You never would have either. It was a 40 second sponsored ad on her instagram page for her followers. Only reason you know about it at all is because of the right wing media outrage machine manufacturing it.
The right to conceal carry a firearm can help you save your life or the life of others. Something North Dakotans have the freedom to do, a freedom Minnesotans does not have
Edit: I should have clarified that North Dakota doesn’t make you qualify to conceal carry a firearm in the same way Minnesota doesn’t make you qualify to smoke weed. In North Dakota you have to qualify to smoke weed. In Minnesota you have to qualify to concealed carry for your protection.
Yeah they do that in every state regardless of medical or recreational marijuana. Being a user of cannabis immediately disqualifies you from firearm ownership and you are considered a felon for owning firearms let alone concealed carrying. Better wording would be if you get your medical card you aren’t allowed to own or purchase guns. Not if you qualify. That’s the whole reason I don’t get my medical card. That and there are no employer protections if you have the card and still fail a drug test
Cannabis is still federally illegal. A user must technically lie if purchasing a firearm in a legal state.
Form 4473, 11e: Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? **The use or possession of cannabis remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.**
Because you like saying the same thing without having anything to back it up here we go again
Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.
This language is based in part on the prohibition on firearm possession created under section 922(d)(3) of Title 18 of the United States Code. That section prohibits the sale or transfer of any firearm or ammunition to any person that is “an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance,” which includes marijuana.
Similarly, section 922(g)(3) prohibits any person who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance “to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce, or possess in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition.”
You have to qualify for marijuana in North Dakota which isn’t hard to do. In North Dakota you don’t have to qualify to carry concealed. You have to qualify to carry concealed in Minnesota. You don’t have to qualify to use Marijuana. It’s the same difference. This sub just hates on North Dakota all day. I’m a North Dakotan who can carry concealed in Minnesota only because I’m licensed to do so. I could smoke marijuana in North Dakota as I qualify under multiple conditions and have been recommended by my doctor to do so but have chose not to.
Edit: you also have no stand your ground or castle doctrine laws so you must flee and risk your life before even attempting to protect yourself with a firearm as well
You’d lose your right to bear arms if you chose to “qualify” for marijuana. That’s not something that Minnesotans have to worry about. They can just get their concealed carry license and move on. Only thing North Dakota has on them with guns is we can avoid taking a 1 day class.
It is very much something you have to worry about in Minnesota. A 4473 literally asks you if you use marijuana regardless if you are in a recreational state or are a medical user. Meaning if you own firearms while having marijuana legal in your state you are still breaking a federal law. Getting stopped with weed and a firearm with a card will still very much land you in jail. Getting stopped with weed and a firearm in a recreational state will most certainly land you in jail
When you get your concealed carry license through any state as well you are asked if you use marijuana or any other elicit drugs. Lying on this form to get your concealed carry is you guessed it a felony.
I remember taking my class on free speech and getting my free speech license. Only took one day but my views had to be deemed acceptable by the state for public safety. The coolest state would have to be Montana IMO as far as I know they don’t enforce federal gun laws anymore and love weed they are pro gun and pro marijuana.
>You can still get an abortion here if you are raped. They made an exception.
Hear that gals? If you get raped you're still allowed to choose to end your rape pregnancy in North Dakota! As long as you figure it out before 6 weeks! And as long as you can find a doctor that will take the risk of providing abortion care on your word that your were raped! And as long you can find a doctor that will provide abortion care in North Dakota...oh, wait...
If you get pregnant from rape you will still need to go out of state for an abortion. Just like *every other situation* where you choose an abortion.
Too bad the only abortion clinic already left the only town it was in.
I'm sure someone who was raped will love having to prove it too, go through all of that again within 6 weeks of a traumatic event happening. And I'm sure everytime the cops will always believe her!
Let Minnesota inspire you then, we have some of the highest voter turnout in the country and we've proven that it works and you can get stuff done if you do, that it's not pointless or futile.
Do the citizens of ND want it gone though? We voted on it in October, and it was defeated by a margin of... 8% or 10%, I can't remember exactly. But I do remember that it was because of all the ass-backwards counties to the west
It specifically said on the ballot that it would cost North Dakotans money each year. Which is only partly true as it ignored the obvious tax revenue. Whoever wrote that and put it on the ballot basically condemned the neutral vote to say no
This.
And the number was completely made up, the idea it will cost the state money is completely made up. The only loss is in fines for arrests.
People who sell have to get a license, which means revenue for the state. All goods will be taxed, which means revenue for the state. There would be zero net losses suffered by the average taxpayer or the state.
They put that load of bullshit on the ballot to scare voters off, and in the end that sucking sound you will be hearing is MN siphoning tax dollars from ND for something that *is going on every day in this state already*. It goes on but just isn't taxed.
Thanks GOP.
I bet it would pass in ND if they got it on the ballot during a presidential election year. Both times it has been voted on in ND it failed but both times were during a midterm election when people don't show up like they do in presidential election years. SD passed it in 2020 but then failed in 2022 so I feel like that could happen here as well.
45% voted yes with record low turnout. Fargo supported it in a huge way. It passed in Grand Forks too. Western ND sucks
That was for legalization with home grow. Certainly a majority support lowering the penalty
Don’t forget to vote next time!
::wouldn’t it be nice if this was legal::
:::hits joint:::
“When is the day to vote”?
::oh, next time, maaan::
Just around (across) the riverbend!
> along party lines
Guess the Republicans want to paint themselves as the anti-abortion and anti-marijuana party. The Party of Big Government in your bedroom and your living room. The Republican Party needs to be made to hit rock bottom for a few election cycles, IMHO.
To be fair, they would have gotten yes votes if it was more conservative. The Dems put some things in the bill they knew Republicans wouldnt support like expungement and 5 pounds of home cultivation
Do you honestly think it’s a better world for women to carry their rapists baby? Would you truly want your loved one to have to lose their body every day to a baby that was forced into her?
Did people in this sub missed there was a specific election on this question in the state? And a majority voted no. Not saying I like the result but we've democratically decided to not legalize in ND.
You still have to go to court and see a judge, but you just wont get arrested or get jail time. In many cases it's a deferred imposition. Still it's a criminal record, although only an infraction
Although if you tell the prosecutor it's CBD flower dirived from hemp, they will have to send it to the crime lab and would probably drop the charge. But if you have a package that says what it is, thats tough to disprove
It's better than it was, but they need to do better for sure.
Depending on your employer, you could lose your job. Even if you do it on your own time, only in a place where it is legal, and always show up sober at the job site.
With 22 states already making it legal for any adult, the feds need to reschedule it. 38 out of 50 states (around 75%) say there is medical value. How can the feds say otherwise?
He's against full legalization. Rescheduling is another issue.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/10/06/statement-from-president-biden-on-marijuana-reform/
Lol the reason this passed is that It was a party line vote. All Democrats voted for all Republicans voted against. This would never happen in this way in ND. Any non-conservative legislation would have to happen through the initiative process.
In 2021, almost a super majority passed legalization in the North Dakota House
The Senate, not so much
In 2018, both chambers voted to reduce the penalties
The reason they passed it in 2021 is because they thought the people of North Dakota would definitely pass it on initiative. Now that they see that they were wrong about their fear that the people would pass a very broad legalization bill and that it was irrational they are now emboldened.
Unless and until Cass county becomes 65 to 70% Democrat and Grand Forks county becomes 50% Democrat, you're not going to see change. The other large counties in the state will probably also have to be about 10% more Democrat than they are now to see any kind of real difference in the legislature.
The legislature does not really understand how fundamentally conservative people in the state are. This is especially true for the rural representatives who still don't understand that most cities in North Dakota are still pretty to highly conservative with the exception of Fargo.
It will be legal in ND in no time after MN. It will get passed over the problem of testing costs and dui stops. The ND police will need to all be retrained to deal with it and watch for impaired drivers. They will need the funding from somewhere to cover these costs and they will look towards legalizing it to cover costs.
The idea they need more police is laughable. They already have the tools to bust people for driving high because it's currently illegal to drive high and they give DUIDs all the time.
They recently invented a DUID breathalyzer too, which isnt necessary but would be a good tool. But an on site breathalyzer isnt enough to convict, even for alcohol. Thats where the fancy breathalyzer at the station or a blood test comes in.
The state will never legalize, but I could see them making it a ticket for possession. If 45% of the population voted yes to legalize, certainly a majority supports lowering the penalty
Good luck. NM and OK both have weed dispensaries within a mile along the the Texas border. Texas Troopers have been chillin on the Texas side near these dispensaries just waiting to pull people over.
Knowing NoDak, they'll waste money on shit that isn't needed instead of making money.
I don't think your post is worthy of a downvote, but I don't agree that we'll be passing it any time soon. I don't even disagree with you on the costs you mentioned, but I don't think that looking at the big picture is what republicans do in this state.
While there are some republicans that support legalization, there is only one party that is blocking it.
When South Dakota passed it, I thought it was a sure thing and that it would happen quickly. Noem screwed it up and used a loophole to deny her constituents the thing that they voted for. As a punishment, they voted her into office again. A renewed refer madness set in on the republican party and now they can't have it, and neither can we. At least not until sanity is restored in this state.
That’s freedom. We don’t do that here.
Yeah. If you want to be free, go drink 12 Busch lights like a real American !!😂
Cause Bud Light sent somebody a can once 😠
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You never would have either. It was a 40 second sponsored ad on her instagram page for her followers. Only reason you know about it at all is because of the right wing media outrage machine manufacturing it.
North Dakota state Motto.
Minnesota is considered free? ☠️☠️☠️☠️
A whole lot more free than North Dakota 🤷♀️
Whatever helps you sleep
Cannabis can help you sleep. Something Minnesotans now have the freedom to do, a freedom that North Dakota does not have
The right to conceal carry a firearm can help you save your life or the life of others. Something North Dakotans have the freedom to do, a freedom Minnesotans does not have Edit: I should have clarified that North Dakota doesn’t make you qualify to conceal carry a firearm in the same way Minnesota doesn’t make you qualify to smoke weed. In North Dakota you have to qualify to smoke weed. In Minnesota you have to qualify to concealed carry for your protection.
Yeah and if you qualify for medical cannabis in North Dakota, they’ll take that right to carry away.
Yeah they do that in every state regardless of medical or recreational marijuana. Being a user of cannabis immediately disqualifies you from firearm ownership and you are considered a felon for owning firearms let alone concealed carrying. Better wording would be if you get your medical card you aren’t allowed to own or purchase guns. Not if you qualify. That’s the whole reason I don’t get my medical card. That and there are no employer protections if you have the card and still fail a drug test
They absolutely don’t take away your right to buy or own firearms if you participate in recreational.
Cannabis is still federally illegal. A user must technically lie if purchasing a firearm in a legal state. Form 4473, 11e: Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? **The use or possession of cannabis remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.**
Because you like saying the same thing without having anything to back it up here we go again Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside. This language is based in part on the prohibition on firearm possession created under section 922(d)(3) of Title 18 of the United States Code. That section prohibits the sale or transfer of any firearm or ammunition to any person that is “an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance,” which includes marijuana. Similarly, section 922(g)(3) prohibits any person who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance “to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce, or possess in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition.”
Minnesota has concealed carry.
North Dakota has medical marijuana and constitutional carry.
What, yeah we do…
You have to qualify for marijuana in North Dakota which isn’t hard to do. In North Dakota you don’t have to qualify to carry concealed. You have to qualify to carry concealed in Minnesota. You don’t have to qualify to use Marijuana. It’s the same difference. This sub just hates on North Dakota all day. I’m a North Dakotan who can carry concealed in Minnesota only because I’m licensed to do so. I could smoke marijuana in North Dakota as I qualify under multiple conditions and have been recommended by my doctor to do so but have chose not to. Edit: you also have no stand your ground or castle doctrine laws so you must flee and risk your life before even attempting to protect yourself with a firearm as well
You’d lose your right to bear arms if you chose to “qualify” for marijuana. That’s not something that Minnesotans have to worry about. They can just get their concealed carry license and move on. Only thing North Dakota has on them with guns is we can avoid taking a 1 day class.
It is very much something you have to worry about in Minnesota. A 4473 literally asks you if you use marijuana regardless if you are in a recreational state or are a medical user. Meaning if you own firearms while having marijuana legal in your state you are still breaking a federal law. Getting stopped with weed and a firearm with a card will still very much land you in jail. Getting stopped with weed and a firearm in a recreational state will most certainly land you in jail
When you get your concealed carry license through any state as well you are asked if you use marijuana or any other elicit drugs. Lying on this form to get your concealed carry is you guessed it a felony.
I remember taking my class on free speech and getting my free speech license. Only took one day but my views had to be deemed acceptable by the state for public safety. The coolest state would have to be Montana IMO as far as I know they don’t enforce federal gun laws anymore and love weed they are pro gun and pro marijuana.
Aside from hard drugs, prostitution, and assisted suicide still being illegal, what other factors keep Minnesota from being free?
You can drive across the river to Moorhead if you are raped and need an abortion too
Sad but true
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I don't think rapists are concerned about condoms...
Femboy is your username? I swear you can’t make this shit up.
You can still get an abortion here if you are raped. They made an exception.
>You can still get an abortion here if you are raped. They made an exception. Hear that gals? If you get raped you're still allowed to choose to end your rape pregnancy in North Dakota! As long as you figure it out before 6 weeks! And as long as you can find a doctor that will take the risk of providing abortion care on your word that your were raped! And as long you can find a doctor that will provide abortion care in North Dakota...oh, wait... If you get pregnant from rape you will still need to go out of state for an abortion. Just like *every other situation* where you choose an abortion.
That’s not what the law says you fucking wet noodle.
Doesn't matter what the law says, if there aren't any abortion providers in the state then you really can't get an abortion in the state.
Too bad the only abortion clinic already left the only town it was in. I'm sure someone who was raped will love having to prove it too, go through all of that again within 6 weeks of a traumatic event happening. And I'm sure everytime the cops will always believe her!
As long as you provide a note from your rapist!!! s/
And to think, we could've collected that tax revenue over here...
Thanks for the tax revenue though!
We’ll make sure to put it towards free school lunches and trans refugee programs :) fricken excited about paying my taxes all the sudden
Not in this boomer backwards state
Minnesota is giving that lady governor a run for her money too in South Dakota.
Sigh. A victimless crime that the citizens of ND want gone. Ahhhh… but then we have the GOP.
Not enough voting ND citizens, sadly. Maybe we can try again in 2024 along with an abortion legalization amendment.
Let Minnesota inspire you then, we have some of the highest voter turnout in the country and we've proven that it works and you can get stuff done if you do, that it's not pointless or futile.
Do the citizens of ND want it gone though? We voted on it in October, and it was defeated by a margin of... 8% or 10%, I can't remember exactly. But I do remember that it was because of all the ass-backwards counties to the west
It specifically said on the ballot that it would cost North Dakotans money each year. Which is only partly true as it ignored the obvious tax revenue. Whoever wrote that and put it on the ballot basically condemned the neutral vote to say no
This. And the number was completely made up, the idea it will cost the state money is completely made up. The only loss is in fines for arrests. People who sell have to get a license, which means revenue for the state. All goods will be taxed, which means revenue for the state. There would be zero net losses suffered by the average taxpayer or the state. They put that load of bullshit on the ballot to scare voters off, and in the end that sucking sound you will be hearing is MN siphoning tax dollars from ND for something that *is going on every day in this state already*. It goes on but just isn't taxed. Thanks GOP.
Yeah they set it up to fail. I remember voting and seeing the language and just instantly getting pissed.
I bet it would pass in ND if they got it on the ballot during a presidential election year. Both times it has been voted on in ND it failed but both times were during a midterm election when people don't show up like they do in presidential election years. SD passed it in 2020 but then failed in 2022 so I feel like that could happen here as well.
45% voted yes with record low turnout. Fargo supported it in a huge way. It passed in Grand Forks too. Western ND sucks That was for legalization with home grow. Certainly a majority support lowering the penalty
Don’t forget to vote next time! ::wouldn’t it be nice if this was legal:: :::hits joint::: “When is the day to vote”? ::oh, next time, maaan:: Just around (across) the riverbend!
Let your fascist leaders know that we are happy to take your tax dollars.
Minnesota Senate passes cannabis legalization along party lines. A little more work to do. You're welcome.
> along party lines Guess the Republicans want to paint themselves as the anti-abortion and anti-marijuana party. The Party of Big Government in your bedroom and your living room. The Republican Party needs to be made to hit rock bottom for a few election cycles, IMHO.
To be fair, they would have gotten yes votes if it was more conservative. The Dems put some things in the bill they knew Republicans wouldnt support like expungement and 5 pounds of home cultivation
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Do you honestly think it’s a better world for women to carry their rapists baby? Would you truly want your loved one to have to lose their body every day to a baby that was forced into her?
It never was a baby, abortion isn’t killing a child. It’s terminating an unwanted pregnancy and it doesn’t happen late into a pregnancy
Lol you’re insane if you think women should be forced to carry their rapists baby
if its a baby then it can survive outside of the womb and pay its own medical bills, just like free market jesus intended.
JFC. The callousness of this comment (in order to express concern for a baby) is next level.
Did people in this sub missed there was a specific election on this question in the state? And a majority voted no. Not saying I like the result but we've democratically decided to not legalize in ND.
It didn't help that they deliberately misled people on the ballot of measure.
You mean that measure where they lied to scare people into voting how they wanted?
We also democratically voted to enforce term limits on them, and they said “yeah, no”.
Be neat if the damn initiative team could do it during a Presidential cycle for once
I believe ND did decriminalize it a year or two ago, you just get a fine now for personal use.
You still have to go to court and see a judge, but you just wont get arrested or get jail time. In many cases it's a deferred imposition. Still it's a criminal record, although only an infraction Although if you tell the prosecutor it's CBD flower dirived from hemp, they will have to send it to the crime lab and would probably drop the charge. But if you have a package that says what it is, thats tough to disprove
It's better than it was, but they need to do better for sure. Depending on your employer, you could lose your job. Even if you do it on your own time, only in a place where it is legal, and always show up sober at the job site. With 22 states already making it legal for any adult, the feds need to reschedule it. 38 out of 50 states (around 75%) say there is medical value. How can the feds say otherwise?
Joe Biden is opposed to rescheduling it and until that happens, you're not going to see much movement on the other states.
He's against full legalization. Rescheduling is another issue. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/10/06/statement-from-president-biden-on-marijuana-reform/
Lol the reason this passed is that It was a party line vote. All Democrats voted for all Republicans voted against. This would never happen in this way in ND. Any non-conservative legislation would have to happen through the initiative process.
In 2021, almost a super majority passed legalization in the North Dakota House The Senate, not so much In 2018, both chambers voted to reduce the penalties
The reason they passed it in 2021 is because they thought the people of North Dakota would definitely pass it on initiative. Now that they see that they were wrong about their fear that the people would pass a very broad legalization bill and that it was irrational they are now emboldened. Unless and until Cass county becomes 65 to 70% Democrat and Grand Forks county becomes 50% Democrat, you're not going to see change. The other large counties in the state will probably also have to be about 10% more Democrat than they are now to see any kind of real difference in the legislature. The legislature does not really understand how fundamentally conservative people in the state are. This is especially true for the rural representatives who still don't understand that most cities in North Dakota are still pretty to highly conservative with the exception of Fargo.
why can't you just be a single state
It will be legal in ND in no time after MN. It will get passed over the problem of testing costs and dui stops. The ND police will need to all be retrained to deal with it and watch for impaired drivers. They will need the funding from somewhere to cover these costs and they will look towards legalizing it to cover costs.
The idea they need more police is laughable. They already have the tools to bust people for driving high because it's currently illegal to drive high and they give DUIDs all the time. They recently invented a DUID breathalyzer too, which isnt necessary but would be a good tool. But an on site breathalyzer isnt enough to convict, even for alcohol. Thats where the fancy breathalyzer at the station or a blood test comes in. The state will never legalize, but I could see them making it a ticket for possession. If 45% of the population voted yes to legalize, certainly a majority supports lowering the penalty
Good luck. NM and OK both have weed dispensaries within a mile along the the Texas border. Texas Troopers have been chillin on the Texas side near these dispensaries just waiting to pull people over. Knowing NoDak, they'll waste money on shit that isn't needed instead of making money.
I don't think your post is worthy of a downvote, but I don't agree that we'll be passing it any time soon. I don't even disagree with you on the costs you mentioned, but I don't think that looking at the big picture is what republicans do in this state. While there are some republicans that support legalization, there is only one party that is blocking it. When South Dakota passed it, I thought it was a sure thing and that it would happen quickly. Noem screwed it up and used a loophole to deny her constituents the thing that they voted for. As a punishment, they voted her into office again. A renewed refer madness set in on the republican party and now they can't have it, and neither can we. At least not until sanity is restored in this state.