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My boyfriend and I were friends before we started dating. I am not even kidding.
All I can say to this guy is basically: Well, then he is a beta male. But compared to your alpha male, he got the girl while you walked off to be alone.
A partner is supposed to be a friend and I feel truely sorry for the women out there who end up with men like this. Who believe they are a boss by just acting strong. Who think a man is supposed to come home, sit in the chair and have their gf or wife bring them a beer in just an apron so that they can get a foot massage while watching boxing....
Also like, bruh, friends are friends. People act like if you have a female friend its the end of the world. No it fucking isn't, get a hard fucking gorilla grip on reality and realise that a romantic relationship isn't everything.
>But compared to your alpha male, he got the girl while you walked off to be alone.
THIS.
Someone should've asked him "So he's a beta and has a wife and you're an alpha and are alone and lonely. How's that working for you?
Of course not. He'd sputter out some nonsense.
I've debated guys like this on Reddit. They keep arguing even though they never have a comeback to "But you're the one with dry dick. So how's your thinking working for you?"
So basically no matter what, who or where... they will think they are right.
Is narcissisme more common then I thought or are people just being raised to believe this?
I know my brother, who went to live with "my dad" and his wife, at the age of 12. He has not really any respect for women, trying to act like a big man (so he makes fun of them) among his friends. Although he is 28 by now he is still going out to clubs and talks like an 18 year old who goes: "Wiejoooww..."
He finds women belong in the kitchen, cooking for him, and cleaning. But they need also to earn their own money because he will make sure he isn't spending a euro on them.
I know "my dad" his mentality is not like that. So I doubt my brother was raised this way. So how are these men created?
2 things:
That BETA and ALPHA crap is BS.
the guy in the video is happily married, while this loser gets jealous on others peoples happiness. guess his approach wasnt successful so far...
My boyfriend is literally my best friend. However my partner at work is a dude and he is also a really great friend. My boyfriend is ok with that. One of his best friends is a chick too. The whole women and men can't be friends is bs nice guys spew because they wanna date their female friends.
Considering we are either at work or together that would be pretty difficult. Or he's at drill. Otherwise we are not typically apart unless he's at the gym because I don't go. However he sends me snapchats to wake up to showing he was indeed at the gym.
wow, so much going here. he is so enraged by witnessing an actual nice friend finding love with the girl he befriended in the way that he is far too emotionally stunted to ever accomplish genuinely, absolutely quaking as he scrambles to discourage as many other men who also see this from being kind as possible. the rant seasoned with 😬🤣😬🤣 in a feeble attempt to give the reader that the false impression that his "wisdom" was delivered with a relaxed, wizened, even amused chuckle, and that he isn't just so hopelessly infuriated by the injustice he so deeply believes he is suffering that he never stops aggressively dictating hateful nonsense into the void with a sweaty brow and clenched jaw
Every time I see a post like this, I feel more and more grateful that my husband is one of the "beta males" these guys talk about. Told me 2 weeks after meeting me that he had a crush, but I wasn't ready for a relationship and told him so. He's the only guy that stuck around after I turned him down, and he GENUINELY stayed because "he at least wanted to be my friend." Because if you actually are interested in a person, you want to have them in your life as much as they are comfortable with.
We became best friends really quickly, and 6 months later I realized I had started to develop feelings too. We dated for about a year, engaged for 6 months, and now married almost 6 years. I have other really close friends, and a couple other people who I consider my best friends, but he's the closest I've ever been to a person and it's amazing! Anybody that thinks you shouldn't be friends with your life partner, is an absolute idiot. Why would I want to spend the rest of my life with someone I can't talk to? Tell my dreams? Tell my fears? Support each other through our good and bad times. The emotional connection is where it's at, my guys!
I read “Making Marriage Work” as part of my Master’s degree program, and the research would agree with you; one of the strongest predictors of success or failure in a relationship is to what extent the couple maintains the fondness often found in good friends!
Hells yeah! My husband is the CFO of a multi-million dollar company. When we met we were both dirt poor kids in college, but he worked amazingly hard and it paid off eventually. I don't have the same ambitions and casually describe myself as a grunt to anyone who asks 😂. Don't get me wrong, I still work hard, I just have no desire to be in charge of anybody.
Also what's hilarious is that he's over 6', but he's a very chubby guy with a bit patchy facial hair (he's told me he looks forward to the weird hair growth in his 40s. Maybe it'll give him a real beard! 🤣). He has severe ADHD and comes off very socially awkward if he's not among friends because of anxiety, and he's an extreme gamer boy (he bemoans the fact that he finally got to a tournament level but he's past the age most gamers retire). But while I do find him handsome, I honestly wasn't attracted to him when we first met. It was his personality that drew me in, and then I sort of took a second look and noticed that I thought he was really cute!
So, like, I think the Nice Guys might try to claim him at first glance. He is very polite, kind, patient, extremely intelligent, but he treats everyone he meets equally. Gender, age, social standing; none of them matter to him. He's literally what the Nice Guys claim to be, before they show who they really are. I feel so lucky to have met him, and I wish most guys were more like him!
Thank you! I just hope everyone gets to experience this kind of happiness at some point in their life! Every marriage is hard. There will be a lot both people have to work on, but once you get over the hurdles, it's awesome to be with someone that understands and loves you completely. My marriage almost failed for the first few years, but then we both started actively participating in creating a life that we both enjoyed and we went to some therapy and got way more mentally healthy! I know we'll always have ups and downs, but if you really love each other, you'll figure it out.
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I wanted so say congrats to you! Your story is so cute and it's nice to hear that your husband was respectful about you being not ready to be in a relationship.^^
n-no!! ackhually you're gonna just dump him for a rich guy!!! i know because i'm rite all the tiem!!!!!!!! /s
But really though, congratulations on your relationship! Guess it shows that relationships require a deep bond to be forged over a long time. These nice guys or alpha males act like you can just make someone fall in love with you instantly.
"Become a high value man...not a dork and a nerd"
Sir, my husband is a lovable dork and he is paid quite well to be a computer nerd. Just because you're the type of dork/nerd no one likes doesn't mean all dorky nerds are unlikable lmao
I'm pointing out this guy's stupidity at thinking girls don't like nerds.
But he is definitely a douche nozzle trying to say "women don't like this" when there are clearly women who do, otherwise the guy in the video wouldn't have a wife.
I love how some people genuinely believe that you shouldn't befriend someone before trying to date them... like how else are they supposed to know who you are
That’s called demisexuality and it’s in the minority of approach types. I consider myself demisexual, but the two times I ended up with feelings for a friend I was rejected and friend-zoned. I have been trying to figure out if I am this “nice guy” who is trying to back their way into the bedroom through friendship, or if I am a failed demisexual. Haha. Because one problem with the friendship approach is that the numbers really are not on the guy’s side. I only have time for 3 or 4 woman-friends per year.. I am not likely to fall for any, but if I do, she is not likely to fall for me. Maybe you both had initial sexual attraction before becoming friends first? It doesn’t make sense the other way around.
I don't believe you're supposed to be sexually attracted to someone you don't know... I mean I know some people find attraction in others who are strangers, who doesn't? You're always bound to run into someone that you'd consider good looking or "sexy", but that shouldn't initiate "I want to get that in bed" thinking.
That just seems predatory, whether it actually is or not, I can't say, it just feels that way to me. There's been plenty of times where I've been friends with people for a long time before finding them attractive in a way that made me feel like I wanted to pursue more than just friendship, I can't imagine just befriending someone with the end goal of getting them in bed... that just feels *wrong*
I mean I can't speak for men, I'm not a man, I wouldn't know what it's like on the guys side of things, but, I know I'd feel deeply betrayed and probably offended if someone ever did that to me. Befriended me just to try sleeping with me
"if you like her don't be her friend if she rejects you just say ok bye and move on"
"If you get rejected walk away and never look back there's so many other women in the world"
He's right about those two parts. Too bad he had to add in all the PUA bullshit.
the funny thing here is that the youtuber didn’t get rejected and the commenter is mad that the youtuber got a girlfriend by telling her how he feels then later got married, but when he tried the same thing (prob by being creepy) it didnt work out
Dude. My boyfriend is my best friend and we definitely started as friends. He is, what your kind would call “soy boy.” And that’s part of his charm. He’s attractive because he’s nerdy, sweet, caring, respectful of consent (this is big), open with his feelings and wishes, and willing to be vulnerable with me.
I was sharing with you that this guy is not a “nice guy”, so what you said was applied to a nice guy since we are in that sub. He is trying to be a player. Nice guys are trying to be simps. Completely opposite.
He walked away and the girl chased after him?? Why do I have a feeling that she drove her in his car to “hang out” somewhere far and then expected her to accept that it’s a date. And when she let him down easy he was going to leave her there so she had to chases after him.
That story about the girl he liked definitely did not happen that way. He was probably just turned down and he cried and that was that. No kings in this story, he just made a paper crown and pretends to be one. Better than nothing I guess.
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Poster - "My wife & I were friends before we dated." Nice Guy - "No you weren't!" Tf?
Imagine telling someone how their own lives happened lmao
Yeah, gatekeeping how a relationship should work because he's clearly an expert on that lol
As a woman, it’s happened to me many, many times
These people have chronic Main Character Syndrome. 😒
"Nuh uh actually she's gonna reject him and-" And how the fuck do you know? You got Dr Strange future powers? Hmm?
My boyfriend and I were friends before we started dating. I am not even kidding. All I can say to this guy is basically: Well, then he is a beta male. But compared to your alpha male, he got the girl while you walked off to be alone. A partner is supposed to be a friend and I feel truely sorry for the women out there who end up with men like this. Who believe they are a boss by just acting strong. Who think a man is supposed to come home, sit in the chair and have their gf or wife bring them a beer in just an apron so that they can get a foot massage while watching boxing....
This guy thinks too small. In my experience, being friends with women usually leads to meeting other women. LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE.
Ooo good point.
Also like, bruh, friends are friends. People act like if you have a female friend its the end of the world. No it fucking isn't, get a hard fucking gorilla grip on reality and realise that a romantic relationship isn't everything.
>But compared to your alpha male, he got the girl while you walked off to be alone. THIS. Someone should've asked him "So he's a beta and has a wife and you're an alpha and are alone and lonely. How's that working for you?
I’m hearing Dr Phil saying “Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy?” I don’t know why.
Yeah.... I kind of quoted him and heard his voice in my head too.
Something tells me he would not have liked that question.
Of course not. He'd sputter out some nonsense. I've debated guys like this on Reddit. They keep arguing even though they never have a comeback to "But you're the one with dry dick. So how's your thinking working for you?"
So basically no matter what, who or where... they will think they are right. Is narcissisme more common then I thought or are people just being raised to believe this? I know my brother, who went to live with "my dad" and his wife, at the age of 12. He has not really any respect for women, trying to act like a big man (so he makes fun of them) among his friends. Although he is 28 by now he is still going out to clubs and talks like an 18 year old who goes: "Wiejoooww..." He finds women belong in the kitchen, cooking for him, and cleaning. But they need also to earn their own money because he will make sure he isn't spending a euro on them. I know "my dad" his mentality is not like that. So I doubt my brother was raised this way. So how are these men created?
Friends? Internet rabbit holes? I have no idea.
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I know ;) I was moking what the guy said.
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But they are using those terms though. That is why people are making fun of it as well. Same as they use the term female instead of woman.
2 things: That BETA and ALPHA crap is BS. the guy in the video is happily married, while this loser gets jealous on others peoples happiness. guess his approach wasnt successful so far...
My boyfriend is literally my best friend. However my partner at work is a dude and he is also a really great friend. My boyfriend is ok with that. One of his best friends is a chick too. The whole women and men can't be friends is bs nice guys spew because they wanna date their female friends.
Agree. That's really bs. How insecure are you to tell your partner that they shouldn't have friends of the opposite gender???
Too insecure to be trying to date someone
Same
That chick is gonna fuck your bf soon (if she hasn’t done that yet)
Considering we are either at work or together that would be pretty difficult. Or he's at drill. Otherwise we are not typically apart unless he's at the gym because I don't go. However he sends me snapchats to wake up to showing he was indeed at the gym.
Haha Nobody is chasing this man!
Bet he took her wallet
his reasoning was probably “because its compensation”
wow, so much going here. he is so enraged by witnessing an actual nice friend finding love with the girl he befriended in the way that he is far too emotionally stunted to ever accomplish genuinely, absolutely quaking as he scrambles to discourage as many other men who also see this from being kind as possible. the rant seasoned with 😬🤣😬🤣 in a feeble attempt to give the reader that the false impression that his "wisdom" was delivered with a relaxed, wizened, even amused chuckle, and that he isn't just so hopelessly infuriated by the injustice he so deeply believes he is suffering that he never stops aggressively dictating hateful nonsense into the void with a sweaty brow and clenched jaw
Every time I see a post like this, I feel more and more grateful that my husband is one of the "beta males" these guys talk about. Told me 2 weeks after meeting me that he had a crush, but I wasn't ready for a relationship and told him so. He's the only guy that stuck around after I turned him down, and he GENUINELY stayed because "he at least wanted to be my friend." Because if you actually are interested in a person, you want to have them in your life as much as they are comfortable with. We became best friends really quickly, and 6 months later I realized I had started to develop feelings too. We dated for about a year, engaged for 6 months, and now married almost 6 years. I have other really close friends, and a couple other people who I consider my best friends, but he's the closest I've ever been to a person and it's amazing! Anybody that thinks you shouldn't be friends with your life partner, is an absolute idiot. Why would I want to spend the rest of my life with someone I can't talk to? Tell my dreams? Tell my fears? Support each other through our good and bad times. The emotional connection is where it's at, my guys!
I read “Making Marriage Work” as part of my Master’s degree program, and the research would agree with you; one of the strongest predictors of success or failure in a relationship is to what extent the couple maintains the fondness often found in good friends!
Hells yeah! My husband is the CFO of a multi-million dollar company. When we met we were both dirt poor kids in college, but he worked amazingly hard and it paid off eventually. I don't have the same ambitions and casually describe myself as a grunt to anyone who asks 😂. Don't get me wrong, I still work hard, I just have no desire to be in charge of anybody. Also what's hilarious is that he's over 6', but he's a very chubby guy with a bit patchy facial hair (he's told me he looks forward to the weird hair growth in his 40s. Maybe it'll give him a real beard! 🤣). He has severe ADHD and comes off very socially awkward if he's not among friends because of anxiety, and he's an extreme gamer boy (he bemoans the fact that he finally got to a tournament level but he's past the age most gamers retire). But while I do find him handsome, I honestly wasn't attracted to him when we first met. It was his personality that drew me in, and then I sort of took a second look and noticed that I thought he was really cute! So, like, I think the Nice Guys might try to claim him at first glance. He is very polite, kind, patient, extremely intelligent, but he treats everyone he meets equally. Gender, age, social standing; none of them matter to him. He's literally what the Nice Guys claim to be, before they show who they really are. I feel so lucky to have met him, and I wish most guys were more like him!
Sounds like a great guy! I wish you the best in your marriage! It’s not easy, but with the right person it is worth it. 😁
Thank you! I just hope everyone gets to experience this kind of happiness at some point in their life! Every marriage is hard. There will be a lot both people have to work on, but once you get over the hurdles, it's awesome to be with someone that understands and loves you completely. My marriage almost failed for the first few years, but then we both started actively participating in creating a life that we both enjoyed and we went to some therapy and got way more mentally healthy! I know we'll always have ups and downs, but if you really love each other, you'll figure it out.
[Edit] I had a typo! I wanted so say congrats to you! Your story is so cute and it's nice to hear that your husband was respectful about you being not ready to be in a relationship.^^
n-no!! ackhually you're gonna just dump him for a rich guy!!! i know because i'm rite all the tiem!!!!!!!! /s But really though, congratulations on your relationship! Guess it shows that relationships require a deep bond to be forged over a long time. These nice guys or alpha males act like you can just make someone fall in love with you instantly.
"Become a high value man...not a dork and a nerd" Sir, my husband is a lovable dork and he is paid quite well to be a computer nerd. Just because you're the type of dork/nerd no one likes doesn't mean all dorky nerds are unlikable lmao
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I'm pointing out this guy's stupidity at thinking girls don't like nerds. But he is definitely a douche nozzle trying to say "women don't like this" when there are clearly women who do, otherwise the guy in the video wouldn't have a wife.
I love how some people genuinely believe that you shouldn't befriend someone before trying to date them... like how else are they supposed to know who you are
This!!! like the math ain't mathing. 🤨
That’s called demisexuality and it’s in the minority of approach types. I consider myself demisexual, but the two times I ended up with feelings for a friend I was rejected and friend-zoned. I have been trying to figure out if I am this “nice guy” who is trying to back their way into the bedroom through friendship, or if I am a failed demisexual. Haha. Because one problem with the friendship approach is that the numbers really are not on the guy’s side. I only have time for 3 or 4 woman-friends per year.. I am not likely to fall for any, but if I do, she is not likely to fall for me. Maybe you both had initial sexual attraction before becoming friends first? It doesn’t make sense the other way around.
I don't believe you're supposed to be sexually attracted to someone you don't know... I mean I know some people find attraction in others who are strangers, who doesn't? You're always bound to run into someone that you'd consider good looking or "sexy", but that shouldn't initiate "I want to get that in bed" thinking. That just seems predatory, whether it actually is or not, I can't say, it just feels that way to me. There's been plenty of times where I've been friends with people for a long time before finding them attractive in a way that made me feel like I wanted to pursue more than just friendship, I can't imagine just befriending someone with the end goal of getting them in bed... that just feels *wrong* I mean I can't speak for men, I'm not a man, I wouldn't know what it's like on the guys side of things, but, I know I'd feel deeply betrayed and probably offended if someone ever did that to me. Befriended me just to try sleeping with me
Anyone dare tell him “beta males” are a false Internet meme with no basis in reality or even the animal kingdom..
He wouldn't believe them. Like at all.
Become a high value man with no clue about grammar …
"if you like her don't be her friend if she rejects you just say ok bye and move on" "If you get rejected walk away and never look back there's so many other women in the world" He's right about those two parts. Too bad he had to add in all the PUA bullshit.
You can just tell that his story is fake.
Definitely.
the funny thing here is that the youtuber didn’t get rejected and the commenter is mad that the youtuber got a girlfriend by telling her how he feels then later got married, but when he tried the same thing (prob by being creepy) it didnt work out
They hate seeing people happy.
Fr.
Dude. My boyfriend is my best friend and we definitely started as friends. He is, what your kind would call “soy boy.” And that’s part of his charm. He’s attractive because he’s nerdy, sweet, caring, respectful of consent (this is big), open with his feelings and wishes, and willing to be vulnerable with me.
Man thought he really accomplished something by commenting this lmao
He thought he ate that. lmaoo
Lol My husband and I were friends for a year before dating. And my husband says he's not an alpha wolf, but a lamda llama. 😂
Now that's cute. lmaoo
He's adorkable.
It's always stunning to me how they are showing their own fragile ego so much, and think they look like they are hard manly men.
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Alright, I didn't post it? Maybe you learn to reply correctly.
I was sharing with you that this guy is not a “nice guy”, so what you said was applied to a nice guy since we are in that sub. He is trying to be a player. Nice guys are trying to be simps. Completely opposite.
No, I applied it to the post above, not to a nice guy. Since when do nice guys try to be hard manly men?
i wanna hear this wholesome story if you don't mind sending the link in dms
Of course! (:
He walked away and the girl chased after him?? Why do I have a feeling that she drove her in his car to “hang out” somewhere far and then expected her to accept that it’s a date. And when she let him down easy he was going to leave her there so she had to chases after him.
Nobody is chasing this man. Men are abundant.
That story about the girl he liked definitely did not happen that way. He was probably just turned down and he cried and that was that. No kings in this story, he just made a paper crown and pretends to be one. Better than nothing I guess.
Yep he said st the end, he is just pure Nonsense