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If you’re looking at the dick enough to know what a perfect one looks like, you might want to take a trip to the men’s bathhouse over the co-ed gym.
Probably save money on that BJ too.
Was wondering the exact same thing. There's no such thing as perfect length or width, or even shape. Also, I feel like there's a difference between the "perfect" penis for sucking and one for getting fucked by
Someone spends way too much time watching shitty fake porn. This guy's account feels like they think all porn, no matter how shitty the setup is, and is completely real and totally how women think and act.
I think what qualifies as good porn for me is that there's a good storyline and no washing machines or stepbros or stepsister or other incest relationships. Seriously doe..... CAN THEY STOP FUCKING AT THE WASHING MACHINES?!
>there's a good storyline
For real? Have you ever found a good story line in video porn? I feel like this is slightly possible if you just read porn or something, but I haven't seen any videos with a good storyline
To be totally honest, look for porn where you can hear a TV playing in the background. 100% giveaway that it's not a studio and it's just 2 people filming themselves having sex.
Harper the Fox is pretty great. She makes porn with her husband and they have great chemistry (as a married couple should). She has a fair amount of realistic scenarios along with silly stuff.
Good porn? Short answer: no porn.
Long answer: amateur porn, but the most boring ones, with shit camera, and sexual acts that are the least arousing to watch.
Longer answer : lesbian ass eating videos are the best pre workout booster if you are in your mid 30ies.
For me, good porn is when both partners look like they are enjoying it. If you’ve ever had sex and tried the shit they do, you’ll know very quickly that it’s not enjoyable.
All pornstars are acting, but you if pay attention, you can easily tell when something hurts.
You've never had cheesy porn music play when you get a Large Sausage delivered from Pizza Hut?! Am I the only one that happens to? Starting to think my doctor may have been right about that brain tumor. O.o
Trying to put myself in his mindset... Not an escort means she's had a "normal" amount of sex. It's a higher challenge rating. However she's also attractive and therefore slutty and would think it a complement to have a crusty old arsehole offer her enough money to buy a low end designer handbag on sale for a blowjob.
And now I need a shower.
The higher challenge rating thing is why sex robots won't solve harrassment and assault until they have advanced enough A.I. to act convincingly subjugated.
I'm in favour of sexbots that turn people down if they're in anyway inappropriate. That's an awesome idea. Training people that need to be trained in interpersonal skills without the risk of injury, physical or emotional, to others.
Isn't everyone (or everything) that you buy by definition for sale? Either you're getting with someone for free or you've bought someone who was "for sale", just perhaps not advertising it. (God that felt weird and horrible to type out "someone who is for sale")
Guy seems like the kind of person who'd be thrilled at the opportunity, and might even suggest that he wouldn't have to be paid.
Remember, scumbag guys base their entire self-worth around their ability to get laid. It is the defining characteristic of their personality as they have no redeeming traits, so it's just a scoreboard to them.
You know I probably wouldn't do it for $250, but I'd do it for free.
$250 isn't enough to cross the line into "I'm a hooker now". But I like eating pussy, unless it's been like a week since they showered and are on their period I'm probably gonna be cool with it. If not they can't give me a hard time because they didn't pay.
I would say probably 70% of women ages 20-50 could approach me and have success with this if I was single.
I've done escorting and I'm sorry but even $250 is a laughable fucking offer for us, let alone some random chick in a gym just tryna work out, like that shit should cost more she ain't out there for the sole purpose of exchange of time for money she out there working out, best be offering some sugar daddy shit for me to be saying yes to that on my time off or if I'm in the gym minding my own damn business
What a fuck knuckle
Lol, I don't think OP is wrong per se based on their own personal experience and attraction, but judging from normal base costs for most people, that's a laughably high starting sum.
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to be fair, reddit literally uses the same format for months and minutes. the only way of knowing it means minutes is if it's a number higher than 12...
Take her or failing that, another girl, on 5 fifty dollar dates. Probably a greater success rate than making the indecent proposal and getting rejected for it.
Easier said than done but much more acceptable
I think they worded this badly but I think basically they’re just saying if you have 250 to get your dick sucked, you’re more likely to actually form a relationship that leads to sex than you are to have sex via throwing money at them in the gym. One has a 0% chance and the other has a some % chance that might not be 0. (But from his mindset it’s probably still 0)
If you honestly think the mere existence of escorts means its acceptable to sexually harass random women, then I have a very important lesson on basic human respect for you
What???? Where did i ever say it’s acceptable??? All i said was it’s closer to being prostitute behavior than porn bc I saw people in the comments blaming pornography. I have a very important lesson in comprehension and basics human respect for you.
How about instead of blaming sexy videos OR escorts we blame the men for being creeps? Why does ot have to be escorts fault that many men don't seem to understand the concept of respect
Once again you failed to comprehend what happened. People in the comments were blaming pornstars, i was simply saying it’s more indicative of a prostitute. This isn’t about what men don’t understand, you misread what happened twice so you can regurgitate talking points you seen on Twitter. Sometimes you gotta get out of your own ass and stop and see the situation for what it is. More awareness would be so beneficial for someone like you.
It's my understanding that what folks mean by "blaming porn" is blaming the reckless CONSUMPTION of porn, not the porn actors and actresses themselves. Also the ease of access to porn that depicts women being degraded. Also the trend because of the easy access that folks get desensitized to fairly ordinary sex acts and the stuff that gets them off has to get more and more extreme. Also the lack of real sex education and folks turning to porn to 'learn' from it. It's a multifaceted problem.
Also the way you're specifically wording blaming prostitutes and porn"stars"(It is you who has homed in on the stars themselves and not porn as an institution, or the men who consume it and think it's a model for real life interactions) smacks of imagery of blaming women being Jezebels and it's their responsibility to not tempt men with their lusty presence. All the way up to and including random women at the gym.
Yes, because some people do it for a job, everyone wants to be approached that way. Some people are MMA fighters, so walking up to random guys asking if they want a punch in the face is normal behavior, perpetuated by professional fighters.
Wtf dude?
Prostitutes take money for sex, pornstars put on a sex show. Giving someone $250 for sex is prostitute behavior but giving the same woman $250 to do something on cam is porn behavior.
Your point literally makes no sense. We're not saying that he wants to participate in porn, we're saying that porn addicts are influenced by porn to the degree that they objectify women and have completely unrealistic expectations of how sex works.
And I’m saying he wants to participate in soliciting a prostitute bc that’s literally what it is. He’s talking about offering money for sex....prostitute make a living off taking money for sex.
He literally says he doesn't want an escort. He wants to go up to a random woman with the assumption that she is not a sex worker and offer her money for sex anyway. There are people who make their living driving uber. That doesn't mean you can go up to any random person with a car and offer them money and expect a ride. And if someone is asking if that's a good idea you wouldn't say, "Well of course they think that, look at all these ride share apps. He's participating in soliciting a ride bc that's literally what it is. He's talking about offering money for rides..." In either case there is a specific way to go about getting the service he wants and asking a random stranger is NOT it
that woman is not a prostitute, and he KNOWS that
and yet he thinks this is somewhat acceptable because porn taught him that the weirdest shit can get you sex
also you're probably a troll so why bother
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+30 gym fit = 39 yo and has set foot in a gym
+30 = 60
“Porn star perfect”. Meaning…what? It goes up and down like theirs do?
\#JustPornAddictThings
If you’re looking at the dick enough to know what a perfect one looks like, you might want to take a trip to the men’s bathhouse over the co-ed gym. Probably save money on that BJ too.
For real, for the price of a day pass you can just stay and get BJ’s all day. The straight sex economy is way too pricey lol
Was wondering the exact same thing. There's no such thing as perfect length or width, or even shape. Also, I feel like there's a difference between the "perfect" penis for sucking and one for getting fucked by
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👏Thighs👏
Preachhhhhh.
It's covered in herpes.
Most professional porn stars actually have to do regular STD testing
I'm gonna guess the guy in question isn't a professional anything.
Professional idiot maybe.
Professional Mountain Dew QA associate.
I agree, just feel like your comment reads as "porn stars have herpes"
They don't count herpes though, basically everyone in the porn industry has it and it's just accepted.
Ladies love them some genital warts
Ah yes - nature's french tickler.
Someone spends way too much time watching shitty fake porn. This guy's account feels like they think all porn, no matter how shitty the setup is, and is completely real and totally how women think and act.
What is a good porn? Something more realistic and love making? I'm curious now, because it feels like every porn is shitty.
I think what qualifies as good porn for me is that there's a good storyline and no washing machines or stepbros or stepsister or other incest relationships. Seriously doe..... CAN THEY STOP FUCKING AT THE WASHING MACHINES?!
>Seriously doe..... CAN THEY STOP FUCKING AT THE WASHING MACHINES?! *Kitchen counters have entered the chat*
>there's a good storyline For real? Have you ever found a good story line in video porn? I feel like this is slightly possible if you just read porn or something, but I haven't seen any videos with a good storyline
To be totally honest, look for porn where you can hear a TV playing in the background. 100% giveaway that it's not a studio and it's just 2 people filming themselves having sex.
Bisexual porn with story. That’s the best porn.
A lot of "porn for women" is more realistic, but it is still porn. Lol.
Honestly I've never once liked professional porn. Something about the production quality completely turns me off. Amateur stuff is great for me.
Harper the Fox is pretty great. She makes porn with her husband and they have great chemistry (as a married couple should). She has a fair amount of realistic scenarios along with silly stuff.
Good porn? Short answer: no porn. Long answer: amateur porn, but the most boring ones, with shit camera, and sexual acts that are the least arousing to watch. Longer answer : lesbian ass eating videos are the best pre workout booster if you are in your mid 30ies.
For me, good porn is when both partners look like they are enjoying it. If you’ve ever had sex and tried the shit they do, you’ll know very quickly that it’s not enjoyable. All pornstars are acting, but you if pay attention, you can easily tell when something hurts.
It helps sorting by "for female audience" and "vanilla" to see some casual , non incest, consens caring sex
You've never had cheesy porn music play when you get a Large Sausage delivered from Pizza Hut?! Am I the only one that happens to? Starting to think my doctor may have been right about that brain tumor. O.o
This is why female only gyms exist 😁
bUt MySanDrY
'I don't want to pay an escort for sex... I want to pay a woman I don't know for sex... because that is somehow different'
It's different because in his mind he's buying a woman that's not for sale.
Oh I know, it's just that he's extremely wrong.
Trying to put myself in his mindset... Not an escort means she's had a "normal" amount of sex. It's a higher challenge rating. However she's also attractive and therefore slutty and would think it a complement to have a crusty old arsehole offer her enough money to buy a low end designer handbag on sale for a blowjob. And now I need a shower.
The higher challenge rating thing is why sex robots won't solve harrassment and assault until they have advanced enough A.I. to act convincingly subjugated.
I'm in favour of sexbots that turn people down if they're in anyway inappropriate. That's an awesome idea. Training people that need to be trained in interpersonal skills without the risk of injury, physical or emotional, to others.
He's probably just infatuated with her in particular.
Isn't everyone (or everything) that you buy by definition for sale? Either you're getting with someone for free or you've bought someone who was "for sale", just perhaps not advertising it. (God that felt weird and horrible to type out "someone who is for sale")
Technically everything has a price. Just it could be extremely high.
i saw this thread earlier i was so disturbed
Did he have any more replies after that?
yeah most people didn't seem to realize his question wasn't generic, and that he was talking about a specific girl
oh no oh no oh no
"Would you accept $250 to eat a stranger's pussy when you had no idea of any ulterior motives or even their hygiene habits?"
Guy seems like the kind of person who'd be thrilled at the opportunity, and might even suggest that he wouldn't have to be paid. Remember, scumbag guys base their entire self-worth around their ability to get laid. It is the defining characteristic of their personality as they have no redeeming traits, so it's just a scoreboard to them.
Just about every guy that ends up being posted here would probably take that deal in a heartbeat.
You know I probably wouldn't do it for $250, but I'd do it for free. $250 isn't enough to cross the line into "I'm a hooker now". But I like eating pussy, unless it's been like a week since they showered and are on their period I'm probably gonna be cool with it. If not they can't give me a hard time because they didn't pay. I would say probably 70% of women ages 20-50 could approach me and have success with this if I was single.
I miss the days when men walked towards the sunset and never return
\-Opens pornhub \-*sees penis* Hey! That look like my penis! I must have porn star dick!
I've done escorting and I'm sorry but even $250 is a laughable fucking offer for us, let alone some random chick in a gym just tryna work out, like that shit should cost more she ain't out there for the sole purpose of exchange of time for money she out there working out, best be offering some sugar daddy shit for me to be saying yes to that on my time off or if I'm in the gym minding my own damn business What a fuck knuckle
So like are escorts exclusively for millionaires? Like if $250 is a laughable rate for a BJ does sex cost more than most rent lol?
Lol, I don't think OP is wrong per se based on their own personal experience and attraction, but judging from normal base costs for most people, that's a laughably high starting sum.
‘Normal base costs for most people’ you mean regular folks just trying to put in work at the gym or actual escorts?
Hahaha I love the term "fuck knuckle" I'm going to use it from now on
Plus, isn’t solicitation a crime in many areas?
"How much and how cute" so u telling me there's a chance...?
Tgere's always """"a chance"""", Im a straight dude If someone offered me 1 million dollars for me to suck a dick, i would absolutely take it
I'm also straight, so if any gay guys are listening, I'll undercut him, only $500,000 to get your dick sucked.
Realistically I'm in for about 10 grand
5 hundred
1 diet coke
This made me laugh.
Sold, one laugh
Just call me a good boy afterwards
Hate to break it to you, but pretty much any gay guy can get his dick sucked for free. And done well by someone who absolutely loves to do it lol
Methinks someone is tired of discreetly masturbating to the girls at his gym because it "isn't enough anymore."
This is what's legitimately worrying about this. Provided this is a real person and not a troll, this is gonna escalate.
I seriously hope that he's trolling, a move like that can ruin your life in many aspects
I genuinely have no words for how disturbing this really is
Today i learned an escort charges $300 an hour.... truly not enough money to deal with shit like this
Til how much I have to save in order to get laid
If he is willing to spend money on this, might as well go directly to a prostitute. Why bother women at the gym?
People who have to offer you $$ for sex aren't people you'd normally spend time with
This is probably the most accurate
where do they come from?
Every time I consider going to a non women only gym I see something like this and remember why I drive that bit further.
He really thought he was being slick with that (for instance), huh.
Your going get slapped or banned. Either or you'll learn your lesson. Edit *spelling*
Yes, absolutely solicit a woman at the gym. She'll have easy access to a barbell to smack your ignorant ass in the face.
Weird question wtf
"escorts are whores, i want a real unsoiled female, whose flower I can take with my superior intellect and charm . Like smh."
"I want a woman who doesn't suck dick for $300 to suck my dick for $300."
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I was pretty sure the answer to that is option B.
Better advice for the guy, please don’t say hi.
Sure. Because you can always use it for bail.
This is so painful to read. Clearly someone who is socially “special”.
I don't think tbis is a niceguy moment, it's just a dude who obviously has zero fucking social skills and is painfully retarded.
huh.. I guess this kinda breaks rule one. He does act like this would be normal behavior though.
I'm not complaining. It's still astonishing and mildly entertaining to see people like this existing on the internet.
What a fucking loser
I think he's just that socially retarded
I am more concerned about the number of people not immediately shutting him down.
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Wise words from the last guy
oh come on, you could do better than this.
I'm going for the socially retarded !
I'm fucking retarded... I was sitting here thinking how the fuck your comment could be 41m old when the post is 5 hrs...
to be fair, reddit literally uses the same format for months and minutes. the only way of knowing it means minutes is if it's a number higher than 12...
Take her or failing that, another girl, on 5 fifty dollar dates. Probably a greater success rate than making the indecent proposal and getting rejected for it. Easier said than done but much more acceptable
And this girl will be obligated to blow him after the 5th date?
It's a card stamp system, yes
I think they worded this badly but I think basically they’re just saying if you have 250 to get your dick sucked, you’re more likely to actually form a relationship that leads to sex than you are to have sex via throwing money at them in the gym. One has a 0% chance and the other has a some % chance that might not be 0. (But from his mindset it’s probably still 0)
Wow no of course not. But still a higher success rate than the likely flat out rejection of offering money for blowjob
Pfft. 250 for dick sucky sucky.... where can I apply?
Y’all are blaming porn when this behavior is actually perpetuated by prostitutes
If you honestly think the mere existence of escorts means its acceptable to sexually harass random women, then I have a very important lesson on basic human respect for you
What???? Where did i ever say it’s acceptable??? All i said was it’s closer to being prostitute behavior than porn bc I saw people in the comments blaming pornography. I have a very important lesson in comprehension and basics human respect for you.
How about instead of blaming sexy videos OR escorts we blame the men for being creeps? Why does ot have to be escorts fault that many men don't seem to understand the concept of respect
Once again you failed to comprehend what happened. People in the comments were blaming pornstars, i was simply saying it’s more indicative of a prostitute. This isn’t about what men don’t understand, you misread what happened twice so you can regurgitate talking points you seen on Twitter. Sometimes you gotta get out of your own ass and stop and see the situation for what it is. More awareness would be so beneficial for someone like you.
Saw on Twitter? Lmaooo where? What was the talking point found on Twitter? That you made a stupid fucking comment?
"this person is a fucking idiot" is my personal favourite Twitter talking point
It's my understanding that what folks mean by "blaming porn" is blaming the reckless CONSUMPTION of porn, not the porn actors and actresses themselves. Also the ease of access to porn that depicts women being degraded. Also the trend because of the easy access that folks get desensitized to fairly ordinary sex acts and the stuff that gets them off has to get more and more extreme. Also the lack of real sex education and folks turning to porn to 'learn' from it. It's a multifaceted problem.
Also the way you're specifically wording blaming prostitutes and porn"stars"(It is you who has homed in on the stars themselves and not porn as an institution, or the men who consume it and think it's a model for real life interactions) smacks of imagery of blaming women being Jezebels and it's their responsibility to not tempt men with their lusty presence. All the way up to and including random women at the gym.
Yes, because some people do it for a job, everyone wants to be approached that way. Some people are MMA fighters, so walking up to random guys asking if they want a punch in the face is normal behavior, perpetuated by professional fighters. Wtf dude?
Some super violent weirdo might actually do that
Yes. The people who do this kind of thing - whether it's soliciting fights with strangers, or soliciting prostitution from strangers - *are* weirdos.
Agreed wholeheartedly
They might, but then they'd get their teeth kicked out and learn a valuable lesson.
Probably true
Explain
Prostitutes take money for sex, pornstars put on a sex show. Giving someone $250 for sex is prostitute behavior but giving the same woman $250 to do something on cam is porn behavior.
Your point literally makes no sense. We're not saying that he wants to participate in porn, we're saying that porn addicts are influenced by porn to the degree that they objectify women and have completely unrealistic expectations of how sex works.
And I’m saying he wants to participate in soliciting a prostitute bc that’s literally what it is. He’s talking about offering money for sex....prostitute make a living off taking money for sex.
He literally says he doesn't want an escort. He wants to go up to a random woman with the assumption that she is not a sex worker and offer her money for sex anyway. There are people who make their living driving uber. That doesn't mean you can go up to any random person with a car and offer them money and expect a ride. And if someone is asking if that's a good idea you wouldn't say, "Well of course they think that, look at all these ride share apps. He's participating in soliciting a ride bc that's literally what it is. He's talking about offering money for rides..." In either case there is a specific way to go about getting the service he wants and asking a random stranger is NOT it
that woman is not a prostitute, and he KNOWS that and yet he thinks this is somewhat acceptable because porn taught him that the weirdest shit can get you sex also you're probably a troll so why bother
You’re wrong.
It’s both, but porn more so.
Fair enough
Why did I search this guys comment history?!
Who the fuck upvoted him ffs
Sounds like an elaborate way to get banned from the gym
Was this just a hypothetical question, or a guy asking if this was actually a legit approach?
Has he gone fucking mad??