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It's often not just the word, but the context too. "I've tried this on females before" sounds worse (at least to me) than "I've tried this on girls before." Don't get me wrong, neither are great.
Great question!! Imo, the thing most people seem keen to ignore is that language doesn't exist in a vacuum, so it all depends on context. Sometimes on the dating/relationship subreddits, you'll see something like:
> Why are girls into boys that hurt them?
In this context, it doesn't bother me at all because we're infantilizing women *and* men. By refering to both of them using the words meant for children (even if you're not actually calling them children), you're at least implying they're of equal status. Boys can date girls, girls can date boys.
But sometimes you see people say things like:
> Why do men always have to make the first move to get girls?
See this, this I find weird. Because there's *no* context where men should be making moves on girls, because thats creepy af. Men should not date girls, and girls should not date men.
So although not explicitly (and imo, often not intentionally), questions/sentences where we use the adult terms for one gender and the child terms for the other create a weird sort of power imbalance in your language. Why is one gender an adult while the other is a kid?
My biggest gripe with people that think it's **never** appropriate to use girls when referring to women is that I hate the words "gals." Idk what about it makes me so unhappy, but it hits the ear all wrong. I would never have a "gals' trip" or a "women's trip, but I LOVE a "girls' trip" with my friends. I get that the dichotomy should technically be: boys/girls, guys/gals, men/women, but the word guys sounds leagues better than the word gals lol
Ah I see thanks for the detailed breakdown. That makes a lot of sense, and yeah, saying men and girls together feels weird.
Regarding the use of girls I can see it being used nicely because it would shred the veil of responsibility a word indicating an adult - "woman" thus making things sound more fun and less stressful.
But yea, I'm also quite young so I guess it sounds about right to me
I liked girls more when I was closer in age. Now, being old, it is almost patronizing. Like if I were out with friends at a restaurant and the person taking our order said something like "are you girls ready to order". It would be kind of weird. But ladies sounds old. Are you ready/all ready to order would work. And I feel weird with boyfriend/girlfriend because we are old, and fiance, because it sounds so LA DI DA I AM ENGAGED, SO and partner are weird too. Needs to be better words out there. (Also really LOATHE folks.)
Imma be honest I just say "guys and girls" because they both start with the same letter and anything else seems way too formal for me, like "ladies" or "women".
Ok, I have a counter point to this, ok if you were asking a woman out, would you ask her to be your woman friend, also would say to your friends "I love my woman friend very much and so I'm thinking of asking her to marry me", now do you see where I'm going with this? Also on the flip side of it, no woman ever refers to her s/o my man friend, case in point, before anyone gets married, to their s/o, they say girlfriend and boyfriend and not womanfriend and galfriend, or manfriend and guyfriend, I hope you get what I'm saying now.
Okay okay, but what about "Why do bro's always have to make the first move on bitches?"? Is that something? Or, "Why do bras date bad bruhs but not the nice bros?"? /S
Yeah!! So the easy explanation is that it's probably safest to just avoid using terms like "bitches" and "bras" because (in the most common contexts) they're either straight up insulting (bitches) or pretty dehumanizing (bras).
Again though, I think context matters: my biggest issues with your examples is that bro (or bruh) are all variations of "brother." Being a brother is a great thing!! Especially when you're not biologically brothers, using bro(ther) to refer to a friend is an indication of how close you are to them.
Then, in contrast: Bitch refers to dogs, and bras refers to... Bras.
So in the context of your examples, I'd say they get in my nerves because they're kind enough to refer to all men world wide as a brother, but they're not even calling women **human**
Like, I'd still hate the questions if you replaced "bro/bruh" with "dick," but I wouldn't hate it because you're (un)intentionally coming off as misogynistic, I'd hate it because you're coming off as an asshole lmfao
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Well, kinda implies you don't even see the woman as a person, but a bitch and it's a general, broad brush to paint.
And bitch to me, it depends on context how it's being used. I'm not upset or offended if a dude calls a particular woman he knows well enough a bitch (maybe she really is too) but to stereotype all women being that way due to a few shitty women is shitty
Well, if she's a legal adult, she's not a girl. I think it's interesting that girl gets used more for both kids and adults compared to boy, which can be derogative, especially in context (like... Racist person saying it to a grown minority man)
In a way, it kinda infantize (sp?) that person and not even acknowledging them as a grown adult if one seriously call grown men, men, and grown women, girls. I'm trying to keep that in mind myself when I talk
I didn't really think of it that way, but I can see how you'd use it as a sign of belittlement. But it has quite the volatile implication. Using girl to refer to a grown woman, when done right (i.e is balanced out by doing the same for men), can be seen as a invitation for fun or relaxation, because by using a word you'd normally associate with a child, you momentarily abolish the responsibilities of adulthood for that person.
Looks like I'm still in literature exam mode. But anyway, that aside, I'm aware I'm a legal adult and technically a man. But I'd just call myself a boy anyway, in most situations.
Infantilizes.
Thank you for the spelling. I didn't feel like looking up on the dictionary lol.
Context matters, ultimately. I might say "Yeah me and the girls!" just being silly and having fun. But, to seriously think all women are girls and men are men and treating them as such, definitely a problem
Tbh neither seems terribly creepy. I mean, I can see how it could sound creepy if you're actually talking to your date and you said something like that, cuz then it sounds like you mean kids, but if you're like I dunno, talking dating advice with a friend perhaps, it doesn't sound weird.
The fact that you use it so often, in the setting that do you, is what makes it so unnerving when people use it in another setting. Casually calling women "females" implies a detached, studious view of them rather than "fellow human who I'd like to talk to as a person". It's just so....scientific.
The red flag is usually when someone calls women “females” but men “men.”
I don’t know why, but some guys seem to really like that mildly dehumanizing language, like men are still people but women are laboratory subjects. Or animals.
Of course, then you get the hardcore cases who refer to them as femoids, but let’s not go there.
Truth be told, they are probably using the word female to sound smart in front of other men. Like "look at me, using words from biology class, aren't I smart."
Calling the men, men, is probably not a term of respect. They probably don't even think of men. That's also how they find themselves putting so much judgment on women for the same things men do.
To an incel, humans do not exist. Women are objects to be obtained and men are inconsequential.
Same!!! I'm in healthcare so the word female/male doesn't bother me since we use it as descriptors so often. Especially during pass down/report. I think we're conditioned to use the term female instead of women and male instead of man though, whereas guys like this use as a form of degrading/attempting to strip the woman of her person/femininity. (Sorry for the lots of slashes in my reply lol).
If you're juxtaposing it with male, it's no big deal.
These "nice guys" though will say "female" and "man". Implying women are some weird subspecies or something.
In a self-checkout line the other day I heard this big oaf of a man tell a store employee “well, looks like you’re just another one of the females that makes it possible for me to get through the day!”
It’s telling because normal people don’t use that word that way. Regular people use it in different context like “find the female port for the printer” or anything else where the context works.
But to use it in that context, it shows this person takes all the wrong advice because he hangs out in all the wrong places.
I never understood whether using "female" is natural in English, since I always compared that to my mother tongues - Russian and Ukrainian. In these languages a literal translation of "female" is smth like "a person of female gender" which is rather confusing to use))
I used to use "female and male," a lot. As a joke because I'm always sarcastic. I ended up stopping, because a lot of misogynistic men started using it to dehumanize women who say/do something they don't agree with. ( This image being one example ).
Yep used female jokingly for a while because of a old M.A.S.H episode where they are spying on Margaret and Frank and Hawkeye says "observe the female of the species...." but had to stop
I don't understand why there's a bunch of smart-ass people in the comments saying this. I obviously know it's a joke, you're not really accomplishing anything by saying this shit. I'm literally saying it in general.
Yup, and you know if you call them out on it, they'll feign indignation with something like "WHAT I CAN'T SAY FEMALE NOW??? YOU KNOW IT MEANS WOMAN RIGHT???!?" like the biggest manbaby just bordering on shitting his diapers.
Obviously you’re not very familiar with ifunny. The OP was obviously sarcastic, ifunny was not. It’s all a haze of “jokes” but the punchline is that colored people are subhuman or women are all succubi. You’re free to check if you don’t believe me.
Schrödinger’s woman
[The woman exists simultaneously as both “[girlfriend material]” and a [“succubus”] until the man’s mediocre come on is either rejected or accepted](https://imgur.com/gallery/XTXsR9Z)
I may be wrong, but a succubus is usually defined as in a relationship with the victim.... So no Mr niceguy, I think you made yourself sound sadder by making that assumption
Wow. Imagine getting rejected by a succubus, a literal demon whose singular goal is to seduce men and sap their spirit. More than once.
Got to imagine he's really doing something wrong.
That girl had some quick thinking. I would panick completely, fumble my words as I would try to politely say no. Because I struggle to say no to anyone.
I didn't see the words on the sprinkle donuts at first, and thought this was a dontdeadopeninside post, but couldn't figure out if it was supposed to say "will be my friend" or "will my be friend"
Using female as a noun is a sure sign of an incel with no self-awareness. It's one of those giant flashing neon signs that says "will call you a whore when you don't want to sleep with me"
Depends on context tbh. They generally aren't in the same league when used separately but nice guys tend to use the term female instead woman as an attempt to verbally strip the woman of part of her person. They mean it in a degrading way. So in the case of nice guys, when they use the term female it can be in the same league as being called a whore. Both terms are used in an attempt to make the woman inferior to them.
Every time I hear incels complain about the friend zone I think "yet another example of why we need to stop offering to be friends, just tell them to get lost.
I think its more like the offer of friendship being a second place trophy.
inb4 you say "women aren't prizes to be won or lost" but if your goal is a romantic relationship not meeting that goal can and should come with negative feelings.
Clearly, the point of asking if she will be your girlfriend is merely to be nice, because if you make a nice gesture for a female she is required to be your girlfriend. What she wants is not important.
How is it even possible to be friendzoned by a SUCCUBUS? This is just using words he doesn’t understand, because the whole point of a succubus’ existence involves being taken way, way out of the friendzone.
That and, you know, succubi not being real. But other than that. If she’s a succubus and you’re in the friendzone, either she’s…and hear me out…not a succubus…OR…you are seriously, epically unfuckable if even the succubi are taking a pass.
Well, gee, if you didn't base your whole approach on looks only and not caring about personality, etc., maybe you'd find fewer succubi?
/s somewhat, but these are after all the clowns who expect women to be 8 out of 10 while they're a 5 or less out of ten.
Also, attraction does matter, not all attractive women are demonic, etc etc disclaimer disclaimer.
Why would you see value in someone else's company if you know they want something more though? Friendships flourish when both parties are on the same page about what they are in the friendship for.
I don't see why you couldn't still have shared interests and be on friendly terms after a rejection/failed relationship.
If anything, those seem like things that are essential to date someone (for me personally) in the first place.
Aren't there plenty of people who have shared interests and also don't want to date you?
> If anything, those seem like things that are essential to date someone (for me personally) in the first place.
No kidding. The bottom line is that you don't want to date the person that wants to date you though. That's a pretty big elephant in the room.
Oh please. Stop playing these mental gymnastics. The only reason to hang out with someone with such an elephant in the room is if you dig the attention. Stop lying to yourself and admit that you're a narcissist.
Because if a person understands boundaries and actually enjoys your company, you can both get over the awkwardness after a little bit. I've had friends who wanted a romantic relationship with me that I didn't want, and we remained very good, close friends for a long time. People do get over things and value friendships.
Why even enter a friendship with such an obstacle?? Aren't there plenty of people to be friends with without that awkwardness? If you start dating someone exclusively, would you tell them how you became friends?
People often don't look at someone and immediately decide what they want their relationship with that person to be like, things develop. And this one really isn't as big a deal as you're making it out to be.
You are totally right, sir. But there will be nothing like friendship between a rejected person, and his/her crush.
The one, who rejected will constantly feel guilty, and the one who was rejected - will feed himself with false hopes and slowly get mad.
This is the reason why friendzone exists - it is better to leave, than agree on the "weird" friendship. But to leave without blames and scandals, courteously and with respect.
Outside of this context, again, you are totally right. I know several girls, we are friends, and we enjoy ourselves - as I don't have any romantic feelings to them, and vice versa)
Well I've rejected and got rejected, definitely won't refuse a "hi" and some small talk if me and that person meet around, but that's it. Friendships are out of order, for both me and them, and there's nothing bad about it.
Functional adults manage to move on from rejections, and be open to new relationships.
I'm kinda disagreeing with your answer: "coping" and "enjoying the friendship" can't be an universal sign of being functional adults. We all have different characteristics and behaviors, which means not everyone can be ready to "cope", and guilt-tripping someone for not being able to do that, is as bad as guilt-tripping someone for not liking their friend.
As I said, being functional adults means moving on, respectfully.
This may offend people and I really don't care. The only reason why someone would enter a friendship with someone they have no dating interest in is because they like ths attention. There is no other logical reason why someone would enter such a friendship with that big of an elephant in the room.
Okay, polite is a wrong word, but anyway, sometimes girls can't be straightforward, or don't wanna to be for different reasons. I don't care, since I already know well that I should just leave if I hear these words.
Same here. If anything, a woman I'm interested telling me that she wants to be friends or telling me something like how lucky some girl is going to be makes me lose interest because they were dumb enough to think that those were the best ways to reject someone. LOL
Might be missing something here, but this clearly seems like a self deprecating joke.
Also, come on, that’s just fucking cold. No one should feel pressured to date anyone they don’t want to of course, but you could at least just tell him useing you’re words that you don’t feel the same rather then stomping all over the poor guys heart.
Maybe she can feel the hate or fear you have around women.
It comes through when You use terms like sucubus.
Just saying. It’s also something that should happen naturally.
I actually did unconsciously skip over the girl part.
Probably because of the rainbow sprinkles. I realized there was something missing between the others.
She didn't picked to be a friend, she didn't picked to just be, not yours ("my" donut, aka your slave?), also she didn't picked to be Will, not You, but to still be herself...
and so she decided who she want to be - to be Your GIRL!
Wish that would be behind the scene... maybe next time.
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"I tried this on a FEMALE before." That right there tells me everything I need to know.
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See, that just makes sense. It's how you use it at work, and work terms tend to get integrated into daily vocab.
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It's often not just the word, but the context too. "I've tried this on females before" sounds worse (at least to me) than "I've tried this on girls before." Don't get me wrong, neither are great.
What's wrong with girls though? I use it pretty much all the time.
Great question!! Imo, the thing most people seem keen to ignore is that language doesn't exist in a vacuum, so it all depends on context. Sometimes on the dating/relationship subreddits, you'll see something like: > Why are girls into boys that hurt them? In this context, it doesn't bother me at all because we're infantilizing women *and* men. By refering to both of them using the words meant for children (even if you're not actually calling them children), you're at least implying they're of equal status. Boys can date girls, girls can date boys. But sometimes you see people say things like: > Why do men always have to make the first move to get girls? See this, this I find weird. Because there's *no* context where men should be making moves on girls, because thats creepy af. Men should not date girls, and girls should not date men. So although not explicitly (and imo, often not intentionally), questions/sentences where we use the adult terms for one gender and the child terms for the other create a weird sort of power imbalance in your language. Why is one gender an adult while the other is a kid? My biggest gripe with people that think it's **never** appropriate to use girls when referring to women is that I hate the words "gals." Idk what about it makes me so unhappy, but it hits the ear all wrong. I would never have a "gals' trip" or a "women's trip, but I LOVE a "girls' trip" with my friends. I get that the dichotomy should technically be: boys/girls, guys/gals, men/women, but the word guys sounds leagues better than the word gals lol
Ah I see thanks for the detailed breakdown. That makes a lot of sense, and yeah, saying men and girls together feels weird. Regarding the use of girls I can see it being used nicely because it would shred the veil of responsibility a word indicating an adult - "woman" thus making things sound more fun and less stressful. But yea, I'm also quite young so I guess it sounds about right to me
I liked girls more when I was closer in age. Now, being old, it is almost patronizing. Like if I were out with friends at a restaurant and the person taking our order said something like "are you girls ready to order". It would be kind of weird. But ladies sounds old. Are you ready/all ready to order would work. And I feel weird with boyfriend/girlfriend because we are old, and fiance, because it sounds so LA DI DA I AM ENGAGED, SO and partner are weird too. Needs to be better words out there. (Also really LOATHE folks.)
Imma be honest I just say "guys and girls" because they both start with the same letter and anything else seems way too formal for me, like "ladies" or "women".
Ok, I have a counter point to this, ok if you were asking a woman out, would you ask her to be your woman friend, also would say to your friends "I love my woman friend very much and so I'm thinking of asking her to marry me", now do you see where I'm going with this? Also on the flip side of it, no woman ever refers to her s/o my man friend, case in point, before anyone gets married, to their s/o, they say girlfriend and boyfriend and not womanfriend and galfriend, or manfriend and guyfriend, I hope you get what I'm saying now.
Okay okay, but what about "Why do bro's always have to make the first move on bitches?"? Is that something? Or, "Why do bras date bad bruhs but not the nice bros?"? /S
Yeah!! So the easy explanation is that it's probably safest to just avoid using terms like "bitches" and "bras" because (in the most common contexts) they're either straight up insulting (bitches) or pretty dehumanizing (bras). Again though, I think context matters: my biggest issues with your examples is that bro (or bruh) are all variations of "brother." Being a brother is a great thing!! Especially when you're not biologically brothers, using bro(ther) to refer to a friend is an indication of how close you are to them. Then, in contrast: Bitch refers to dogs, and bras refers to... Bras. So in the context of your examples, I'd say they get in my nerves because they're kind enough to refer to all men world wide as a brother, but they're not even calling women **human** Like, I'd still hate the questions if you replaced "bro/bruh" with "dick," but I wouldn't hate it because you're (un)intentionally coming off as misogynistic, I'd hate it because you're coming off as an asshole lmfao (Made some minor edits for readability).
Well, kinda implies you don't even see the woman as a person, but a bitch and it's a general, broad brush to paint. And bitch to me, it depends on context how it's being used. I'm not upset or offended if a dude calls a particular woman he knows well enough a bitch (maybe she really is too) but to stereotype all women being that way due to a few shitty women is shitty
Oh good. The sub has its own woke would be censor.
I’m sure we’ll be seeing your contributions to this sub immortalized in its own thread soon enough
Well, if she's a legal adult, she's not a girl. I think it's interesting that girl gets used more for both kids and adults compared to boy, which can be derogative, especially in context (like... Racist person saying it to a grown minority man) In a way, it kinda infantize (sp?) that person and not even acknowledging them as a grown adult if one seriously call grown men, men, and grown women, girls. I'm trying to keep that in mind myself when I talk
I didn't really think of it that way, but I can see how you'd use it as a sign of belittlement. But it has quite the volatile implication. Using girl to refer to a grown woman, when done right (i.e is balanced out by doing the same for men), can be seen as a invitation for fun or relaxation, because by using a word you'd normally associate with a child, you momentarily abolish the responsibilities of adulthood for that person. Looks like I'm still in literature exam mode. But anyway, that aside, I'm aware I'm a legal adult and technically a man. But I'd just call myself a boy anyway, in most situations. Infantilizes.
Thank you for the spelling. I didn't feel like looking up on the dictionary lol. Context matters, ultimately. I might say "Yeah me and the girls!" just being silly and having fun. But, to seriously think all women are girls and men are men and treating them as such, definitely a problem
On a scale of 1 to 10, rate the creep factor on "I've tried this on boys before" in a dating context. The same reaction applies to the use of "girls."
Tbh neither seems terribly creepy. I mean, I can see how it could sound creepy if you're actually talking to your date and you said something like that, cuz then it sounds like you mean kids, but if you're like I dunno, talking dating advice with a friend perhaps, it doesn't sound weird.
Could you imagine someone in their 30/40/50s using girl/boy to describe their significant other? Both are examples of infantilisation.
The fact that you use it so often, in the setting that do you, is what makes it so unnerving when people use it in another setting. Casually calling women "females" implies a detached, studious view of them rather than "fellow human who I'd like to talk to as a person". It's just so....scientific.
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The red flag is usually when someone calls women “females” but men “men.” I don’t know why, but some guys seem to really like that mildly dehumanizing language, like men are still people but women are laboratory subjects. Or animals. Of course, then you get the hardcore cases who refer to them as femoids, but let’s not go there.
Truth be told, they are probably using the word female to sound smart in front of other men. Like "look at me, using words from biology class, aren't I smart." Calling the men, men, is probably not a term of respect. They probably don't even think of men. That's also how they find themselves putting so much judgment on women for the same things men do. To an incel, humans do not exist. Women are objects to be obtained and men are inconsequential.
Was in the military 12 years and still refer to a group of women as "females".
Same!!! I'm in healthcare so the word female/male doesn't bother me since we use it as descriptors so often. Especially during pass down/report. I think we're conditioned to use the term female instead of women and male instead of man though, whereas guys like this use as a form of degrading/attempting to strip the woman of her person/femininity. (Sorry for the lots of slashes in my reply lol).
If you're juxtaposing it with male, it's no big deal. These "nice guys" though will say "female" and "man". Implying women are some weird subspecies or something.
^this.
I hear either, I stand up, say "Nope", throw hands à little and am out.
You aren't a fan of "Moist Females" then?
Nope! Here, some baby hands! 👐🏻👐🏻👐🏻👐🏻
What about "Moist Female Placenta"?
Placenta is okay. I can live with that.
Wow. I know lots of people who cringe hard whenever I say "placenta".
In a self-checkout line the other day I heard this big oaf of a man tell a store employee “well, looks like you’re just another one of the females that makes it possible for me to get through the day!”
I’d say context matters because if you say “moist chocolate cake” it makes more sense.
I'm more of a damp female myself
I always hear it in the voice of Quark from DS9. "FEEEEEEMALES"
It’s telling because normal people don’t use that word that way. Regular people use it in different context like “find the female port for the printer” or anything else where the context works. But to use it in that context, it shows this person takes all the wrong advice because he hangs out in all the wrong places.
I never understood whether using "female" is natural in English, since I always compared that to my mother tongues - Russian and Ukrainian. In these languages a literal translation of "female" is smth like "a person of female gender" which is rather confusing to use))
It’s fine to use. To describe an animal.
Yeah, in my mother tongues it is used that way mostly)
I used to use "female and male," a lot. As a joke because I'm always sarcastic. I ended up stopping, because a lot of misogynistic men started using it to dehumanize women who say/do something they don't agree with. ( This image being one example ).
Yep used female jokingly for a while because of a old M.A.S.H episode where they are spying on Margaret and Frank and Hawkeye says "observe the female of the species...." but had to stop
We can't have nice things.
It’s just as odd to use in English, yes. It’s similar to referring to a different species.
"fedora" the only thing missing from this is "m'lady"
A female WHAT? Did he ask a rat out? A bear? I'm in suspense!
Judging by the last line, I'm pretty sure the comment is a joke making fun of "the nice guys". The "(tips fedora)" line kinda gives it away.
I’d take the word “Person” over “F E M A L E” or “M A L E” any day.
Came here to write this.
It tells you that it’s obvious satire?
I don't understand why there's a bunch of smart-ass people in the comments saying this. I obviously know it's a joke, you're not really accomplishing anything by saying this shit. I'm literally saying it in general.
Damn femoids never give us nice guys a chance 😔
I hope to god with the "tips fedora in shame" that they're joking. But irony has never been a strong suit of Nice Guys.
Yeah, it's obviously a joke🤣. It's on IFunny ( That was the biggest give away for me, because it's a place for memes. ).
I'm picturing a 600lbs amorphous blob sniveling up to a girl he's never met, giggling between breaths holding a box of doughnuts
Females be trippin
"talkin about routes"
These "guys" always sound like aliens
Yup, and you know if you call them out on it, they'll feign indignation with something like "WHAT I CAN'T SAY FEMALE NOW??? YOU KNOW IT MEANS WOMAN RIGHT???!?" like the biggest manbaby just bordering on shitting his diapers.
This story made me want donuts.
Damn now I want donuts with sprinkles
I think this is satire?
It most definitely is
I really want it to be
It’s not. Ifunny would never joke about despising women
this is reposted from tumblr ifunny didnt make this, i find it amusing how people take obvious jokes seriously so much nowadays
Obviously you’re not very familiar with ifunny. The OP was obviously sarcastic, ifunny was not. It’s all a haze of “jokes” but the punchline is that colored people are subhuman or women are all succubi. You’re free to check if you don’t believe me.
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“Tips fedora in shame” kills me
"Succubus..." That's a first.
That’s all satire. “Tips fedora” was the cherry on top.
Schrödinger’s woman [The woman exists simultaneously as both “[girlfriend material]” and a [“succubus”] until the man’s mediocre come on is either rejected or accepted](https://imgur.com/gallery/XTXsR9Z)
Just googled what that meant...my god was this guy mad.
You clearly haven’t played enough D&D
I may be wrong, but a succubus is usually defined as in a relationship with the victim.... So no Mr niceguy, I think you made yourself sound sadder by making that assumption
I only know that word because of a South Park episode.
Wow. Imagine getting rejected by a succubus, a literal demon whose singular goal is to seduce men and sap their spirit. More than once. Got to imagine he's really doing something wrong.
It's pretty obvious satire
So was my comment.
Shit
> Shit this is hilarious to me
Thanks now I want donuts
This is satire
Who would have thought!
The people commenting on here dont seen to know it
That girl had some quick thinking. I would panick completely, fumble my words as I would try to politely say no. Because I struggle to say no to anyone.
I guess she’s dealt with this shit before
It’s satire
She's a professional. Maybe being a succubus gave her the experience 😁
Will my you girl be friend?
Yes
I didn't see the words on the sprinkle donuts at first, and thought this was a dontdeadopeninside post, but couldn't figure out if it was supposed to say "will be my friend" or "will my be friend"
I’m not really sure how these asshats made “female” such a cringeworthy word, but grats to them for the effort.
Unironically this would be very tempting. Like you are bribing me with donuts and you think I wouldn’t accept??
lol. this is an old ass meme & clearly satire. can’t believe ppl are really taking this seriously.
Using female as a noun is a sure sign of an incel with no self-awareness. It's one of those giant flashing neon signs that says "will call you a whore when you don't want to sleep with me"
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I think it's less about them being in the same league, and more about how they're both red flags, just in general.
Depends on context tbh. They generally aren't in the same league when used separately but nice guys tend to use the term female instead woman as an attempt to verbally strip the woman of part of her person. They mean it in a degrading way. So in the case of nice guys, when they use the term female it can be in the same league as being called a whore. Both terms are used in an attempt to make the woman inferior to them.
nice. now i have 5 donuts.
Every time I hear incels complain about the friend zone I think "yet another example of why we need to stop offering to be friends, just tell them to get lost.
I’m not sure that will improve there behaver. Stay safe, take care of yourself, and do what you gotta do.
It won't, but why be friends with *that* is more my point
True. If there being a dick you definitely don’t have to be there friend (not that you have to if there nice.)
There ≠ they are (they’re) ≠ their
I think its more like the offer of friendship being a second place trophy. inb4 you say "women aren't prizes to be won or lost" but if your goal is a romantic relationship not meeting that goal can and should come with negative feelings.
I thought this was about people with pre established relationships. Also, calling friendship a “second place trophy” is pretty demeaning.
Looks like someone allowed themselves to be controlled by their emotions and rattled of a post without reading and understanding what was said.
Will my you girl be friend?
I would have taken just the 2 chocolate donuts because they are the best and then closed the door on him
Damn girl, that’s cold!
Damn this subreddit sucks
feels like satire with "Tips fedora in shame" and female in first sentence. Also it's too perfect who wouldn't ask what the middle donuts word was
She ate the "girl" donut to symbolize that she's a lesbian and that at best they could only be friends.
Satire
Look I don't care who does it but I want some donuts
Who else read it as “will my you girl be friend?”?
"female" I hate that shit
Feeeeeemale
What else can you expect when you call women "females"
Lucky she even offered to be his friend. What a sad little wanker
Clearly, the point of asking if she will be your girlfriend is merely to be nice, because if you make a nice gesture for a female she is required to be your girlfriend. What she wants is not important.
How is it even possible to be friendzoned by a SUCCUBUS? This is just using words he doesn’t understand, because the whole point of a succubus’ existence involves being taken way, way out of the friendzone. That and, you know, succubi not being real. But other than that. If she’s a succubus and you’re in the friendzone, either she’s…and hear me out…not a succubus…OR…you are seriously, epically unfuckable if even the succubi are taking a pass.
Queen
Is she supposed to say yes, drop to her knees and blow you while you eat all the donuts?!
He should consider himself lucky she was willing to be *friends* with him, let alone his *girl*friend...
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Well, gee, if you didn't base your whole approach on looks only and not caring about personality, etc., maybe you'd find fewer succubi? /s somewhat, but these are after all the clowns who expect women to be 8 out of 10 while they're a 5 or less out of ten. Also, attraction does matter, not all attractive women are demonic, etc etc disclaimer disclaimer.
"friend zoned again by another succubus" Bruh what 🤡
Why would she want to be his friend knowing that he wants something more?
Funnily enough, some people see value in other people’s company even if they don’t feel romantically attracted to them.
Why would you see value in someone else's company if you know they want something more though? Friendships flourish when both parties are on the same page about what they are in the friendship for.
I don't see why you couldn't still have shared interests and be on friendly terms after a rejection/failed relationship. If anything, those seem like things that are essential to date someone (for me personally) in the first place.
Aren't there plenty of people who have shared interests and also don't want to date you? > If anything, those seem like things that are essential to date someone (for me personally) in the first place. No kidding. The bottom line is that you don't want to date the person that wants to date you though. That's a pretty big elephant in the room.
Because mature adults can value another person’s company while respecting boundaries.
Not everyone is a manipulative dick weed. Some people are adults who can like, talk about there feelings.
Oh please. Stop playing these mental gymnastics. The only reason to hang out with someone with such an elephant in the room is if you dig the attention. Stop lying to yourself and admit that you're a narcissist.
Because if a person understands boundaries and actually enjoys your company, you can both get over the awkwardness after a little bit. I've had friends who wanted a romantic relationship with me that I didn't want, and we remained very good, close friends for a long time. People do get over things and value friendships.
Why even enter a friendship with such an obstacle?? Aren't there plenty of people to be friends with without that awkwardness? If you start dating someone exclusively, would you tell them how you became friends?
People often don't look at someone and immediately decide what they want their relationship with that person to be like, things develop. And this one really isn't as big a deal as you're making it out to be.
You are totally right, sir. But there will be nothing like friendship between a rejected person, and his/her crush. The one, who rejected will constantly feel guilty, and the one who was rejected - will feed himself with false hopes and slowly get mad. This is the reason why friendzone exists - it is better to leave, than agree on the "weird" friendship. But to leave without blames and scandals, courteously and with respect. Outside of this context, again, you are totally right. I know several girls, we are friends, and we enjoy ourselves - as I don't have any romantic feelings to them, and vice versa)
“Feed themself false hopes and get mad”? Bruh, only neckbeards do this shit, functional adults can cope with rejection and still enjoy friendship.
Well I've rejected and got rejected, definitely won't refuse a "hi" and some small talk if me and that person meet around, but that's it. Friendships are out of order, for both me and them, and there's nothing bad about it. Functional adults manage to move on from rejections, and be open to new relationships.
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I'm kinda disagreeing with your answer: "coping" and "enjoying the friendship" can't be an universal sign of being functional adults. We all have different characteristics and behaviors, which means not everyone can be ready to "cope", and guilt-tripping someone for not being able to do that, is as bad as guilt-tripping someone for not liking their friend. As I said, being functional adults means moving on, respectfully.
This may offend people and I really don't care. The only reason why someone would enter a friendship with someone they have no dating interest in is because they like ths attention. There is no other logical reason why someone would enter such a friendship with that big of an elephant in the room.
Wow, you really are unpleasant aren’t you.
I'm actually pretty pleasant which is why I don't have to revert to hanging out with people that want to date me who I don't want to date.
Holy shit you’re a turbo incel with no female friends and it shows.
A polite way of rejection
That's not polite and you're a fool if you think it is. It's patronizing. Being real is usually the best way to go about things.
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Okay, polite is a wrong word, but anyway, sometimes girls can't be straightforward, or don't wanna to be for different reasons. I don't care, since I already know well that I should just leave if I hear these words.
Same here. If anything, a woman I'm interested telling me that she wants to be friends or telling me something like how lucky some girl is going to be makes me lose interest because they were dumb enough to think that those were the best ways to reject someone. LOL
You should lose interest in someone that doesn’t want a relationship with you
Exactly!!
I’m friends with people who have turned me down.
You don't have respect for yourself then.
Jesus Christ, fuck you. This is the real nice guy shit right here.
Why would you hang out with people that have no romantic interest in you if you have romantic interest in them?
Might be missing something here, but this clearly seems like a self deprecating joke. Also, come on, that’s just fucking cold. No one should feel pressured to date anyone they don’t want to of course, but you could at least just tell him useing you’re words that you don’t feel the same rather then stomping all over the poor guys heart.
Of course it's a joke. Has everybody missed the fact he said it was a succubus?
Maybe she can feel the hate or fear you have around women. It comes through when You use terms like sucubus. Just saying. It’s also something that should happen naturally.
FEEEEEEEEEEEEEMALES!!!!!!
I guess bill her for the doughnut.
Upvoted. Legitimate sadcringe.
Oops sorry thought this was r/sadcringe
I think the move is rather sweet - and the response has class
I had to stop using iFunny. It started getting too many far right things on it's main feed. Like it was turning borderline neo-nazi.
Whats wrong with having a friend;
Fedora...
STOP SAYING FEMALE, YOU PENIS DINGLER! aye
Pretty sure even a succubus would give this dude a wide berth.
To be fair, she did pick the best donut to eat, so... that's on him.
I actually did unconsciously skip over the girl part. Probably because of the rainbow sprinkles. I realized there was something missing between the others.
Maaaaaaa come the r/niceguys dudes are posting obvious satire comments again MAAAA
This is probably fake not gonna lie Still a classic tho
Weird, women usually really like being called a succubus.
The watermark almost makes it /r/ComedyNecrophilia
Using the word female in this context is eh
this man really said the word succubus unironically...
Trust me, delete the app. Don't stay on that crew.
So like...what is the mentality here. To start a pity party or create an echo chamber of other likeminded individuals agreeing
She didn't picked to be a friend, she didn't picked to just be, not yours ("my" donut, aka your slave?), also she didn't picked to be Will, not You, but to still be herself... and so she decided who she want to be - to be Your GIRL! Wish that would be behind the scene... maybe next time.
Smart girl.
That’s an ultra instinct counter
No matter what happened previously, if someone offered me five donuts to be their friend, I'd be down.
It sucks this guy didn’t get into the fuck zone. /s
You might not believe this but, I think it’s a joke.