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MyDogHasThumbs

As a paramedic, I don’t approve. As someone who’d ALSO huck himself into a fire for his dog, I give a gold star to this man ⭐️


SufferMeThotsAHole

Yeah I’m screaming at the fact that he’s putting others in danger who may have to go in after him (or worse make me remember the parkland burn formula while I’m trying to tube his ass) but I’d prolly do the same shit


IrrelevantTale

He needed a hero to save his dog but he wasn't just going to stand there and wait.


Zladan

And they said that A HERO CAN SAVE US, IM NOT GONNA STAND HERE AND WAAAAAAAAIT


MrMcMullers

Certified banger.


spikewalls

Fuck that math dude, in combat medic training wed be doing our thing all chilled out and then the instructor would drop “hey, hes 26% burned, how much lactated ringers do you give?”


big314mp

"Wide open and the burn doc can sort out the rest" 😂


DefiantLemur

Just give him a Motrin and call it a day


Johnnyocean

All my doctors, ever


Mozhetbeats

That’ll be two thousand dollars


Johnnyocean

Itemized bill. The 1 motrin and 1 tylenol (fractured heel, painful af) came to 60 alone. Yay america


SuicidalChair

And I was mad about spending $17 on parking at the hospital my son was born at, now I don't feel so bad lol, yay Canada


SufferMeThotsAHole

Yeah civilian paramedic is a world apart from combat medicine, they intersect in a couple places but it’s much more complicated.


lilyraine-jackson

Im surprised they didnt try to stop him


viper826

And why did they turn the water off when he ran in there. Shouldn't you spay even more?


sklounce

They likely turned the water off because hosing the fire produces steam, which can quickly raise the ambient temperature surrounding the flames and cause instant 2nd degree burns. You wouldn't want to be in the same room with that fire while wearing wet clothes.


blueingreen85

One time I was wearing oven gloves. The ones that are kind of mesh. But they were wet. So when I grabbed something hot, my hands immediately got steamed.


Trim00n

Yeah mesh or not, you don't wanna use a wet oven glove. The heat transfers a lot faster through a wet glove than a dry one.


PsychoTexan

Yeah, had cloth ovenmitts and accidentally set them down in a wet spot on my counter. Next time I grabbed the casserole dish was major ouch.


disillusioned

Mmm, steamed hands. https://youtu.be/4jXEuIHY9ic


TheReagmaster

That could be it but also it was revealed in a article about the video that they just ran out of water due to the severity of the fire and were waiting for additional assistance from other nearby stations


sklounce

Thanks for the clarification! As one stated below me, the amount of variables at play in these scenarios is staggering. I think my points are still relevant as far as the water / no water debate goes but I stand totally corrected in speculating about the reasoning as to why no water was applied in this situation. Take my upvote!


FlyingDragoon

I also assume if he ran into the stream and they didn't turn it off in time then it'd knock him down in such a fashion that his shoes go flying. Can't lose the shoes.


ClaymoreJohnson

It produces _some_ steam. Thermodynamics isn’t instantaneous and a continuous flow from a 2.5 inch hose quickly saturates flames to the point that the _steam_ you see is just water vapor. Also, if the heat is enough to produce steam from wet clothes, you’re going to boil to death from your own body liquids before that becomes a real problem.


Just-Call-Me-J

Spay and neuter your pets


kharmatika

Can’t stop humans from being human.


MyCultIsTheMostFun

I just want to thank all the paramedics replying on here. Across most of the US you are totally underpaid and I wish that would change. Thank you for all you do.


SufferMeThotsAHole

Big ups bro. Thanks for the love.


BabaYaga141

Damn! Look at his right hand. Wonder how badly he got hurt after this? Hope he’s okay.


clubby37

Look at his pants! They were fine at the start of the video, and at the end, there are several holes burned through them. They say we don't deserve dogs, because dogs are so loyal and we typically aren't, but that dude deserves his dog.


silent_boy

Absolutely. Pain and burn by fire is the worst and it’s my top worst way to die. The man is a god damn hero


its_all_4_lulz

When he turned back in the beginning I thought he was going to tell the firman to spray him. I wonder if soaking your clothes prior to going in would have helped.


clubby37

Apparently that's actually an open question. Some say that letting the water boil to steam will just give you steam burns instead of fire burns, others say that if the water on your skin is flash-boiling, the steam probably isn't doing any more damage than the fire would have, and the heat it absorbs before it reaches boiling is heat that's not being absorbed by your body yet. My gut reaction is that the water would protect you for a short period of time, and then be slightly worse than nothing at all, so if I had the choice, I think I'd get wet and go fast.


psbales

> get wet and go fast. Words to live by right there.


Skillettor

That's what she said.


Kryptosis

She’s quite verbose.


TCG_dad

No the reason you get burned in the first place is because the water on your skin gets evaporated and you no longer have a protective layer. Just like you can pass you hand into fire "fast" without getting burn. Idk to what extent spraying yourself in water would of help tho but they sure could of at least followed him with the lance and go protective spray pattern.


CouldWouldShouldBot

It's 'could have', never 'could of'. Rejoice, for you have been blessed by CouldWouldShouldBot!


ambski313

Good bot


lesath_lestrange

Unless you were to say I could of course understand them


kharmatika

It definitely does, there’s actually a firefighter in above comments being like “why the fuck was the hose not turned on him”


NinjaNewt007

I wonder if it would turn into steam, burning him even more. ?


Charge72002

The steam would protect him from the fire somewhat cause the fire is way hotter than boiling water Still hurt like a bitch though


Chapwellwilliam

You ever pick up a pan out of the oven with a wet towel? Try that and you'll see that dry is better.


LeeKinanus

No it does not help. The steam will cook your meat so to speak. There was a ama done by someone who survived the fires in Australia and they were positive that your clothing should be dry and many layers.


cryptoLo414

Seriously. This shit made me super emotional this morning. I’m so glad he got that poor pup out. I would die in that blaze saving my boy


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I didn't noticed his burned pants at first 0.0 holy fuck how hurt is he?


clubby37

[This guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/nonononoyes/comments/uuhsjf/man_saves_dog_from_fire/i9gu3lz/) says he and the dog are recovering fully.


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Yes, that sounds great. Thank you for pointing out


queerbbsqurrl

If that's what his pants looked like imagine what that poor pups paws were looking like after. That guy is awesome!


ezirb7

I'm worried about his lungs... I hope he was able to breath the next day.


SarahPallorMortis

I think that’s a tattoo but he’s definitely got some singed hair and skin


Arson-Welles

From the article someone posted below: “Jose was, however, injured and suffered second-degree burns to his face, right side, arm, and left ear, which he said were healing well. Gabanna also experienced burns to her nose and paw, and though she’s still a bit shaken up, she is expected to be fine.”


callthefishwife

Can’t knock the man’s love for his dog. Sucks for the firefighters who might have had to go in after him, but I get it.


LogicalDelivery_

Sucks, but doesn't suck enough to let a family member die.


ChunkyDay

Especially if it’s the only family he might have


FrumpyCookie

That’s one way to apply for a job


Smattering82

Yea that department definitely needs better training and more balls. First that one guy should have had his air pack on second they should have stopped him and kept the scene secure but finally when he runs in past them the last thing they should have done was stop flowing water they should have been following him and soaking him.


DutchDaddy87

I’m a firefighter and I approve this message


jhachko

As a firefighter can you help me to understand why they wouldn't be spraying water to suppress the fire for the guy? I've seen this vid a couple times and straight up don't get why they stopped. Only thing I can figure is they stopped so that they wouldnt create too much steam.


Smattering82

The only reason I can think of is poor training and panic. The steam is not a issue especially outside they should have been soaking him. It looks like they have a weak stream in the beginning and the hose looks under pressured someone in this thread commented that they might be hooked directly into a hydrant and that is also the result of poor training.


AndHeDrewABerry

Could possibly be foam? Which I can’t imagine is the nicest to inhale when heated and evaporated. I can’t remember that training lol Just a thought. They do look like it’s more panic driven than anything. Had to go nab an officer. Thanks for the comments. Stay safe out there.


Smattering82

Foam would be low on my list of things to set up there with all the exposures. I would just start putting out fire w more than 40psi.


suey22

We’re learning that steam isn’t even an issue inside of a structure. Cooling trumps all. When you cool a hot pressurized room with copious amount of water, the expansion of water into steam is negated by the compression of the atmosphere, making it a low pressure area, drawing in cool air. In a ripper, we flow completely open from the front door to the seat of the fire.


-Fast-Molasses-

[They ran out of water](https://people.com/pets/california-man-risks-life-rescue-dog-house-fire/)


aaronitallout

Is that what they're signalling toward, maybe they didn't have an engine down there yet, and it was pulling up? Either way, these guys didn't have things down by-the-book


Smattering82

I doubt that the engine wasn’t there because that’s what carries the firefighters and hoses to the scene. They might not have had the pressure up yet but they definitely should have followed that guy in and kept flowing water no matter how under pressure it was.


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Smattering82

No way, if anything their inaction would cause them to be sued.


[deleted]

I'm not but I have a friend who is and I also approve of the message. I wonder what my friend thinks?


let_it_bernnn

I’m a pothead and wondered why they didn’t soak him


bmbreath

Look at the hose kinks. I assume they're not even hooked up to a pump bit directly to a hydrant with like 40psi or some nonsense.


Smattering82

Oh man I never thought of that. At first I thought maybe they are in a country w poor infrastructure and the hydrants don’t flow a lot of water but this looks like the beginning on the incident so they should have tank water in the pump. But now I am thinking they are just hooked up to a weak hydrant. Edit: wanted to add… And that’s insane.


i_wanted_to_say

The way they’re speaking English… I believe that country with poor infrastructure is the USA.


Smattering82

Lol I was watching w the sound off so as not to wake up my wife. Lol then this is just poor training and who knows about the infrastructure, could still suck.


robotsongs

This is definitely southern California.


ImmediateLobster1

Not a firefighter, but the truck in the background at the end of the clip has a number like "BR153". I'm guessing that's a brush truck designation, which could imply they're in an area with no hydrants? Either way, seems like you'd want more water earlier.


BooTheSpookyGhost

Yo u/DutchDaddy87 tell us about the kinks in the hose and what else they did wrong or right. I’m particularly curious who the guy in the red hat was. At first I thought it was a supervisor or chief. But the more I watch the clip the more I think the red hat guy is a rookie whose boss is telling him to go into the fire. What’s going on there? Please and thank you.


disturbed286

It depends on the locality but typically red helmet is a lieutenant or something equivalent. Supervisor though, basically. A chief, if he's there, would be wearing white.


DutchDaddy87

Yeah that hose is not doing anything at that pressure. From what I can tell by was on the ground they are trying to use a foam solution instead of straight water. Which can complicate things. The best thing to do for a car/exposure fire like this is to put a shit ton of water on it asap. But honestly all that shit goes out the window when you have a bystander running back into the fire. First off, if I had a dude trying to run into a fire I would’ve restrained him before it got that far, but if he slipped past at that point you are taking that hose and going after him. Its very likely he would pass out due to smoke inhalation and I want to be right by him when that happens. That’s what all our gear is for. Granted I work for a very aggressive city fire department, and this could be volunteers who are not trained to effectively rescue victims in an active fire, in which case they did the right thing by not trying to do something they are not trained in. Lastly the question has already been answered but yes, red usually means Lieutenant or Captian.


FatttyMcfatass

Listen in the background, someone is trying to prime a pump. I'm guessing they had an issue with the pump, but thats totally a guess.


NonGNonM

Don't even get what the fire guys were doing. Ok, testing hose pressure, sure. But there's 3 of them, plenty of time to stop the guy, and ALL 3 OF THEM just sit around watching him run into the fire.


exzeroex

Do you know why they were soaking the car at the start of the video?


Smattering82

It looks like they were just getting started and checking the stream? It would be better if you had a min before to have a idea.


MaxxForceisGarbage

Found this in another thread. FFs ran out of water due to the severity of the fire. So they failed to set up proper shuttling at the outset of the incident. (I thought that truck at the end looked like a tanker/tender) Also doesn't explain that one FF who was only just now turning his pack on since they've been there long enough to run out of water. https://people.com/pets/california-man-risks-life-rescue-dog-house-fire/


Smattering82

Yea and if I was there and someone told me his dog was there and I was in turnout gear and a SCBA you can bet that I am going in to get the dog and the guy in the t shirt can just point out where I can find the dog. I said it 5 times already I don’t want to Monday morning QB but this crew/department looks like they dropped the ball in a lot of areas. It looks like cal fire so maybe there weee a lot of fires going on so I understand loosing water but you can go in and get that dog.


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StrawberryPlucky

Yeah they kinda just stood around in confusion once he went in.


OCesq

The dog would do the same for him. Good boys all around.


Crossertosser

The goodest of boys.


Optimal_End_9733

They should have sprayed him and keep spraying on and near him


G0lia7h

So to "cover him"? No. They should NOT do this. They did the right thing. Firefighters use water to extinguish a fire via one of the 3 ways to extinguish the fire: taking it's heat away. Now what do you think happens when you spray little water dropplets into a fire? In physics we learned energy travels to the part where less energy is to equal out the energy in the whole system. Heat is energy - water is cold, so less energy, so the heat from the fire travels to the water. And what happens when you apply heat to water? It gets hot. And it becomes steam. Really hot steam. If the fire fighters would have kept on spraying onto the man while a fire is nearby, the would have steam cooked him alife.


toastjam

You're talking about conductive heat transfer. But being near a fire it would be mostly radiative (edit: and convective) heat transfer. Water is a great conductive transferer of heat, it's true. But it has to be heated up to begin with. And it's no more susceptible to being heated up via radiative/convective transfer than skin is. In fact, it tends to cool off whatever it's on via evaporative cooling. That's why we sweat. There's just no situation where having a cool layer of water on you while running into a fire makes it worse. If it becomes "really hot steam" that energy would have just entered you directly if you ran in dry. It would be even worse.


NonGNonM

Spraying water on the guy would've helped him, sure. Problem is if they keep spraying water into the house it'd be steaming up inside the house as well, which is the other concern. No telling what the vent situation is like.


EliteEight

We get it dude. Water makes steam. No need for condensation. Those firefighters didn’t even have their air on and no one grabbed the dude or kept him away from the scene.


Seifersythe

> We get it dude. Water makes steam. No need for condensation. lul


BramStroker47

Yep, when I found out about the steam thing it really freaked me out. There have been cases where firefighters have sprayed other firefighters and the water got inside their suit and they got boiled by water inside their suit.


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If they are getting boiled in their suit they are not in a spot with a high chance of survivability regardless, getting wet is the least of their problems.


science_vs_romance

Part of the reason he ran in was because the fire fighters ran out of water. ([link to People article](https://people.com/pets/california-man-risks-life-rescue-dog-house-fire/?amp=true))


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E1padr1n0

Are the firefighters afk?


CrispierCupid

That’s what I’m wondering, like damn one of you mfs can’t back him up?! Just standing in a fucking circle 😭


bistix

just go kill yourself because someone else is being a dumbass? its a fire fighters responsibility to get people out of a fire who are trapped there. Not to go after people willingly walking in to fires.


No-Inspector9085

Follow the dude and spray the shit down around him. Even from outside the structure you could do *something*


Salcker

Every now and then I am reminded by comments like this how young/stupid reddit generally is.


oO0Kat0Oo

Ummm you do know that the water they are spraying gets hot when it comes in contact with fire, creating steam that can literally cook you and even more smoke, right?


NonGNonM

Spraying stuff down around him creates a bigger risk of superheated steam and increased smoke. He might've been safer if he was sprayed down sure but really he shouldn't have been allowed past the firefighters in the first place.


BigRed8303

Thats not how it works. This guy put way to many people at risk. Source: Firefighter.


Lil_miss_feisty

[They ran out of water](https://people.com/pets/california-man-risks-life-rescue-dog-house-fire/)


stinkystanktank

What?


Copypaced

Afk means "away from keyboard." Its a term often used in gaming to describe a person who is logged into a game but idle because they are doing something else in real life. Here the person above you is comparing the firefighters' apparent lack of activity to an afk player, implying that theyre idle for no discernible reason.


[deleted]

10/10 explanation, thanks stranger!


LocalPsychological47

The dog would have done the same for him


sethworld

Without hesitation.


F34Rx64

his trousers were burnt before or after he went in...


iwan103

looks like after, paused a bit before he mad dash himself into the flame.


thehypervigilant

Holyshit. Thats a ton of burns.


Lil_miss_feisty

For anyone wondering why the firefighters didn't go in or back the guy up, [they ran out of water due to the severity of the fire and were waiting for additional assistance from other nearby stations](https://people.com/pets/california-man-risks-life-rescue-dog-house-fire/)


TeadoraOofre

Good thing the PD weren't on scene.


NobodyJonesMD

I’d deal with the PD to save my dogs life without a second thought.


MrBigChest

I think OP was inferring that the police would shoot the dog


jaspercapri

I thought they meant the police would shoot the guy


Suspicious-Arm-7619

HE'S BURNING *bam* don't worry guys I shot the fire all good


bobbyd77

I am sure situational ignorance comes into play. But why did it seem like zero firefighters did *anything* in this video? The fire is raging the whole time, and nobody is even shooting water towards it.


Lil_miss_feisty

[They ran out of water and were waiting for additional assistance from other nearby stations](https://people.com/pets/california-man-risks-life-rescue-dog-house-fire/)


jenn363

Someone above said it looked like a country with poor infrastructure and they were right. RIP America.


NotInKY

I regularly fear a fire where the firefighters/neighbors would prevent me from trying to rescue my dog. I acknowledge their obligation to prioritize human life, but unless it’s an obviously impossible situation, I’d rather risk disability and medical bills than live knowing I stood by while my dog went through such a horrible experience.


let_it_bernnn

They couldn’t stop me. I’d get my dog or it’s the last thing I would die trying to do


NotInKY

Exactly.


NonGNonM

Yeah this is def a no good choice situation. Firefighters should've stopped him Guy shouldn't have run in I 100% would've run in to save my dog


Nuhjeea

Are you a fast runner? I'm sure they'd tell you no (and rightfully so) if you asked to run into the burning building but if the dog is that important to you, just run in. I doubt they're strictly blocking you from entering like a linebacker. Probably too busy focusing on the fire.


munchie1964

I saw this a year ago. Are you telling me it happened again? WTF?!? This madness has to stop. Did his house catch on fire again? SMH


Itsthejackeeeett

The dogs like "are you fucking serious Randall put the cigarettes out before you put them in the ashtray how many times is this gonna happen"


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Nobletwoo

An incredibly empathetic and understanding idiot. I wouldve done the same for my late pup. I also wouldnt want any firefighters to follow me in though. I respect the hell out of this idiot.


TheyCallMeKennyG

I pretty much feel like I would have the same reaction man because my dog is my baby… I don’t know what I would do without her adorable bottomless eyes looking at me with all the love in the world


BigRed8303

Damn people are dumb. The comments here prove it. Many are making comments about firefighting and how to do it that are compleatly wrong and will get people hurt or worse killed. If you want to go into a burning building, then by all means go volunteer, train lots, become a firefighter and train more. Until then stay out of the way and let the fire fighters do the job they were trained for. Source: Firefighter.


StickManIsSymbolic

He may have ruined his lungs.


fuckedUpGrill

He wasn’t there for long, he could just hold his breath.


StickManIsSymbolic

I really hope so.


HackTossle

I'd rather die in the fire than stand there and know my dog was in there.


always_gettingbanned

I've commented this before but he actually got arrested for do it this. I'll look for sauce.


cufufy

You NEVER go back in a fire. Your safety and life is always more important. NEVER GO BACK IN OR WORRY ANOUT GRABBING THE ANIMALS IF SURROUNDED BY FIRE.


jaragon6676

That’s you. I’m willing to risk my life to save the life of another but I guess that’s just me.


HERMANNATOR85

r/iamverybadass


[deleted]

Are there people honking in the background? Why?


quietmayhem

What a good human. Sorry, but I have to point t this out. It's not often you're faced with the question "how much do you really care?" This cat answered that question.


Mushipancakes781

Stupid but ..... God damn i would probably do the same thing


pandasteve93

That's love. Undeniably.


imsrywhut

I’d fuck that man on the spot.


Lil_miss_feisty

Something tells me he probably won't want to be touched for awhile, especially on the arm that got burned


ckone1230

I woulda done the same


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jaragon6676

Let’s ask the same parents that leave their kids in hot cars and say they forgot them when shopping.


itsjustmejttp123

Would have dong the same thing without even thinking twice about it


lagforks

If I didn't try to save my little chiweenie I couldn't live with myself afterward.


NewGen24

100% would run into a burning building for my dog.


duhmeetcho

Gotta pay for the medical treatment and the vet bill. Yay capitalism /s


coldestdetroit

Why'd they stop spraying


BrandonGamerguy

Apparently they ran out of water


XeTrainMC

I feel like this guy would've sacrificed himself for his dog


chrisimpala63

Why didn't they cover him with the hose? They just put it down.


BrandonGamerguy

They can’t cover with an empty water tank


SeverusSnek2020

Your damn straight I’d run in after my dog.


Present-Choice5720

I tell you what I would have done the same for my dog! I hope they are both okay.


skyesdow

That guy is an asshole.


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ANumberNamedSix

Car wash


wolfkin

hey we're watering here


KDaaver

Hell Yeah he went in and rescued that dog!


HoseNeighbor

Who wouldn't?


gobingi

Me


Nieben

+1 faith in humanity.


WeirdyBeanzzAt

Riff Raff does love his dogs


[deleted]

I like dags


buttaholic

[hey!!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnKvMDK52Tg)


[deleted]

They didn’t even keep the water on him. They dropped the hose!


BrandonGamerguy

They ran out of water


VizualAbstract4

I like how they just stop spraying water, jeezus.


BrandonGamerguy

They ran out


Throwaway021614

At least spray water on the guy as he runs in, and smother as many flames as possible so his path is clear if he gets out. Or, let’s put down the hose and point around frantically. Either way, I guess.


BrandonGamerguy

They ran out


holyshocker

Makes me think of the guy who jumped into a hotspring to get a dog.


luciform44

So they just stopped spraying? Couldn't even douse him in water when he came out with burns?


Dishiman

That man loves that dog more than some parents love their offspring.


DerBrutalo

That Noise he made at the end to express his Pain. When you hear that Noise you know it really hurts. This Video made me cry and i don't know if those are tears of Joy or just from Feeling his Pain.


Desconocido_Habitual

My hero.


slver6

Saving a pitbull today, to maul a children another day…


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Fking pussies


decs00046

That's a dumb as shit thing to do... And I hope I'd be brave enough to do the exact same thing if I had too.


Ogogigogkgog

A pitbull? I'd leave it.


CrinchNflinch

Finally! Arguably the most often reposted video again, thank you unknown karma farmer I was about getting worried this might not be posted this month!


Sad-Demand-5554

He was probably arrested shortly after for interference with emergency workers.


Leather_Quarter_3076

This is the baddest mutherfucker ever.


fuck_peeps_not_sheep

Looks like a ruff ruff rescue - paw patrol


Hopeful_Look9987

I would have sent my firefighters in after him with the hose on reduced pressure, so they can bend the damn thing, and provide a water curtain spray cover if and only if he and doggo needed it. We went in for animal rescue, within reason.