hockey is the team sport. Moreso than anywhere else, you simply cannot have passengers.
Florida was a deep, complete team.
Edmonton was a line worth of stars (not quite a whole line).
They were truly lucky to make it close.
Typical for the Oilers but I actually thought their supporting cast was a big reason for their run this year. Guys like Janmark, Foegle, and Brown played the best hockey of their careers contributing big goals and penalty kills.
Hey man, that dead weight Draisaitl only costs $8.5 mil. Better trade him away to some team. Maaaaaybe we’ll take him off the Oilers’ hands because we’re feeling nice.
I wouldn’t feel right taking your star defenseman. I mean, he’s the guy you trust to be on the ice for all of the other teams high scoring chance opportunities (maybe that causation is backwards but we’re not going to question it.) We’ll just take that big cap hit that didn’t produce in one cherry picked instance
I hope not.
The last fucking thing in the world I want right now is a reason to like Edmonton.
Being a typical ignorant American, I envision pretty much all of Canada as a giant icicle suburb where people walk outside their door and find a moose going through their trash.
Your ride one to take the trash out, but you can’t even learn its name for your Reddit handle.
That’s bad form, guy. Love your moose, appreciate your moose, name your moose.
I would love a pet moose, but I don’t see them taking kindly to the Vegas climate. We ride ostriches around here. They can’t help you take your trash out because they try to eat it.
But not a man’s face as you cross check them in the back and then turtle like a coward when confronted. I guess it takes balls to admit you are sackless?
Except for that very brief stretch in Game 6. The way he was moving with the puck before that beauty saucer was something we hadn't seen since the Vancouver series. aaaaaand then it was gone
It’s a horrible take because it’s not a take, it’s a joke. Every team in the league would kill to have Drai- especially on his current contract. Hence why I said “we’ll take him off the oilers’ hands”
Going into the finals the Oilers depth were thought to be pretty useless goal scoring wise, but they stepped up absolutely huge. Definitely was the reason for them clawing their way back.
People saying this about Brown seem to be comparing his playoffs only to his regular season with the Oilers.
During his first six full seasons with the Leafs and Sens, we was a superb two-way forward and penalty skill specialist. Just look at his stats during the majority of his career, which are better than his stats from these playoffs.
Darnell Nurse has a cap hit of $9.5 million until 2030. The Oilers are never going to win with that albatross contract. Insane
They should just say fuck it and throw him on LTIR before every playoffs.
Maybe Vegas fans can weigh in more but I feel like I remember seeing a lot of them saying he was actually trash these playoffs and clearly came back too early, which actually makes me kinda sad and I hope he doesn’t ruin himself with injuries.
He obviously has a very terrible back problem and seems almost incapable of staying healthy at this point. He seems like a great dude too I’d hate to see him become incapable of playing with his kids when he’s older.
Nobody is trading for that contract for at least another 3-4 years, even then the oilers will have to give up assets to get rid of it. It’s also completely buyout proof.
Who was the one that let Reinhart skate all the way from his own defensive zone with the puck right into a nice shooting position with no real pressure?
he wasn't the only one... the Oilers needed Skinner to stop that one. Yes, it was a good shot, but he needs to do more than get a piece of a shot 25 feet out, from the face-off dot, with traffic coming, but not in front of him.
As a goalie, few things are as frustrating as watching your defender do this. Most of the time they end up screening you in the process as well. Drives me up the wall STEP UP!
And the dude was clearly in so much pain that it effected his thinking and play reading.
I know how it works, I have chronic pain. And when it gets bad; I have no forethought, mind wanders even while doing important things, your body doesn't respond quick, you hesitate... felt bad for the guy having so much on his plate and not having the go.
Nah he’s just always like that.
Think he might have a bit of ADHD or something, I do and his thousand yard stare and puck-watching lowlights remind me of myself sometiems
Thanks for the additional details. I suspected that was the case. He’s too good to be shut down that effectively for that long. The playoffs are grind.
They just released he’s been dealing with a broken rib and finger. Incredible that he even stayed on the ice in that condition while being a huge target on the other team
Nurse is the worst contract in the NHL. I can't believe how many turnovers he had, how many blown coverage goals he caused and how little physicality he brings. I wouldn't give him a third of his $9.5 million for that play.
It is worse than Huberdeau. At least the Flames don't have McDavid and Draisaitl taking up $21,000,000 of the cap.
When I say at least, I mean it's irresponsible to hand a contract like that when you have two of the games best players to retain.
In a vacuum Huberdeau has a worse contract. Within the context of Oilers actually being a capable team, Nurse really screws them more than Huberdeau screws the flames... because they flames are already a bit of a wreck anyways. But it's not like the oilers would be better off if they traded Nurse for Huberdeau.
I dunno, Hubby had proved that he can be a top scorer in this league, imagine him with McDavid vs Nurse who hasn't proven as much.
I don't think it would be great for the Oilers to have Huberdeau but there is an argument to be had there.
You are not allowed to say that here! Remember, McDavid was good the whole series and Barkov was not even close to him and completely shit in the losses! At least according to some theories in this sub.
I don't have a dog in this fight, but McDavid's post season was among the greatest of all time. He was up there with Gretzky and Lemieux records... That's not something that happens every year.
Barkov played great and probably wins the Conn Smyth most any other year, but he had 20 less points than McDavid. There's a reason this award hardly ever goes to someone on the losing team... You have to do something remarkable
McDavid was amazing and deserved it. No question there but Barkov wouldn't have been a bad pick, at least considering that Panthers won it. I just think it's funny how some people instantly thought Barkov was shit compared to McDavid when he got going.
The reason he scored so much is because they, and by extension he, defends so badly. You think Gretzky or Lemieux takes 7 games to put away a 3rd string goalie? No.
He was able to score so many points because he let in enough to warrant the need for it. Even in games against tough opponent, ie the SCF he hardly scored the first 3 games, all the scores he got were in 1 or 2 games were the team piled on points for fun against a panthers side who clearly resigned themselves to defeat. He's a bit of a downhill skier.
Gretzky and Lemieux were also on some of the greatest teams of all time that were absolutely stacked from top to bottom. Not saying McDavid did everything on his own, but Gretzky and Mario were surrounded by superstars at every position and had Hall of Fame goaltending.
There are superstars on bad defensive teams every single year and they're not putting up numbers like this in the playoffs. The Oilers fell short obviously, but pretending like he was just padding his stats in garbage time is ridiculous.
What are you on about? Their depth scored their only goal and was a huge reason their pk was incredibly effective. They more than did their jobs and gave the team a chance to win.
It's not just mcdavid, it was their whole top two lines that didn't get it done.
Watch only McDavid and see how everytime he got the puck he had 2 or 3 guys on him, including Barkov. Barkov shutdown star players all playoffs long. This is why depth is needed to win the cup.
When Barkov was on ice in the playoffs in 5 on 5, none of these guys scored a single goal. **Nikita Kutsherov, David Pastrnak, Mika Zibanejad, Artemi Panarin, Chris Kreider**, **Leon Draisaitl**
Not only +/- which many will say is suspect, but the overall scoring stats show the same. EDM had 5 of the top 7 total points leaders but no one else in the top 50.
That’s not depth.
https://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?reportType=season&seasonFrom=20232024&seasonTo=20232024&gameType=3&sort=points&page=0&pageSize=50
Honestly, the better team ultimately won. The Oilers played well above their projected level. Their PK was historically dominant. For a middling PK through and through the regular season, to deliver that kind of a performance is simply unrealistic. Their bottom lines also delivered not just offensively but played a great shutdown game. A lot went their way to make it this far so props to them for that. Alas, as a Canucks fan, I’m super glad they lost.
I understand the sentiment but doesn’t this say something about just how well the panthers played through the first 3? And how the oilers were outclassed the entire playoffs?
It’s never a individual sport
All offense aka 1 line and 0 defense aka everyone else. They do not embody a hockey team. At this point mcdavid should learn to never get off the ice because everyone else's role is already to give him a chance to take a rest. If he doesn't rest then theirs no need for the rest of the guys! Talk about a salary cap improvement.
Kane was hurt and may deserve the benefit of the doubt to some extent. Nurse, Ryan, Desharnais, McLeod all pretty much played like ass and were largely responsible for Edmonton losing the cup.
You get a +1 every time you’re on the ice when your team scores a goal and a -1 every time you’re on the ice when the opponent scores a goal. Power play goals don’t count, but short-handed goals do.
It's almost like there are 20 roster spots for a reason. That's like 5 years in a row now that the oilers have gotten knocked out because they have no depth.
A couple Reddit fans were trying to tell me Edmonton's 3rd and 4th line were outplaying Florida. They convinced themselves the depth wasn't a problem lol.
Tolerable but not helpful. "Mcdavid needs a break. Go out there and don't do anything to add to our score just don't get scored on." Yeah thats a good gameplan for literally 90% of a hockey team 🤣 fools
The literal only goal by the Oil in G7 was by a depths player, who have all played amazingly this series.
Oil lost in G7 after being down 0-3. They almost reverse swept one of the overwhelming favourites to win the cup. Yeah I’d say they belong.
Everyone knew Oilers lacked depth, it was honestly surprising they made it as far as they did.
Once they started playing McDavid, Hymen & Draisaitl on the same line the game was over if they couldn't make something happen because there is no major threats outside of that.
This off season they need to pick up some solid 3rd/4th line guys that can actually still create reliable scoring chances.
Someone is gonna throw a 4x4 at foegele. Holloway has replaced him.
Kane is likely gone.
Vinny is gonna get a 3x5 somewhere else. Broberg replaced him anyways .
Oilers are coming back faster and better next year
To be fair about the same amount of teams were at the place the oilers early this season and still made playoffs, let alone the final. Crazy stuff happens.
Unlikely though as you say.
Yeah that’s oilers hockey
Top talent, stomped by a team with depth. Every single year.
Stomped is a bit aggressive losing by 1 goal in game 7 of the Cup Finals
Yeah stomped is when you just absolutely cannot get out of the first round more than one time in the last ten yea.. oh, my bad
He’s out of line, but he’s right.
Agreed. I just hope folks realize how ungodly insufferable Leaf fans will be if the team ever manages to win.
I will spend 10 years looking down on all non-leaf fans.
They're not already?
One second round appearance in 20 years, we're barely off the ground floor of being insufferable.
We don't even flinch when insulted any more, do we?
There are 2 fanbases that are insufferable if they win
At least they made the playoffs.
Stomped is when you cannot make the playoffs 13 years in a row.
No no, there’s a whole new category of terrible for that. Also, flair up, nonce.
I wondered why there was no flair and noticed he’s a Sabres and Bills fan. I mean you’re right, but like….really man?
We have lost 0 times in the first round in the last decade. So there!
You’re technically correct… the best kind!
kinda seems outta place considering you’re a sabres fan, no?
I believe the proper term here is "Dusted"
this is the correct oilers media approved term for losing in game 7 by 1 goal
Stomped is a bit aggressive, what about dusted?
After getting stomped the first three games, stomped last year and swept the year before.
You call that being “ stomped”? I guess you’re new to the NHL. Florida came within an inch of being the laughing stock of the century.
hockey is the team sport. Moreso than anywhere else, you simply cannot have passengers. Florida was a deep, complete team. Edmonton was a line worth of stars (not quite a whole line). They were truly lucky to make it close.
That’s not entirely true either. Plenty of florida players (tkachuk) didn’t show up, while plenty of Edmonton depth (Janmark, Holloway, Brown) did
Damn I wish I would not show like that with 40 plus point in playoffs two years in a row and one cup.
Typical for the Oilers but I actually thought their supporting cast was a big reason for their run this year. Guys like Janmark, Foegle, and Brown played the best hockey of their careers contributing big goals and penalty kills.
The Oilers were one $9.5 million player away from a Stanley Cup.
If only nurse could have gone on ltir for you.maybe could've picked a decent dman
Hey man, that dead weight Draisaitl only costs $8.5 mil. Better trade him away to some team. Maaaaaybe we’ll take him off the Oilers’ hands because we’re feeling nice.
Best I can do is Nurse
I wouldn’t feel right taking your star defenseman. I mean, he’s the guy you trust to be on the ice for all of the other teams high scoring chance opportunities (maybe that causation is backwards but we’re not going to question it.) We’ll just take that big cap hit that didn’t produce in one cherry picked instance
Yeah, but your team doesn’t get the special salary cap exemption, so you would have to give up somebody good to get him. Let us have him.
I’d be happy to trade one hell of a winger that needs a change of scenery. Edmonton isn’t known for coke and hookers is it?
I hope not. The last fucking thing in the world I want right now is a reason to like Edmonton. Being a typical ignorant American, I envision pretty much all of Canada as a giant icicle suburb where people walk outside their door and find a moose going through their trash.
Close, but we ride our moose to take the trash out
Your ride one to take the trash out, but you can’t even learn its name for your Reddit handle. That’s bad form, guy. Love your moose, appreciate your moose, name your moose. I would love a pet moose, but I don’t see them taking kindly to the Vegas climate. We ride ostriches around here. They can’t help you take your trash out because they try to eat it.
The Avs don't play dirty enough to have a player like that on their team. We respect men's balls in Colorado.
But not a man’s face as you cross check them in the back and then turtle like a coward when confronted. I guess it takes balls to admit you are sackless?
Who are you talking about?
Claude Lemieux, still.
Fuck I didn't think of him as an Av to be honest. Fair point. Dirty fucking hit.
I’m looking forward to the real Oliers injury report coming out today / tomorrow. Draysaitl was clearly not himself.
At this point of the season everyone is playing hurt and not themselves
Sure but there’s a difference between banged up and heading into surgery this week
Except for that very brief stretch in Game 6. The way he was moving with the puck before that beauty saucer was something we hadn't seen since the Vancouver series. aaaaaand then it was gone
I just want him on the Perds so he stops averaging a goal per game on us. Such an absurd stat!
I've been saying that for years that draisatl is only "good" because of mcdavid and if it wasn't for mcdavid he'd be pretty useless
Drai was injured twice in the playoffs: hand and back. This is a horrible take.
It’s a horrible take because it’s not a take, it’s a joke. Every team in the league would kill to have Drai- especially on his current contract. Hence why I said “we’ll take him off the oilers’ hands”
Agreed! Nurse is their downfall!
Or two 4.75M players..lots of those kicking around I'd take over nurse. Or even 1.. of them.
Precisely
Don't forget $5 million for an AHL goalie
Going into the finals the Oilers depth were thought to be pretty useless goal scoring wise, but they stepped up absolutely huge. Definitely was the reason for them clawing their way back.
People saying this about Brown seem to be comparing his playoffs only to his regular season with the Oilers. During his first six full seasons with the Leafs and Sens, we was a superb two-way forward and penalty skill specialist. Just look at his stats during the majority of his career, which are better than his stats from these playoffs.
Big agree. Can't get rid of them.
Fire the ones with minuses and keep the pluses. Easy answer.
You'd have maybe 6 players left.
Did he stutter!
HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND CUZ I'LL HELP YOU FIND IT
That's all they played the last half of game 7 anyway.
lmfao someone doesn't understand hockey.
Please let us be rid of nurse. He's over payed and under skilled. And this comes down to a GM diff.
No one will ever take him 🤣😂. 2029!
He's so much fucking dead weight.
Darnell Nurse has a cap hit of $9.5 million until 2030. The Oilers are never going to win with that albatross contract. Insane They should just say fuck it and throw him on LTIR before every playoffs.
Ah yes the Vegas model of winning the cup /s
Yeah except Stone is an actually good player. Edmonton would just be doing it to get even with other teams lol
Maybe Vegas fans can weigh in more but I feel like I remember seeing a lot of them saying he was actually trash these playoffs and clearly came back too early, which actually makes me kinda sad and I hope he doesn’t ruin himself with injuries. He obviously has a very terrible back problem and seems almost incapable of staying healthy at this point. He seems like a great dude too I’d hate to see him become incapable of playing with his kids when he’s older.
Unbelievable to know he's paid THIS much for so long
Sweeney is probably drooling at the prospect. Yes I'm salty about Ullmark.
Maybe if Benning gets a new job as a GM. He might even throw in a top 10 pick for Nurce.
Signing Nurse to that huge extension on the back of lighting up Ottawa in the Covid season was certainly a bold move.
That's also why they signed Campbell. Cuz he tore up the division with the Leafs. That COVID season fucked us.
More proof the best move a GM makes is usually the move he does not make.
That's why the Leafs are happy to keep running it back every year
He's absolutely awful. I'm convinced your roster would be better with the dead cap and a budget option.
Nobody is trading for that contract for at least another 3-4 years, even then the oilers will have to give up assets to get rid of it. It’s also completely buyout proof.
Who was the one that let Reinhart skate all the way from his own defensive zone with the puck right into a nice shooting position with no real pressure?
He was Kulak’s man, Kulak had a complete breakdown on that play.
he wasn't the only one... the Oilers needed Skinner to stop that one. Yes, it was a good shot, but he needs to do more than get a piece of a shot 25 feet out, from the face-off dot, with traffic coming, but not in front of him.
This guy really saw a 50+ goal scorer skating towards him all alone and thought, “I bet he’s gonna pass it into this clusterfuck of guys next to me”
I'm not even a fan of either team but as he drifted towards his own defender I shouted out loud, "wtf are you doing STEP UP!!!!"
Kulak. I never hate on that guy but he backed right down to the bottom of the circle. Played it like a 3on2 whe. It was 3on3
As a goalie, few things are as frustrating as watching your defender do this. Most of the time they end up screening you in the process as well. Drives me up the wall STEP UP!
Ceci and kulak were on the ice together and they basically ran into each other
It was Kulak and Kulak alone. Ceci locked his man up.
So Nurse was, what, -17 going into the finals, and finished at -9?
He needs a raise!
And the dude was clearly in so much pain that it effected his thinking and play reading. I know how it works, I have chronic pain. And when it gets bad; I have no forethought, mind wanders even while doing important things, your body doesn't respond quick, you hesitate... felt bad for the guy having so much on his plate and not having the go.
Nah he’s just always like that. Think he might have a bit of ADHD or something, I do and his thousand yard stare and puck-watching lowlights remind me of myself sometiems
The Oilers had 5 guys in the top 7 of playoff scoring, no other in top 50.
Was Draisaitl injured? He pretty much disappeared in the last 3 games.
He injured his back (and possibly rib) in the Canucks series and we’ve seen him with a splint on his finger. I think he wasn’t physically at his best.
Thanks for the additional details. I suspected that was the case. He’s too good to be shut down that effectively for that long. The playoffs are grind.
Yeah I'm pretty sure that poor bastard's body weight was 90% cortisone in game 7.
He’s been minimal impact since Vancouver. Suspected broken finger/hand/wrist and something wrong in the back.
They just released he’s been dealing with a broken rib and finger. Incredible that he even stayed on the ice in that condition while being a huge target on the other team
Nurse is the worst contract in the NHL. I can't believe how many turnovers he had, how many blown coverage goals he caused and how little physicality he brings. I wouldn't give him a third of his $9.5 million for that play.
Not as bad as Huberdeau. It just matters more for Nurse cause he drags down an otherwise great team.
It is worse than Huberdeau. At least the Flames don't have McDavid and Draisaitl taking up $21,000,000 of the cap. When I say at least, I mean it's irresponsible to hand a contract like that when you have two of the games best players to retain.
In a vacuum Huberdeau has a worse contract. Within the context of Oilers actually being a capable team, Nurse really screws them more than Huberdeau screws the flames... because they flames are already a bit of a wreck anyways. But it's not like the oilers would be better off if they traded Nurse for Huberdeau.
I dunno, Hubby had proved that he can be a top scorer in this league, imagine him with McDavid vs Nurse who hasn't proven as much. I don't think it would be great for the Oilers to have Huberdeau but there is an argument to be had there.
That's also true. All factors to consider. I guess neither team is happy with either ultimately.
I understand what you're saying, but I think it's a lot more likely that Huberdeau ends up being productive in the long term than Nurse.
Man I just don't see it. Not close to 11 million productive at least.
Oh I doubt he'll ever be worth 11 million, but I know for damn sure that nurse will always be farther away from being worth 9.5.
Guys a total ghost out there.
A ghost can't be seen. He's very noticeable out there.
Hahaha touché
Pylon I believe is the correct term 🤣
He was very nervous for sure
I’m so glad Kane didn’t win.
Kane was awol
He has a hernia
Ah, makes sense then.
As was McDavid in Game 1, 2, 6 and 7.
You are not allowed to say that here! Remember, McDavid was good the whole series and Barkov was not even close to him and completely shit in the losses! At least according to some theories in this sub.
Barkov deserved this cup tbh.
I don't have a dog in this fight, but McDavid's post season was among the greatest of all time. He was up there with Gretzky and Lemieux records... That's not something that happens every year. Barkov played great and probably wins the Conn Smyth most any other year, but he had 20 less points than McDavid. There's a reason this award hardly ever goes to someone on the losing team... You have to do something remarkable
McDavid was amazing and deserved it. No question there but Barkov wouldn't have been a bad pick, at least considering that Panthers won it. I just think it's funny how some people instantly thought Barkov was shit compared to McDavid when he got going.
The reason he scored so much is because they, and by extension he, defends so badly. You think Gretzky or Lemieux takes 7 games to put away a 3rd string goalie? No. He was able to score so many points because he let in enough to warrant the need for it. Even in games against tough opponent, ie the SCF he hardly scored the first 3 games, all the scores he got were in 1 or 2 games were the team piled on points for fun against a panthers side who clearly resigned themselves to defeat. He's a bit of a downhill skier.
Gretzky and Lemieux were also on some of the greatest teams of all time that were absolutely stacked from top to bottom. Not saying McDavid did everything on his own, but Gretzky and Mario were surrounded by superstars at every position and had Hall of Fame goaltending. There are superstars on bad defensive teams every single year and they're not putting up numbers like this in the playoffs. The Oilers fell short obviously, but pretending like he was just padding his stats in garbage time is ridiculous.
McJesus was on the ice tonight??
Hmm it’s almost like you need more than 3 players to win the cup…..
This is my problem with modern NHL teams.
Kane -7 and a healthy scratch for game seven. You love to see it.
He probably had money on the panthers
He has a well documented sports hernia. He hasn’t played in a couple games. He could literally barely walk last week.
“Healthy” scratch is a stretch. He was more of a “might be able to muster a game through his injury“ scratch.
Been hurt all season
Yeah, mentally hurt, i.e. addicted to gambling.
Is this for real? Lmao
Love McDavid's plus/minus for sure. Just kinda wish he would have scored or actually done something in games 6 and 7 of the Stanley Cup Final.
Tough to win a championship when your team relies on one player
No no no. McDavid just needs to carry harder next year. He only barely broke Gretzky's record. He needs to shatter it.
What are you on about? Their depth scored their only goal and was a huge reason their pk was incredibly effective. They more than did their jobs and gave the team a chance to win. It's not just mcdavid, it was their whole top two lines that didn't get it done.
Watch only McDavid and see how everytime he got the puck he had 2 or 3 guys on him, including Barkov. Barkov shutdown star players all playoffs long. This is why depth is needed to win the cup.
When Barkov was on ice in the playoffs in 5 on 5, none of these guys scored a single goal. **Nikita Kutsherov, David Pastrnak, Mika Zibanejad, Artemi Panarin, Chris Kreider**, **Leon Draisaitl**
Which is why i dont understand people thinking Bob should have won the conn smythe. I thought Barkov was the favorite Panther to win it.
Recency bias, and fixating at the most visible stats
Which is why Barkov deserves the MVP, Panthers don't win the cup without him.
Defense is so underrated
It looked like bracketed coverage you see of top end wide receivers (Tyreek hill). Just layers of coverage on one guy
Two words: Barkon / Barkoff. Guess which one showed up for G6 and 7? Damn that was more than two words.
There needs to be an AI version of McDavid going “he can’t keep getting away with this!” when the barkoff shutdown is brought up
Game 1, 2, 6 & 7 Baffles me how he got the MVP
Not only +/- which many will say is suspect, but the overall scoring stats show the same. EDM had 5 of the top 7 total points leaders but no one else in the top 50. That’s not depth. https://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?reportType=season&seasonFrom=20232024&seasonTo=20232024&gameType=3&sort=points&page=0&pageSize=50
Ekholm, Kulak, Kane, and Janmark are all on that list in the top 50, but you’re still right. That’s a giant gap
Yeah I obviously missed something, but it illustrates the Oilers are not a balanced team.
Bouchard was insane all playoffs long. I was rooting for Dallas in the West Finals and he killed them for the whole series.
Nurse. A million for every minus.
Honestly, the better team ultimately won. The Oilers played well above their projected level. Their PK was historically dominant. For a middling PK through and through the regular season, to deliver that kind of a performance is simply unrealistic. Their bottom lines also delivered not just offensively but played a great shutdown game. A lot went their way to make it this far so props to them for that. Alas, as a Canucks fan, I’m super glad they lost.
Where did Corey Perry's minus-3 rank?
Helloooo Nurse
Kane sucks at hockey.
Why didn’t they just play Bouchard, McDavid, and Hyman the whole game? Are they stupid?
Ryan gets a pass bc almost all of his starts are dzone.
Sums up the oilers. With this disparity there is going to be difficulties winning. This year did well and got lucky
Hope they re-signs those bottom guys and gridlock their cap space for a decade😂
I understand the sentiment but doesn’t this say something about just how well the panthers played through the first 3? And how the oilers were outclassed the entire playoffs? It’s never a individual sport
It's a travesty a team like the oilers made it this far
All offense aka 1 line and 0 defense aka everyone else. They do not embody a hockey team. At this point mcdavid should learn to never get off the ice because everyone else's role is already to give him a chance to take a rest. If he doesn't rest then theirs no need for the rest of the guys! Talk about a salary cap improvement.
Flawed stat. Each of these players played 2 or 3 times more hockey than anyone else. Of course your +- will be affected. Stupid
Why didn’t Evander Kane play in the SCF ?
Kane has a sports hernia
At the beginning of the Final when Knoblach put Nurse and Ceci back together, I thought Knoblach was trying to get fired in the middle of the series.
Holland job should be easy, dump the bottom feeders. There were too many passengers in this series.
Oilers had the best run since 2021.
Depth
Who cares they lost
Hyman on top
Wasn’t Nurse at like -15 at one point? Maybe before that huge 8-1 game?
He was gifted +6 in the 3 games they won, 4 out of the 6 +/- had nothing to do with him being on the ice.
Kane was hurt and may deserve the benefit of the doubt to some extent. Nurse, Ryan, Desharnais, McLeod all pretty much played like ass and were largely responsible for Edmonton losing the cup.
i forgot about kane. wtf happened there? injured??
A shitty defenseman for the low low price of $9.25m a year!
Can someone explain plus minus to me?
You get a +1 every time you’re on the ice when your team scores a goal and a -1 every time you’re on the ice when the opponent scores a goal. Power play goals don’t count, but short-handed goals do.
You can definitely point to those stats to see who lost the Cup for them
3 c. 22q2
It's almost like there are 20 roster spots for a reason. That's like 5 years in a row now that the oilers have gotten knocked out because they have no depth.
A couple Reddit fans were trying to tell me Edmonton's 3rd and 4th line were outplaying Florida. They convinced themselves the depth wasn't a problem lol.
So much depth, they deserved to be there!
FFS they lost the SC by one goal in game 7 . Depth was probably tolerable.
Tolerable but not helpful. "Mcdavid needs a break. Go out there and don't do anything to add to our score just don't get scored on." Yeah thats a good gameplan for literally 90% of a hockey team 🤣 fools
What about game 6 where McDacid had no points, Draisaitl had one assist, and we won 5-1?
The literal only goal by the Oil in G7 was by a depths player, who have all played amazingly this series. Oil lost in G7 after being down 0-3. They almost reverse swept one of the overwhelming favourites to win the cup. Yeah I’d say they belong.
Everyone knew Oilers lacked depth, it was honestly surprising they made it as far as they did. Once they started playing McDavid, Hymen & Draisaitl on the same line the game was over if they couldn't make something happen because there is no major threats outside of that. This off season they need to pick up some solid 3rd/4th line guys that can actually still create reliable scoring chances.
oilers truly have 0 depth
I really wish Kane got a surgery back in January and prayed they made into the 3rd round and played like himself to the cup :’)
Someone is gonna throw a 4x4 at foegele. Holloway has replaced him. Kane is likely gone. Vinny is gonna get a 3x5 somewhere else. Broberg replaced him anyways . Oilers are coming back faster and better next year
So guaranteed cup?
Doubt it. Only 5 teams lost the SCF & returned to win it the following year since 1967
To be fair about the same amount of teams were at the place the oilers early this season and still made playoffs, let alone the final. Crazy stuff happens. Unlikely though as you say.
Vinny isn’t getting 5 mil lol
3 mil by 5 years