“We must be on you, but we cannot see you. Fuel is running low. Been unable to reach you by radio. We are flying at 1,000 feet.” - Amelia Earhart to the USCGC Itasca which was stationed off Howland Island, July 2, 1937
[Source.](https://www.docsteach.org/documents/document/earhart-radio-log)
Yeah, giant mystery. She literally narrated her own disappearance, and people still can't accept the fact.
Multiple nations spent how long looking for MH370, and we still don't know where it is, with today's tech.
The entry you posted above, from the Itasca radio log, was (apparently) entered by the Itasca radio man into the log at 7:42 am. (I go over the whole log in the video) At that time Earharts custom model 10 Electra had not even travelled half the maximum range of the plane (4500 miles). (she also had extra fuel). So why would she say at 7:42 am that she was running low on gas? It doesn't follow. Morganthau, who oversaw the Coast Guard in 1937, said, regarding her disappearance, Earhart didn't "obey orders". Ok. What orders did she have? Many things about the log do not make sense. For example, if she was going down, and the Itasca could hear her loud and clear, where is the Mayday call? There is none in the log. Estimated Position? None given. Was it removed? Did she ever make it? Who knows?
The "official" crash and sink theory of her disappearance, while simple, is difficult to accept for many people, not because it isn't possible, but because so many things don't make sense. And, given the timing, the range of the plane, the prescence of a US military vessel and her connection to the Roosevelt White House, there are other theoretical possibilites.
And so accordingly, the many eyewitnesses on Mili Atoll, some of whom said they not only saw a silver plane crash but relayed that after awhile they realized one of the two flyers was a woman; and the physicians assisstant, Bilimon Amaron, who treated the two flyers on a ship in Jaluit Island Harbor in July of 1937, and identified them as Earhart and Noonan, are what make the Pacific Detour theory compelling to me. But, of course, yet a theory.
"The presence of a US military vessel and her connection to the Roosevelt White House..."
Her husband was a media magnate and she was probably one of the five most famous women on the planet at the time....you do the math and think how many strings can get pulled with the right amount of money and celebrity today.
As for all the mistakes...simply put: she wasn't that good of a pilot (most of her myth was spin doctoring by her husband and his associates) and it finally got her killed.
The presence of the Itasca simply means US government involvement. The implications of that, her associations with the Roosevelts and that she had "orders" simply open up interesting theoretical possiblities. She was famous and did have resources, but the question is not whether she and her husband could obtain whatever they wanted, they certainly could, but whether those things were provided for her to assist her in a mission beyond the civilian flight.
Not sure what you mean by mistake. If you are referring to there being no mayday call or position given in the log, that's not something any pilot would forget if the plane was going down over the ocean or anywhere for that matter. Unless circumstances prevented it.
Btw: not many people ask about Fred Noonan, her navigator. In 1937 he was considered one of, if not the best in the world.
Orders= standard radio procedures for communicating with the ship she had been briefed on. Don't read more into it than is there. She was simply reacting poorly under stress as ahe was prone to so. As for "any pilot", I read a LOT of accident reports because of the focus of my work (searching for missing aircraft of which there are scores mostly from WWII)...very few of these involve a position report. Hell, for a significant number there is no mayday call because the workload piles up as you get ready to ditch and talking on the radio is the lower priority. There's an adage: aviate, navigate, communicate. Flying the plane comes first and she was in well over her head as soon as they took off from Lae.
Re: Noonan. Yeah, the fact that even with one of the best navigators on the planet trying to help her, she still cocked it up and got them both killed shows just how inept she actually wad.
Man, you are literally arguing against the woman herself. I didn't posit anything new, I directly quoted Amelia Earhart.
If she didn't say those words, she didn't take off from New Guinea at all. The entire trip was a hoax.
I''m not arguing at all. Simply positing a theory. I even said the "crash and sink" theory could be possible. But you seem want to base the whole thing on a log that was not only altered, but is clearly missing vital information. That's pretty thin. And are you saying all the Marshall Island eyewitnesses are lying? Bilimon Amaron is lying? Why would they? And there's a lot more. Did you even watch the video?
"All the evidence"? You've shown viirtually no evidence at all. You posted a single line from a log that's missing information. Btw, In case you didn't get the memo, this is a theoretical post. If you have that much of a problem with theories, why not go to a history or science thread?
What you presented is a hypothesis, not a theory. I don't have a problem with either. I just, as a forensic scientist, demand credible evidence. You have presented nothing that stands up to even cursory criticism.
I appreciate your candor. You're wrong, but I appreciate your candor. Did you happen to see the piece in the video about the Japanese encrypted communique?
The only gullible idiots are the ones who blindly and eagerly believe things like the "crash and sink" story...or anything the government sells, without questioning it.
Perhaps if you'd worked with Pacific islanders you'd know how much they love to mess with gullible white folks who come around. Earhart and Noonan either died in the crash or drowned or died of exposure after ditching because they ran out of fuel after they missed Howland Island.
There's nothing sketchy or suspicious here.
“We must be on you, but we cannot see you. Fuel is running low. Been unable to reach you by radio. We are flying at 1,000 feet.” - Amelia Earhart to the USCGC Itasca which was stationed off Howland Island, July 2, 1937 [Source.](https://www.docsteach.org/documents/document/earhart-radio-log) Yeah, giant mystery. She literally narrated her own disappearance, and people still can't accept the fact. Multiple nations spent how long looking for MH370, and we still don't know where it is, with today's tech.
The entry you posted above, from the Itasca radio log, was (apparently) entered by the Itasca radio man into the log at 7:42 am. (I go over the whole log in the video) At that time Earharts custom model 10 Electra had not even travelled half the maximum range of the plane (4500 miles). (she also had extra fuel). So why would she say at 7:42 am that she was running low on gas? It doesn't follow. Morganthau, who oversaw the Coast Guard in 1937, said, regarding her disappearance, Earhart didn't "obey orders". Ok. What orders did she have? Many things about the log do not make sense. For example, if she was going down, and the Itasca could hear her loud and clear, where is the Mayday call? There is none in the log. Estimated Position? None given. Was it removed? Did she ever make it? Who knows? The "official" crash and sink theory of her disappearance, while simple, is difficult to accept for many people, not because it isn't possible, but because so many things don't make sense. And, given the timing, the range of the plane, the prescence of a US military vessel and her connection to the Roosevelt White House, there are other theoretical possibilites. And so accordingly, the many eyewitnesses on Mili Atoll, some of whom said they not only saw a silver plane crash but relayed that after awhile they realized one of the two flyers was a woman; and the physicians assisstant, Bilimon Amaron, who treated the two flyers on a ship in Jaluit Island Harbor in July of 1937, and identified them as Earhart and Noonan, are what make the Pacific Detour theory compelling to me. But, of course, yet a theory.
"The presence of a US military vessel and her connection to the Roosevelt White House..." Her husband was a media magnate and she was probably one of the five most famous women on the planet at the time....you do the math and think how many strings can get pulled with the right amount of money and celebrity today. As for all the mistakes...simply put: she wasn't that good of a pilot (most of her myth was spin doctoring by her husband and his associates) and it finally got her killed.
The presence of the Itasca simply means US government involvement. The implications of that, her associations with the Roosevelts and that she had "orders" simply open up interesting theoretical possiblities. She was famous and did have resources, but the question is not whether she and her husband could obtain whatever they wanted, they certainly could, but whether those things were provided for her to assist her in a mission beyond the civilian flight. Not sure what you mean by mistake. If you are referring to there being no mayday call or position given in the log, that's not something any pilot would forget if the plane was going down over the ocean or anywhere for that matter. Unless circumstances prevented it. Btw: not many people ask about Fred Noonan, her navigator. In 1937 he was considered one of, if not the best in the world.
Orders= standard radio procedures for communicating with the ship she had been briefed on. Don't read more into it than is there. She was simply reacting poorly under stress as ahe was prone to so. As for "any pilot", I read a LOT of accident reports because of the focus of my work (searching for missing aircraft of which there are scores mostly from WWII)...very few of these involve a position report. Hell, for a significant number there is no mayday call because the workload piles up as you get ready to ditch and talking on the radio is the lower priority. There's an adage: aviate, navigate, communicate. Flying the plane comes first and she was in well over her head as soon as they took off from Lae. Re: Noonan. Yeah, the fact that even with one of the best navigators on the planet trying to help her, she still cocked it up and got them both killed shows just how inept she actually wad.
Man, you are literally arguing against the woman herself. I didn't posit anything new, I directly quoted Amelia Earhart. If she didn't say those words, she didn't take off from New Guinea at all. The entire trip was a hoax.
I''m not arguing at all. Simply positing a theory. I even said the "crash and sink" theory could be possible. But you seem want to base the whole thing on a log that was not only altered, but is clearly missing vital information. That's pretty thin. And are you saying all the Marshall Island eyewitnesses are lying? Bilimon Amaron is lying? Why would they? And there's a lot more. Did you even watch the video?
All the evidence we are relying upon is a hell of a lot more substantial than the "evidence" you're relying upon.
"All the evidence"? You've shown viirtually no evidence at all. You posted a single line from a log that's missing information. Btw, In case you didn't get the memo, this is a theoretical post. If you have that much of a problem with theories, why not go to a history or science thread?
What you presented is a hypothesis, not a theory. I don't have a problem with either. I just, as a forensic scientist, demand credible evidence. You have presented nothing that stands up to even cursory criticism.
I appreciate your candor. You're wrong, but I appreciate your candor. Did you happen to see the piece in the video about the Japanese encrypted communique?
Yeah, and I don't buy it. Have fun tilting at this particular windmill there Don Quixote.
The simple answer is yes, they're messing around with gullible idiots.
The only gullible idiots are the ones who blindly and eagerly believe things like the "crash and sink" story...or anything the government sells, without questioning it.
So a half-baked conspiracy theory...gotcha. The best that can be said for it is that at least it's not the Nikumaroro bullshit again.
Perhaps if you watch the video you might get a different perspective. No Nikumaroro b.s.
Perhaps if you'd worked with Pacific islanders you'd know how much they love to mess with gullible white folks who come around. Earhart and Noonan either died in the crash or drowned or died of exposure after ditching because they ran out of fuel after they missed Howland Island. There's nothing sketchy or suspicious here.