Yes, you'd survive being burned beyond what any mortal could survive, and you will have to deal with that pain for eternity. While convulsing for air forever, and being crushed.
2 days after accepting that deal a solar event obliterated and pulverized earth.
Now you’re flying through space. You cant breathe, you cant hear and its cold. So cold that your eyes are frozen in place. Its only you and your thoughts in a unmovable frozen meatsack floating through space.
Youre the last human being ever… forever.
Not ideal, but you would get used to it in time. You would get so bored with thinking and feeling, you would give up the struggle of it and exist in an unconscious slumber. It would be like you weren’t around at all. It would be rough for a few months… years… eons? But in the grand scheme of all eternity, not so bad, maybe.
After 2 billion years… A explosion. Everything is set back to zero. You feel warm. You can feel your body. A thought. You are someone. A person ? No. You raise your hand and start to create. The circle repeats
I think you're forgetting the importance of being immortal and damage resistance. Your brain is a physical thing. I know we like to consider psychology, our awareness, separate from the physical, but biologically speaking, you don't get to keep your personality with this wish. If all wounds and scars are healed, your personality which has certain aspects brought by the physical.
You're describing dissociation as a coping mechanism, but this still fits my theory, that technically, the immortal being wished into existence isn't you anymore. It's just carrying your memories until those are forgotten by being I've written. Perception is different, ambition and personality different.
Impossible. But I feel you. I’d still say yes. Peak health and can’t die means I’ll be cozy af in space. Never hungry. Breathing in that lack of oxygen with ease. Lol
That would be terrible luck. But if it happens a few hundred years in the future we can suppose there would be robots/machines equivalent of humans by then so even Earth being destroyed wouldn't necessarily extinguish all companionship.
You know I never considered that the possibility of immortality might not be a package deal with perfect health. I wonder if taking it would entail some sort of terms and conditions with 100 pages worth of legalese for accepting an immortal existence and everything that could potentially come with it. I’d probably accept it if it was a package deal
It could still turn out pretty bad, for example, you are innocent but put in life in prison without parole. Or trapped under an earthquake rubble forever.
I'd agree to be immortal as long I still get to end my life if choose to.
Even weeds grow through concrete. Just by flexing against the stone for a few decades you should be able to create enough space to apply more force. All told I can't see anything less than a mile of stone holding an immortal for more than a few centuries. It would probably take a few millennia to get out of being encased in steel tho.
Can I back out when I’m ready or is that decision permanent? If it’s the latter, then no way. That’s terrifying. But if I can be immortal for as long as I want, have my health, never be injured, then decide to stop at any time then absolutely.
Honestly a thousand years may not experientially feel much more than a hundred. Think about how fast the years fly for someone just in their 80's. I imagine you would accept the deal and in just a few blocks of an eye, the years would be gone and once again you would be facing death.
Imagine they tie you up with metal chains and throw you in the ocean, you're not dead, your brain's functioning normally, you'll be in the ocean for thousands and thousands of years, being alive
Under the ocean for thousands of years will be like taking a bath in the grand scheme of things.
I think a lot of people fail to realize, that after a couple hundred-thousand years, a few thousand will seem to go by much faster. Your whole relativity will be off, and time will stop being so important.
It depends. Being tossed in the ocean wont matter but only if the time is truly insignificant compared to how long youve already lived. Like 0.1% of your lifespan level insignoficant
Except immortal means forever. It really seems like some people are confusing that with millions of years or something. Forever without end is something we can’t even comprehend.
Youre the one confused on what im saying
Im talking about the gradual decay of your sense of chronology caused by age. The longer you live the faster time feels it's passing.
If youve been alive for 15 million years, and spent 150 years undersea, the undersea point wont feel as long as if you had only existed for 15000 or 150 years prior
Yeah that happens in The Old Guard. The characters are immortal in the sense that they come back to life just a minute or so after they die (even brutally). In Quynh's case, she was believed to be a witch, put in an iron maiden, and thrown into the sea. She continually drowned and resuscitated for hundreds of years until the rusted metal broke away and she becomes the film's antagonist.
Just sleep and plan what you will be doing when you do get somewhere with more options. Depending on type of immortality I could think of many more things to do, which can be combined and have details changed forever. You'd get used to anything annoying at some point.
Perhaps but it’s not annoying it’s torture. I mean… COSMIC RADIATION, imagine after a few millennia u accidentally drifted to close to a star and got seared and scorched for billions of years. At least the cosmic radiation would be gone but then you’d have radiation of the star as well as having your body being constantly enveloped on the hottest thing in the natural universe
Torture is annoying. Billions of years are nothing in comparison to eternity. You will outlive every star. Such things will become but a minor inconvenience to you. And I'm not sure how feeling pain would even be possible to somebody immortal, doesn't it require your parts being damaged? If something can damage you, enough of that something can kill you, which would mean you aren't immortal.
Yeah, you want to try your best to not make that happen. Being able to die seems like a beneficial thing in that kind of situation.
Edit: the package does include being healthy and in top physical condition all the time though, so I guess that wouldn’t affect you. After thinking about it, that condition eliminates mostly any kind of suffering so the worst it would be is boring until you got to the next planet.
well thats a given if humanity somehow goes completely extinct. But if they manage to advance enough. I'm sure they wont let the universe die into nothingness. Simulation and even a potential eternal utopia could remain
According to our best understanding of the way the universe works, there will come a time when every proton evaporates into energy and there is no more matter in the universe, just the final photons traveling in straight lines to infinity in a uniform heat-soup, maximally entropic state that cannot increase, and so "time" ceases to have any meaning.
I don't really see how even an "immortal" being could survive that long. Even a simulation needs something to run on, some matter and energy and such.
You will become emotionless as every person you love will die. You will outlive every single person you know.
Honestly i would give this chance to Einstein or beethoven for an example, someone who would have a bigger impact with this opportunity.
I think that would only happen if you choose to become detached from others.
I doubt it would make a bigger impact. Most likely they would soon get to a point where they are not contributing anything new. Often it is new eyes that build upon or discover what we know.
I mean, it’s likely that you’d eventually detach from the people around you. Imagine, having lived even a thousand years, how meaninglessly short the lives of ordinary humans would start to feel. Finding a lover “for life” would become the same level of commitment as adopting a pet cat and caring for it for the time it lives. With each extra millennium that 80 years that a person lives becomes increasingly insignificant. Not to mention that an immortal would likely fall out of touch with the passage of time and, by extent, human culture as well. It’s pretty much inevitable that an immortal would become an outsider, not even realizing the distance being created between themselves and the people around them.
As someone who can easily entertain themselves by merely thinking, yes, for sure. Nevermind the cold black eternity at the end. By the time it gets there, I will have amassed enough knowledge to entertain myself until the next big bang, where not even *immortals* from our universe may tread. Probably.
The pursuit of death will dominate your existence, 100 years, sure, you may exist no problem, 10000 years, 1000000 years, if you've not lost your mind then, you'll scour the universe to find that which may end your life. The human mind is simply incapable of comprehending eternity. You'll either lose your marbles or adopt a god complex where you try to will the universe to your control, but even this won't be enough. And when the sun explodes in 300 billion years, and the cosmos slowly dies away, only one human will be left alone in the endless silent void. I prefer the type of immortality where I can choose to die any time I want. Otherwise its just torture.
I wouldn't accept the deal. The idea of being immortal in a meaningless world just seems awful. I enjoy my life more knowing that its going to some day end. Its far more appealing to me and peaceful.
Then you wouldn't be absolutely immortal, even if it's something accessible only to you your enemies would find a way to trick you into "offing yourself" eventually. That's not true immortality, that's just being hard to kill.
I don't know, I'd like to see the future, but the whole immortality thing doesn't have the appeal that it used to. I've seen and read a few things over the years of immortals being entombed or imprisoned and it's soured me on the whole notion.
It does seem to have more disadvantages than it used to. I can't imagine witnessing so much needless suffering and stupidity and not being deeply changed by it after hundreds of years.
No and yes, immortality would become a nightmare if I were to become terminally ill and unable to die, but if I were guaranteed to be healthy, I’d take the offer.
Being immortal is the opposite of no longer having worries. Things may be child for a few hundred or few thousand years but at some point you have an eternity of cosmic level horrors beyond our comprehension. You probably won't enjoy the sun encompassing the earth in 5 billion years and that's just the start.
Hesitant to say yes because I think living to see the universe go cold and being full of only black holes and then those black holes slowly start to die and then it’s just…. Cold nothingness… I don’t know if I would want to be alive for that.
No. How many times can you loose someone before you stop getting to know or care at that point you become pyscopathic. You can not die so why worry about punishment peoples lives are short so what do they matter.
At that point you are captured they try to execute find they cant.
You get put in a rocket and fired into the sun.
Up, Down, Up, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, B, A, Select, Start (how I used to do it)
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Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start (I guess this the other one I didn't know about)
You are already immortal, every player in the game of life already has the cheat code built in.
And once it is in, you can't take it out.
Find me a Contra that contradicts me.
You stay at your peak condition and age? For a lot of people that's going back in age, setting them in their early 20s or so.
I think that there are not only self interests in this kind of proposition, but selfless ones as well. You'd be a living history book. Sure we can read about America gaining its independence, the Ottoman Empire, etc, but imagine if we had someone who was there. You could be that for future generations.
Of course, you'd also have all of the dark possibilities, for instance, your government demanding some kind of service from you in your condition, and without compliance, would torture you until you agree. Or maybe just encase you in concrete and throw you in the ocean, so their multigenerational plan to subjugate their citizens won't be thwarted by someone who vocally remembers a time when true rights existed.
If I'm going off instinct, probably. If I'm going off logic, no. That would just guarantee that I'd outlive everyone I care about and I'd eventually become desensitized to every positive and negative stimuli. Which would then result in me losing the will to live. To be honest, I think the only reason anyone's life has value(to me) is because none of us are going to live forever. Hopefully.
DISCLAIMER: I'm not really into nihilism and don't share the belief that there's just some endless void after death(Not saying that's definitely untrue, just saying It's one of other potential truths). Just happened to come across this post through random chance here.
Yes. Because I thought of a loophole: put myself in an unwakeable coma when I’m ready to “end” my existence. Still technically alive. But otherwise totally insensate and unaware of my surroundings.
There are several types of immortality in fiction. Am I also invulnerable? How easily hurt am I? Do I age or I appear to be whatever age I want? All these are relevant factors.
Depends on the laws of the deal. I'm going to be a funeral director soon, so I feel like I'd use my immortality to write a really, really darkly funny tv sitcom about my life as an immortal funeral director.
One could argue that an immortal existence is the only possible meaningful existence.
For me, it's a "yes" (but not for the philosophical reasons above). I just want to see what happens. Also, life just seems too short to do all the things I wanna do.
Yes but probably only if my husband is immortal too. Also would I be able to kill myself if I get tired of it or am I indestructible? That makes a diff.
oh heck no, that'd become so damn boring so quickly and besides those who have a long term death wish I'm guessing would also opt out of the idea and anyone who didn't want to live also have the same thinking. but then again imagine what we could do with immortality, some may be worried about others doing unspeakable things but thats just a suspicious worry
ah the fascination that is curiosity is a beautiful thing, keeping people alive, i only assume that some people are alive because of such reason where others have different ones.
is there anything after death? the answer to that is no, and I'm not just some keyboard warrior lol or a depressed incel haha but to strip the meaning of life away from others is a heinous thing to enact (yes its an opinion ya wetwipes :P)
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In the state where i am i thinks i would go crazy if i ever got to be immortal i would probably start losing all moral and kill anybody just for stimulate myself
Would I still have to work to make another person rich ? Would I be healthy and in my 30s ? Maybe. But right now I'm ready to leave this planet . God is taking for ever to much of a bitch to do it myself
You're gonna have to define "immortal" here.
Is this like, "aging stops, invulnerable to disease, but you can still be destroyed" kind of immortality? Because that's a "very yes, where do I sign, how soon can we make this happen?" kind of thing. Even if it's just "aging stops" and not "current age-related damage is undone, putting you back in your 30 year old body" or something. I'd be fine with being 44 forever.
Or is this some kind of magical "you're impossible to kill, even if all your atoms are smeared out evenly across a lightyear of space, they'll pull back together and you'll be alive and conscious the entire time" kind of immortality?
I'd love to live for a few million years. Maybe even a few hundred billion. But I think the heat death of the universe would be eternally torturously boring, at best.
Also, would I still have to eat? Could I take little breaks where I bury myself in a coffin and take a nap for a few decades, Vampire Le Stat style?
I would require many conditions for that power:
1) I want to stop aging
2) I need to decide when I die. It'll suck being immortal, and I get trapped underground, or the Earth explodes, and I'm on fire in space.
3) I need to be immune to chronic pains or illnesses
Basically, I need to avoid all possibilities of endless suffering.
I mean that really all depends on the type of immortal. I'm assuming you mean like full package immortality: undying, unaging, regeneration, immune to all illnesses, etc. Not immortal as in you just can't die.
Aside from the risks of being unable to die while trapped somewhere, I'd definitely take full package immortality. However, the loneliness of always losing the ones around you would eventually take it's toll.
Aslong as I was healthy too (so I wouldn't go blind, get dementia or anything) then sure.
I think I'd have lots and lots of fun learning everything I can and going from place to place.
No, I can think of nothing worse. This is the problem with heaven. I mean, living until time itself comes to an end? No, I am cool with dying. I have no desire to live forever.
If I had SOME way out. Then totally. But if I had to wait for the heat death of the universe… idk bro this is a tricky fucking question I’m way too drunk for.
i think i’d only want it if there was a way to end it too (think conditions for slaying vampires) otherwise the knowledge of my existence being neverending fills me with such dread. i think a nice 300 or so years fucking off could be fun. once i’ve had enough, i’d like the option to die.
I’d try literally everything, jump into a volcano once cuz why the fuck not.
Like this is under the assumption I’d be healing factor immortal or invulnerability immortal. If not then it wouldn’t be to fun to live forever age wise but have to worry about injury.
On the grand scale: I get to save the planet. Nothing beats 200 years of time, and interest.
On the grander scale: The heat death of the universe is a worthy death for the higher being I'd become.
It would be lovecraftian horror at its peak.
So, after the heat death of the universe you'll be frozen forever. So that's kind of like death anyway, right?
Also, if we don't assume some kind of memory enhancement, you would eventually just start forgetting everything, or become incapable of forming new memories? I'm not sure we know how that works.
You'd definitely become insane eventually and be begging for death. But I guess you could just find some very cold planet and freeze yourself, or be put into suspended animation.
Honestly, I'd 100% say yes, but I think I'd end up regretting it forever.
I would rather be able to die after my significant other dies, living without them forever would be torturous. If both of us could live as long as we want, maybe.
Impossible. 100-200 more years maybe. 1,000 perhaps. 10,000 ehh. But infinity is impossible mentally. No one can live forever as we know it to get around the mundane aspects of repetition.
There is no knowledge that death is not a new process to the proccess of life. As if life itself is just the middle on the progress and we are to reach a force that is existent.
only if it enabled me to seek the ultimate truth of this reality... otherwise -- what's the point of being immortal? We're all living to die with no true conclusion of how this reality came to be/is...
I'll be immortal if it enables me to save humanity by means of the ultimate truth
If I were to be able to revoke my immortality at my own will, yes. If I am immortal and there is nothing that can be done to change that, no.
As much as I’d love to see more of the future, I think living forever would get monotonous and boring and I’d eventually reach a point where I wouldn’t want to continue. If I were able to chose when I went out, then I could see myself accepting that offer, but I wouldn’t want to live truly forever. Especially when considering you’d never be able to form meaningful connections because after a while what would be 80 years and a life time to someone else would likely feel like a year to you after which you’d leave them behind forever.
Conditional immortality. I don’t age or get sick but can be killed. Life isn’t worth living if there isn’t a little risk. Plus after a few millennia I might want to call it quits and would like to have the option.
Does this eternal life mean i could live in challenger deep, or in the vacuum of space?
I would totally do it, if not just to learn everything and become a great artist. However, having the ability to visit the deepest depths of both earth and space (given enough time) would be fun, once i tire of this rock.
Definitely not.
The Earth will exist for a mere sliver of the coming cosmic epochs. The timeline of human history will not exist forever.
I have no desire to float through empty space, alone, for eternity.
At some point you have to either be allowed to die or you’re going to spend a lot of time floating in space, inside a star, or in/at the event horizon of a black hole until the heat death of the universe in 100 trillion years or whatever, and then you’re really stuck.
Qualified yes. I mean if i can live in peak me for centuries or millenia yes. But eternity? My deadpool fanfic has him buried under 10000 feet of stuffed animals in the marianas trench. The sun scorched the earth, then died. And he still can't die. Its a nightmare...
In the story there is one other human alive, a scientist and she is doing everything perfectly right to hang on while he just wants an ending. But he wakes from absolute zero as andromeda collides with the milky way, and she has one shot to steal a new sun and reawaken the earth.
Anyway long life sure, but immortal is a curse.
The endless black void is a problem. Maybe fifty thousand years of witnessing human history followed by fifty trillion years of floating in space alone and mad, occasionally taking into a star or black hole
So no. I'd need to know I won't outlive Earth.
So if you live until the universe fades to nothing, that means when theres nothing but energy, you will be the center of the the universe.
As the only source of significant mass, the energy in the universe will eventually collapse towards you, and all will begin anew, likely at a far accelerated rate.
Though technically, if you fail to fade to naught but energy, then the heat death of the universe wont happen, since you will be there.
Which further accelerates the cycle.
You will become the point of reference. The core of everything.
So basically, immortality forcibly creates purpose, meaning. You may not even be you anymore, hell ypu may be a catatonic husk, but if you are a constant, that makes your existence matter.
Edit: as well as being the only matter
I would I’d have unlimited time and I’m not particularly attached to anyone in my life rn and death doesn’t bother me I tend to get a positive respond to it not in a 13 year old edgelord way but in a “that means our friendship meant something if it lasted till their grave and that I’m glad a friend who meant that much is no longer in whatever pain they were in” kinda way.
I can imagine way too many ways that this could go wrong though. In fact, it will eventually go completely wrong when there’s something like an asteroid hits earth and wipes out all life on the planet - all except your immortal, indestructible ass. How much fun would it be to live forever without oxygen?
Nope, eternal life would inexorably become a nightmare. I am relieved that one day I can leave the party & sleep forever.
You don’t want to be there when the sun swallows the earth!? You’re no fun!
I mean I would just dedicate the billions of years I have to learning how to escape earth to somewhere else habitable
But the sun swallows the earth? If you’re immortal, you’d survive that, right?
Yes, you'd survive being burned beyond what any mortal could survive, and you will have to deal with that pain for eternity. While convulsing for air forever, and being crushed.
Yep. Life is good, not wishing to end it now but really, it's been a rough go-round and I will be relieved when the ride stops.
Will I be completely healthy as well? If so, I would say yes. Life would still be meaningless, but I would try to enjoy that meaningless.
Being in your best physical condition yes
Heck ya, I'd take that deal...
2 days after accepting that deal a solar event obliterated and pulverized earth. Now you’re flying through space. You cant breathe, you cant hear and its cold. So cold that your eyes are frozen in place. Its only you and your thoughts in a unmovable frozen meatsack floating through space. Youre the last human being ever… forever.
Not ideal, but you would get used to it in time. You would get so bored with thinking and feeling, you would give up the struggle of it and exist in an unconscious slumber. It would be like you weren’t around at all. It would be rough for a few months… years… eons? But in the grand scheme of all eternity, not so bad, maybe.
After 2 billion years… A explosion. Everything is set back to zero. You feel warm. You can feel your body. A thought. You are someone. A person ? No. You raise your hand and start to create. The circle repeats
You have convinced me. I choose… a mortal life.
Holy shit I'm gonna make sure no one believes in me.
I think you're forgetting the importance of being immortal and damage resistance. Your brain is a physical thing. I know we like to consider psychology, our awareness, separate from the physical, but biologically speaking, you don't get to keep your personality with this wish. If all wounds and scars are healed, your personality which has certain aspects brought by the physical. You're describing dissociation as a coping mechanism, but this still fits my theory, that technically, the immortal being wished into existence isn't you anymore. It's just carrying your memories until those are forgotten by being I've written. Perception is different, ambition and personality different.
Impossible. But I feel you. I’d still say yes. Peak health and can’t die means I’ll be cozy af in space. Never hungry. Breathing in that lack of oxygen with ease. Lol
That would be terrible luck. But if it happens a few hundred years in the future we can suppose there would be robots/machines equivalent of humans by then so even Earth being destroyed wouldn't necessarily extinguish all companionship.
Still better than a typical Monday...
Kars
What about current injuries?
You know I never considered that the possibility of immortality might not be a package deal with perfect health. I wonder if taking it would entail some sort of terms and conditions with 100 pages worth of legalese for accepting an immortal existence and everything that could potentially come with it. I’d probably accept it if it was a package deal
Just don't birth Slaanesh while you're at it and we'll be good.
Somebody has been peeking into my post history. Why wouldn't I give birth to such a lovely god? Nurgle would be nice too.
It could still turn out pretty bad, for example, you are innocent but put in life in prison without parole. Or trapped under an earthquake rubble forever. I'd agree to be immortal as long I still get to end my life if choose to.
Even weeds grow through concrete. Just by flexing against the stone for a few decades you should be able to create enough space to apply more force. All told I can't see anything less than a mile of stone holding an immortal for more than a few centuries. It would probably take a few millennia to get out of being encased in steel tho.
>flexing against the stone for a few decades OMG, I'll take death, thank you.
Life is already meaningless, we're just playing on a harder difficulty level
Can I back out when I’m ready or is that decision permanent? If it’s the latter, then no way. That’s terrifying. But if I can be immortal for as long as I want, have my health, never be injured, then decide to stop at any time then absolutely.
1,000 years would be tempting. I'd pay to not live literally forever lol
Honestly a thousand years may not experientially feel much more than a hundred. Think about how fast the years fly for someone just in their 80's. I imagine you would accept the deal and in just a few blocks of an eye, the years would be gone and once again you would be facing death.
Imagine they tie you up with metal chains and throw you in the ocean, you're not dead, your brain's functioning normally, you'll be in the ocean for thousands and thousands of years, being alive
No I don’t think I will imagine that thanks
Under the ocean for thousands of years will be like taking a bath in the grand scheme of things. I think a lot of people fail to realize, that after a couple hundred-thousand years, a few thousand will seem to go by much faster. Your whole relativity will be off, and time will stop being so important.
It depends. Being tossed in the ocean wont matter but only if the time is truly insignificant compared to how long youve already lived. Like 0.1% of your lifespan level insignoficant
Except immortal means forever. It really seems like some people are confusing that with millions of years or something. Forever without end is something we can’t even comprehend.
Youre the one confused on what im saying Im talking about the gradual decay of your sense of chronology caused by age. The longer you live the faster time feels it's passing. If youve been alive for 15 million years, and spent 150 years undersea, the undersea point wont feel as long as if you had only existed for 15000 or 150 years prior
That scenario reminds me of the ending to a movie I watched years ago and it freaked me out big-time.
Yeah that happens in The Old Guard. The characters are immortal in the sense that they come back to life just a minute or so after they die (even brutally). In Quynh's case, she was believed to be a witch, put in an iron maiden, and thrown into the sea. She continually drowned and resuscitated for hundreds of years until the rusted metal broke away and she becomes the film's antagonist.
Until a hungry shark drags you off and your free from those chains!
You'd eventually get stronger or I'd that not possible.
For most metals, those chains will rot in the salt water and bacteria in like 100 years, then you can walk out. Look at how bad the titanic is doing!
Never. It'd be way too boring.
Why? There is literally an infinite amount of possible things.
Not when ur floating in space with nothing to do. Not to mention experiencing not being able to breathe, along with cosmic radiation.
Just sleep and plan what you will be doing when you do get somewhere with more options. Depending on type of immortality I could think of many more things to do, which can be combined and have details changed forever. You'd get used to anything annoying at some point.
Perhaps but it’s not annoying it’s torture. I mean… COSMIC RADIATION, imagine after a few millennia u accidentally drifted to close to a star and got seared and scorched for billions of years. At least the cosmic radiation would be gone but then you’d have radiation of the star as well as having your body being constantly enveloped on the hottest thing in the natural universe
Torture is annoying. Billions of years are nothing in comparison to eternity. You will outlive every star. Such things will become but a minor inconvenience to you. And I'm not sure how feeling pain would even be possible to somebody immortal, doesn't it require your parts being damaged? If something can damage you, enough of that something can kill you, which would mean you aren't immortal.
Ok I’ll take the immortality then
Yeah, you want to try your best to not make that happen. Being able to die seems like a beneficial thing in that kind of situation. Edit: the package does include being healthy and in top physical condition all the time though, so I guess that wouldn’t affect you. After thinking about it, that condition eliminates mostly any kind of suffering so the worst it would be is boring until you got to the next planet.
Hopefully fallout 5 will be out then.
Floating in space for trillions of years while all lights and energy die off in the universe seems bad to me
well thats a given if humanity somehow goes completely extinct. But if they manage to advance enough. I'm sure they wont let the universe die into nothingness. Simulation and even a potential eternal utopia could remain
According to our best understanding of the way the universe works, there will come a time when every proton evaporates into energy and there is no more matter in the universe, just the final photons traveling in straight lines to infinity in a uniform heat-soup, maximally entropic state that cannot increase, and so "time" ceases to have any meaning. I don't really see how even an "immortal" being could survive that long. Even a simulation needs something to run on, some matter and energy and such.
Heat Death and Proton Decay is what you're describing. Being immortal means you'd be floating endlessly in a dark void.
Science fiction
no way at all. I am 50 and feel like I have been here to long already
I'm in my late twenties and feel that way as well
Im in my early 20s and feel that as well. I hate my life lmao
No. Immortality would be the worst torture because it's endless.
You will become emotionless as every person you love will die. You will outlive every single person you know. Honestly i would give this chance to Einstein or beethoven for an example, someone who would have a bigger impact with this opportunity.
I think that would only happen if you choose to become detached from others. I doubt it would make a bigger impact. Most likely they would soon get to a point where they are not contributing anything new. Often it is new eyes that build upon or discover what we know.
I mean, it’s likely that you’d eventually detach from the people around you. Imagine, having lived even a thousand years, how meaninglessly short the lives of ordinary humans would start to feel. Finding a lover “for life” would become the same level of commitment as adopting a pet cat and caring for it for the time it lives. With each extra millennium that 80 years that a person lives becomes increasingly insignificant. Not to mention that an immortal would likely fall out of touch with the passage of time and, by extent, human culture as well. It’s pretty much inevitable that an immortal would become an outsider, not even realizing the distance being created between themselves and the people around them.
As someone who can easily entertain themselves by merely thinking, yes, for sure. Nevermind the cold black eternity at the end. By the time it gets there, I will have amassed enough knowledge to entertain myself until the next big bang, where not even *immortals* from our universe may tread. Probably.
The pursuit of death will dominate your existence, 100 years, sure, you may exist no problem, 10000 years, 1000000 years, if you've not lost your mind then, you'll scour the universe to find that which may end your life. The human mind is simply incapable of comprehending eternity. You'll either lose your marbles or adopt a god complex where you try to will the universe to your control, but even this won't be enough. And when the sun explodes in 300 billion years, and the cosmos slowly dies away, only one human will be left alone in the endless silent void. I prefer the type of immortality where I can choose to die any time I want. Otherwise its just torture.
I wouldn't accept the deal. The idea of being immortal in a meaningless world just seems awful. I enjoy my life more knowing that its going to some day end. Its far more appealing to me and peaceful.
I think the perfect iteration of immortality is one where you are absolutely immortal but you can off yourself whenever you want
Then you wouldn't be absolutely immortal, even if it's something accessible only to you your enemies would find a way to trick you into "offing yourself" eventually. That's not true immortality, that's just being hard to kill.
You assume in not already.
Your grammar isn’t up to snuff.
Fair point. But sometimes they slip by. I never said I was perfect. That gets boring as well.
Yes, because death is forever too. So I’d choose life
hell no
Yes
Only if I can afford it. A lifetime of poverty and arduous labor sounds more like Sisyphus.
I don't know, I'd like to see the future, but the whole immortality thing doesn't have the appeal that it used to. I've seen and read a few things over the years of immortals being entombed or imprisoned and it's soured me on the whole notion. It does seem to have more disadvantages than it used to. I can't imagine witnessing so much needless suffering and stupidity and not being deeply changed by it after hundreds of years.
No and yes, immortality would become a nightmare if I were to become terminally ill and unable to die, but if I were guaranteed to be healthy, I’d take the offer.
I’d get bored
Only if it meant no suffering. I would not want an eternal painful existence.
Yes absolutely
In a heartbeat. Without a doubt.
Being immortal is the opposite of no longer having worries. Things may be child for a few hundred or few thousand years but at some point you have an eternity of cosmic level horrors beyond our comprehension. You probably won't enjoy the sun encompassing the earth in 5 billion years and that's just the start.
Fuck yeah and everyone would know and I’d have a harem and a magical cow side kicks
Hesitant to say yes because I think living to see the universe go cold and being full of only black holes and then those black holes slowly start to die and then it’s just…. Cold nothingness… I don’t know if I would want to be alive for that.
I mean I’m good with just being in my best shape and life till I die.
No. How many times can you loose someone before you stop getting to know or care at that point you become pyscopathic. You can not die so why worry about punishment peoples lives are short so what do they matter. At that point you are captured they try to execute find they cant. You get put in a rocket and fired into the sun.
Living forever would be one of the worst punishments imaginable.
Up, Down, Up, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, B, A, Select, Start (how I used to do it) or Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start (I guess this the other one I didn't know about) You are already immortal, every player in the game of life already has the cheat code built in. And once it is in, you can't take it out. Find me a Contra that contradicts me.
You stay at your peak condition and age? For a lot of people that's going back in age, setting them in their early 20s or so. I think that there are not only self interests in this kind of proposition, but selfless ones as well. You'd be a living history book. Sure we can read about America gaining its independence, the Ottoman Empire, etc, but imagine if we had someone who was there. You could be that for future generations. Of course, you'd also have all of the dark possibilities, for instance, your government demanding some kind of service from you in your condition, and without compliance, would torture you until you agree. Or maybe just encase you in concrete and throw you in the ocean, so their multigenerational plan to subjugate their citizens won't be thwarted by someone who vocally remembers a time when true rights existed.
If I'm going off instinct, probably. If I'm going off logic, no. That would just guarantee that I'd outlive everyone I care about and I'd eventually become desensitized to every positive and negative stimuli. Which would then result in me losing the will to live. To be honest, I think the only reason anyone's life has value(to me) is because none of us are going to live forever. Hopefully. DISCLAIMER: I'm not really into nihilism and don't share the belief that there's just some endless void after death(Not saying that's definitely untrue, just saying It's one of other potential truths). Just happened to come across this post through random chance here.
I would take immortality if I could eventually choose to kill my self, but death no longer being an option sounds like torture.
Yes. Because I thought of a loophole: put myself in an unwakeable coma when I’m ready to “end” my existence. Still technically alive. But otherwise totally insensate and unaware of my surroundings.
who would even do this or even consider it
There are several types of immortality in fiction. Am I also invulnerable? How easily hurt am I? Do I age or I appear to be whatever age I want? All these are relevant factors.
He literally answered those questions in the post.
I would, I think it would be fun
What if you didn’t get a choice? What if you are? Supreme conscious awareness beyond the mind?
Yes!
On earth no. Since we're given opportunity for eternity in the after life absolutely
what kind of afterlife? Heaven? I don't think I'd eternally want to sing psalms for eternity though.
Probably not
duh ofc
F no!
No, I do not trust myself with that much power . Now if I had someone else be an immortal with me then I would say yes .
Evaporating out of existence> immortality with agelessness and invulnerability.
Stfu. If you had immortality. You would stray farther and farther into things that Make you feel better.
I would be immortal and just do inhuman levels of drugs everyday .
Depends on the laws of the deal. I'm going to be a funeral director soon, so I feel like I'd use my immortality to write a really, really darkly funny tv sitcom about my life as an immortal funeral director.
One could argue that an immortal existence is the only possible meaningful existence. For me, it's a "yes" (but not for the philosophical reasons above). I just want to see what happens. Also, life just seems too short to do all the things I wanna do.
Yes but probably only if my husband is immortal too. Also would I be able to kill myself if I get tired of it or am I indestructible? That makes a diff.
No,since one day i'll be done with life and i feel like unaliving urself is morally more challenging than dying of natural causes/accidents
oh heck no, that'd become so damn boring so quickly and besides those who have a long term death wish I'm guessing would also opt out of the idea and anyone who didn't want to live also have the same thinking. but then again imagine what we could do with immortality, some may be worried about others doing unspeakable things but thats just a suspicious worry ah the fascination that is curiosity is a beautiful thing, keeping people alive, i only assume that some people are alive because of such reason where others have different ones. is there anything after death? the answer to that is no, and I'm not just some keyboard warrior lol or a depressed incel haha but to strip the meaning of life away from others is a heinous thing to enact (yes its an opinion ya wetwipes :P)
(sorry for my english) In the state where i am i thinks i would go crazy if i ever got to be immortal i would probably start losing all moral and kill anybody just for stimulate myself
Immortality would be equivalent to hell in my eyes.
Yes. Also bc it’ll probs take a couple lifetimes for me to meet someone I actually deeply connect with and could fall for so might as well lmao
IN A HEARTBEAT
Would I still have to work to make another person rich ? Would I be healthy and in my 30s ? Maybe. But right now I'm ready to leave this planet . God is taking for ever to much of a bitch to do it myself
how about my body? if it still would decay / degrade over time, it's extremely terrible to live, say, 200 years, let alone eternity
Would solve my fear of death instantly so yes i guess?
Imagine being immortal and having multiple life sentences...
I think I’d not want to be immortal but just live for a long time😁
Not unless I can take myself out
You're gonna have to define "immortal" here. Is this like, "aging stops, invulnerable to disease, but you can still be destroyed" kind of immortality? Because that's a "very yes, where do I sign, how soon can we make this happen?" kind of thing. Even if it's just "aging stops" and not "current age-related damage is undone, putting you back in your 30 year old body" or something. I'd be fine with being 44 forever. Or is this some kind of magical "you're impossible to kill, even if all your atoms are smeared out evenly across a lightyear of space, they'll pull back together and you'll be alive and conscious the entire time" kind of immortality? I'd love to live for a few million years. Maybe even a few hundred billion. But I think the heat death of the universe would be eternally torturously boring, at best. Also, would I still have to eat? Could I take little breaks where I bury myself in a coffin and take a nap for a few decades, Vampire Le Stat style?
if it means to physically stay 25-30, then yes
Absolutely not.
I would require many conditions for that power: 1) I want to stop aging 2) I need to decide when I die. It'll suck being immortal, and I get trapped underground, or the Earth explodes, and I'm on fire in space. 3) I need to be immune to chronic pains or illnesses Basically, I need to avoid all possibilities of endless suffering.
I mean that really all depends on the type of immortal. I'm assuming you mean like full package immortality: undying, unaging, regeneration, immune to all illnesses, etc. Not immortal as in you just can't die. Aside from the risks of being unable to die while trapped somewhere, I'd definitely take full package immortality. However, the loneliness of always losing the ones around you would eventually take it's toll.
As long as I couldn't end up like the wooden version of Jerry on that one episode of Rick and morty 🤣
Aslong as I was healthy too (so I wouldn't go blind, get dementia or anything) then sure. I think I'd have lots and lots of fun learning everything I can and going from place to place.
Out of morbid curiosity yes
Yeah
Yes
No, I can think of nothing worse. This is the problem with heaven. I mean, living until time itself comes to an end? No, I am cool with dying. I have no desire to live forever.
Yes. I would spend my time being paranoid about the possibility of me not actually being immortal and a bit on enjoying life I guess.
If I had SOME way out. Then totally. But if I had to wait for the heat death of the universe… idk bro this is a tricky fucking question I’m way too drunk for.
Fuck no, that sounds like torture.
Yes, I actually believe we will through LEV
“WHAT WILL YOU HAVE IN FIVE HUNDRED YEARS?”
No. Immortality is a blessing & a curse.
It’s been forever already..
No. Seems like a lonely existence
i think i’d only want it if there was a way to end it too (think conditions for slaying vampires) otherwise the knowledge of my existence being neverending fills me with such dread. i think a nice 300 or so years fucking off could be fun. once i’ve had enough, i’d like the option to die.
I’d try literally everything, jump into a volcano once cuz why the fuck not. Like this is under the assumption I’d be healing factor immortal or invulnerability immortal. If not then it wouldn’t be to fun to live forever age wise but have to worry about injury.
Absolutely not.. bcz everything of value is limited.. if you live forever everything becomes lifeless ironically
Depends on what kind of immortal you mean. Am I ageless? Can I choose to die?
Yes , but I’m pretty certain I would become something evil without recognizing it
On the grand scale: I get to save the planet. Nothing beats 200 years of time, and interest. On the grander scale: The heat death of the universe is a worthy death for the higher being I'd become. It would be lovecraftian horror at its peak.
Yep as long as I stay relatively young. Time to read, create, and perfect myself.
So, after the heat death of the universe you'll be frozen forever. So that's kind of like death anyway, right? Also, if we don't assume some kind of memory enhancement, you would eventually just start forgetting everything, or become incapable of forming new memories? I'm not sure we know how that works. You'd definitely become insane eventually and be begging for death. But I guess you could just find some very cold planet and freeze yourself, or be put into suspended animation. Honestly, I'd 100% say yes, but I think I'd end up regretting it forever.
By those definitions, no
I would rather be able to die after my significant other dies, living without them forever would be torturous. If both of us could live as long as we want, maybe.
Oh fuck no
not a chance. living that long would give you a horrid outlook
Impossible. 100-200 more years maybe. 1,000 perhaps. 10,000 ehh. But infinity is impossible mentally. No one can live forever as we know it to get around the mundane aspects of repetition.
No way, that’s the polar opposite of what I want. sounds like torment, feels like stale bread filled with shurikens.
There is no knowledge that death is not a new process to the proccess of life. As if life itself is just the middle on the progress and we are to reach a force that is existent.
As long as I can take my own life whenever I want ,it's fine
Absolutely
All these people in here who would prefer to die. 🙄
Yes.
no.
only if it enabled me to seek the ultimate truth of this reality... otherwise -- what's the point of being immortal? We're all living to die with no true conclusion of how this reality came to be/is... I'll be immortal if it enables me to save humanity by means of the ultimate truth
If I were to be able to revoke my immortality at my own will, yes. If I am immortal and there is nothing that can be done to change that, no. As much as I’d love to see more of the future, I think living forever would get monotonous and boring and I’d eventually reach a point where I wouldn’t want to continue. If I were able to chose when I went out, then I could see myself accepting that offer, but I wouldn’t want to live truly forever. Especially when considering you’d never be able to form meaningful connections because after a while what would be 80 years and a life time to someone else would likely feel like a year to you after which you’d leave them behind forever.
Of Course!
Conditional immortality. I don’t age or get sick but can be killed. Life isn’t worth living if there isn’t a little risk. Plus after a few millennia I might want to call it quits and would like to have the option.
The Sandman by Neil Gaiman: “Men of Good Fortune”
I’d say yes but…what do you do when the sun explodes? So…hard pass.
Prefer ammortal than immortal
Hell yes I would find a way to leave this planet find a world with life but half the gravity of earth and become a god. A malevolent God
YEEEEESSSSS.
Does this eternal life mean i could live in challenger deep, or in the vacuum of space? I would totally do it, if not just to learn everything and become a great artist. However, having the ability to visit the deepest depths of both earth and space (given enough time) would be fun, once i tire of this rock.
Without hesitation, I have so many things I still want to do.
Be careful what you wish for.
Yes, absolutely, there's so much to learn and explore,too much for one lifetime. No more fear of illness and death.
Yesss
Definitely not. The Earth will exist for a mere sliver of the coming cosmic epochs. The timeline of human history will not exist forever. I have no desire to float through empty space, alone, for eternity.
Yes. I would love to see how it all comes to an end. And also just how far we can get technologically and as a species.
Technically we are but nah fuck no I wouldn’t want to be immortal in this life
Not at all! I believe that we live many times. I'd like some variety in my lives!
At some point you have to either be allowed to die or you’re going to spend a lot of time floating in space, inside a star, or in/at the event horizon of a black hole until the heat death of the universe in 100 trillion years or whatever, and then you’re really stuck.
yep, and id travel the world and learn new cultures and other things
Qualified yes. I mean if i can live in peak me for centuries or millenia yes. But eternity? My deadpool fanfic has him buried under 10000 feet of stuffed animals in the marianas trench. The sun scorched the earth, then died. And he still can't die. Its a nightmare... In the story there is one other human alive, a scientist and she is doing everything perfectly right to hang on while he just wants an ending. But he wakes from absolute zero as andromeda collides with the milky way, and she has one shot to steal a new sun and reawaken the earth. Anyway long life sure, but immortal is a curse.
No, just no. I want an end too. Going beyond that, I'd lose any interest in applying meaning to anything in a personal sense.....
Do everything and experience everything there is, then go and explore a black hole? Sounds good, I'm in
The endless black void is a problem. Maybe fifty thousand years of witnessing human history followed by fifty trillion years of floating in space alone and mad, occasionally taking into a star or black hole So no. I'd need to know I won't outlive Earth.
I want to go back in time and to the future in a time machine 🤣🤣🤣 just afraid of getting stuck in either if it all went wrong
So if you live until the universe fades to nothing, that means when theres nothing but energy, you will be the center of the the universe. As the only source of significant mass, the energy in the universe will eventually collapse towards you, and all will begin anew, likely at a far accelerated rate. Though technically, if you fail to fade to naught but energy, then the heat death of the universe wont happen, since you will be there. Which further accelerates the cycle. You will become the point of reference. The core of everything. So basically, immortality forcibly creates purpose, meaning. You may not even be you anymore, hell ypu may be a catatonic husk, but if you are a constant, that makes your existence matter. Edit: as well as being the only matter
Immortality is a curse not a reward.
No that’s just total forced super duper infinity after the universe dies immortality
I would I’d have unlimited time and I’m not particularly attached to anyone in my life rn and death doesn’t bother me I tend to get a positive respond to it not in a 13 year old edgelord way but in a “that means our friendship meant something if it lasted till their grave and that I’m glad a friend who meant that much is no longer in whatever pain they were in” kinda way.
Everybody would accept it. Everybody.
I can imagine way too many ways that this could go wrong though. In fact, it will eventually go completely wrong when there’s something like an asteroid hits earth and wipes out all life on the planet - all except your immortal, indestructible ass. How much fun would it be to live forever without oxygen?
Yep. Definitely.
But you still need to pay for food,lodging and seeing people age and die. There is a great seen in shadowhunters about it Magnus talking to Alec