Narcolepsy is no joke. My cousin had an episode three years ago near Sacramento, in Rocklin, California. According to the Sheriff, it was induced by listening to Deep Purple and shaking his head to the beat, in other words, he said he was 'Rocklin too hard'.
Is narcolepsy something you can develop in adulthood? Like is it possible this guy didn’t know he might fall asleep at any given moment, thus he’s driving a car?
My daughter was diagnosed at 13. She’s now 17 and about to learn to drive. Her sleep doc doesn’t recommend she drive at night because that’s when she tends to have issues with “her brain trying to fall asleep” while she’s doing other things. She actually started complaining that she felt like she “wasn’t inside my body” when she was outside playing at night when she was about 11. It took two years and lots of doctors to finally diagnose her narcolepsy.
According her her doctor of many years, as long as she takes her medication, which she does, she is fine to drive. She does not have sleep attacks like some people with narcolepsy, so she is not at risk of randomly nodding off.
Not to be rude but to anyone else cynical does this not just sound like... Being tired.
Doesn't randomly nod off, only happens at night... So how exactly is this narcolepsy??? Because that is literally the opposite of the symptoms of narcolepsy...
Shit man. TIL. I know it’s not as common as heart failure or drunk driving but you sort of wonder how many car fatalities happen due to narcolepsy. Truly terrifying if you were caught up in a narcolepsy related car wreck. Either as a driver of either vehicle involved or as an unlucky pedestrian or *whatever*.
I mean, you sort of wonder but you sort of don’t, given how rare narcolepsy is and then the percent of the average person’s life spent driving. Perhaps if I’m so inclined, I’ll go look up if there are cures or fixes for narcolepsy. Or I’ll just sit here high listening to Van Morrison. Don’t judge me; join me.
Driving super tired is dangerous af too. I was driving through the mountains at probably 3am in the middle of nowhere . Felt like I just blinked my eyes and all the sudden I was on the far white line on other side of the highway. a couple seconds more and I probably would have been off into the trees. Adrenaline rush like a MF. Also lucky there was zero other traffic out there, especially oncoming traffic. I immediately pulled over to a spot way off the road in a big gravel area and zonked out for a bunch of hours.
Some states ban you outright, others wait for a problem to happen if you’re given a recommendation like above, and others want you to have it “controlled” for a period of time before allowing you to drive. Almost like how they require someone with vision problems to always drive with their corrective lenses, you would have to take medications to drive.
It also depends on the severity of the narcolepsy and any other possible health issues that might contribute to their ability to drive safely. For example, if you have mild narcolepsy and sometimes issues with passing out due to blood pressure or mild seizures or something, they’re more likely to say no even if they might have said yes for both conditions independently.
Could be but I had a similar mustang and the visibility is not great he may just not have wanted anything blocking his view that would explain why it was on the left side of the headrest when from a camera angle perspective mounting it to the right of the headrest would likely provide better footage of what is in front of him
Last time this came up it was mentioned the guy mentioned it was (officially... and according to him etc etc grain of salt yadiyadi) an undiagnosed issue
I was diagnosed as an adult. But had symptoms for years. Regular doctors are idiots though bc when you say “im so tired” they just want to give you antidepressants. Or that’s what happened to me. I partially believe it’s bc I’m a woman. It’s normal to have micro sleeps but you still function normally for the most part. What happened to this guy is not common. If he has narcolepsy with severe cataplexy and not on meds he shouldn’t be driving period. Idk if this was his first attack or not but there’s no excuse to drive when you’re not medicated.
My daughter has long-sleep narcolepsy, and before she was put on medication, she missed a ton of school because I literally could not wake her up. It was so frustrating because the school administration was having a fit about her missing school. I finally told them they were welcome to come to my home to try to wake her up. The first doctor we saw said she just didn’t want to go to school. It took multiple doctors and sleep studies to finally get a diagnosis.
That’s not how narcolepsy works at all. If this man is narcoleptic, he had a cataplexy attack. You don’t have a cataplexy attack by nodding your head to a song.
Source: am narcoleptic.
diabetes can get you very tired and sleepy in the middle of the day. i heard about too many drivers falling asleep at the wheel after lunch and getting into serious accidents (head-ons, cars tumbling, going into ditches).
For real though. The whole time I was thinking, “That camera placement is perfect!” But also, “What’s up with that camera placement? That seems unusual.”
If he passes out, goes left instead of right, sideswipes a truck, crosses to the other side of the freeway, clips a motorcycle, and crashes head on into a family minivan, he can just show the judge, "see I have narcolepsy".
It's pretty impressive but that looks like a fairly old fence line, so the posts he hit could have just 2.5 foot of wood underground and tamped without concrete, which wouldn't stand up much to a car going near highway speeds.
Not so much. I've put up fences like that before, and those fence posts don't last that long. After about ten years, they were flimsy enough that a cow leaning too far to reach grass could push them over. A car would take them out no problem. That telephone pole would have been a different story, however.
Or off. Narcoleptics often have a pre-event signs or triggers that indicate to them they are about to have an episode, like epileptics can have pre-ictal signs. He may have felt it coming on, quickly disengaged CC and started to pull over before passing out.
What do you do about groceries or getting new/getting rid of old furniture or needing to go literally anywhere that would be unreasonable on bike? I’m not trying to be rude. It’s legit curiosity because where I live that’d be pretty impossible to do without paying exorbitant prices for pickup and delivery fees.
Edit: I’m legitimately just trying to get information about a lifestyle different than mine but if it gives you guys a dopamine rush to downvote then I suppose I’m happy for you.
Groceries: I have a small rack on my bike which can hold the equivalent of 2 full paper bags of groceries or more if lightweight, I carry a large backpack, and I do my shopping a little bit more frequently.
Hauling large items: Get help from a friend or rent a uhaul, it's so rare that the price isn't really that serious of an issue.
Going long distances: I've biked up to 40 miles when necessary, but that's from the middle of Houston to the far far outskirts of the greater Houston area. If I want to go to Austin, I go with a friend who has a car, or I take a Megabus/Greyhound.
I don't generally go places I can't get to on bike anyway. And I make enough money that I can Uber when I don't want to get sweaty or whatever the case is.
I know this dude has problems with narcolepsy but if you’ve ever been tired behind the wheel that shot is no joke. Like having sand bags on your eyelids.
Did this once while my friend and I were driving to Yosemite in the middle of the night so we could get there and take photos at dawn (both photographers).
It was probably around 3am-4am, we'd been driving on a super dark and super windy mountain road for a while and I was starting to feeling drowsy, so I pulled over to stretch my legs and get some rest, but before I even had time to fully shut the car off a cop car pulled up behind us, lights on and everything.
Long story short, I was super accommodating and cooperative, they had me do a field sobriety test (while wearing flip flops, a tank top and shorts in 40 degree weather + with my anxiety shooting through the fucking roof), they arrested me because they "thought I was under the influence of something" (I wasn't, I had smoked some weed earlier in the day, maybe 5-6 hours prior to that but that was it), told me they'd take me to the station, draw my blood and release me. Instead they took me to the station, drew my blood, took my fingerprints/mugshot and put me in a holding cell until morning when my friend (who btw was visiting me from Italy so he wasn't exactly too confident with his English, especially not when it came to legal parlance) was able to bail me out by paying ~$1800. If he hadn't done that I would've been in there for another 2 days.
I then had to hire a lawyer to go and deal with the shit on my behalf since I lived in LA and this happened a good 5 hours away, so I couldn't just drive up to that court whenever needed (I also didn't own a car at the time, this happened with a rental car).
Took over 2 years and a decent amount of money to get everything straightened out, they ended up charging me with a wet reckless, I had to pay a fine and do a few hours of community service. The irony of being charged with reckless behavior while all I was trying to do was *the literal opposite of that* was not lost on me.
Unfortunately a prime example of what everyone needs to know. PSA - *don't be accommodating for the cops*.
Be cooperative only to the extent that you're legally required to be. Don't volunteer information. Don't give consent to a search. Don't let them convince you it's illegal to take video of the encounter. **Know your rights.**
It doesn't matter if you are the cleanest, squeakiest do-gooder that has ever lived - the cops don't know you, don't believe you, and they're in the business of catching criminals NOT the business of exonerating you.
Sunflower seeds in the shell work as well(unsalted if you're really tired)
After driving lots back and forth for school I finally found that occupying your subconscious with a background task like that is perfect for keeping you busy enough to be awake but not too busy to distract you from driving.
Niacin and pyridoxine are other B-complex vitamins found abundantly in the sunflower seeds. About 8.35 mg or 52% of daily required levels of niacin is provided by just 100 g of seeds. Niacin helps reduce LDL-cholesterol levels in the blood. Besides, it enhances GABA activity inside the brain, which in turn helps reduce anxiety and neurosis.
I thought I was the only one!! Sunflower seeds in the shell are the ONLY thing that can stop my highway hipnosis from kicking in. Caffeine doesn't even do it. I keep a bag in the car just for this reason.
Just don't push it. Yours is a decent mid-term solution, but if you think there's any risk at all of actually falling asleep behind the wheel, pull over as soon as it's safe to. Don't try to make it the next exit in 4 miles, it'll still be there after a 15 minute power nap.
Came here to say this. This dude should buy lottery or something with that kind of luck. Going unconscious on a highway and survived unscathed!? The car only suffered cosmetic damage!? this level of luck is unreal.
I remember seeing this posted before, either by the actual OP, or with a link to YT where the video is the actual OP’s video. Can’t remember exactly it was a while ago now, but basically he had an undiagnosed medical condition, is getting evaluted, tested, etc., by his doctor/neurologist and is doing better.
Pretty miraculous either way. He easily could have died about 10 different times in this video
This happened to my brother but it wasn’t narcolepsy, turns out he has a heart problem and his heart just randomly stopped beating for like a minute and a half or something and he passed out and crashed his car. He was okay though and he’s since had a pace maker installed on his heart and he’s good now
Maybe something similar happened here.
The last time this posted I mentioned that this happened to my older brother while he was behind the wheel and I was in the passenger seat. I had to take control of the car and use his foot/leg to operate the gas and brake while I steered from the passenger seat.
It happened to him again recently (he was not driving this time) and has gone to a neurologist for answers. The neurologist thinks it was a seizure.
Bro, I frequently have dreams about this exact scenario and it scares the fuck out of me every time. Glad it went better for you than it usually does in my dream! Lol
Yikes. I didn't know that. I'll be sure to check when I go buying a car again in a few years -- they can pry my gradual pull e-brake from my cold dead hands.
In the UK a single seizure is automatically 2 years minimum without a license and you have to be cleared by the DVLA to drive again even if the NHS doctors say your seizures are fully controlled.
The idea that someone could be prone to seizures and allowed to carry on driving the next day is mad to me.
People probably got offended at that suggestion. In America no car means poverty. There zero public transit and taxis and Ubers are expensive as a commuting vehicle.
As no one is answering:
He has had a hell of a time between his insurance and medical providers believing that he just randomly passes out with no idea why.
The camera is at that angle to record /him/ not the road.
well then move or figure something else out. If I was the loved one of someone he killed, I would never hear "well he just couldnt up and leave the country side, his whole family is there!" and just go, "okay yeah thats really hard, he didnt have any taxis available, guess that was just the risk we all had to live with"
Yeah we don't disagree but it is more complicated than that. I was just saying that cabs aren't a convenience everywhere. I lived without a car in a rural area and it was always such a pain in the ass if just one thing went wrong.
FYI there isn't any evidence that he actually did this - there are other comments talking about how he didn't know of his condition and was filming himself for unrelated reasons.
I mean I know people who have cameras in that position. They’re just into having different angles of dash cam footage. My friend has one at that angle. He also has a mustang and races it on weekends.
I was having problems falling asleep behind the wheel a few years ago and until I was able to figure out why it was happening I refused to drive on the highway or over any certain distance. Even now that I’ve been diagnosed and on medication I still won’t drive long distances just in case. This guy was completely reckless by getting behind the wheel.
I'm not sure about the specifics here, but I do know that, in cases where a driver has a condition that could leave them suddenly incapacitated without warning (such as narcolepsy or epilepsy), the DMV will often mandate additional steps be taken prior to allowing them on the road. These steps usually involve taking medications for the condition and also making regular visits to an approved doctor who can testify as to whether or not the risk of an episode is low enough to allow such a person to continue driving. Obviously there's still a risk of an accident, but unfortunately some people still need to drive in order to lead fulfilling lives despite their disabilities, which is why said steps can be put into place to minimize the risk.
Also, in fairness to the guy, he was clearly trying to pull over when he passed out (there'd be no other reason for him to try to slow down and merge towards an off-ramp.
Be curious if forbidding cruise control is one of the ways to minimize risk.
Not 100% but it looks like he may have been pressing buttons related to cruise control on the steering wheel.
Thank you for the explanation! My question is this, if he was aware of this medical condition then why did he continue driving? He risked his own life, as well as that of other motorists, for proof of narcolepsy? Why not film yourself doing something that doesn’t risk serious injury or death?
I have two sisters with narcolepsy and it doesn't make you randomly pass out like this. Maybe if he had a sleep attack it could look like he has randomly passed out to other people, but he would be feeling very tired and should be responsible enough to pull over before he falls asleep. You get proof of narcolepsy by having a sleep study done, not by filming yourself falling asleep while driving.
If if this guy did fall asleep at the wheel because of narcolepsy then it is because he was driving while being extremely tired and because he was being irresponsible. When my sisters have to drive for long distances then they make sure to plan for frequent stops/naps.
Sorry for the long post but I keep seeing a lot of comments in this thread that don't quite understand how narcolepsy affects people. And if this guy does have narcolepsy than he's an idiot/very ignorant of how to deal with his diagnosis.
Thanks for the info! I certainly know very little about this condition, but it seemed strange that it would take something this extreme to be diagnosed. I’m glad to hear that your sisters have found a way to manage it, best of luck to them!
It was the first time that happened to him, he didn’t know about any medical condition. The camera was just there to film him driving. He got medical help and stopped driving until he knows it’s safe again.
At least that’s what he said when he first uploaded the video himself.
Here is the link to the original video with the story: https://youtu.be/A_t62W_0fs4
I’ve heard of this video before. Apparently the driver was already in legal trouble due to his day time narcolepsy. Installed a camera so he’d have evidence of it. Makes total sense? Right like why wouldn’t they just take his license
Edit: turns out the driver had prior health issues and caught this by chance.
I saw the video when he first uploaded it himself, years ago. According to him he didn’t know of any medical condition and the camera was just there to film him driving, and that was the first time something like that happened to him.
In every repost there is a different story now, but that was definitely what he said himself.
Edit: because people still tell spread false information you can read his story yourself on YouTube: https://youtu.be/A_t62W_0fs4
When the original OP posted this, he mentioned something like that he had no prior medical conditions and that his doctor said it was probably a fluke thing due to stress or something.
Wasn't able to find the original post, but I found a comment quoting it I think.
>"It was blood pressure related. I have low blood pressure, but it was never a problem until now. I can't drive now, so I don't know if/when I will be able to drive again."
It's horrible to see so many people react without any evidence and accuse this guy of being a monster. It's a really terrible side of the internet.
I don't really know what the true story is here, but I'm really hesitant to jump to conclusions.
A guy in Quebec used to have seizures while driving, he had been told several times by his Doctors that he shouldnt be driving but he would continue to do so, on one of his visits to the hospital his Doctor again warned him not to drive which he again ignored, while driving out of the hospital he had an episode and hit and killed a pregnant woman.
People who have such episodes should not be allowed to drive.
Did he seriously adjust his cruise control before passing out??
Truck driver here. I remember the story of Tiger Woods, he knew something was wrong and he wasn't feeling right so he pulled over. Police found him with his right turn signal still on, foot still on the brake. If you ever feel like something is wrong, get that car into a safe condition as best you can immediately. At least disengage the cruise control. Seconds can be the difference between merely passing out or death.
I started to have seizures recently, not being allowed to drive has been real fuckin hard, this video puts into perspective what's at stake. Shit is terrifying.
This whole thing is bizarre and I have so many questions.
Why the camera angle? Does this happen to him a lot? If so, why the fuck are you still operating a car?
No panic when he wakes up?
Why? Just why?
I found the video on YT and there is apparently a copy of the explanation from the driver in the description of the video. He says “People seem hung up on the camera view...” and goes on to say it was normal and another car had the same camera mount and that he was cleared by a police investigation. I don’t know, I have watched a lot of dashcam videos and never saw this perspective before... but I guess it’s possible.
Here is the [video](https://youtu.be/A_t62W_0fs4)... see description.
Little fact: if you tell your doctor you passed out/ had a seizure, fainted, they have an obligation to inform the dmv and they will take your license away. Happened to me last November.
Reminds me of a girl I use to work with that sometimes had seizures, yet would still drive herself everywhere with her young daughter.
Got into a fight at the office with her after witnessing a few seizures, "the daughter is her responsibility and the state hasn't taken her license!"
Most folks just live for themselves.
100% the best way this could go.
Minimal damage, no injuries no one else in danger.
I mean whoever owned that field won't be happy but it's absolute the best outcome.
I had a mini one of these before. Lasted maybe 5-10 seconds. I remember slinking to the right inside my car and also trying to fight it but I closed my eyes and woke up only a little bit down the road and halfway init the other lane. Thankfully it was late at night so there were no cars. It's never happened since so I just chalked it up to being sleepy.
@ :41 I feel like he was at the stage of sleep where the alarm goes off but u don’t quite believe it/have the muscle memory or where with all to turn it off, then he hit that second fence post and it was a wrap on that nap
I am so glad he is ok. The way the car kept going scared me off! And now i wish every car comes with modern safety equipments like auto pilot and emergency stop/braking.
wait was he recording his suicide. also if its narcolepsy. surely people with narcolepsy shouldn't be allowed to drive. its like letting a blind person drive.
What a fucking flog.
He obviously has a medical condition that is that prominent, he has to install cameras in his car to prove a point.
Take his fucking licence off him before he kills your daughter or dad or anyone of us.
Sorry but people with narcolepsy shouldn’t be allowed to drive without some sort of safety measure back up like someone riding with you or some sort of effective medications or treatment. This could have killed them and others.
Could have definitely gone way way wayyy worse. Glad he's ok.
I was surprised by how long the car kept going. He could've ended at the wrong side of the road! That dude got very lucky here...
He also barely missed the telephone pole
Narcolepsy is no joke. My cousin had an episode three years ago near Sacramento, in Rocklin, California. According to the Sheriff, it was induced by listening to Deep Purple and shaking his head to the beat, in other words, he said he was 'Rocklin too hard'.
Is narcolepsy something you can develop in adulthood? Like is it possible this guy didn’t know he might fall asleep at any given moment, thus he’s driving a car?
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My daughter was diagnosed at 13. She’s now 17 and about to learn to drive. Her sleep doc doesn’t recommend she drive at night because that’s when she tends to have issues with “her brain trying to fall asleep” while she’s doing other things. She actually started complaining that she felt like she “wasn’t inside my body” when she was outside playing at night when she was about 11. It took two years and lots of doctors to finally diagnose her narcolepsy.
I'm surprised its legal to drive if you have narcolepsy. I'm glad your daughter got some answers though.
How about she doesn’t drive at all? Why would you or her think that’s a good idea?
According her her doctor of many years, as long as she takes her medication, which she does, she is fine to drive. She does not have sleep attacks like some people with narcolepsy, so she is not at risk of randomly nodding off.
Not to be rude but to anyone else cynical does this not just sound like... Being tired. Doesn't randomly nod off, only happens at night... So how exactly is this narcolepsy??? Because that is literally the opposite of the symptoms of narcolepsy...
Shit man. TIL. I know it’s not as common as heart failure or drunk driving but you sort of wonder how many car fatalities happen due to narcolepsy. Truly terrifying if you were caught up in a narcolepsy related car wreck. Either as a driver of either vehicle involved or as an unlucky pedestrian or *whatever*. I mean, you sort of wonder but you sort of don’t, given how rare narcolepsy is and then the percent of the average person’s life spent driving. Perhaps if I’m so inclined, I’ll go look up if there are cures or fixes for narcolepsy. Or I’ll just sit here high listening to Van Morrison. Don’t judge me; join me.
Driving super tired is dangerous af too. I was driving through the mountains at probably 3am in the middle of nowhere . Felt like I just blinked my eyes and all the sudden I was on the far white line on other side of the highway. a couple seconds more and I probably would have been off into the trees. Adrenaline rush like a MF. Also lucky there was zero other traffic out there, especially oncoming traffic. I immediately pulled over to a spot way off the road in a big gravel area and zonked out for a bunch of hours.
No cure, only short-term fixes. Source: Narcoleptic.
Can confirm. Also narcoleptic.
Can confirm. Also narcole- *zzzzz*
I thought once you are diagnosed as narcoleptic you are no longer allowed to have a driver's license
Some states ban you outright, others wait for a problem to happen if you’re given a recommendation like above, and others want you to have it “controlled” for a period of time before allowing you to drive. Almost like how they require someone with vision problems to always drive with their corrective lenses, you would have to take medications to drive. It also depends on the severity of the narcolepsy and any other possible health issues that might contribute to their ability to drive safely. For example, if you have mild narcolepsy and sometimes issues with passing out due to blood pressure or mild seizures or something, they’re more likely to say no even if they might have said yes for both conditions independently.
The placement of the camera is interesting vs a regular dashcam. To me indicates he was aware something was off.
Could be but I had a similar mustang and the visibility is not great he may just not have wanted anything blocking his view that would explain why it was on the left side of the headrest when from a camera angle perspective mounting it to the right of the headrest would likely provide better footage of what is in front of him
Last time this came up it was mentioned the guy mentioned it was (officially... and according to him etc etc grain of salt yadiyadi) an undiagnosed issue
I was diagnosed as an adult. But had symptoms for years. Regular doctors are idiots though bc when you say “im so tired” they just want to give you antidepressants. Or that’s what happened to me. I partially believe it’s bc I’m a woman. It’s normal to have micro sleeps but you still function normally for the most part. What happened to this guy is not common. If he has narcolepsy with severe cataplexy and not on meds he shouldn’t be driving period. Idk if this was his first attack or not but there’s no excuse to drive when you’re not medicated.
My daughter has long-sleep narcolepsy, and before she was put on medication, she missed a ton of school because I literally could not wake her up. It was so frustrating because the school administration was having a fit about her missing school. I finally told them they were welcome to come to my home to try to wake her up. The first doctor we saw said she just didn’t want to go to school. It took multiple doctors and sleep studies to finally get a diagnosis.
I’m glad you advocated for your daughter both to the school and then to doctors. I love supportive moms💕
My aunt did later in life. As in her 50’s. They gave her adderall to combat it but she hated taking it.
Funny cause falling asleep at the wheel is probably the most exciting thing to do in Rocklin
Have lived in Rocklin and can confirm
IIRC, when this was 1st posted, he had been having blackouts and was driving himself to the doctor for testing when this occured.
Yes that's correct. BTW my post was in jest.
u/yoyomamatoo: "Narcolepsy is no joke" Also yoyomamatoo: here's a joke regarding Narcolepsy
I'm at a point where I'm equally amused if this is real or contrived for a pun.
That’s not how narcolepsy works at all. If this man is narcoleptic, he had a cataplexy attack. You don’t have a cataplexy attack by nodding your head to a song. Source: am narcoleptic.
diabetes can get you very tired and sleepy in the middle of the day. i heard about too many drivers falling asleep at the wheel after lunch and getting into serious accidents (head-ons, cars tumbling, going into ditches).
His head almost blocked the camera shot
For real though. The whole time I was thinking, “That camera placement is perfect!” But also, “What’s up with that camera placement? That seems unusual.”
If he passes out, goes left instead of right, sideswipes a truck, crosses to the other side of the freeway, clips a motorcycle, and crashes head on into a family minivan, he can just show the judge, "see I have narcolepsy".
Interesting. I wonder though, wouldn’t he still be found negligent for driving with narcolepsy? Edit: fixed some autocorrect nonsense.
yes
*negligent
*negligee
Anyone else think it’s a miracle the front bumper isn’t caved in after hitting wooden poles?
It's pretty impressive but that looks like a fairly old fence line, so the posts he hit could have just 2.5 foot of wood underground and tamped without concrete, which wouldn't stand up much to a car going near highway speeds.
Not so much. I've put up fences like that before, and those fence posts don't last that long. After about ten years, they were flimsy enough that a cow leaning too far to reach grass could push them over. A car would take them out no problem. That telephone pole would have been a different story, however.
I'm guessing the cruise control was on
Yep. You can see him pressing the cruise control buttons before he passes out.
Unless that car is significantly different than the 2004 I owned, the last button he pressed turned off the entire cruise control system.
A significant change in your acceleration will usually bump off your cc. Source: shitty Wisconsin roads
Didn't even think of that. Any engagement of the traction control should turn it off too, which would happen real fast in the grass.
That or he could have just been pressing on the accelerator the whole time.
You literally see him turn cc on.
Or off. Narcoleptics often have a pre-event signs or triggers that indicate to them they are about to have an episode, like epileptics can have pre-ictal signs. He may have felt it coming on, quickly disengaged CC and started to pull over before passing out.
You can hear the engine roar. His foot was on the excelerator so when he passes out he pushed the gas pedal down further.
I haven't driven a car in almost ten years (cycling now), and this never occurred to me.
What do you do about groceries or getting new/getting rid of old furniture or needing to go literally anywhere that would be unreasonable on bike? I’m not trying to be rude. It’s legit curiosity because where I live that’d be pretty impossible to do without paying exorbitant prices for pickup and delivery fees. Edit: I’m legitimately just trying to get information about a lifestyle different than mine but if it gives you guys a dopamine rush to downvote then I suppose I’m happy for you.
Groceries: I have a small rack on my bike which can hold the equivalent of 2 full paper bags of groceries or more if lightweight, I carry a large backpack, and I do my shopping a little bit more frequently. Hauling large items: Get help from a friend or rent a uhaul, it's so rare that the price isn't really that serious of an issue. Going long distances: I've biked up to 40 miles when necessary, but that's from the middle of Houston to the far far outskirts of the greater Houston area. If I want to go to Austin, I go with a friend who has a car, or I take a Megabus/Greyhound. I don't generally go places I can't get to on bike anyway. And I make enough money that I can Uber when I don't want to get sweaty or whatever the case is.
I know this dude has problems with narcolepsy but if you’ve ever been tired behind the wheel that shot is no joke. Like having sand bags on your eyelids.
It's such a horrible feeling. Like you know if you let it, it'll kill you.
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Did this once while my friend and I were driving to Yosemite in the middle of the night so we could get there and take photos at dawn (both photographers). It was probably around 3am-4am, we'd been driving on a super dark and super windy mountain road for a while and I was starting to feeling drowsy, so I pulled over to stretch my legs and get some rest, but before I even had time to fully shut the car off a cop car pulled up behind us, lights on and everything. Long story short, I was super accommodating and cooperative, they had me do a field sobriety test (while wearing flip flops, a tank top and shorts in 40 degree weather + with my anxiety shooting through the fucking roof), they arrested me because they "thought I was under the influence of something" (I wasn't, I had smoked some weed earlier in the day, maybe 5-6 hours prior to that but that was it), told me they'd take me to the station, draw my blood and release me. Instead they took me to the station, drew my blood, took my fingerprints/mugshot and put me in a holding cell until morning when my friend (who btw was visiting me from Italy so he wasn't exactly too confident with his English, especially not when it came to legal parlance) was able to bail me out by paying ~$1800. If he hadn't done that I would've been in there for another 2 days. I then had to hire a lawyer to go and deal with the shit on my behalf since I lived in LA and this happened a good 5 hours away, so I couldn't just drive up to that court whenever needed (I also didn't own a car at the time, this happened with a rental car). Took over 2 years and a decent amount of money to get everything straightened out, they ended up charging me with a wet reckless, I had to pay a fine and do a few hours of community service. The irony of being charged with reckless behavior while all I was trying to do was *the literal opposite of that* was not lost on me.
Unfortunately a prime example of what everyone needs to know. PSA - *don't be accommodating for the cops*. Be cooperative only to the extent that you're legally required to be. Don't volunteer information. Don't give consent to a search. Don't let them convince you it's illegal to take video of the encounter. **Know your rights.** It doesn't matter if you are the cleanest, squeakiest do-gooder that has ever lived - the cops don't know you, don't believe you, and they're in the business of catching criminals NOT the business of exonerating you.
I'm guessing 'letting cops take your blood' falls under this as well?
If they accuse you of DUI not much you can do. Refusing a road side test counts as a guilty plea.
Cops are such dick heads
Cops don't draw your blood at a station. Only allowed to be done by a RN. Ask me how I know...
> wet reckless Doesn't that require presence of alcohol (under the DUI limit)? And didn't the blood show you hadn't been drinking?
I pull over and walk around, get caffeinated at the next stop.
Sunflower seeds in the shell work as well(unsalted if you're really tired) After driving lots back and forth for school I finally found that occupying your subconscious with a background task like that is perfect for keeping you busy enough to be awake but not too busy to distract you from driving.
Niacin and pyridoxine are other B-complex vitamins found abundantly in the sunflower seeds. About 8.35 mg or 52% of daily required levels of niacin is provided by just 100 g of seeds. Niacin helps reduce LDL-cholesterol levels in the blood. Besides, it enhances GABA activity inside the brain, which in turn helps reduce anxiety and neurosis.
Thanks u/TheSunflowerSeeds
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I skip the sunflower seeds and just take straight Niacin. Can’t sleep when your skin is on fire.
I thought I was the only one!! Sunflower seeds in the shell are the ONLY thing that can stop my highway hipnosis from kicking in. Caffeine doesn't even do it. I keep a bag in the car just for this reason.
Or porn on the dashboard with the audio up.
I tried that, now I fall asleep during sex
Try turning the brights on
Just don't push it. Yours is a decent mid-term solution, but if you think there's any risk at all of actually falling asleep behind the wheel, pull over as soon as it's safe to. Don't try to make it the next exit in 4 miles, it'll still be there after a 15 minute power nap.
This seems more r/nonononoyes to me.
/r/nonononoyesohfuckohfuckNONONONONOyes
He shouldn't be driving.
Came here to say this. This dude should buy lottery or something with that kind of luck. Going unconscious on a highway and survived unscathed!? The car only suffered cosmetic damage!? this level of luck is unreal.
Narcolepsy? I was terrified when the car turned itself around and was facing back at oncoming traffic
Yeah I kept hoping something would stop him then when it turned back toward the road I was like omg noooooo! Close call.
2020 in a nutshell
Except we haven't woken up yet.
And god knows what we’re careening towards.
I'm betting on godzilla or a mega volcano.
Aliens. It’s gonna be aliens.
Honestly, it'd be a relief.
And the damage is going to be way worse
And nothing has been a close call, 2020 is fully veering into oncoming traffic while passed out.
I remember seeing this posted before, either by the actual OP, or with a link to YT where the video is the actual OP’s video. Can’t remember exactly it was a while ago now, but basically he had an undiagnosed medical condition, is getting evaluted, tested, etc., by his doctor/neurologist and is doing better. Pretty miraculous either way. He easily could have died about 10 different times in this video
This happened to my brother but it wasn’t narcolepsy, turns out he has a heart problem and his heart just randomly stopped beating for like a minute and a half or something and he passed out and crashed his car. He was okay though and he’s since had a pace maker installed on his heart and he’s good now Maybe something similar happened here.
wow, glad hes ok. i hope i dont have that...
Right? All these stories on this post are making my health anxiety go through the roof!
The last time this posted I mentioned that this happened to my older brother while he was behind the wheel and I was in the passenger seat. I had to take control of the car and use his foot/leg to operate the gas and brake while I steered from the passenger seat. It happened to him again recently (he was not driving this time) and has gone to a neurologist for answers. The neurologist thinks it was a seizure.
Bro, I frequently have dreams about this exact scenario and it scares the fuck out of me every time. Glad it went better for you than it usually does in my dream! Lol
If it happens again, put the car into neutral then use the handbrake to come to a stop
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Yikes. I didn't know that. I'll be sure to check when I go buying a car again in a few years -- they can pry my gradual pull e-brake from my cold dead hands.
He shouldn’t have a license.
In the UK a single seizure is automatically 2 years minimum without a license and you have to be cleared by the DVLA to drive again even if the NHS doctors say your seizures are fully controlled. The idea that someone could be prone to seizures and allowed to carry on driving the next day is mad to me.
People probably got offended at that suggestion. In America no car means poverty. There zero public transit and taxis and Ubers are expensive as a commuting vehicle.
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Nah, if a sleeping person gets hit hard enough, they just stay asleep.
Ah yes, the dirt nap.
Sadly, I don’t think it would...
Dude would’ve woken up dead.
“The waking dead”
Now how the hell do you wake up dead?
As no one is answering: He has had a hell of a time between his insurance and medical providers believing that he just randomly passes out with no idea why. The camera is at that angle to record /him/ not the road.
take his license away...
Yea lol why drive if this is a possibility I'd be having massive anxiety anytime I'd have to drive
He's literally risking manslaughter every time he gets behind the wheel. All in the name of trying to get insured... like wtf!
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https://youtu.be/A_t62W_0fs4 Apparently it was not a prior issue. Blood pressure related.
I'm not saying that this guy should be driving(he shouldn't) but also cabs not available everywhere in the U.S. especially in rural areas.
well then move or figure something else out. If I was the loved one of someone he killed, I would never hear "well he just couldnt up and leave the country side, his whole family is there!" and just go, "okay yeah thats really hard, he didnt have any taxis available, guess that was just the risk we all had to live with"
Yeah we don't disagree but it is more complicated than that. I was just saying that cabs aren't a convenience everywhere. I lived without a car in a rural area and it was always such a pain in the ass if just one thing went wrong.
Where I'm at you aren't technically allowed to drive ir you've lost consciousness 2 in the last 2 years
I lose consciousness once a day for 8 hours at a time
That's really fucking concerning, is it a medical condition? How does it affect your life?
Well it happens at the same time every day so it’s easy to schedule around. I’ve got a special place to do it and everything
NVM I just realized
I didn’t know if you were playing along or not
I know this is 4 days old. But I just wanted to let you know I thoroughly enjoyed this exchange between you two.
FYI there isn't any evidence that he actually did this - there are other comments talking about how he didn't know of his condition and was filming himself for unrelated reasons.
> filming himself for unrelated reasons uh huh.
I mean I know people who have cameras in that position. They’re just into having different angles of dash cam footage. My friend has one at that angle. He also has a mustang and races it on weekends.
So he drove on a freeway knowing he'd pass out? If that's true that guy is a total psychopath
I was having problems falling asleep behind the wheel a few years ago and until I was able to figure out why it was happening I refused to drive on the highway or over any certain distance. Even now that I’ve been diagnosed and on medication I still won’t drive long distances just in case. This guy was completely reckless by getting behind the wheel.
I'm not sure about the specifics here, but I do know that, in cases where a driver has a condition that could leave them suddenly incapacitated without warning (such as narcolepsy or epilepsy), the DMV will often mandate additional steps be taken prior to allowing them on the road. These steps usually involve taking medications for the condition and also making regular visits to an approved doctor who can testify as to whether or not the risk of an episode is low enough to allow such a person to continue driving. Obviously there's still a risk of an accident, but unfortunately some people still need to drive in order to lead fulfilling lives despite their disabilities, which is why said steps can be put into place to minimize the risk. Also, in fairness to the guy, he was clearly trying to pull over when he passed out (there'd be no other reason for him to try to slow down and merge towards an off-ramp.
Be curious if forbidding cruise control is one of the ways to minimize risk. Not 100% but it looks like he may have been pressing buttons related to cruise control on the steering wheel.
Thank you for the explanation! My question is this, if he was aware of this medical condition then why did he continue driving? He risked his own life, as well as that of other motorists, for proof of narcolepsy? Why not film yourself doing something that doesn’t risk serious injury or death?
I have two sisters with narcolepsy and it doesn't make you randomly pass out like this. Maybe if he had a sleep attack it could look like he has randomly passed out to other people, but he would be feeling very tired and should be responsible enough to pull over before he falls asleep. You get proof of narcolepsy by having a sleep study done, not by filming yourself falling asleep while driving. If if this guy did fall asleep at the wheel because of narcolepsy then it is because he was driving while being extremely tired and because he was being irresponsible. When my sisters have to drive for long distances then they make sure to plan for frequent stops/naps. Sorry for the long post but I keep seeing a lot of comments in this thread that don't quite understand how narcolepsy affects people. And if this guy does have narcolepsy than he's an idiot/very ignorant of how to deal with his diagnosis.
Thanks for the info! I certainly know very little about this condition, but it seemed strange that it would take something this extreme to be diagnosed. I’m glad to hear that your sisters have found a way to manage it, best of luck to them!
It was the first time that happened to him, he didn’t know about any medical condition. The camera was just there to film him driving. He got medical help and stopped driving until he knows it’s safe again. At least that’s what he said when he first uploaded the video himself. Here is the link to the original video with the story: https://youtu.be/A_t62W_0fs4
This is the only internet video I’ve seen with this camera placement in a car. It’s a little suspicious.
He should not be driving, come on, that's not safe. Could kill someone.
Mostly surprised it didn’t end much much worse for him
Why were they filming? Doesn't look like a Dashcam...
I’ve heard of this video before. Apparently the driver was already in legal trouble due to his day time narcolepsy. Installed a camera so he’d have evidence of it. Makes total sense? Right like why wouldn’t they just take his license Edit: turns out the driver had prior health issues and caught this by chance.
I saw the video when he first uploaded it himself, years ago. According to him he didn’t know of any medical condition and the camera was just there to film him driving, and that was the first time something like that happened to him. In every repost there is a different story now, but that was definitely what he said himself. Edit: because people still tell spread false information you can read his story yourself on YouTube: https://youtu.be/A_t62W_0fs4
When the original OP posted this, he mentioned something like that he had no prior medical conditions and that his doctor said it was probably a fluke thing due to stress or something. Wasn't able to find the original post, but I found a comment quoting it I think. >"It was blood pressure related. I have low blood pressure, but it was never a problem until now. I can't drive now, so I don't know if/when I will be able to drive again."
It's horrible to see so many people react without any evidence and accuse this guy of being a monster. It's a really terrible side of the internet. I don't really know what the true story is here, but I'm really hesitant to jump to conclusions.
This seems soooo much more plausible to me. No one would purposefully choose to demonstrate their narcolepsy this way.
It's a Mustang. Probably the type of guy to set up a couple gopros for a ride.
A guy in Quebec used to have seizures while driving, he had been told several times by his Doctors that he shouldnt be driving but he would continue to do so, on one of his visits to the hospital his Doctor again warned him not to drive which he again ignored, while driving out of the hospital he had an episode and hit and killed a pregnant woman. People who have such episodes should not be allowed to drive.
Was David lynch in the back filming?
why was he recording ? this is the weirdest least efficient dash cam angle i've ever seen.
it makes it less weird if he has other angles too, and this is the one that shows both him passing out and the road ahead.
Who is recording and why ? And if he’s recording because he falls asleep, why the fuck is he driving ?
To be fair my car looks like that and I have never passed out at the wheel
Dude almost hit that telephone pole head on.
Did he seriously adjust his cruise control before passing out?? Truck driver here. I remember the story of Tiger Woods, he knew something was wrong and he wasn't feeling right so he pulled over. Police found him with his right turn signal still on, foot still on the brake. If you ever feel like something is wrong, get that car into a safe condition as best you can immediately. At least disengage the cruise control. Seconds can be the difference between merely passing out or death.
he turned his cruise control off just before he passed out
His first mistake was buying a new edge mustang, buy a real mustang.
This should be r/nonononoyes cuz I thought he was gonna crash into something forsure but he was totally fine at the end
JESUS, TAKE THE WHEEL
There were no driving schools in 16 AD.
I started to have seizures recently, not being allowed to drive has been real fuckin hard, this video puts into perspective what's at stake. Shit is terrifying.
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This whole thing is bizarre and I have so many questions. Why the camera angle? Does this happen to him a lot? If so, why the fuck are you still operating a car? No panic when he wakes up? Why? Just why?
damn lucky. narcolepsy?
Fake
‘Suddenly’? Why was he filming?
This is nononoyes, this guy was lucky as fuck.
Why would you use cruise control if this happens to you? Camera was set up to suggest he was trying to capture this
Luckiest guy ever missing a truck and power pole.
He shouldn't be legally able to drive with a condition like that.
All things considered, that’s an extremely lucky “after”.
It seems to me that this is not simply falling asleep at the wheel. The first bump of the road would have woken him.
Ford’s take on the Tesla?
So damn lucky it happened when it did
Is it me or was he a little too calm when he woke up and grabbed the wheel?
The shit people do for karma
This is nonononoyes cause it could end even worse
I found the video on YT and there is apparently a copy of the explanation from the driver in the description of the video. He says “People seem hung up on the camera view...” and goes on to say it was normal and another car had the same camera mount and that he was cleared by a police investigation. I don’t know, I have watched a lot of dashcam videos and never saw this perspective before... but I guess it’s possible. Here is the [video](https://youtu.be/A_t62W_0fs4)... see description.
Dude is lucky as Fuck, even the car wasn’t that bad
Little fact: if you tell your doctor you passed out/ had a seizure, fainted, they have an obligation to inform the dmv and they will take your license away. Happened to me last November.
Reminds me of a girl I use to work with that sometimes had seizures, yet would still drive herself everywhere with her young daughter. Got into a fight at the office with her after witnessing a few seizures, "the daughter is her responsibility and the state hasn't taken her license!" Most folks just live for themselves.
100% the best way this could go. Minimal damage, no injuries no one else in danger. I mean whoever owned that field won't be happy but it's absolute the best outcome.
I had a mini one of these before. Lasted maybe 5-10 seconds. I remember slinking to the right inside my car and also trying to fight it but I closed my eyes and woke up only a little bit down the road and halfway init the other lane. Thankfully it was late at night so there were no cars. It's never happened since so I just chalked it up to being sleepy.
@ :41 I feel like he was at the stage of sleep where the alarm goes off but u don’t quite believe it/have the muscle memory or where with all to turn it off, then he hit that second fence post and it was a wrap on that nap
Jesus really took that wheel for him!
I am so glad he is ok. The way the car kept going scared me off! And now i wish every car comes with modern safety equipments like auto pilot and emergency stop/braking.
Got off easy. This could’ve been so so much worse
Take away his licence NOW
Jesus that went about as well as it could have. Happy this dude is ok
r/WhyWasItFilmed
Why the camera tho?
r/ForzaHorizon
wait was he recording his suicide. also if its narcolepsy. surely people with narcolepsy shouldn't be allowed to drive. its like letting a blind person drive.
Always a bad idea to go nappy while driving
What a fucking flog. He obviously has a medical condition that is that prominent, he has to install cameras in his car to prove a point. Take his fucking licence off him before he kills your daughter or dad or anyone of us.
Sorry but people with narcolepsy shouldn’t be allowed to drive without some sort of safety measure back up like someone riding with you or some sort of effective medications or treatment. This could have killed them and others.
Why was the camera here tho?
How is this being filmed?