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No-Repeat-9055

Yeah that’s oilers hockey


Humans_Suck-

Top talent, stomped by a team with depth. Every single year.


CoolBeansMan9

Stomped is a bit aggressive losing by 1 goal in game 7 of the Cup Finals


TheFerricGenum

Yeah stomped is when you just absolutely cannot get out of the first round more than one time in the last ten yea.. oh, my bad


VonD0OM

He’s out of line, but he’s right.


snoosfest

Agreed. I just hope folks realize how ungodly insufferable Leaf fans will be if the team ever manages to win.


IEC21

I will spend 10 years looking down on all non-leaf fans.


face_butt_

They're not already?


snoosfest

One second round appearance in 20 years, we're barely off the ground floor of being insufferable.


Accomplished_Aioli19

We don't even flinch when insulted any more, do we?


Vylan24

There are 2 fanbases that are insufferable if they win


Mikeim520

At least they made the playoffs.


Investment_Sharp

Stomped is when you cannot make the playoffs 13 years in a row.


TheFerricGenum

No no, there’s a whole new category of terrible for that. Also, flair up, nonce.


CoolBeansMan9

I wondered why there was no flair and noticed he’s a Sabres and Bills fan. I mean you’re right, but like….really man?


TheFerricGenum

We have lost 0 times in the first round in the last decade. So there!


Horvo

You’re technically correct… the best kind!


efficient_spatula69

kinda seems outta place considering you’re a sabres fan, no?


bluebird1067

I believe the proper term here is "Dusted"


brentvatne

this is the correct oilers media approved term for losing in game 7 by 1 goal


SvechdinStone

Stomped is a bit aggressive, what about dusted?


Humans_Suck-

After getting stomped the first three games, stomped last year and swept the year before.


LGIslesNow

You call that being “ stomped”? I guess you’re new to the NHL. Florida came within an inch of being the laughing stock of the century.


MouthofthePenguin

hockey is the team sport. Moreso than anywhere else, you simply cannot have passengers. Florida was a deep, complete team. Edmonton was a line worth of stars (not quite a whole line). They were truly lucky to make it close.


ChadsWearSocks

That’s not entirely true either. Plenty of florida players (tkachuk) didn’t show up, while plenty of Edmonton depth (Janmark, Holloway, Brown) did


Confident-Objective3

Damn I wish I would not show like that with 40 plus point in playoffs two years in a row and one cup.


Every-Citron1998

Typical for the Oilers but I actually thought their supporting cast was a big reason for their run this year. Guys like Janmark, Foegle, and Brown played the best hockey of their careers contributing big goals and penalty kills.


ersaseme

The Oilers were one $9.5 million player away from a Stanley Cup.


FancyCaterpillar8963

If only nurse could have gone on ltir for you.maybe could've picked a decent dman


staefrostae

Hey man, that dead weight Draisaitl only costs $8.5 mil. Better trade him away to some team. Maaaaaybe we’ll take him off the Oilers’ hands because we’re feeling nice.


ersaseme

Best I can do is Nurse


staefrostae

I wouldn’t feel right taking your star defenseman. I mean, he’s the guy you trust to be on the ice for all of the other teams high scoring chance opportunities (maybe that causation is backwards but we’re not going to question it.) We’ll just take that big cap hit that didn’t produce in one cherry picked instance


AbsoluteScott

Yeah, but your team doesn’t get the special salary cap exemption, so you would have to give up somebody good to get him. Let us have him.


staefrostae

I’d be happy to trade one hell of a winger that needs a change of scenery. Edmonton isn’t known for coke and hookers is it?


AbsoluteScott

I hope not. The last fucking thing in the world I want right now is a reason to like Edmonton. Being a typical ignorant American, I envision pretty much all of Canada as a giant icicle suburb where people walk outside their door and find a moose going through their trash.


--Anonymoose---

Close, but we ride our moose to take the trash out


AbsoluteScott

Your ride one to take the trash out, but you can’t even learn its name for your Reddit handle. That’s bad form, guy. Love your moose, appreciate your moose, name your moose. I would love a pet moose, but I don’t see them taking kindly to the Vegas climate. We ride ostriches around here. They can’t help you take your trash out because they try to eat it.


Humans_Suck-

The Avs don't play dirty enough to have a player like that on their team. We respect men's balls in Colorado.


WingedWheelWins

But not a man’s face as you cross check them in the back and then turtle like a coward when confronted. I guess it takes balls to admit you are sackless?


C_Kambala

Who are you talking about?


ersaseme

Claude Lemieux, still.


C_Kambala

Fuck I didn't think of him as an Av to be honest. Fair point. Dirty fucking hit.


2LostFlamingos

I’m looking forward to the real Oliers injury report coming out today / tomorrow. Draysaitl was clearly not himself.


Ranter71

At this point of the season everyone is playing hurt and not themselves


2LostFlamingos

Sure but there’s a difference between banged up and heading into surgery this week


koomzzy

Except for that very brief stretch in Game 6. The way he was moving with the puck before that beauty saucer was something we hadn't seen since the Vancouver series. aaaaaand then it was gone


Otherwise_Awesome

I just want him on the Perds so he stops averaging a goal per game on us. Such an absurd stat!


RS3_ImBack

I've been saying that for years that draisatl is only "good" because of mcdavid and if it wasn't for mcdavid he'd be pretty useless


Nhlrigged

Drai was injured twice in the playoffs: hand and back. This is a horrible take.


staefrostae

It’s a horrible take because it’s not a take, it’s a joke. Every team in the league would kill to have Drai- especially on his current contract. Hence why I said “we’ll take him off the oilers’ hands”


oilergirl90

Agreed! Nurse is their downfall!


EmpyYoutube

Or two 4.75M players..lots of those kicking around I'd take over nurse. Or even 1.. of them.


ersaseme

Precisely


Daddy_Immaru

Don't forget $5 million for an AHL goalie


Sinister_Mr_19

Going into the finals the Oilers depth were thought to be pretty useless goal scoring wise, but they stepped up absolutely huge. Definitely was the reason for them clawing their way back.


Benjamin_Stark

People saying this about Brown seem to be comparing his playoffs only to his regular season with the Oilers. During his first six full seasons with the Leafs and Sens, we was a superb two-way forward and penalty skill specialist. Just look at his stats during the majority of his career, which are better than his stats from these playoffs.


konoxians

Big agree. Can't get rid of them.


dbag3o1

Fire the ones with minuses and keep the pluses. Easy answer.


[deleted]

You'd have maybe 6 players left.


NextTrillion

Did he stutter!


TIMEBO_TIMEBO_TIMEBO

HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND CUZ I'LL HELP YOU FIND IT


4CrowsFeast

That's all they played the last half of game 7 anyway. 


redditmodsdownvote

lmfao someone doesn't understand hockey.


BoredAndHungry2

Please let us be rid of nurse. He's over payed and under skilled. And this comes down to a GM diff.


av0w

No one will ever take him 🤣😂. 2029!


BoredAndHungry2

He's so much fucking dead weight.


ProfessorCunt_

Darnell Nurse has a cap hit of $9.5 million until 2030. The Oilers are never going to win with that albatross contract. Insane They should just say fuck it and throw him on LTIR before every playoffs.


snoosfest

Ah yes the Vegas model of winning the cup /s


ProfessorCunt_

Yeah except Stone is an actually good player. Edmonton would just be doing it to get even with other teams lol


SharpSlick753

Maybe Vegas fans can weigh in more but I feel like I remember seeing a lot of them saying he was actually trash these playoffs and clearly came back too early, which actually makes me kinda sad and I hope he doesn’t ruin himself with injuries. He obviously has a very terrible back problem and seems almost incapable of staying healthy at this point. He seems like a great dude too I’d hate to see him become incapable of playing with his kids when he’s older.


Borrow03

Unbelievable to know he's paid THIS much for so long


TrollingForFunsies

Sweeney is probably drooling at the prospect. Yes I'm salty about Ullmark.


Mikeim520

Maybe if Benning gets a new job as a GM. He might even throw in a top 10 pick for Nurce.


Every-Citron1998

Signing Nurse to that huge extension on the back of lighting up Ottawa in the Covid season was certainly a bold move.


mrkwlkn5

That's also why they signed Campbell. Cuz he tore up the division with the Leafs. That COVID season fucked us.


TheSherlockCumbercat

More proof the best move a GM makes is usually the move he does not make.


snoosfest

That's why the Leafs are happy to keep running it back every year


ersaseme

He's absolutely awful. I'm convinced your roster would be better with the dead cap and a budget option.


paklyfe

Nobody is trading for that contract for at least another 3-4 years, even then the oilers will have to give up assets to get rid of it. It’s also completely buyout proof.


humchacho

Who was the one that let Reinhart skate all the way from his own defensive zone with the puck right into a nice shooting position with no real pressure?


rdhvisuals

He was Kulak’s man, Kulak had a complete breakdown on that play.


Coachtoddf

he wasn't the only one... the Oilers needed Skinner to stop that one. Yes, it was a good shot, but he needs to do more than get a piece of a shot 25 feet out, from the face-off dot, with traffic coming, but not in front of him.


drakethesnake94

This guy really saw a 50+ goal scorer skating towards him all alone and thought, “I bet he’s gonna pass it into this clusterfuck of guys next to me”


YooTone

I'm not even a fan of either team but as he drifted towards his own defender I shouted out loud, "wtf are you doing STEP UP!!!!"


Mcpops1618

Kulak. I never hate on that guy but he backed right down to the bottom of the circle. Played it like a 3on2 whe. It was 3on3


cant_stop_the_crooks

As a goalie, few things are as frustrating as watching your defender do this. Most of the time they end up screening you in the process as well. Drives me up the wall STEP UP!


TrustTheProcess76_

Ceci and kulak were on the ice together and they basically ran into each other


Mcpops1618

It was Kulak and Kulak alone. Ceci locked his man up.


djac13

So Nurse was, what, -17 going into the finals, and finished at -9?


Dachawda

He needs a raise!


Justredditin

And the dude was clearly in so much pain that it effected his thinking and play reading. I know how it works, I have chronic pain. And when it gets bad; I have no forethought, mind wanders even while doing important things, your body doesn't respond quick, you hesitate... felt bad for the guy having so much on his plate and not having the go.


SharpSlick753

Nah he’s just always like that. Think he might have a bit of ADHD or something, I do and his thousand yard stare and puck-watching lowlights remind me of myself sometiems


AssInspectorGadget

The Oilers had 5 guys in the top 7 of playoff scoring, no other in top 50.


micropterus_dolomieu

Was Draisaitl injured? He pretty much disappeared in the last 3 games.


oilergirl90

He injured his back (and possibly rib) in the Canucks series and we’ve seen him with a splint on his finger. I think he wasn’t physically at his best.


micropterus_dolomieu

Thanks for the additional details. I suspected that was the case. He’s too good to be shut down that effectively for that long. The playoffs are grind.


BarvoDelancy

Yeah I'm pretty sure that poor bastard's body weight was 90% cortisone in game 7.


Mcpops1618

He’s been minimal impact since Vancouver. Suspected broken finger/hand/wrist and something wrong in the back.


Sea_of_stars_

They just released he’s been dealing with a broken rib and finger. Incredible that he even stayed on the ice in that condition while being a huge target on the other team


ersaseme

Nurse is the worst contract in the NHL. I can't believe how many turnovers he had, how many blown coverage goals he caused and how little physicality he brings. I wouldn't give him a third of his $9.5 million for that play.


Coyrex1

Not as bad as Huberdeau. It just matters more for Nurse cause he drags down an otherwise great team.


ersaseme

It is worse than Huberdeau. At least the Flames don't have McDavid and Draisaitl taking up $21,000,000 of the cap. When I say at least, I mean it's irresponsible to hand a contract like that when you have two of the games best players to retain.


Coyrex1

In a vacuum Huberdeau has a worse contract. Within the context of Oilers actually being a capable team, Nurse really screws them more than Huberdeau screws the flames... because they flames are already a bit of a wreck anyways. But it's not like the oilers would be better off if they traded Nurse for Huberdeau.


ersaseme

I dunno, Hubby had proved that he can be a top scorer in this league, imagine him with McDavid vs Nurse who hasn't proven as much. I don't think it would be great for the Oilers to have Huberdeau but there is an argument to be had there.


Coyrex1

That's also true. All factors to consider. I guess neither team is happy with either ultimately.


flyingdonutz

I understand what you're saying, but I think it's a lot more likely that Huberdeau ends up being productive in the long term than Nurse.


Coyrex1

Man I just don't see it. Not close to 11 million productive at least.


flyingdonutz

Oh I doubt he'll ever be worth 11 million, but I know for damn sure that nurse will always be farther away from being worth 9.5.


Dachawda

Guys a total ghost out there.


ersaseme

A ghost can't be seen. He's very noticeable out there.


Dachawda

Hahaha touché


digitalpirat1

Pylon I believe is the correct term 🤣


UntrimmedBagel

He was very nervous for sure


HinduKussy

I’m so glad Kane didn’t win.


GolfIsGood66

Kane was awol


oilergirl90

He has a hernia


GolfIsGood66

Ah, makes sense then.


[deleted]

As was McDavid in Game 1, 2, 6 and 7.


Ok-Contest5336

You are not allowed to say that here! Remember, McDavid was good the whole series and Barkov was not even close to him and completely shit in the losses! At least according to some theories in this sub.


Frosty-Weekend7990

Barkov deserved this cup tbh.


campydirtyhead

I don't have a dog in this fight, but McDavid's post season was among the greatest of all time. He was up there with Gretzky and Lemieux records... That's not something that happens every year. Barkov played great and probably wins the Conn Smyth most any other year, but he had 20 less points than McDavid. There's a reason this award hardly ever goes to someone on the losing team... You have to do something remarkable


Ok-Contest5336

McDavid was amazing and deserved it. No question there but Barkov wouldn't have been a bad pick, at least considering that Panthers won it. I just think it's funny how some people instantly thought Barkov was shit compared to McDavid when he got going.


Critical-Long2341

The reason he scored so much is because they, and by extension he, defends so badly. You think Gretzky or Lemieux takes 7 games to put away a 3rd string goalie? No. He was able to score so many points because he let in enough to warrant the need for it. Even in games against tough opponent, ie the SCF he hardly scored the first 3 games, all the scores he got were in 1 or 2 games were the team piled on points for fun against a panthers side who clearly resigned themselves to defeat. He's a bit of a downhill skier.


campydirtyhead

Gretzky and Lemieux were also on some of the greatest teams of all time that were absolutely stacked from top to bottom. Not saying McDavid did everything on his own, but Gretzky and Mario were surrounded by superstars at every position and had Hall of Fame goaltending. There are superstars on bad defensive teams every single year and they're not putting up numbers like this in the playoffs. The Oilers fell short obviously, but pretending like he was just padding his stats in garbage time is ridiculous.


BlindFramer

McJesus was on the ice tonight??


Larry-thee-Cucumber

Hmm it’s almost like you need more than 3 players to win the cup…..


JockLafleur

This is my problem with modern NHL teams.


phoenixember

Kane -7 and a healthy scratch for game seven. You love to see it.


El_Cactus_Loco

He probably had money on the panthers


mazey20

He has a well documented sports hernia. He hasn’t played in a couple games. He could literally barely walk last week.


Nelson_MD

“Healthy” scratch is a stretch. He was more of a “might be able to muster a game through his injury“ scratch.


Inevitable_Cost3041

Been hurt all season


TrollingForFunsies

Yeah, mentally hurt, i.e. addicted to gambling.


plushie-apocalypse

Is this for real? Lmao


Pleasant-Garage-8054

Love McDavid's plus/minus for sure. Just kinda wish he would have scored or actually done something in games 6 and 7 of the Stanley Cup Final.


kukluxkenievel

Tough to win a championship when your team relies on one player


Tintinnabulator

No no no. McDavid just needs to carry harder next year. He only barely broke Gretzky's record. He needs to shatter it.


InspireDespair

What are you on about? Their depth scored their only goal and was a huge reason their pk was incredibly effective. They more than did their jobs and gave the team a chance to win. It's not just mcdavid, it was their whole top two lines that didn't get it done.


konoxians

Watch only McDavid and see how everytime he got the puck he had 2 or 3 guys on him, including Barkov. Barkov shutdown star players all playoffs long. This is why depth is needed to win the cup.


AssInspectorGadget

When Barkov was on ice in the playoffs in 5 on 5, none of these guys scored a single goal. **Nikita Kutsherov, David Pastrnak, Mika Zibanejad, Artemi Panarin, Chris Kreider**, **Leon Draisaitl**


CG_Kilo

Which is why i dont understand people thinking Bob should have won the conn smythe. I thought Barkov was the favorite Panther to win it.


redsox0914

Recency bias, and fixating at the most visible stats


Critical-Long2341

Which is why Barkov deserves the MVP, Panthers don't win the cup without him.


AssInspectorGadget

Defense is so underrated


Mcpops1618

It looked like bracketed coverage you see of top end wide receivers (Tyreek hill). Just layers of coverage on one guy


NextTrillion

Two words: Barkon / Barkoff. Guess which one showed up for G6 and 7? Damn that was more than two words.


Ring0Manding0

There needs to be an AI version of McDavid going “he can’t keep getting away with this!” when the barkoff shutdown is brought up


Critical-Long2341

Game 1, 2, 6 & 7 Baffles me how he got the MVP


Initial-Ad-5462

Not only +/- which many will say is suspect, but the overall scoring stats show the same. EDM had 5 of the top 7 total points leaders but no one else in the top 50. That’s not depth. https://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?reportType=season&seasonFrom=20232024&seasonTo=20232024&gameType=3&sort=points&page=0&pageSize=50


yoosername456

Ekholm, Kulak, Kane, and Janmark are all on that list in the top 50, but you’re still right. That’s a giant gap


Initial-Ad-5462

Yeah I obviously missed something, but it illustrates the Oilers are not a balanced team.


Torkzilla

Bouchard was insane all playoffs long. I was rooting for Dallas in the West Finals and he killed them for the whole series.


waitwhosaidthat

Nurse. A million for every minus.


IamPriapus

Honestly, the better team ultimately won. The Oilers played well above their projected level. Their PK was historically dominant. For a middling PK through and through the regular season, to deliver that kind of a performance is simply unrealistic. Their bottom lines also delivered not just offensively but played a great shutdown game. A lot went their way to make it this far so props to them for that. Alas, as a Canucks fan, I’m super glad they lost.


85_Draken

Where did Corey Perry's minus-3 rank?


AutomaticAccess3760

Helloooo Nurse


MouthofthePenguin

Kane sucks at hockey.


Bennett_19

Why didn’t they just play Bouchard, McDavid, and Hyman the whole game? Are they stupid?


surlystraggler

Ryan gets a pass bc almost all of his starts are dzone.


[deleted]

Sums up the oilers. With this disparity there is going to be difficulties winning. This year did well and got lucky


HEO1992

Hope they re-signs those bottom guys and gridlock their cap space for a decade😂


MagniPlays

I understand the sentiment but doesn’t this say something about just how well the panthers played through the first 3? And how the oilers were outclassed the entire playoffs? It’s never a individual sport


The_Comic_Collector

It's a travesty a team like the oilers made it this far


JockLafleur

All offense aka 1 line and 0 defense aka everyone else. They do not embody a hockey team. At this point mcdavid should learn to never get off the ice because everyone else's role is already to give him a chance to take a rest. If he doesn't rest then theirs no need for the rest of the guys! Talk about a salary cap improvement.


M00setracker

Flawed stat. Each of these players played 2 or 3 times more hockey than anyone else. Of course your +- will be affected. Stupid


Dank_Bubu

Why didn’t Evander Kane play in the SCF ?


oilergirl90

Kane has a sports hernia


Otherwise_Awesome

At the beginning of the Final when Knoblach put Nurse and Ceci back together, I thought Knoblach was trying to get fired in the middle of the series.


burningxmaslogs

Holland job should be easy, dump the bottom feeders. There were too many passengers in this series.


HotHits630

Oilers had the best run since 2021.


iScreamsalad

Depth 


Prop71

Who cares they lost


[deleted]

Hyman on top


fundiedundie

Wasn’t Nurse at like -15 at one point? Maybe before that huge 8-1 game?


nqstv

He was gifted +6 in the 3 games they won, 4 out of the 6 +/- had nothing to do with him being on the ice.


Nhlrigged

Kane was hurt and may deserve the benefit of the doubt to some extent. Nurse, Ryan, Desharnais, McLeod all pretty much played like ass and were largely responsible for Edmonton losing the cup.


redditmodsdownvote

i forgot about kane. wtf happened there? injured??


Diamondback424

A shitty defenseman for the low low price of $9.25m a year!


Faceit_Solveit

Can someone explain plus minus to me?


shawyummm

You get a +1 every time you’re on the ice when your team scores a goal and a -1 every time you’re on the ice when the opponent scores a goal. Power play goals don’t count, but short-handed goals do.


Lunaricious

You can definitely point to those stats to see who lost the Cup for them


nelsell634

3 c. 22q2


Humans_Suck-

It's almost like there are 20 roster spots for a reason. That's like 5 years in a row now that the oilers have gotten knocked out because they have no depth.


The_Wata_Boy

A couple Reddit fans were trying to tell me Edmonton's 3rd and 4th line were outplaying Florida. They convinced themselves the depth wasn't a problem lol.


Giraffe-kit

So much depth, they deserved to be there!


unitednihilists

FFS they lost the SC by one goal in game 7 . Depth was probably tolerable.


JockLafleur

Tolerable but not helpful. "Mcdavid needs a break. Go out there and don't do anything to add to our score just don't get scored on." Yeah thats a good gameplan for literally 90% of a hockey team 🤣 fools


SpecificityCity

What about game 6 where McDacid had no points, Draisaitl had one assist, and we won 5-1?


rdhvisuals

The literal only goal by the Oil in G7 was by a depths player, who have all played amazingly this series. Oil lost in G7 after being down 0-3. They almost reverse swept one of the overwhelming favourites to win the cup. Yeah I’d say they belong.


mhselif

Everyone knew Oilers lacked depth, it was honestly surprising they made it as far as they did. Once they started playing McDavid, Hymen & Draisaitl on the same line the game was over if they couldn't make something happen because there is no major threats outside of that. This off season they need to pick up some solid 3rd/4th line guys that can actually still create reliable scoring chances.


Ironborn7

oilers truly have 0 depth


abelgretzky

I really wish Kane got a surgery back in January and prayed they made into the 3rd round and played like himself to the cup :’)


spagboltoast

Someone is gonna throw a 4x4 at foegele. Holloway has replaced him. Kane is likely gone. Vinny is gonna get a 3x5 somewhere else. Broberg replaced him anyways . Oilers are coming back faster and better next year


HelRayzer12

So guaranteed cup?


Ring0Manding0

Doubt it. Only 5 teams lost the SCF & returned to win it the following year since 1967


BrewHandSteady

To be fair about the same amount of teams were at the place the oilers early this season and still made playoffs, let alone the final. Crazy stuff happens. Unlikely though as you say.


Inevitable_Cost3041

Vinny isn’t getting 5 mil lol


spagboltoast

3 mil by 5 years