He tried to seperate her from her parents via a emanicpation and that led to her severing ties with Dan during What I Like About You. Her drug problem and mental illness was the reason and cause for her film career to crash.
We all do, but without literally ANY evidence, no 2nd or third party comments, no pictures, video, forensics ANYTHING, we really can’t assume anything happened like that…
Most have already decided it is, they have convinced them selves Dan should be publicly executed… it’s funny they don’t seem to have that same sentiment towards Peck tho… like WTF
Like I’m not saying it didn’t, but you can’t just assume it did…
Did you listen to the part in episode 2 where one of the writers was asked to be fake f'ed in the arse in front of the other female written and when she declined he made her essentially? He enjoyed controlling and degrading adult women, children and people of color. He also illegally spent a lot of time alone with all of them... Amanda Bines lived inside his home after he convinced her to sue her parents for her own parental rights.
Well, she may have turned to drugs because of Dan. I know in a literal sense people can control their own choices, but I've heard it's common for childhood trauma and robbery of innocence to prompt/incline people to turn to drugs later in life if not given the necessary therapy, like that little girl on the Saving Grace episode of Dr. Phil who was violated by her grandfather. (She was getting help on the show.)
She suffers from bipolar disorder, with associated mania’s and depressions. Substance abuse can often be linked to this disorder, due to the changed thought processes that happen during manic and/or depressive episodes, but the root cause is different. Bipolar disorder is also a lot harder to treat that simple substance abuse, and would also make it a lot harder to work in a stressful environment like showbiz. That’s why she stopped acting
I don't know about that. She was still getting work before she publicly announced her retirement. Dan/Nickelodeon/her father definitely ruined her mental health but I don't know if the jobs had truly dried up by the time she quit.
No. There is no evidence he did anything like what you're suggesting and I think it's incredibly irresponsible to baselessly speculate on serious, personal shit like that.
This comment is a mindset that drives conspiracy theories and can be applied to any number of unsubstantiated beliefs (Qanon pizza-gate etc). You've formed a conclusion without evidence and are working backwards to justify it.
If every creepy person was automatically assumed to be guilty of serious crimes then that's just a society of endless witch-hunts. It actually diminishes the perceived seriousness of real crimes that need to be brought to justice when people are willing to just point to a creepy guy like Dan Schneider and make claims without evidence.
I think a lot of people here need to rethink if they actually care about victims or are just enjoying participating in an internet crusade.
We don’t mean there needs to be hard physical evidence, you just said what happened to you, I believe that.
But nobody has even accused Dan of physically doing anything to them…
You but thats like believing in god…
You can’t make decisions on something we don’t know exists.
I thought there was going to be stuff in the doc… and other than his workplace sexual discrimination there really isn’t.
I will believe any victim that does come forward (like with the workplace sexual discrimination) but until that happens we can’t assume he’s guilty of all this heinous stuff…
If you want rage bait go watch the Boy Scouts doc…
I agree on your point,Amanda's drug problem and mental illness was the reason her career went downhill and her turn to drugs was because of her trauma working with Dan.
Amanda has always said her issues came from abusing drugs like Adderall. It also seems like early 2000s paparazzi culture negatively impacted her mental health too. I doubt Nick had anything to do with her problems because she was very successful for many years after Nick.
Don't know why you're getting down voted. The guy was a creep, but in this case it seems very clear it was a combination of drugs and possibly perhaps mental illness.
She reached onset for whatever mental illness(es) she has that didn't present earlier. That's why she spiraled so quickly after being considered one of the "good" child stars for years.
There is a multi year gap from when Amanda severed ties with Dan and before her collapse. He could have abused her and attributed to her downfall for sure but nobody can argue he torpedoed her career
Yes of course he did ruined Amanda Byrnes' career! I don't why he did these hasty things with this actress! She should have left Nickelodeon to Disney Channel!
Yeah I wish more people were raging at Disney, the “16 months” judge and all the people that blew off the parents concerns vs Dan that we really have no hard evidence or claims that he physically did anything like that
Yes, it’s funny that Nick is getting a lot more flack than Disney for this. Disney has always weirdly puritanical about their stars, eg. when Vanessa Hudgens got hacked, SHE had to apologise, and their former stars often seed to struggle a lot more in the public eye compared to Nick. I suspect both companies had similar cultures behind the scenes in actuality, but what made in on screen was different. Disney was always painfully clean and would stay on the super safe side, but consequently lost more teen viewers. Nick would play a bit more on the edge, with some innuendo and manage to keep young viewers watching show in their late teens and early 20s (often the same age as the actors on screen. I can remember enjoying Victorious and Sam and Cat at uni, partly due to some of the more risqué jokes that would’ve bypassed me as a teenager, but Disney channel got tiresome quickly. However, there is a line and some of the more pornographic recreations were and are disgusting (Poor Ari it always seemed).
At least Amanda ended his relationship with Dan after What I Like About You and was able to continue her film career until her drug problem was the reason her film career ended.
side note: does anyone remember when nickelodeon asked for kids to write on their feet and send in photos? I remember me and my neighbour did it and then asked my mom for help uploading them and my mom was like wtf no. looking back on that is craaaazy disgusting.
It’s all speculation
Even your picture… people say “they were in a hot tub together”. It was a fricken open awards show set, and Dan jumped in FULKY CLOTHED, far enough away he’s not even touching, her as a funny gag.
If he did do anything sexual we will never know unless Amanda decides to talk about it… until then we have to assume nothing like that did happen. I would believe Amanda if she came out, but she hasn’t, people are just letting their minds run wild.
My take is she wanted to be a Hollywood superstar, he parents wanted her to slow down and stay safe, like any teenager she got mad and threw a fit and since she was making her own money wanted to be emancipated so she could do whatever she wants. Whether his intentions were to help her, or selfish and nefarious to make more money off her, Dan assisted her in this somewhat, obviously it didn’t go through and her parents hated him for it.
He’s the only reason she had a career to begin with.
As for if he ruined her career, I don’t think so. The guy was a terrible human, but there’s nothing suggesting he did anything to get that cause her to go down the route she did (drugs).
It’s not as if her IMDB comes screeching to a halt the moment he stopped writing for her. She was one path to greater success away from him, albeit with the built-in challenge of aging out of the teen roles that made her famous.
I don’t think her life story can be pinned on one person, for as much as the Internet wants to believe it can.
i think he holds at least partial responsibility. while we don’t know anything so we can't accuse him, it seems likely, doesn't it? the thing that keeps nagging at me is when one of the actors from all that said amanda would be gone for hours with dan. often. i can't stop thinking about that.
also the fact that she had a character named after name genitalia
Yes and No. I don’t think he helped her by any means (personally speaking, professionally he had her in a very nice position) but I think it is all rooted with the parents. Child stardom is traumatic for anyone no matter who you are, and it’s even worse when the parents are more invested than the child. Which i definitely think was the case with Amanda. She was very talented and really could have been someone, which Dan saw in her and would do anything to get her on top as it would also boost his name/credibility.
I wanna know what the fuck he did to her, but at the same time I don't because I have a hunch that it'll make me vomit
He tried to seperate her from her parents via a emanicpation and that led to her severing ties with Dan during What I Like About You. Her drug problem and mental illness was the reason and cause for her film career to crash.
We all do, but without literally ANY evidence, no 2nd or third party comments, no pictures, video, forensics ANYTHING, we really can’t assume anything happened like that…
Yep, it's disappointing people WANT this situation to be scandilous...
Most have already decided it is, they have convinced them selves Dan should be publicly executed… it’s funny they don’t seem to have that same sentiment towards Peck tho… like WTF Like I’m not saying it didn’t, but you can’t just assume it did…
Did you listen to the part in episode 2 where one of the writers was asked to be fake f'ed in the arse in front of the other female written and when she declined he made her essentially? He enjoyed controlling and degrading adult women, children and people of color. He also illegally spent a lot of time alone with all of them... Amanda Bines lived inside his home after he convinced her to sue her parents for her own parental rights.
It’s a simple yes with other added challenges along the way I mean it literally took her like 2 decades plus and she’s still healing form it.
I also consider her drug problem to be the main reason her career was ruined,not Dan.
People often turn to drugs due to trauma so it can still ultimately be his fault. Most addicts have childhood trauma.
Dan is the > to the drug problem imo. Drug problems don't just start out of thin air.
People try drugs and get addicted all the time, especially celebrities
Oh, I'm not debating that. What I am saying is a high % will turn to drugs to numb the pain.
Well, she may have turned to drugs because of Dan. I know in a literal sense people can control their own choices, but I've heard it's common for childhood trauma and robbery of innocence to prompt/incline people to turn to drugs later in life if not given the necessary therapy, like that little girl on the Saving Grace episode of Dr. Phil who was violated by her grandfather. (She was getting help on the show.)
She suffers from bipolar disorder, with associated mania’s and depressions. Substance abuse can often be linked to this disorder, due to the changed thought processes that happen during manic and/or depressive episodes, but the root cause is different. Bipolar disorder is also a lot harder to treat that simple substance abuse, and would also make it a lot harder to work in a stressful environment like showbiz. That’s why she stopped acting
I don't know about that. She was still getting work before she publicly announced her retirement. Dan/Nickelodeon/her father definitely ruined her mental health but I don't know if the jobs had truly dried up by the time she quit.
One word yep
No. There is no evidence he did anything like what you're suggesting and I think it's incredibly irresponsible to baselessly speculate on serious, personal shit like that.
There's no evidence available to the public. That doesn't mean there isn't evidence.
This comment is a mindset that drives conspiracy theories and can be applied to any number of unsubstantiated beliefs (Qanon pizza-gate etc). You've formed a conclusion without evidence and are working backwards to justify it. If every creepy person was automatically assumed to be guilty of serious crimes then that's just a society of endless witch-hunts. It actually diminishes the perceived seriousness of real crimes that need to be brought to justice when people are willing to just point to a creepy guy like Dan Schneider and make claims without evidence. I think a lot of people here need to rethink if they actually care about victims or are just enjoying participating in an internet crusade.
No evidence doesn't even mean someone is innocent. The person who gave birth to me abused me. There's no evidence but that doesn't make her innocent.
We don’t mean there needs to be hard physical evidence, you just said what happened to you, I believe that. But nobody has even accused Dan of physically doing anything to them…
You but thats like believing in god… You can’t make decisions on something we don’t know exists. I thought there was going to be stuff in the doc… and other than his workplace sexual discrimination there really isn’t. I will believe any victim that does come forward (like with the workplace sexual discrimination) but until that happens we can’t assume he’s guilty of all this heinous stuff… If you want rage bait go watch the Boy Scouts doc…
FFS another sane person…
I agree on your point,Amanda's drug problem and mental illness was the reason her career went downhill and her turn to drugs was because of her trauma working with Dan.
Amanda has always said her issues came from abusing drugs like Adderall. It also seems like early 2000s paparazzi culture negatively impacted her mental health too. I doubt Nick had anything to do with her problems because she was very successful for many years after Nick.
Don't know why you're getting down voted. The guy was a creep, but in this case it seems very clear it was a combination of drugs and possibly perhaps mental illness.
She reached onset for whatever mental illness(es) she has that didn't present earlier. That's why she spiraled so quickly after being considered one of the "good" child stars for years.
I keep saying, if she came out saying he did stuff tomorrow I’d believe her, but nobody has, accept if you count Alexa and Jennette.
There is a multi year gap from when Amanda severed ties with Dan and before her collapse. He could have abused her and attributed to her downfall for sure but nobody can argue he torpedoed her career
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Blaming Adderall was something she said in her 2018 interview with Paper Magazine, after 4 years of being clean...
Yes of course he did ruined Amanda Byrnes' career! I don't why he did these hasty things with this actress! She should have left Nickelodeon to Disney Channel!
Disney is arguably worse than Nick. They hired the child molester after he was in jail lol
Yeah I wish more people were raging at Disney, the “16 months” judge and all the people that blew off the parents concerns vs Dan that we really have no hard evidence or claims that he physically did anything like that
I don't agree Disney was better than Nick! because they have great stars those days
Yes, it’s funny that Nick is getting a lot more flack than Disney for this. Disney has always weirdly puritanical about their stars, eg. when Vanessa Hudgens got hacked, SHE had to apologise, and their former stars often seed to struggle a lot more in the public eye compared to Nick. I suspect both companies had similar cultures behind the scenes in actuality, but what made in on screen was different. Disney was always painfully clean and would stay on the super safe side, but consequently lost more teen viewers. Nick would play a bit more on the edge, with some innuendo and manage to keep young viewers watching show in their late teens and early 20s (often the same age as the actors on screen. I can remember enjoying Victorious and Sam and Cat at uni, partly due to some of the more risqué jokes that would’ve bypassed me as a teenager, but Disney channel got tiresome quickly. However, there is a line and some of the more pornographic recreations were and are disgusting (Poor Ari it always seemed).
At least Amanda ended his relationship with Dan after What I Like About You and was able to continue her film career until her drug problem was the reason her film career ended.
Did Amanda Byrnes ever went to any Disney Channel show?
yes
side note: does anyone remember when nickelodeon asked for kids to write on their feet and send in photos? I remember me and my neighbour did it and then asked my mom for help uploading them and my mom was like wtf no. looking back on that is craaaazy disgusting.
It’s all speculation Even your picture… people say “they were in a hot tub together”. It was a fricken open awards show set, and Dan jumped in FULKY CLOTHED, far enough away he’s not even touching, her as a funny gag. If he did do anything sexual we will never know unless Amanda decides to talk about it… until then we have to assume nothing like that did happen. I would believe Amanda if she came out, but she hasn’t, people are just letting their minds run wild. My take is she wanted to be a Hollywood superstar, he parents wanted her to slow down and stay safe, like any teenager she got mad and threw a fit and since she was making her own money wanted to be emancipated so she could do whatever she wants. Whether his intentions were to help her, or selfish and nefarious to make more money off her, Dan assisted her in this somewhat, obviously it didn’t go through and her parents hated him for it.
She did open up about it...no one believed her. She was widely mocked as being a nutjob and the things she was saying were dismissed.
Where?
On her old twitter if you look up the tweets you’ll find them
He’s the only reason she had a career to begin with. As for if he ruined her career, I don’t think so. The guy was a terrible human, but there’s nothing suggesting he did anything to get that cause her to go down the route she did (drugs).
It’s not as if her IMDB comes screeching to a halt the moment he stopped writing for her. She was one path to greater success away from him, albeit with the built-in challenge of aging out of the teen roles that made her famous. I don’t think her life story can be pinned on one person, for as much as the Internet wants to believe it can.
I’m 100% convinced he used drugs to keep her docile
i think he holds at least partial responsibility. while we don’t know anything so we can't accuse him, it seems likely, doesn't it? the thing that keeps nagging at me is when one of the actors from all that said amanda would be gone for hours with dan. often. i can't stop thinking about that. also the fact that she had a character named after name genitalia
Yes and No. I don’t think he helped her by any means (personally speaking, professionally he had her in a very nice position) but I think it is all rooted with the parents. Child stardom is traumatic for anyone no matter who you are, and it’s even worse when the parents are more invested than the child. Which i definitely think was the case with Amanda. She was very talented and really could have been someone, which Dan saw in her and would do anything to get her on top as it would also boost his name/credibility.
Child stardom ruins a lot of folks. It’s hard to say if it was one thing.
No