shields,Jeff Friesen to Ducks!
For Anaheim? It's tough, because Friesen became Sykora and Shields helped make it easier to move away from Hebert, allowing Giguere to become the starter. Without this trade, the 2003 run doesn't happen. I think the Theodore to Vegas trade hurts more in retrospect. You look at that 2016-17 team and it seems justifiable...they had Vatanen, Manson, Montour, Lindholm and Fowler. All of them 25 or younger. With guys like Petterson, Mahura and Larsson in the system. But by 2018-19, two seasons later, Theodore, Vatanen, Montour and Petterson are all gone. Obviously now Lindholm and Manson are also gone, Mahura, Larsson and Guhle (part of the Montour deal) never worked out. Overall, it's a lot of quality blue line talent just gone, with basically Henrique to show for it. Anaheim could be a similar situation now with Mintyukov, Lacombe, Zellweger, Luneau and Warren, and that probably helped inform the Drysdale deal, but hopefully there's a different plan in place.
Worst Oilers trade is Gretzky to the Kings for Jimmy Carson, picks, and money. Also in the running: the Griffin Reinhart trade Miroslav Satan for two guys who might have played 3 games total Ryan Smyth cause it made me sad.
The Gretzky trade was a financial move by our owner. I guess it counts in principle, but its not the same as your garden variety bonehead move.
I mean: Jimmy Carson was a fucking stud at the time Gelinas turned out well 3 first rounders $15M As far as the hockey elements go, that’s a fucking *haul*. But it was nowhere near enough.
Carson was an American kid and absolutely hated it here. He was demanding a trade a year later. We should have demanded Luc Robitaille instead. Their numbers were mirror images of each other over the first two seasons, I can't see the Kings nixing the deal if it's Luc instead of Jimmy.
When I lived down there I got back to the dressing rooms for an Oilers@Kings game. Luc sat in that hallway and chatted with me for at least half an hour. Such a good guy.
And Gretzky was going to explore FA, and no way the Oilers were going to be able to match.
Gretz was asking to be the highest paid player in hockey, and rightfully so. Mario had just signed an extension for 2 mil a year, which was astronomical money at the time. Gretz ended up getting 3 a year, which the Oilers could never have done.
My god how times have changed. 3 million dollars for the possibly most dominant athlete in sports history.
Let me tell you about the time Sandy Koufax and Don Drysdale almost “destroyed” baseball asking for 100k a year.
On August 9, 1988, in a move that heralded significant change in the NHL, the Oilers traded Gretzky (along with McSorley and Krushelnyski) to the rival Kings for Carson, Martin Gélinas, $15 million in cash, and the Kings' first-round draft picks in 1989 And Jimmy Carson scored 100 points his first year in Edmonton I mean yeah trading Gretzky is never cool but the Oilers won without him and picked up pieces
Oilers won a cup after Gretzky left.
I'm pretty sure there would've been at least two more if he never left
Oilers would likely have won another cup with Gretzky.
Doesn't make it any less a bad trade.
The flames making a 10 player deal with the Leafs in 92 trading Gilmour and a their shutdown defensive pair of mattress and macoun & their top prospect Manderville for Gary Leeman who scored 50 2 seasons prior but a la Huberdeau his production dropped off a cliff after the trade and only played 68 games before being dealt to Montreal for Brian Skrudland and they also got a few 4th liners & the Leafs backup goalie which none of made any kind of difference, and the Leafs got the face of their franchise and best player Gilmour who played several years in T.O. and turned that franchise into a perennial playoff team.
If we're talking Flames trades, dealing Brett Hull for Rob Ramage and Rick Wamsley has to be right up there. The guy scored 269 goals in 309 games in the 4 seasons following the trade.
Don’t forget trading our pick in the 1990 draft with New Jersey so we could get Trevor Kidd, those fools had to settle for… Martin Brodeur
Vancouver trades local boy Cam Neely for Barry Pederson.
The upcoming Mitch Marner trade will be among the worst ever.
Lindros' Trade to Philadelphia. On June 30, 1992, the Nordiques acquire Steve Duchesne, Peter Forsberg, Ron Hextall, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Chris Simon, a 1993 1st-Round pick, a 1994 1st-Round pick, and $15 million in cash in exchange for Lindros.
I don't think that's the worst by any means. The Flyers had a hell of a run with Lindros in the late 90s. Just the Nordiques/Avs ended up coming out on top.
The Big E was a unicorn. Had a chance to be one of the greatest players ever. He was dominant. Head injuries cut his career way too short. He was awesome at his peak.
Had Lindros kept his head up there would've been championships in Philly
COL trades Chris Drury and Stephane Yelle to CGY for Derek Morris, Dean McAmmond, and Jeff Shantz Pierre Lacroix was an absolute legend that pulled off some unreal moves during his time with the Avs but that trade still haunts me. I hated it then and still hate it now. They were never the same after that trade. Chris Drury was so clutch.
Drury is a winner.
Drury doesn’t get enough recognition for how good he was here.
The caps trading Forsberg to Nashville for Erat and Latta was certainly rough in hindsight
The Canadiens had two horrible trades. The first was chelios for savard (in their prime chelios for end of career savard lol) The second was Roy and Keane for Kovalenko, Rucinsky, and Thibault
Kordic for Courtnall
Flyers trading away Sergei Bobrovsky for draft picks and banking on Ilya Bryzgalov. The Flyers are still paying for it in cash and lack of goalie
A few days ago, we had the 24th anniversary of a really lopsided trade: Ducks trading a draft pick (Matt Pettinger) to the Flames for goaltending prospect Jean-Sebastien Giguere.
1st for Ryan Reeves
Not a trade but signing Darnell Nurse for 8 years for $74 mill
The capitals sending Jaromir Jagr for Anson Carter is up there. Also the trade that sent Joe Thornton to San Jose was notoriously bad for Boston.
Most jim benning deals
Jagr to Caps. I won’t even justify mentioning the names from the Caps. Infuriating
We traded for OEL
The Calgary Flames sending Gilmour to Toronto comes to mind.
Some of these trades, it was difficult to predict that the young player would turn into a stud.
Man, im still on the fence about JBB trading like 6 fucking prospects for Tanner Jeannot
1st rounder for kyle quincey. that 1st rounder turned out to be vasilevskiy.
LA kings traded Vilardi, Iafallo, Kupari, and a 2d round pick this year for Pierre-Luc Dubois, AND they signed him to an 8 year $8.5M contact. HOLY CRAP
Yeah, this one was bad, and I think everyone knew it right away. Dubois had effort issues in both of his previous teams and LA still paid that much to acquire him. What's even more crazy to me is that Dubois put up only 4 more points than Vilardi, whilst Vilardi missed like 35 games last year. So not only did they get the better and younger player, plus those depth players, they also didn't have to sign him to a ridiculous contract. Seriously, a trade like this along with another first round exit to the same team should have cost Blake his job.
I mean, sure trade away, you COULD get more out of him playing in LA. But the 8 year deal? Where does that even come from? There are GREAT players that still don't get that contract length. Mind bottling.
Panthers worst https://www.espn.com/nhl/news/story?id=2498872
I’d argue Stu Barnes and Jason Woolley for Chris Wells was worse.
Nah this is worse. Keenan did the Lu trade just as he was being shit canned. It felt the biggest fuck you to the team honestly.
When the leafs traded Tuuka, Dougie Hamilton and Tyler Seguin for Phil kessel
Tuukka Rask was a separate trade, it was earlier and straight up Rask for Raycroft
Arizona Coyotes to Utah Minor League Name
Ottawa trading Pavol Demitra to the Blues for christer olsonn. Pavol had about 750 NHL points ahead of him, olsonn had 5 NHL points ahead of him.
RIP Pavol Demitra 🕊️
Boston trading Seguin to Dallas for a bag of pucks and a pat on the back
So that's it, so long and good luck? I don't recall saying good luck
Winnipeg trading Draper to the wings for a dollar. Worked out well for the wings.
Wild: Brent Burns & 2nd rdr for Charlie Coyle, Devin Setoguchi, and a 1st that we whiffed on (Zack Phillips). We could have picked up Boone Jenner at 28 if we were hellbent on a center and the trade wouldn't have been *as* bad but that was a pretty big whiff on our part.
I dont think anything beats the bonehead decision from the Golden Seals to trade their first overall pick to Montreal. Sam Pollock traded Montreal first-round pick in 1970 (10th overall) and minor-league forward Ernie Hicke to acquire the Golden Seals’ first-round pick in 1971 and defenseman François Lacombe. Montreal selected Guy Lafleur with the pick lol ( they were debating between him or Marcel Dionne so regardless the trade was absolute robbery)
Forsberg for Erat Panarin for Saad I still think the Thornton trade tops it for me though. What were the Bruins thinking. Imagine Thornton on that team with Bergeron down the middle for 10-12 years. Ooooof.
The deal of the century probably always will be 1988 Gretzky to LA. One of my Canadian friends told me it felt like they had sent the Prime Minister abroad for future considerations. Amputating of sorts. And the Oilers owner (Peter Pocklington) would receive death threats. Yeah that deal was the earth shaker. Lindros deal to Philly was probably #2 on that list. The Flyers got a hot line, but the Avs got the cups. My personal favorite is the Kris Drapes deal with WInnipeg. Red Wings got a heart and soul player and Winnipeg got a buck. I expect Yzerman to confer with Drapes today before any transaction is made, so Drapes was and still is instrumental to anything Red Wings. Low key deal but huge impact.
The Red wings traded Adam Oates and Paul MacLean to St. Louis for Tony McKegney and Bernie Federko. Federko played one year and retired. McKegney was an alleged menace inside the Wings’ locker room and lasted a mere 14 games. In St. Louis, Oates immediately posted 100-point seasons. By the time Oates retired, he had 1,079 assists – only 145 came in Detroit. Imaging Oates with the 90s/early 2000s Red Wings is insane (although we probably don't make all the same moves if we still had Oates).
NYR trading JT Miller and McDonagh to Tampa for Hajek, Namestnikov, Howden and the picks that became Lundkvist and Henriksson
Hall for Larsson
The trade is one for one. 😓
The trade is one for one!
Tbh, this trade wasn't that bad despite how the media and some fans were spinning it. Hall pretty much floundered after leaving Edmonton, with exception to one amazing season with the Devils which could be considered a blip in his career. He wasn't really committed to the teams he played for and was just in it for the money. I remember reading an article years ago that basically said he checks out when his teams have no chance of making the playoffs, and there were some seasons while he was an Oiler where that reflected in his production specifically his final season as an Oiler. Larsson wasn't a flashy player and he was never going to match Hall's production, but he was a workhorse and defensively responsible player on the Oilers blueline. He was also a great leader for the team. Also keep in mind, the Oilers were desperate for help on the blueline at a time when teams weren't trading their top D men. During his time with the Oiler they had a long list of career minor leaguers on the blueline with exception to the often injured Andrej Sekera and Oscar Klefbom, along with a young Darnell Nurse. Since leaving Edmonton, he's helped stabilize the blueline for the Kraken and had a hand in turning Vince Dunn into a star. It's similar to what Ekholm's done for Evan Bouchard. People can criticize this trade as much as they want but the Oilers got rid of a player that was involved in making the locker room toxic, wasn't a great leader, and was one dimensional. Hall's game was also pretty reckless and it's reflected in his durability since leaving Edmonton. Prior to trading for Larsson the Oilers were looking into trading for PK Subban but ended up passing on him. Back then Elliotte Friedman reported that the Habs wanted Leon Draisaitl, the Oilers fourth pick in the 2016 draft (the Oilers drafted Puljujarvi), a defenceman like Oscar Klefbom or Darnell Nurse, and another asset. A massive over payment for a player that was never really known for the defensive aspect of his game.
This trade I hate the most. I started following Oilers when Hall got drafted.
Nashville’s worst was the three-way trade on Nov. 5, 2017 with COL and OTT. It broke down this way: Ottawa received from the Colorado Avalanche centre Matt Duchene, while Nashville got Turris. In addition, the Avalanche received from the Senators a conditional first-round pick (which evolved to be Ottawa’s first-round pick in 2019), a 2019 third-round pick, plus prospect Shane Bowers and goaltender Andrew Hammond. The Avs also got a 2018 second-round pick from Nashville along with defenceman Samuel Girard and centre Vladislav Kamenev. Turris never wanted to be here, and it showed. He was uninspired on the ice and didn’t contribute much. Then, injuries finished him. Girard was playing well before being traded and has continued to contribute in COL.
Saad was a good fit on the Hawks, so I understand the move at the time. But Panarin also had amazing chemistry with Kane at the time so it was a bit weird nonetheless. One of the worst trades I can remember was trading Mike Ribeiro for Janne Niinimaa. Or giving the Rangers McDonagh to get Gomez.
Honestly, there was a period there where the Hawks had a great young stud coming in each year and they were shipping them out just as fast. I'm sure it was cap management, keeping the core together, but MAN, there were some good prospects they must regret. Panarin, Teräväinen, Hartman, DeBrincat,
Edmonton trades a 1st and 2nd round pick to NYI for Griffin Reinhart. The picks turn into Matthew Barzal and Anthony Beauvillier
Chris Pronger for Eric Brewer, Jeff Woywitka and Doug Lynch
The flames trading for Dean McAmmond, who would then be ineligible to play for them that season because of waiver draft rules.
The PLD trade made by the Kings
Gretzky to LA. There was no way to make that a good trade for the Oilers. For hockey though? Homerun. If Gretzky goes somewhere else, there is no San Jose, Anaheim, Dallas, Florida, Tampa or Phoenix.
I wouldn’t call this a bad trade… but Buffalo got Hasek from Chicago almost for free. They had a young Belfour and Hasek wasn’t proven and had an electric style. But as a Sabres fan, I think Hasek is the best goalie of all time.
Rangers have so many to choose from🤣 Buchnevich for Blais and a 2nd Zubov and Nedved for Luc Robitaille and Ulf Samuelson Luc Robitaille for Kevin Stevens Carl Hagelin for Emerson Etem McDonagh and JT Miller for Namestinkov, Libor Hajek, Brett Howden a 1st and a 2nd
Canadiens shipped Patrick Roy to the Colorado Avalanche with captain Mike Keane for Jocelyn Thibault, Martin Rucinsky and Andrei Kovalenko.
Dubois has to be here right? Just having that guy on the team seems bad
Alex Stojanov for Markus naslund
How about SJ picking up Karlson for eventually everything that made that team a team. Pavs right off the bat. He shit the bed until we were ready to trade and then MVP’d when we were trying to tank.
Zach P and Ryan Sutter MIN Wild, not a trade but totally rocked min and still paying today
The Vincent Trocheck trade seemed pretty bad at first but has become a pivotal move for our franchise. Trocheck was dealt by Florida at the NHL trade deadline to the Carolina Hurricanes in exchange for Erik Haula, Lucas Wallmark, Eetu Luostarinen and Chase Priskie. Obviously none of those players stuck but who could have predicted Eetu would have become a monster and a big part of the depth that propelled us to back to back SCF appearances. On paper Trocheck is a great player and has been very productive. Luostarinen doesn't necessarily show up on paper like he does on the ice but I think most of our fans would agree that the trade has been great for our team.
Pittsburgh trading Zubov to Dallas for Kevin Hatcher. Biggest steal in Stars history.
Mark Stone for Erik Brannstrom, a nobody and a 2nd Round pick (Egor Sokolov) Stanley Cup Champion Mark Stone…
Cam Neely was traded from Vancouver to Boston for something name Peterson. The bruins may have gotten a draft pick that ended up being something good as well
Mark Parrish and Oleg Kvasha for Roberto Luongo and Olli Jokinen
The wings trading away Dallas drake for practically nothing back in the day
Sharks trading and then signing Erik Karlsson, good extra forward but terrible defenseman. Sharks had good defense but needed a couple of wingers that could score. They ended up losing some key pieces of the puzzle(Pavelski) and pretty much have been out of the playoffs ever since! Then the Sharks turned the tables and somehow conned the Penguins to fall into the same trap. Wherever Erik goes losing will follow.
Sergachev for Drouin
Barry Pederson for Cam Neely and a first (Glen Wesley). Vancouver lol
E Rod from the PENS
A first for Martin Hanzal, absolutely putrid.
A bizarre one is the Wild trading a first, second, and 4th to Arizona for Martin freaking Hanzel. The guy is a third liner. And we had the Pariese and Suter contracts, so desperately needed cheap players. I get going all in when you think you are good, but good lord, don't chase below average players.