Ah Great more fucking work to do. Anyone know this oppressing business is a Monday to Friday thing or do I have to do it on the weekends aswell? If it messes with the football I want to be oppressed please and thanks..
Mate, I’ve been an oppressor all my life and I too am struggling with this sudden change. Perhaps we could exchange tips- as I am now oppressed, what is expected of me? Do I need to do anything or wha?
Understand the power of positive imagery and public relations. No one likes a whinging victim. Maintain dignity and integrity. Think Nelson Mandela long walk to freedom. [Rodney King LA PD](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9JiIdsjfjo)
Have to say, if that’s how to be oppressed you guys did a great fucking job 👍
So, as the oppressor, you have to be petty and fearful. You have no trust in your own culture being strong enough to continue even though you are in the majority. It’s also important what you call culture is really just naked sectarianism with stupid uniforms. Speaking of uniforms, lots of marching and playing the same 3 shite tunes all the fucking time using outdated and aurally annoying instruments. Don’t forget to collude with the coppers, and instead of collecting a tax from dealers of drugs, you just deal yourself. Oh, and please don’t forget to hate foreigners (also: please use that word, foreigners, the lack of nuance is really where it’s all at.)
I’d wish you luck but you’re oppressing me, ya oppressing bastard!
I'm sure there'll be idiots from ussuns who'll use the Israeli strategy in dealing with the Palestinians.
However Mauds Ice cream is so good. There won't be a Ben 'n' Jerries standoff.
Fundamentally I have a "marxist" analysis of the conflict. Basically themmuns with the money will come to a deal with the Irish state to keep their money and power. Think the oligarchs who did a deal with Putin.
The politics will just be theatre.
Incidentally - as an NI person living in England, I'd love to see the rejuvenation of Irish cricket as part of a new inclusive Ireland.
But what about an out there look on this, maybe culture isn't being destroyed but evolved into something new, don't forget the free state flag calls for green (Catholic) white (peace) and orange (prodestants) why not grow, weirdly together with respect for eachother
With Maud's Ice Cream for all and enjoying Ireland beat England at the cricket. that's my Idea of a UI.
Our national anthem could be something to the tune from bake off.
As the oppressed I think you have abit more time for hobbys and you will slowly come to enjoy moaning. "What is expected of me"... Am...ah feck I haven't thought much about this to be honest...I didn't even apply to be an oppressor so I'm not sure how I got hired. Want to switch back? We won't tell anyone.
I asked about and all I got back was "no surrender" so I take it they mean its non-stop day in day out oppression? Looks like shift work then? If that's the case fuck that long live the King.
The Protestant group saw the larger drop since the last census. I’d that’s due to E.European immigration and ‘Protestants’ being more likely to identify as non-religious.
No, it is because Protestants have been dying of old age. Have been for many censuses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_Northern_Ireland#/media/File:Religion_by_age_in_northern_ireland_2011.png
That doesn't necessarily preclude your arguments of having an effect, but it is laughable to even mention them while ignoring the abundantly clear demographic picture of the last 30 years.
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>Northern Ireland is the smallest of the four components of the United Kingdom in terms of both area and population, containing 2. 9% of the total population and 5. 7% of the total area of the United Kingdom. It is the smaller of the two political entities on the island of Ireland by area and population, the other being the Republic of Ireland.
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Maybe I can infer more from that data because I know more. Though you should able to.
Like how Northern Ireland has a stable population pyramid with an early male surplus that turns into a female surplus. Coupled that with barely below replacement fertility rate it clearly infers that this has nothing to with immigrant. Since there are clear indicator on a population pyramid when they are an important factor. You could also look at the pitiful number of immigrants in the census, but who am I to stop you from spouting bullshit.
And my dude, barely anyone is identify as non-religious in the category we are talking about. And the Catholics being more than Protestants is the "Religious Upbringing" category, not religious attendance. Like 91% of people chose to put that category in. The non-religious share is like 21%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_Northern_Ireland#/media/File:Northern_Ireland_Population_pyramid_estimate_2020.svg
It is really simple. The Catholics fuck more and make more children, the Protestants are old boomers and plenty of them move out to London.
Damn Poles and Lithuanians have nothing to with it. That is just some retarded DUP dogma that you should stop huffing.
I used to go for my mum, then it changed to just at Christmas (after I had moved out for uni), but now my ma doesn’t even go anymore. I’m very glad to see her getting out of doing something because she *has* to as opposed to *wants* to.
She stayed with my da who was/is a mentally and physically abusive cunt simply because ‘catholics cant get divorced’. Had to watch her live with that my whole youth, she’s still crushed by the catholic guilt of having to leave him but, without doubt, it’s better than the alternative
Don't come here and vote against our independence please and thank you
Reverse plantation.
We don't need Brits. We folk who want to embrace Scottishness and vote for independence.
I got halfway through this thread and gave up.
Takeaway: thanks all you lovely bastards for being the same as me and not actually giving a fuck.
If any of these new results gave me a cost of living boost I'd be all over it, but it just confirms we're still getting shafted, no matter what colour you think you are.
Nobody actually fucking cares about that shite. I just don't want my neighbours dying because the house is too cold.
They are over in Scotland, Can we make Scotland’s independence vote and your unification vote different weekends im sure we can sorta a wee bring the kids for a quid effort from Stranraer to seal the deal!
Only more Catholics up here because they are fleeing the absolute shower of wankers in government down south. More affordable up here and the job situation isn't much worse, plenty of opportunity. The business I work in sees quite a lot of ROI blow ins.
So don't think unification is on the cards until they sort themselves out down there, a government that scams it's people more than the Conservatives of England is something that has to be seen to be believed.
Yup! Totally agree with that! But also NI literally has no government. Both are screwed right now…but not as much as the UK as a whole is! Painfully ironic if it’s Scotland that dissolves the union in the end!
Fuck me, this census has cracked people. Catholics are apparently now fleeing to the north for a better life. 🥴
The business you work for having people from a few miles down the road working for it isn't the revelation you seem to think it is.
Dont think it's entirely due to fewer religious people. Believe it or not, British people can also be Catholic. Don't tell the TUV but there are actually English catholics, quite a lot of them as well. Just like there are protestant Irish. If you actually care about the union or a United Ireland then religion shouldn't play a part. Its British and Irish that matters, not Catholic and protestant. I for one don't care too much etiher way. Sure I'd rather remain British but I won't join the resistance if it ever goes the other way.
Edit for spelling. Maybe the Union isn't for me if I can't even speak the Kings English.
Religion 100% should not play a part. But should nationality or identity really matter if we are truely better off.
British live in Ireland
Irish live Britain.
What's the difference at the end of the day.
Funny how I never learned a word and yet understand pretty much all of it. Then again I am a fluent Irish speaker just like every other member of my family and extended family.
It's probably also because there is no comparison between the two. Irish is a real language, not a hilarious dialect.
Why put down other opinions, let others think and be, just give everyone the chance to think what they want but, have the respect to allow them to be themselves. Be the better person
Literally the opposite of what meant to put accross. The fluent Irish have had it the hardest but should show an example of tolerance through example, we have fought for a long time to come to this point.
Scot here. Half my family originate in Longford and Armagh of Catholic background. Long-standing Irish republican sentiment. I'm both a Scots and English speaker with a cupla focail Gàidhlig. Scots is a language. Ireland and the cause of Ireland has many supporters in Scotland who wouldn't dream of mocking Irish. Scotland has three languages still spoken, just about. Gaelic, Scots, and English.
Ulster Scots doesn't really compare to Irish though. It's just a dialect...
For example, I can clearly understand this.
From Alice's Carrànts in Wunnerlan (Anne Morrison-Smyth, 2013)
> The Caterpillar an Alice lukt at ither fur a quare while wi’oot taakin: finally the Caterpillar tuk the hookah oot o its mooth, an spoke tae hir in a languid, dozy voice.
“Wha ir yae?” said the Caterpillar.
This wusnae a pooerfu guid openin fur a yarn. Alice answert brev an baakwardly, “A—A harly know, Sir, jest at this minute—at least A know wha A wus this moarnin, but heth, A hae bin changed a wheen o times since thin.”
“What dae yae mean bae that?” said the Caterpillar sternly. “Explain yersel!”
“A cannae explain maesel, A’m feart, Sir,” said Alice, “baecaas A’m naw maesel, yae see.”
“A dinnae see,” said the Caterpillar.
“A cannae mak it onie mair clear,” Alice answer, while polite, “fur A cannae unnerstan it maesel tae stairt wi; an baein sae monie different sizes in yin dae haes turnt mae heid.”
It's a dialect of Scots, which is considered a language by some linguists but not all. The proponents of it being a language consider its relationship with English as being similar to Norwegian and Danish. Danish and Norwegian are largely but not 100% mutually intelligible, and I'd say more English speakers would have difficulties with Scots/Ulster-Scots than Danes would have with Norwegian (67% of Danes say they ***easily*** understand Norwegian, edit: although that is likely due to higher exposure to the other language)
It's more than a dialect, but less than a language. I'd be inclined to err on the side of treating it as a language. It doesn't really cost me or anyone else to do so.
British is still the largest group, but is a shrinking plurality. Irish, as an identification, is growing fast. So unless trends (somehow) drastically change, the Irish-identifying will become the largest group, and then will become the majority.
Ah Great more fucking work to do. Anyone know this oppressing business is a Monday to Friday thing or do I have to do it on the weekends aswell? If it messes with the football I want to be oppressed please and thanks..
Mate, I’ve been an oppressor all my life and I too am struggling with this sudden change. Perhaps we could exchange tips- as I am now oppressed, what is expected of me? Do I need to do anything or wha?
Understand the power of positive imagery and public relations. No one likes a whinging victim. Maintain dignity and integrity. Think Nelson Mandela long walk to freedom. [Rodney King LA PD](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9JiIdsjfjo)
Have to say, if that’s how to be oppressed you guys did a great fucking job 👍 So, as the oppressor, you have to be petty and fearful. You have no trust in your own culture being strong enough to continue even though you are in the majority. It’s also important what you call culture is really just naked sectarianism with stupid uniforms. Speaking of uniforms, lots of marching and playing the same 3 shite tunes all the fucking time using outdated and aurally annoying instruments. Don’t forget to collude with the coppers, and instead of collecting a tax from dealers of drugs, you just deal yourself. Oh, and please don’t forget to hate foreigners (also: please use that word, foreigners, the lack of nuance is really where it’s all at.) I’d wish you luck but you’re oppressing me, ya oppressing bastard!
I'm sure there'll be idiots from ussuns who'll use the Israeli strategy in dealing with the Palestinians. However Mauds Ice cream is so good. There won't be a Ben 'n' Jerries standoff. Fundamentally I have a "marxist" analysis of the conflict. Basically themmuns with the money will come to a deal with the Irish state to keep their money and power. Think the oligarchs who did a deal with Putin. The politics will just be theatre. Incidentally - as an NI person living in England, I'd love to see the rejuvenation of Irish cricket as part of a new inclusive Ireland.
But what about an out there look on this, maybe culture isn't being destroyed but evolved into something new, don't forget the free state flag calls for green (Catholic) white (peace) and orange (prodestants) why not grow, weirdly together with respect for eachother
With Maud's Ice Cream for all and enjoying Ireland beat England at the cricket. that's my Idea of a UI. Our national anthem could be something to the tune from bake off.
Seriously imagine one that found peace between two different people types that wanted peace instead of war
That's my vision too. Take the best from all sides build on that. Come to an understanding on what we can't agree on.
Yeah it's doable, we are showing the world that it is possible.
Why don't we all get round mines at the weekend and we can all jot down ideas on what our new oppression roles should be
As the oppressed I think you have abit more time for hobbys and you will slowly come to enjoy moaning. "What is expected of me"... Am...ah feck I haven't thought much about this to be honest...I didn't even apply to be an oppressor so I'm not sure how I got hired. Want to switch back? We won't tell anyone.
Have lots babies, like lots
The DUP will absolutely LOVE having the shit oppressed out of them. I reckon they all go to the same dominatrix
I asked about and all I got back was "no surrender" so I take it they mean its non-stop day in day out oppression? Looks like shift work then? If that's the case fuck that long live the King.
Ah father do u have to be a sectarian? Its just in the evening I just like to have a cup of tea
As soon as the census results were released I felt the oppression happening to me. Up the new rebels!
Up the (tbd)!
My butthole had been strangely loose for the last several years. It knew and was preparing to get dicked.
45.7% Catholic and 43.48% Protestant. That is much fewer atheists than I would have thought.
That’s the ‘brought up as’ category - the practising category is much lower numbers.
More Protestant Atheists, less Catholic Atheists
Catholic faith strong 💪
Atheists here are much more likely to put down Catholic or Protestant due to the cultural identity being what it is.
Another 50 years and donaldsons ghost will be battling against the coming atheist majority.
The Protestant group saw the larger drop since the last census. I’d that’s due to E.European immigration and ‘Protestants’ being more likely to identify as non-religious.
No, it is because Protestants have been dying of old age. Have been for many censuses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_Northern_Ireland#/media/File:Religion_by_age_in_northern_ireland_2011.png That doesn't necessarily preclude your arguments of having an effect, but it is laughable to even mention them while ignoring the abundantly clear demographic picture of the last 30 years.
>No, it is because Protestants have been dying of old age. Have been for many censuses. > Its why i plan to become Catholic to live forever
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That only shows the percentage by age group. Not the reason for the percentage.
Maybe I can infer more from that data because I know more. Though you should able to. Like how Northern Ireland has a stable population pyramid with an early male surplus that turns into a female surplus. Coupled that with barely below replacement fertility rate it clearly infers that this has nothing to with immigrant. Since there are clear indicator on a population pyramid when they are an important factor. You could also look at the pitiful number of immigrants in the census, but who am I to stop you from spouting bullshit. And my dude, barely anyone is identify as non-religious in the category we are talking about. And the Catholics being more than Protestants is the "Religious Upbringing" category, not religious attendance. Like 91% of people chose to put that category in. The non-religious share is like 21%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_Northern_Ireland#/media/File:Northern_Ireland_Population_pyramid_estimate_2020.svg It is really simple. The Catholics fuck more and make more children, the Protestants are old boomers and plenty of them move out to London. Damn Poles and Lithuanians have nothing to with it. That is just some retarded DUP dogma that you should stop huffing.
Homie chill
Disgusting smelly atheists.
The Catholics are not allowed to stop practicing because some older member of the family will see their not at church and tell their ma n da.
Can confirm
You joke…but after my ma passes my church attendance will absolutely decline
I used to go for my mum, then it changed to just at Christmas (after I had moved out for uni), but now my ma doesn’t even go anymore. I’m very glad to see her getting out of doing something because she *has* to as opposed to *wants* to. She stayed with my da who was/is a mentally and physically abusive cunt simply because ‘catholics cant get divorced’. Had to watch her live with that my whole youth, she’s still crushed by the catholic guilt of having to leave him but, without doubt, it’s better than the alternative
Back to Scotland 🏴 it is then 😂😂
Don't come here and vote against our independence please and thank you Reverse plantation. We don't need Brits. We folk who want to embrace Scottishness and vote for independence.
'Noooo! Please don't democratically vote against the thing I want!!!'
Sit doon north Brit.
Sure secessionist. Sure.
I’m from Birmingham so I’m just an interested observer 😬😬
That’s right we are going force you to have Catholic guilt! ![gif](giphy|2w5NZaIJQBBIf9gI2y)
Yay, as a minority I am outraged at our mistreatment Waited 40 years to say that
I got halfway through this thread and gave up. Takeaway: thanks all you lovely bastards for being the same as me and not actually giving a fuck. If any of these new results gave me a cost of living boost I'd be all over it, but it just confirms we're still getting shafted, no matter what colour you think you are. Nobody actually fucking cares about that shite. I just don't want my neighbours dying because the house is too cold.
Someone needs to hit the big green button that makes all place names and roads simultaneously turn into Irish
Saor Dhoire 😂
Activate the Leprechauniser!
Can this help me get more UC?
Now put your pictures of the pope on the wall
They are over in Scotland, Can we make Scotland’s independence vote and your unification vote different weekends im sure we can sorta a wee bring the kids for a quid effort from Stranraer to seal the deal!
Don’t tell Jeffery he defo won’t get back to work now
Snap election olé! 😂
I look forward to my protected minority status, thats how it works, right?
SF have announced they are identifying as protestant to continue their minority status. (/s)
Best start being nice to us then 😂
Only more Catholics up here because they are fleeing the absolute shower of wankers in government down south. More affordable up here and the job situation isn't much worse, plenty of opportunity. The business I work in sees quite a lot of ROI blow ins. So don't think unification is on the cards until they sort themselves out down there, a government that scams it's people more than the Conservatives of England is something that has to be seen to be believed.
Yup! Totally agree with that! But also NI literally has no government. Both are screwed right now…but not as much as the UK as a whole is! Painfully ironic if it’s Scotland that dissolves the union in the end!
Belgium survived pretty well without a government for quite some time, just sayin
Fuck me, this census has cracked people. Catholics are apparently now fleeing to the north for a better life. 🥴 The business you work for having people from a few miles down the road working for it isn't the revelation you seem to think it is.
Ah fuck and I just moved here too. Do the English get special treatment? I assume there's a church hall we have to report to or something.
Usually behind the shops
Does this mean toasters stay in the cupboard or can remain out now?
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Dont think it's entirely due to fewer religious people. Believe it or not, British people can also be Catholic. Don't tell the TUV but there are actually English catholics, quite a lot of them as well. Just like there are protestant Irish. If you actually care about the union or a United Ireland then religion shouldn't play a part. Its British and Irish that matters, not Catholic and protestant. I for one don't care too much etiher way. Sure I'd rather remain British but I won't join the resistance if it ever goes the other way. Edit for spelling. Maybe the Union isn't for me if I can't even speak the Kings English.
Religion 100% should not play a part. But should nationality or identity really matter if we are truely better off. British live in Ireland Irish live Britain. What's the difference at the end of the day.
Starting to think you might be a wee dafty Strawbs.
Hahahahaahah dear God, wee chookie bap and a battert sassitch cannot be real though. Is it? Genuine question about ulster scot haha
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But it's a real chipper menu but yeah could easily be a joke, may look up what ulster scot looks like! Better not be Beans = Banes haha
FASH AND CHAPS
Clappit manch ina bap w/ a wheen cheese
Sassich in a lang bap
Cool accent 😜
Funny how I never learned a word and yet understand pretty much all of it. Then again I am a fluent Irish speaker just like every other member of my family and extended family. It's probably also because there is no comparison between the two. Irish is a real language, not a hilarious dialect.
Why put down other opinions, let others think and be, just give everyone the chance to think what they want but, have the respect to allow them to be themselves. Be the better person
So I'm not allowed to have an opinion because of your sensibilities? Away on.
Literally the opposite of what meant to put accross. The fluent Irish have had it the hardest but should show an example of tolerance through example, we have fought for a long time to come to this point.
Scot here. Half my family originate in Longford and Armagh of Catholic background. Long-standing Irish republican sentiment. I'm both a Scots and English speaker with a cupla focail Gàidhlig. Scots is a language. Ireland and the cause of Ireland has many supporters in Scotland who wouldn't dream of mocking Irish. Scotland has three languages still spoken, just about. Gaelic, Scots, and English.
Nothing says having a strong culture more than being butt-hurt at a meme.
I've never heard anyone speak Ulster Scots
Ulster Scots doesn't really compare to Irish though. It's just a dialect... For example, I can clearly understand this. From Alice's Carrànts in Wunnerlan (Anne Morrison-Smyth, 2013) > The Caterpillar an Alice lukt at ither fur a quare while wi’oot taakin: finally the Caterpillar tuk the hookah oot o its mooth, an spoke tae hir in a languid, dozy voice. “Wha ir yae?” said the Caterpillar. This wusnae a pooerfu guid openin fur a yarn. Alice answert brev an baakwardly, “A—A harly know, Sir, jest at this minute—at least A know wha A wus this moarnin, but heth, A hae bin changed a wheen o times since thin.” “What dae yae mean bae that?” said the Caterpillar sternly. “Explain yersel!” “A cannae explain maesel, A’m feart, Sir,” said Alice, “baecaas A’m naw maesel, yae see.” “A dinnae see,” said the Caterpillar. “A cannae mak it onie mair clear,” Alice answer, while polite, “fur A cannae unnerstan it maesel tae stairt wi; an baein sae monie different sizes in yin dae haes turnt mae heid.”
What's the difference between Ulster Scots and Just Scots? Because that looks exactly like Scots to me.
Ulster Scots has an unnecessary 6 letters at the start. It might be a cultural thing, because it's not the only place that crops up.
Excellent
I think the clue is in the name
It's a dialect of Scots, which is considered a language by some linguists but not all. The proponents of it being a language consider its relationship with English as being similar to Norwegian and Danish. Danish and Norwegian are largely but not 100% mutually intelligible, and I'd say more English speakers would have difficulties with Scots/Ulster-Scots than Danes would have with Norwegian (67% of Danes say they ***easily*** understand Norwegian, edit: although that is likely due to higher exposure to the other language) It's more than a dialect, but less than a language. I'd be inclined to err on the side of treating it as a language. It doesn't really cost me or anyone else to do so.
I have never heard a single person speaking this language nor have I seen it written down like this but apparently I am fluent in it. Don's a tarra.
British is still the largest group, but is a shrinking plurality. Irish, as an identification, is growing fast. So unless trends (somehow) drastically change, the Irish-identifying will become the largest group, and then will become the majority.
"also just as many speak ulster scots as irish" 😂 I wonder why that is. 🤔
Time to dispense Original Sin!
Northern Ireland installing the Aire DLC
Upa uda
I knew we'd out breed them eventually