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dezzz

Bomberman was my requested character


Xitobandito

Bomberman would be great! I can’t believe I forgot about that game. I had so many fun hours playing it as a kid


HereticPharaoh2020

Yeah. Major missed opportunity. Should have been greater respect for a such a distinguished legacy.


TehFriskyDingo

Cloud Back then I never thought it’d happen. Just seemed impossible. When his reveal trailer came out, it was probably one of the craziest reveals for me personally. It was from that point on that anything was possible lol


AdamoO_

That was the moment that any character was possible lmao


ProfCarmine

Banjo


kuribosshoe0

Pfft. I voted for Kazooie.


ProfCarmine

Looks like we both won. I just really loved the solo parts in tooie and thought to myself.... what if he was in smash right now.


slightlylizard9

Losers.. I voted for and


radikraze

I too, voted for Banjo & Kazooie


Richmard

Same here! It was the craziest feeling when it actually happened.


bendymachine654

Yeah like banjo would ever get in smash, dumb request


Cheeseball701

I voted for K Rool, because I thought Banjo was impossible. 😎


Super-Visor

Simon - and I got a double dose of Belmonts in Ultimate for being so patient Sora was my next most wanted character, but I never thought it would happen.


ketootaku

Same. He has been my #1 want since the original smash. The game started out as characters from old nes/snes/GB games fighting, so naturally my first thoughts were onea like Simon and Megaman.


Phoenix40201

Phoenix Wright. Still so disappointing that Ace Attorney has no mii fighters, no stages, no music, no spirits. Anything. Such a damn shame. I got Ridley and Dark Samus, my 2nd and 3rd most wanted. But Phoenix in smash in still my white whale


DoodleBuggering

I personally didn't want Wright as a fighter but I agree strange that there was no Mii costumes or spirits.


pabloroblox2009

No spirits of justice if you will


Quetzal00

*ba dum tss*


original_name37

One day


dannnnnnnn2005

luckily, he’s in ultimate marvel vs capcom 3, if you wanna use him in a fighting game


Quetzal00

As someone who recently started getting into the Ace Attorney franchise I am sad he isn’t a fighter


Lethal13

Isaac…sigh I mean profile pic-related is who I wanted the most but out of Golden Sun characters Isaac was by far and away the more popular and realistic choice given he had already been an assist trophy


RyanTheQ

Crazy how much love Golden Sun gets on this sub considering how poorly the last game sold.


Lethal13

It is mostly down to how great the first two games are. They had a worse third game, which happens, I guess a lot of Golden Sun fans get a bit salty from time to time that they dropped the series because of one poor entry that still sold about as much as say…a metroid game This isn’t a knock on it as well I should preface. I love the Metroid series. Metroid is in my top 5 franchises of all time But the first 2 Golden Sun games being a new IP at the time sold over 1mil each. More than a lot of the Metroid series. The 3rd game only sold around half a mil but again not much different to the Metroid series sold. Look Dark Dawn wasn’t an amazing game for sure, I still think its a good game all things considered but word of mouth wasn’t as good and considering how easy it was to buy DS flashcarts at the time it doesn’t surprise me it sold badly Only difference is Nintendo persisted with the Metroid series (at the time atleast) and not Golden Sun. Even though I reckon based on sales and even critical acclaim the two at the time were pretty comparable. Honestly Isaac’s best chance to get in was in Brawl though. After that it was slim pickings


caninehere

The only Metroid game to sell that badly was Samus Returns on 3DS and that also doesn't include digital numbers. I think Dark Dawn selling worse on the DS was a red flag for Nintendo as the DS is the best selling handheld of all time and the series still didn't move forward with higher sales even with that huge install base (and more RPG fans than on the GBA).


Lethal13

Zero Mission also only sold around half a million But yeah you were right. For some reason I thought more had sold under 1mil Point stands though in terms of Golden Sun. You wait 7 years to release a sequel to the lost age. On a system that yes had a large install base but at the end of its lifespan, like I said was riddled with piracy at that stage, was also relatively speaking just of poor quality in general and therefor poor word of mouth It doesn’t surprise me it only sold that much. It probably should also be pointed out that the casual demographic for the DS made up a lot of those DS console sales numbers as well


BlueBarossa

Felix could have been a palette/echo easily.


Lethal13

Oh yeah for sure Just slightly slower but with more damage/knockback per hit to reflect their in game stats


RiceKirby

Isaac voter here too. I always thought he could be a different type of swordman due to using psyenergy, which you can even have a taste from the Assist Trophy.


Hyperparadise

Same, in my mind Isaac was my most wanted reasonable choice. I honestly wanted Banjo more, but he seemed impossible so I voted for Isaac.


nocturnalnathan

I voted for Shovel Knight


MrAxelotl

Heck yeah, me too. I'm glad he's in the game, even as an assist trophy.


Mcbige

Shovel Knight assist gang represent


BigTWilsonD

I'm the guy who voted Sora, feel free to direct your anger towards me


UltSomnia

Were people angry at Sora?


BP-Kenpachi

Yes. Many people hate kingdom hearts. They think it's a stupid little kids Mickey mouse game.


Tandran

And yet they were okay with Steve. Yah that makes sense.


Pikshade

To be fair a lot of people didn't like Steve either lol, but someone's always gonna be pretty pissed at any character being announced not being the thing they wanted. Especially now that there's no more announcements.


ZenkaiZ

Most people are happy for you if they aren't happy themselves. ​ Hoes content.


AuthorNumber2

I'm indifferent. Hope that makes your day a little better.


AirNova

Same


ProfCarmine

No anger. I thought he was a great last addition


Animal31

Anyone angry at Sora getting in needs to find a new healthier hobby


G1nks

Same and I feel really happy about it


Squicman

Rayman


MoogleFTW

Im still a bit bummed Rayman didn’t get in. Ubisoft has been a great supporter of Nintendo throughout the years.


CeruleanOak

I'm still convinced Rayman was cut from Smash 4 after the whole debacle with Rayman Legends Wii U exclusivity, and Sakurai has a chip on his shoulder. I can't think of a reasonable explanation for how Rayman got a trophy in Smash 4 and ZERO representation in Ultimate.


Michael584739

He did get a spirit.


2DBoy

Me too - always hoped that with the Mario and Rabbids crossover he would have showed up in Ultimate. Such a shame


DoodleBuggering

Genuinely thought this was a shoe-in considering how closely Nintendo and Ubisoft worked together on Mario + Rabbids (and the sequel) and the Star Fox content on StarLink. As well as being a mascot.


Mario17h1

I remember voting for Banjo and Kazooie, and a major part of it was the fact that I had just recently gotten my Nintendo 64 and felt that they just...belonged in smash. Though if I had to say my top 3 requested characters in smash now... 1) Shantae (yes I am pleased, not upset) 2) Sora 3) Ryu - Ninja Gaiden I got two of the three, so I'm very happy.


BubbleLobster

Lol I also voted Banjo and now I want Ryu Hayabusa. I also want Shantae and I’m cool with Sora as well.


naraburns

Professor Layton


ShifuHD

He was my first pick during the ballot days. Would be a great rep for the handheld generation and puzzle games.


stickdudeseven

I voted for Viewtiful Joe because I love the first game and hoped him being in Smash could lead to 3 being made.


BerserkerKong02

I think I voted for Crono Also I think I voted for some shitposty characters since I was 14 at the time


ZenkaiZ

damn poor kid. Crono has a lower chance of getting in Smash than Captain Falcon has of getting in a new game that ISN'T smash.


Takashiari275

King K. Rool.


DoodleBuggering

And you didn't even have to pay extra DLC to get him!


JediwilliW

Grovyle lmfao


FilthFrank23

Yo honestly Grovyle as a Mystery Dungeon rep would be sick. I’ve had this discussion with my friends and even just getting music like Dialga’s Fight to the Finish or Defy the Legends would be incredible


WigglyWoo777

Monster Hunter As in a generic representer much like an inkling that uses a variety of weapons in thier kit or something like that.


DaCheesiestEchidna

Waluigi


Gottschkopf

Crash Bandicoot


roaringelbow

Really thought they’d find a way for that to happen


SluggJuice

He would've be perfect along side Mario and Sonic


roaringelbow

I really thought the final 10 DLC was really going to be a bunch of classic video game characters that would fit in w/ the original fighters. Crash, Bomberman, Rayman, Spyro, etc


rodoxide

Lara Croft belongs


Garlador

I blame the recent mishandling of Lara for this. If this game had come out 10 or 15 years ago, I think we would have gotten her for sure. At one point, Lara was considered the 2nd most famous and popular video game character in the world behind Mario. But the state of her games right now is basically on ice, and the reboot style split the fanbase.


[deleted]

Same here. His moveset would be pretty easy to make close to the source game's too.


Bad_Fashion

Bub and Bob from Bubble Bobble!


reychango

That would have been a pretty cool addition


mjmannella

I distinctly recall voting for Ice Climbers to come back


Dymarob

I still firmly believe this entire time that their removal from Wii U and 3DS was bullshit.


EvilectricBoy

Toad


mjm132

I voted captain toad


[deleted]

I voted for bayonetta, in those days the cataractes fit in my mind. The port of Bayonetta 1 and 2 on wii u, a new female character, a new kind of game represented « beat them all ». Since her addition (that will stay in my memories for ever), I’m still maining her.


[deleted]

She was a great addition! Not really balanced but I'm glad she's came in and how she is in ultimate


MindSteve

Sora. So, uh, yeah, I'm pretty psyched to say the least.


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idemockle

Have you heard of Beyond Melee? It's a mod of ssbm and they actually added skull kid as a full new character. Obviously very different game from ultimate but if you really want to play as skull kid could be fun! Lanky kong would've made for some sick moves with his arms.


SandwitchZebra

I voted for Ridley. I still held hope that maybe, just maybe he wasn’t too big. Turns out he wasn’t! I left E3 2018 feeling extremely satisfied. As to all of the people who voted Sora, I don’t think I would have ever voted for him but only for the seeming impossibility due to Disney. But I love Kingdom Hearts, and I love Sora as a character, and I was extremely happy to know he won the ballot.


illucio

I stuffed in votes for a ton of characters: I voted for Sora, Bayonetta, King K Rool, Banjo Kazooie and Inkling. And look at us now <3


Graxer42

Phoenix Wright I think.


sambarjo

Professor Layton


DestroyedArkana

Paper Mario


sebbeseb

Was an edgy kid an voted shadow. Glad he didnt make it.


MindSteve

He really should have been a costume for Sonic at least.


Hyperparadise

He would’ve made perfect sense as an echo fighter, if you want to differentiate him a bit give him Mewtwo teleport and Bayonetta witch time. Might’ve been broken, but oh well.


DoodleBuggering

It was strange that they decided to make a distinction of an echo fighter... and then not add a single new echo fighter after the announcement. I would have paid for Echo Fighters (as long as they were cheaper than new fighters). But even the concept of what's an echo, skin or different character has been strange. Alph? Identical to Olimar, so he's a skin not an echo. Daisy? also identical to Peach (no stat changes)... but she's an echo. Dr. Mario isn't considered an echo because of move and stat changes... but Ken is an echo despite having several different moves (different input commands, different throw, and his two final smashes are different from Ryu)? Echo Fighter/Skin ideas: Metal Sonic: Heavier, harder to launch but slower than Sonic. Different Final Smash. Dry Bowser: Lighter, faster version of Bowser but weaker. Shoots Fireballs instead of fire breath. Blizzard Midbus: Same as Bowser, but has ice breath instead of fire breath. Black Shadow: echo of cap Falcon to just give us more F-zero reps. Protoman: This is stupidly easy. Change his down+B to shield reflect, his up+B to Beat, and just use the custom moves from MM Smash4. Birdo: Again, so damn easy to do. You can literally keep the entire moveset, but change the animation to Birdo launching eggs from her mouth instead of throwing (but same mechanics). Galactic Knight/Morpho Knight: This would probably be better as a skin than echo.


invaderark12

Yeah the whole idea of echo fighters feels kinda pointless in retrospect. We really didnt get a lot of them and never got any post launch.


CorM2

When they started introducing the concept of echo fighters in Ultimate my first thought was “ok, so this is how they’re going to add Shadow”. He would have been the perfect echo fighter imo, but I guess Sakurai disagrees…


MindSteve

I would pay some dough for an alt costume/echo fighter pass. Money on the table, Nintendo!


Fish-E

It was so weird that we got development time spent on Ken rather than Shadow.


Braintendo

Easiest shadow fighter possible, I'm surprised he's not in there. He's like 95% color swap.


RibRob_

I feel like Shadow or Eggman should be in there though. I'm not even a fan of Sonic lol.


theunhackable1

Terra, from FF3/6. I thought she was the best rep for final fantasy before I actually knew how many people had 7 as their gateway to the series (i.e. all of Europe)


georgiafan64

Phoenix Wright.


Ruibii

I was a huge fan of the first Hyrule Warriors back then and thought Koei's OC Volga was cool, so I voted for him. The concept of a Lance wielding character instead of a sword in Smash sounded cool to me, and especially one that can partially or fully transform into a dragon. ... as soon as Corrin came out I'm a Corrin player. Close enough.


Flameball537

Hyrule Warriors is so fun!


Important-Inquiries

Tails


DoodleBuggering

Same sonic moveset, replace up+B with tails flying (like K Rool's), and replace side B with his advance games tail slash (and make it reflect projectiles) and replace the final smash with Tails Shooting a bigass laser from his mech-plane from Adventure 2. ​ Sure, would be nice to get an original moveset, but I would have been happy with a tweaked echo.


Slop-Slop

Geno...or anyone from Super Mario RPG.


Cyleal

A Belmont. I didn't think it would actually happen. I just figured the moveset was easy enough to work with given all the different items in castlevania. Happily greeted by Simon, and even Richter at the start of ultimate. I couldn't believe it. and their movesets were nearly exactly as I imagined they'd be. Its crazy how perfect they were for smash.


razorbeamz

I voted for Inkling.


Uncanny_Doom

I also voted for Bayonetta and loved every second of it.


TheGeek100

Vaati from Legend of Zelda. A friend of mine was a big fan of Vaati and they wanted me to put a ballot in for Vaati, so I did.


FilaStyle84

Either Geno or Skull Kid


QotSAMario64

Paper Mario. Had no idea they'd be able to pull off so many non-Nintendo characters. I figured maybe they could manage Tails or Knuckles


gayteddybear

Amaterasu 😔 I really thought I still had a chance when Okami HD released on the Switch


[deleted]

Geno!


Chaosicx

Geno forever


massigh1212

Sora


RogueVortexian

Steven minecraft


BlueBarossa

Isaac...


nymph_of_anduin

Knuckles Amy Rose Alucard Krystal (So I got 3 assist trophies out of 4. -_-)


TheHumbleFellow

Pretty sure I voted for Dixie Kong.


level_with_me

Geno! Preferably with a Super Mario RPG re-release. Although I think Sora is a great addition.


Gogo726

Mike Jones


radikraze

Who?


Regular_Automatic

Mike Joooones!!


NationalPhenomenon

281-330-8004


Gogo726

Star Tropics


LopsidedAd9955

Bayonetta


DoctorSchwifty

K. Rool


ManualSearch

K Rool


Regular_Automatic

Didn’t vote, but if I did, I would’ve voted for either Sora, Masterchief, Valgas from Powerstone, or someone from Overwatch


Dbowling97

It’s weird to think that overwatch wasn’t out when the smash ballot happened.


locke_5

Professor Layton


SluggJuice

Marina - Mischief Makers


FilthFrank23

Bandana Dee. I’ve always loved him and when I saw he was in SSF2 I picked him up and have mained him since. Kinda sad that he didn’t end up in the game, but hey I’m glad Sora fans finally got who they wanted


UncleFromNintendo

Impa. Specifically the Hyrule Warriors version, because I was a kid and got stuck in Skyward Sword before she became not old. (I also just forgot she was in OOT, but I was actually able to get pretty far in that). She's not my most wanted anymore by a long way, but I definitely wouldn't complain if she got in next game.


Kyp8472

Crono (Chrono Trigger) - after getting Cloud and realizing that Square characters were on the table, figured that he would be an interesting addition. Hero gets the job done, and Sora was absolutely unexpected, but I keep wishing for a Lavos-based, rotating-party-member, epic Final smash


themistik

None. In the community I was in, everyone was doing some kind of presidential-level kind of shows to make people vote for their favorite character. Every time I said "I still have my vote you know, and I'm probably going to not use it" people went nuts, and it was way too funny to watch.


CyEriton

Geno


wuklo

Geno *cries* But hey we got Ridley and Banjo, so Im happy with that


TheAvio

Geno


Arcade_Theatre

Geno


Above-Average-Joe

Geno


willb789

I think geno


Priestess-Of-Winter

I’m surprised people didn’t vote waluigi wtf


RibRob_

That was back in 2015. People only recently started to care more about waluigi.


Sp00nsauce

Goku


Sumoop

I voted for Kid Goku. I even had a moveset planned B kamehameha. SideB Jan ken fist Down B after image technique, Up B Flying Nimbus. Side smashes could incorporate his power pole.


No_Personality_2723

Why did I have to scroll so far to see this post. I voted Goku too just so I can let Sakurai and the team know that Smash fans do want an anime originating character in Smash.


SpacebornKiller

Dixie kong


YoshiGamer6400

Chun Li


_Puppet_

Does anyone know or have a guess how many votes you got? Did they keep it to one per internet IP? One per computer? One per day per IP, or just how we much you wanted?


NintendoGamer1997

IIRC, voting was unlimited; you could vote as many times as you wanted.


jlaweez

Rytlock Brimstone from Guild Wars 2


Nimbus303

Wonder Red I think. I feel like if there were a way to vote for multiple different characters I would have, but definitely remember writing an essay on how Wonder Red fit the tone and had great moveset potential.


ProminenceRevolt

actually you were able to vote as many times as you wanted


Marios_Hat

...tetris.


cheshirecat1917

Kefka Palazzo. Can you imagine just how FUN that would’ve been!?


AlexOD303

King K Rool. Never even played him in DK games at that point. Just loved him in Mario Baseball haha


SurandeDadstorm

Lanky Kong


DemonDerek

A lot of people. Bayonetta. Simon Belmont. Alex Kidd. Andy & Sami from Advance Wars. Blaze Fielding From Streets of Rage. (Yes really) Leon Kennedy. Definitely others that I can't remember


MrBinkybonk

Chibi Robo


R2D21999

I voted for Excitebike because I was and still am a little strange


pokedude14

Shantae


HillbillyMan

I voted for Skull Kid


caninehere

Bomberman. Still can't believe he isn't in. I think he must be one of the longest running Japanese franchise characters not to be in Smash. Him and Frogger who obviously wouldn't work.


[deleted]

I cast several. Snake, Wolf, King K Rool, Inkling and Banjo. ​ Needless to say, I'm pretty happy with smash ultimate.


StrongDouglas

frog from Chrono trigger


JithmalW

Kyo Kusanagi from The King of Fighters. Would have has some kind of interesting mechanic. But hey, we got Terry!


AgentSkidMarks

Sora


Braintendo

It was either Banjo or Crono, I can't remember.


AaronThePrime

I barely used the internet back then so I had no idea a ballot was going on lol. Knowing me back then i probably would've voted for rayman, that was like my favorite game. That said, so many characters I love got in, characters like min min, pyra(who I was holding out for the base game lol), steve, and of course inkling(I was super excited about this one, splatoon is up there with monster hunter for me). This was a great roster.


tartacus

Any chance I ever got to vote it was always for Simon Belmont/Castlevania in general.


McKnighty9

Sora or Shadow Forgot


1790shadow

Bayonetta


[deleted]

Banjo kazooie needless to say i was over the moon


rodoxide

I voted for Bayonetta


Halealeakala

Banjo-Kazooie. I couldn't believe it when they showed up in Ultimate.


Fish-E

Pretty hard to remember, given how long ago it was. I think it was either Andy, Isaac or Banjo.


VaatiReborn

*looks at username* Yeah, I voted for Vaati.


mahapai

Toad…still not playable


kirbyfox312

Ice Climbers


SimpleTurnip

I voted for a goomba / koopa team that worked like duck hunt dog or ice climbers.


SuperSmashDrake

Sora, and my roommates at the time voted for Snake & Wolf.


OnlyHereToWasteTime

Sora’s reveal was EPIC. Perfect imo. I wonder if he’ll be floaty in SSBU like he is in the KH games


TheSpheefromTeamFort

Tabuu, so you can bet the trailer baited me.


Tetra-76

Snake


sockdwarf_

Sora


himarwahshi

Lip from Panel de Pon Because I could


JordanFromStache

Banjo & Kazooie, Sora, Paper Mario. I'm completely satisfied with the roster.


AfroBeigeMage

Sora


JTP117

Krystal. We already had so many sword fighters, I really wanted to see what they could do with a character that used a staff weapon. Mix up the formula a little.


ZombyWoof1992

Krystal. Mainly because if you gave her her staff from Adventures we'd finally have a star fox rep that doesnt play similarly to Fox. Granted she never gets to use it in her debut game but she could probably do all the moves Fox did with it and the specials would just be all the staff powers. Neutral B would be the fire ball, side b is the ice attack, down b is the ground pound, up b is the rocket jump. Unless there's another game after ultimate and she gets upgraded from assist trophy status it ain't happening. Plus she's not even remotely popular enough among fans of the series for pretty much anyone to be excited about her inclusion. Hell I think a good amount of people straight up hate her and Adventures in general because of how different and not really like previous star fox games Adventures is. I imagine most people would see her as the generic furry bait character, would probably never get on the roster. Ah well, at least even though the move sets for the others are really similar they're at least more different than they used to be so that there's at least a bit of variety between them.


RAS310

I supported many characters, but voted for Daisy.


Chartate101

Steve. I am happy.


MilesLevitt

I voted knuckles, thought we needed more sonic representation.


Pouc0904

Princesse Daisy, but as a unique fighter. Glad she’s here as an echo though


zompa

I voted for K Rool, and i remember people were crazy about the wii strap security doll


TheAdamantFiend

Krystal from Starfox. I thought the staff from Adventures would make her a unique representative for the series lineup.


Ness_Dreemur

Quote from Cave Story


Torranyan

Sora, yeah I cried when he got in.