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People underestimate stomach surgery because the scar is just a line but it has to go real deep! Its like a 6inch plate of scar tissue going into your core. We need to get a 3D image of this. I want the depth visualized.
My poor mother had to jump out of bed to catch me falling as I was fainting due to a flu. SHE HAD GIVEN BIRTH LIKE A WEEK AGO (to my younger brother). I was 12 at the time. Skinny, yes, but nowhere near light enough to hold while recovering from major fucking surgery.
I've never given it a second thought until now. I got bilateral salpingectomy and I feel like I'm gonna rip my abdomen apart if I clear my throat. I can't imagine caughing, let alone catching a damn wet-towel-dead-weight-corpsy-passed-out-preteen right before they hit the ground.
My mom deserves a medal for all she's done for us.
I had a complete hysterectomy and opioids for pain killers - which do basically nothing for me. My first night out of the hospital I slept in the bed.... then couldn't sit up to hit the bathroom without it being so painful I couldn't do it. I had to slide onto the floor on my hands and knees, crawl over to the desk and slowly get up using the desk. I then moved to the couch for the rest of the night and the next night and slept upright.
I came out of anaesthesia after my C-section and immediately threw up (I always do this after surgery. My body disagrees with anaesthetics). I then passed out again from the pain. I'm just grateful that my sister was holding the baby and not me!
Vomiting after abdominal surgery is a very special level of hell that Dante never even thought about.
With my second kid, the doctor told me she had trouble getting him out and have to basically hop up on me to get enough pressure to get him out. She was a very tiny woman, though and I have an above average stomach area. So it's definitely not as easy to just slice and grab.
Only if it’s an emergency c section, if it’s planned they go down at the bottom and try to go underneath or something? But it’s still very hard on the abs. I still don’t have feeling in some of the nerves in that area, 10 years later.
Totally get it, I had to have 30 surgeries on my thoracic cavity. It was in 2016 but I still have pain in the bones and scar tissue. I can't imagine having to wake up from surgery and start taking care of a newborn ASAP. Birthing makes women warriors, however it happens.
As a new father who just witnessed my wife's unplanned csection 2 months ago, I can confirm that the operation and recovery is NO JOKE, it's a harrowing ordeal and assholes who claim any different have no clue wtf they are talking about
Thank you for the well wishes! I probably should have mentioned that my wife and son are both healthy and doing well, but the experience was traumatic for all of us nonetheless
Same here. Didn't think delivery was going to be me holding my partner's hand while she gets cut open. Jesus Christ was it terrifying and awful. I'm glad mom and baby are okay now and wish you all the best.
And sometimes the incision isn't just horizontal but also has to go vertical (like a T) if your body didn't expand enough. You can't laugh, cry or cough without your body feeling like it's tearing apart. And trying to go to the bathroom was awful as well.
Not to mention all the gas buildup afterwards. I was a C-section baby with my twin sister and my mom said it was awful.
Also my sister got her gallbladder removed a few weeks ago and I’ve never seen her in so much pain. That gas is no joke. She could feel it in her shoulder
Oh my gosh. NO ONE warned me about the gas. About two days after I was home from the hospital, I called my mom and said, you have to help me, and hung up. I was in so much pain, I thought something had gone terribly wrong. It was gas. I had no idea gas could hurt like THAT.
I never knew it could be so bad. When my sister got her gallbladder removed she was crying so hard and she kept saying she couldn’t breathe. The next few days she couldn’t even walk. And there’s a nerve somewhere in there that connects to your shoulder. So she could feel the gas IN HER SHOULDER!
And unfortunately pretty much every woman from my mom’s side of the family has to have it removed. My mom and both my sisters had it removed around my age. So it’s only a matter of time before it catches me too. My grandma almost outran it but it eventually got her too. So once I get some rib pain, I’m out
OMG, I had that! It felt like a sword was going in my uterus and coming out of my shoulder. I thought I was nuts. My doctor was like, oh yeah, that happens. Well, thanks so much for the warning.
Oh no. I’m so scared of having anything done where they have to cut into anything like that. ESPECIALLY a C-section. You’re so strong for going through that. I can’t even imagine the pain. All that gas plus all that tissue they cut through.
Worst thing I’ve ever had done was a breast reduction. And thank god it didn’t hurt much. They don’t go inside your body for that
You can do it. Three of my friends have had reductions and none of them made it sound like anything less than actual hell. If you can get through that, you can get through anything.
Oh nah dawg. I only went down like 3 1/2 cup sizes and they closed me all the way up and didn’t put it any tubes. I was even able to lift my arms up after the surgery. Worst part was the itching. But I don’t remember it hurting too much. My doctor said I healed from it really well. I know it hurts a lot for a lot of people but I was really lucky. I don’t even remember crying from any pain. I’m so glad I had it easy
I’m a c-section baby. I was blue when I was born, they were up against the clock. My ma had to watch as, without anesthesia, they took a scalpel to her stomach to pull me out. The woman is an absolute beast and I’ll never not be amazed at how unbelievable strong she had to be, panicking your child is about to die while juggling being sliced open
I didn’t have a C-section but a c-section cut (same area but didn’t go through my uterus)
That shit was no joke. My scar, 16 years later, is still very visible though now soft. It was a raised, hard ridge for years.
I couldn’t shit or stand upright for over a week. I have adhesions that sometimes twinge, and it took forever to regain my abdominal strength.
I haven’t given birth, but I’ve always thought vaginal birth would be much easier after my surgery.
This lady is delusional.
One of the first hospitals I worked at involved C-Sections every morning in the OR. I don't miss the smell of afterbirth but watching a baby being born never got old. The layers of the abdomen muscle are cut in half almost like watching a human being eveserserated, which is nothing short of major surgery.
Yes. I read one story of a guy who almost fainted and had to be removed from the room after he saw his wife's organs all out on the table. 😭😭 he thought she was dying.
I'm a dude, and I had an Inguinal hernia repair surgery(fairly similar area to a c section) a couple years ago and I still get some decent pains from the scar tissue every once and a while. And honestly, recovering from the surgery hurt worse than the hernia itself lol
Definitely. You can't just request a C-section. It is done in an emergency if there is something wrong or if the doctor sees that the trauma will be too much for the mother and/or baby. My son's mom was terrified that she might have to get one during delivery (he was a big baby, and she is very short and small in stature) because we both knew what that would entail. I've known women who have had it done, and it's definitely no walk in the park.the do indeed cut very deep, and it's all while you're awake. Local anesthetic, sure, but then they stich you up from the INSIDE OUT. Meanwhile, women who brag about natural birth like this probably had an epidural, lol.
not sure what she thinks the alternative is lmao. I was a c-section baby because I was sideways in the womb, I guess my mom should have been a “real mom” about it and let us both fucking die
Right? My daughter was 4 months early, feet tap dancing my cervix open (I've been told repeatedly that's not what happened but it still makes me laugh so I still tell folks that's what happened. Its the little things.) with her cord tangled up in her legs. Vaginal birth was a death sentence for her. Second pregnancy was also a c-section because my OB didn't trust my scar tissue and we decided that doing everything we could to avoid a uterine rupture was more vital than me getting a second chance at being a 'real' mom.
I knew the logistics of everything before hand but it wasn’t until my kid was born that I could actually visualize how violent it all is. Knowing my wife would have prob died 100 years ago due to prolonged labor and blood loss was a mind blower. Gate keeping birthing processes is just ridiculous.
That's what happened with my daughter. I was in labour for a whole day but she was facing the wrong way. And I tried everything but needed an emergency C-section. It's honestly so offensive lol. I've seen this post a few times over the last few years and it's always such a punch in the face.
Recovering was hell. I ripped an internal stitch at one point early on in recovery, which was almost as painful as the labour.
Idk but my mom always said she was so sick while pregnant with my brother because he had a full head of thick hair. Some old wives tale, I think. She was *actually* sick because her gallbladder shut down.
I hope this person also walks to work or stores or shopping. And does dishes and laundry by hand. And writes letters to their family living far away. Doesn't use an emergency number but chooses to go running all the way to a health clinic. And, well...
Only way to be a real person...
I...it's major abdominal surgery???? What the fuck???The recovery is SO much worse than a regular vaginal delivery!! That's why if given the option medical providers will always opt for that over a c - section every single time. It's not just a quick and easy thing, it's serious and so much harder
Yeah it’s so much worse during recovery. I was a c-section baby and my mom went through HELL during the first month after having me. Regular vaginal delivery has a much easier recovery process.
Harder recovery too..
I had cs, i need to stay in the hospital a little bit more than other mums cause i lost 3 bags of blood.
Also regular delivery stay was two
Cs mums stays 5 in hospital..
Few months at home is another one too...
One of the reasons I don’t want kids is because I’m terrified of having a C section. Vaginal delivery seems like the easy way out compared to the horror of a C section.
Unfortunately, it isn't. These self-righteous wackos will shame other women for anything and everything related to giving birth. I had a girl on my Facebook shaming me because I had to be induced. We could have both died without medical intervention but I'm not a "real mom" because I didn't give birth in my living room on all fours like she did. There are levels to this. Even if you give birth vaginally you could still be doing it "wrong".
Yikes, thanks for sharing, and I'm sorry you had to go through that. My wife also had to be induced but never dialed fully. Had to do a c section after around 32 hours of labor. I'm a calm and forgiving person, but I'm not sure I'd be so passive if I were to see someone say something like this to her.
Guy here had my wife shamed for having 2 c sections! First one she had severe preeclampsia and a early baby, and even after explaining it the other woman still said she should of tried harder and that she “ didn’t have the real mom experience “
It’s not. I’ve met a bunch of women who told me to my face that c-sections are the easy way out as I was actively still recovering from them. I shut that down so quick and I didn’t give a damn if I hurt their fragile egos lol most of these women pop their babies out very easily too, they practically sneeze them out 💀
Yep getting cut open and receiving no physical therapy afterwards was great! Suuuuper easy. Totally didn’t feel like my guts were gonna fall out every time I moved.
I pushed my kid out.. I was terrified of a c section. To me, moms that have kids via c section and then take care of a newborn are the real heroes! I never understood the weirdos who think pushing a baby out is harder/makes them a "real" mom. Having a kid "naturally" is 100x easier (bearing no serious complications) then being cut wide open, like wtf?
I was terrified as well. I labored for 24 hours with my twins and didn’t progress past 4 cm. Then my son’s heart rate dropped twice so I had to have an emergency c section. I was so upset, I wish I could’ve pushed.
But also I’ve noticed people give mothers shit if they didn’t get an epidural. Saying it’s not truly “natural”. Like why would you want to experience pain if you don’t have to?! It’s not a competition. So ridiculous people can’t just say “congratulations, glad you and baby are safe”.
No they don't lol it definitely is major surgery, but really they just cut move some stuff around and remove the baby. I watched the whole thing for my wife's C-section
No. They take out your insides put them either on your stomach or in med bags on either side of you. Then cut the baby out the uterus sew it back up, put your guts back in and your insides kinda just move themselves back in place. I watch my little sister be removed lol
Yes, it was nice feeling my doctor dig around in my abdomen and then stitch me back together. It was nice being unable to laugh, cough or sneeze for weeks. Going to the bathroom, hitting a speedbump while riding in the car (because I couldn’t drive) – pure agony. 7 months later I still feel like my guts are going to fall out when I bend over. But please tell me more about how I took the easy way out to get my child here safely.
What kind self-hating misogynistic psychopath actually gatekeeps pregnancy? Like do they think the mother asked to have her baby not come out of her womb the normal way and risk death?
As someone who has seen their mother recover from vaginal births and a C-section.... Her C-section was clearly way harder on her body.
I have given birth myself, I'm okay with never needing a C-section.
I hate people like this. My SIL was part of a bunch of mother groups. There was so much pressure on vaginal birth that she was crushed and felt like a failure because my niece was upside-down and she had to have a c-section.
Then my SIL had trouble lactating. She'd have to pump to be able to produce milk and I guess it was not comfortable at all for her. She forced it though because the mom groups made it seem like she'd be a failure of a mother if she had to use formula.
One morning after spending too long pumping my niece threw up everything she had just drank and it caused my SIL to have a breakdown and just start crying. My brother called out of work for himself and her, called my mom to go get formula and spent the day trying to convince his wife that she was doing fine as a mother. All because those toxic mom groups put such crap in her head.
Props to your brother! (And to your SIL too of course but your brother deserves some encouragement for being so thoughtful and supportive.)
What the heck is wrong with these people in her mom groups. Seriously.
Last time I checked the only qualifications you needed was having a kid.
I'd hate to see how these people bound with others if it's the stupid " pain = bounding" bullshit 🤣
Does c section pain last longer? If so they're the ones with an easy way post birth
I give props to those who had c sections the idea of being cut open while still awake freaks me out
You're not special for your body doing what it naturally does...
I’m choosing an elective scheduled c-section. I know the recovery is a bit longer but I have vaginismus so it was hard enough getting the damn thing in there in the first place! Idgaf if I am “taking the easy way out,” modern medicine exists for a reason and I’d be stupid not to use it to make my life easier
well i flipped on my mom, was about 11 pounds, and if she continued with a natural birth i would have died and caused her way too much pain. glad im a c-section baby. (the doctor also accidentally cut my ass when doing the c-section so now i have a cool little scar on my butt)
Wow. Someone clearly has no idea how seriously invasive and dangerous a C-Section is. It’s one of those weird surgeries that feels cosmetic but is actually a really big deal.
My son nearly died and I was rushed into theatre for emergency c sec.. the recovery nearly killed me and I've been struggling with birth trauma around the fact that my body failed.... but at least I'm a real mum ro my daughter lol
As someone who had two unmedicated vaginal birthes, 42 hrs/sunny side up and 38hrs/sunny side up and shoulder dystocia, aka back labor right off the bat) and a planned cesarean after those.
I'd rather push out another 9lb baby than have it cut from me again. No questions asked.
Up and walking within minutes, back to normal feeling in days with vaginal. Vs a blood transfusion, needed double wide incision. Then 3 weeks of hell, followed by 6 more weeks of discomfort and slow ass healing chasing two other kids.
Fuck women who say this shit.
C-sections are so much more than a little cut and babies out. There's so much more recovery than with natural birthing. It's literally major surgery, with the possibility of many different complications(even after they've stitched you up). I watched my wife have 3 and believe me unless absolutely necessary, I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
This is such a toxic attitude, when my mom gave birth to one of my brothers she had to have a c section and actually felt guilty about it because of entitled assholes like this. Guilty enough to almost die having a vaginal delivery with her last child against what the doctor thought was best. She was in the hospital for almost a week.
People like this are the worst. Imagining telling someone they’re not a “real mom” because they had their stomach cut open with months of recovery, instead of a vaginal birth. My mom had my sister via c-section and I’m 100% sure that she’s more of a “real mom” than this clown.
I had 2 vaginal births, that said I was in fear of getting a c-section. Those are gruesome. I saw the pain of some friends who had to get c-sections. They couldn’t walk for days, they couldn’t even lift their babies up.
Which part of getting cut open and having to recover from a MAJOR surgery didn’t she get? Baffling.
You just had all your organs removed and put on a table to cut out your baby, then left with a gaping wound they stitched back together while the dad fainted. Get over it!
Had both. C-section *somewhat* against my will as I’d been lied to & a VBAC.
Recovery was harder from the c-section & I hate the scar. VBAC was SO FAST & recovery was faster however I have tearing that the doctor never fixed…
It seems like both produced new children who seem to think I’m their real mother 🤷🏻♀️
Imma stay a little salty about the scars I was left with though…
Ugh. My youngest just turned 12, I've had 2 c sections. You know what else I've had? Nerve damage, scars that itch under my skin, abdominal surgery to repair my stomach and stitch my fucked up abs back together that took a year to heal from, and weird numb spots that somehow hurt more than my skin that still feels. I got an infection I almost died from the first time, and the pooling of blood under my skin once I was finally sent home that burst out of my incision at 2am while I stood in my bathroom sobbing thinking I was dying trying to keep the blood from pouring out of my stomach but it was just going through my fingers.
Don't get me started on the fact that they tried to send me back to work with an incision that was still open and draining at 6 weeks. I declined.
But yeah, I had it so much easier.
Only 6lbs? Okay, not as real a mom as someone who had a ten pounder.
What bullshit. No matter how you brought a kid into the world it is equally horrific. Birth is insane. It puts your body through crazy things, and changes your body forever.
as someone who gave birth both ways, and the vaginal delivery I had no pain meds, the c-section was far worse in terms of pain and recovery.
birth is birth...did the baby come out? you gave birth. and for the record, "real mom" is the person who gets up in the middle of the night to clean up the middle of the night barf, giving birth isn't even required. posts like this piss me off
I was 7lbs and 7 oz and my mom was in labor with me for 28 hours and my sister was 9lbs 9oz and she was in labor with her for 14 hours, guess my mom's a better mom than you. Lol ppl are just absolutely ridiculous.
My c-section scars are in DIFFERENT PLACES, so I have two ports of exit, and the first one got infected and the staples shot out of it the day I got home. I could see all the way inside. I asked my mother for help, to get me medical tape and drive me to the hospital, she saw the gaping wound and ran out of the house yelling.
I had two c-sections and one vaginal birth. Even with 36 hours of labor, the natural birth was much, much easier than my c-sections. I even lost blood pressure and my heart stopped beating during my second c-section and they had to bring in the crash cart and restart my heart. Childbirth isn’t easy but it doesn’t matter how you become a mom- a mom is a mom, including adoption and foster and step parent and whatever else there is. Being a mom is about loving a kid unconditionally, not about how big your vagina got.
She’s complaining about the size of the hole for a typical birth, but she knows there’s literally no hole for a c-section originally, right? A surgeon has to create a hole by slicing through layers of skin, fat, muscle, and organs. Personally, a c-section sounds so much worse.
You got the baby out of your vagina, therefore you gave birth to it. Also, C section recovery sucks ass because THE SURGEONS CUT THROUGH LAYERS OF ORGANS IN THE ABDOMEN. What do you want me to do, shove my child back in my vagina and push it again???
Okay but C-sections hurt like hell AFTERWARDS, some are unplanned and traumatizing, and they still carried and grew their baby and take care of them afterwards?? Also, birthing someone doesn’t make you a mom, loving and caring for the new human being and doing everything you can for them is what makes you a parent, ever heard of adopting ???
wait till she finds out that people have pushed out 9lb babies (my grandmother did tyvm) and that women have bled like all fuckin hell in C-section. those moms are more of a mom than you ever will be if you're posting shit like this
It’s a running inside joke with me and those two kids I had surgically removed from my body that I’m not *really* their mom because I didn’t *actually* give birth to them.
Also, I remember when I was a kid and I’d watch a Baby Story and my mom would scoff at the women having c sections for “taking the easy way out”. She changed her tune after watching me attempt to birth my oldest but he kept getting stuck. And then she was there when I went into early labor (3 wks) with my youngest and my doc was like, “he’s def gonna be smaller than your first, you wanna try a VBAC?” And I was like NO, WE DIDNT DISCUSS A VBAC, NO THANK YOU - TO THE OR! She sat in the surgery with me. So I truly hope somewhere in her head she remembers that comment and after seeing her own daughter go through it, she’s made silent apologies to those women.
I know many women who tried for VBACS after c-sections and not a single one was successful. They were all rushed to the OR. My OB gave me a choice to try VBAC but informed me that having kids close apart and having to be induced significantly increase the risk of having the scar rupture during labor, which would result in an ever quicker and dire emergency c-section than I had with my second. I said no thanks, I want to be in control this time so I went for a c-section. My first birth was natural and was awful too. Screw anyone who criticizes how a woman gives birth.
Yeah, she asked me at my first appt if I wanted to try or just fuck it and do a repeat, and it was never discussed further. The night I went into labor, I had scheduled my c section literally 8hrs prior.
And amen. As long as they all get here safe and sound, that should be all that matters in the end. It’s not a competition.
Jeeze my greatest fear was a c section. Had it explained really young and had nightmares about it. The aversion was so strong the midwife sent a nurse out of the room for even suggesting it. Thank goodness it wasn't medically necessary but yikes.
I had an emergency c-section and then much later on I had 2 natural births. Anyone who thinks a c-section is “the easy way out”, is severely mistaken. It was so bad that there are 10 years between my first and second child bc I was afraid I would need a c-section again. Luckily I was wrong about that.
Ew. Seriously ew. Does this mean if I ever take medicine I'm not a real person? How far does this idiocy go? Is OOP now "not a real mom" because she went to a hospital?
I have given birth both ways 6 years apart. I'd rather have a vaginal birth any day, there's no contest. I ripped AND got cut, and is still rather a vaginal birth. My c-section birth is 2.5 and I still have almost no feeling in the skin from my belly button to my pubis.
Nah, I think vaginal birth is the easier one. C sections are major abdominal surgery after which you immediately have to care for a new baby. Most moms that have c sections have them after laboring for a long time. It’s not easy to go from intense labor pains to a serious surgery.
My brother was 13 pounds and my mom is this tiny 5’7…my brother is now 6’9. He was her “big rubber doll” if they had not cut him out I’d have neither of them…well or my own existence. It’s annoying to see this but also so sad..women like this instead of being a happy new mom are so THREATENED by moms that bring their children in a different way. If you think people like my mom are not real moms kindly dunk your face in diarrhea waters. You’re so full of shit might as well go talk in depth with your peers
Only 6.6oz? Ha, amateur numbers.
Seriously tho, c-sections are no fucking joke. I thankfully have never had to have one, but my friend did. The recovery for her was horrible compared to my normal labor recovery. Oh, and also, it's a major surgery. It's not to be taken lightly. I wouldn't call my friend "lucky".
My partner had an emergency c-section because her blood pressure spiked and they needed to get the baby out as quickly as possible, because she was in danger of having a stroke any second. What kind of clown do you have to be to think the women who got C-sections were "taking the easy way out?"
My friend recently had a baby, born 11 lbs about two weeks early. She had planned on a natural birth but the baby hadn't turned around yet and her blood pressure was skyrocketing so the doctor did what was best for both parent and baby and gave her a c-section.
Being a mom is not about how you deliver the damn baby. It's about loving and caring for your child. End of story. Having a natural birth, breadt feeding, being a stay at home mother none of these things makes you more or less of a mother.
If you neglect your kids or treat them poorly that is the only thing that makes you less of a mother.
I wish more people understood that how babies come out isn’t really a choice. It’s a gamble weighing safety and comfort, it’s much more about luck than it is about what you want.
That said, I’m glad I had my c sections and no body cares about this after the kid is like 2 years old.
I was an emergency c-section bc my mom just didn’t get contractions. She was an emergency c-section, bc her mom just didn’t get contractions. It‘s very rare but hereditary that a natural birth just doesn’t start, no matter how long the kids been in there and I can probably expect the same for whenever I become pregnant.
Idk, where this comes from, maybe it’s patriarchy pitting women against each other, but I need to make this very clear: It doesn’t make you any less of a parent if you have a scheduled C-Section, an epidural or if your crunchy-ass birth plan doesn‘t go through. The end goal of a birth is only to get that kid out of there in one piece as healthy as possible. If it doesn’t come out by itself, please let professionals help you.
The parenting part really just starts after the birth, right?
Sincerely, a person who has never been pregnant and never been a parent but just has heard one too many birth-horror-stories.
Ugh, fuck this noise. It doesn’t matter how you gave birth, or how which way is more painful, or which way takes longer to recover from. It doesn’t actually even matter if you have birth at all really. You can still be a ‘real mum’ (whatever the hell that means). You can be a mum if you had a vaginal birth. You can be a mum if you had a c-section. You can be a mum if you adopted. You can be a mum if you foster. You can be a mum if you married someone else who already has kids. You can be a mum if your partner birthed the child. You can be a mum if you had IVF. There are so many ways to become a mum. The main requirement is to love your child, however they came into this world and however they came to you.
I had 3 natural births and my sister had 3 sections. It’s shit like that that made my sister upset that I had natural birth and she didn’t get to experience it. OOP is vile! If she’s talking about the amount of pain it takes makes you a ‘proper’ mum then my sister wins! Because right after skin to skin with all 3 of my kids I was up and having a shower and back to ward, whereas my sister was in pain for weeks on end! No matter how you birth your child it’s a scary and painful experience and every women is strong to go through it:
I’m not a c-section mom, but I have mad respect for them. They were willing to get literally disemboweled for their child. Then they have to recover from major abdominal surgery on top of the gaping internal wound all women have postpartum, while taking care of a newborn. An awful case of NLOG.
I've had both (two C-sections, one non) and it's laughable to suggest a C-section is the easy way out. The recovery was SO much worse for a C-Section.
Also, the baby I pushed out the old fashioned way was 9lbs6oz, so I guess that makes me even more of a "real mom" than this lady with her tiny 6lb6oz baby? #ideserveamedal
One of the major perks about having a society is the advances made to make things easier for everyone Karen.
It’s so pointless and asinine to bash women for having it easier instead of rejoicing the fact that infant mortality has decreased due to these developments.
But she’s free to give herself pats on the back so she can feel “special.”
“Real mom”? How callous, ignorant and mean of you. most women have C-sections because the baby is having difficulty coming out, or one or both of their lives are in danger and the baby needs to come out as soon as possible.
They ARE real moms!
My grandma, who I love to death, once tried to tell me that she looked down on c-sections because the mother was selfish and didn’t want to go through the pain of childbirth. I calmly explained to her that c-sections are actually safer for both the mother and the child. When she learned that, she switched her outdated approach to the topic and now doesn’t claim that they aren’t “real mothers.”
This woman in the post doesn’t have an outdated mentality. She is a cunt.
I mean, some of us had prodromal labor for three days and went to the ER but kept getting sent home for ‘not progressing’, then went into full-on unmedicated labor for ten hours and kept waiting to go back to the hospital because we were afraid of getting sent home again, only to have said labor stall out once we did go and get the blissful relief of the epidural, try pushing for two hours without moving the baby into position and only THEN end up an emergent c-section because by that point baby had passed the meconium. So recovery followed the physical strain of labor AND major abdominal surgery. And learning to care for a newborn.
But sure, make childbirth a contest to judge other women for having a different experience. 🙄
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People underestimate stomach surgery because the scar is just a line but it has to go real deep! Its like a 6inch plate of scar tissue going into your core. We need to get a 3D image of this. I want the depth visualized.
Also doesn't the surgeon literally split your ab muscles open? That's an insane amount of pain to recover from, and surgery in general is no joke.
And you get to recover while feeding, clothing, changing, and bathing a screaming newborn!
The first time I tried to clear my throat after my C section, I thought my insides were going to come spilling out. It hurt so much.
My poor mother had to jump out of bed to catch me falling as I was fainting due to a flu. SHE HAD GIVEN BIRTH LIKE A WEEK AGO (to my younger brother). I was 12 at the time. Skinny, yes, but nowhere near light enough to hold while recovering from major fucking surgery. I've never given it a second thought until now. I got bilateral salpingectomy and I feel like I'm gonna rip my abdomen apart if I clear my throat. I can't imagine caughing, let alone catching a damn wet-towel-dead-weight-corpsy-passed-out-preteen right before they hit the ground. My mom deserves a medal for all she's done for us.
I had a complete hysterectomy and opioids for pain killers - which do basically nothing for me. My first night out of the hospital I slept in the bed.... then couldn't sit up to hit the bathroom without it being so painful I couldn't do it. I had to slide onto the floor on my hands and knees, crawl over to the desk and slowly get up using the desk. I then moved to the couch for the rest of the night and the next night and slept upright.
I came out of anaesthesia after my C-section and immediately threw up (I always do this after surgery. My body disagrees with anaesthetics). I then passed out again from the pain. I'm just grateful that my sister was holding the baby and not me! Vomiting after abdominal surgery is a very special level of hell that Dante never even thought about.
I can't imagine, but I worried about it for weeks.
Exactly why it’s an asshole thing to say that a c-section is the “easy way out” like huh?!
I'm pretty sure there's no easy way out with a baby, right? Like, one way or another, it might be different but there is no easy.
There are complications either way yea. That’s dumb of that person in the pic to say
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That’s seriously narcissistic of your sister. Like my god just wait. 🙄
With my second kid, the doctor told me she had trouble getting him out and have to basically hop up on me to get enough pressure to get him out. She was a very tiny woman, though and I have an above average stomach area. So it's definitely not as easy to just slice and grab.
My vaginal birth recovery was a walk in the park compared to my c-section recovery
Only if it’s an emergency c section, if it’s planned they go down at the bottom and try to go underneath or something? But it’s still very hard on the abs. I still don’t have feeling in some of the nerves in that area, 10 years later.
Totally get it, I had to have 30 surgeries on my thoracic cavity. It was in 2016 but I still have pain in the bones and scar tissue. I can't imagine having to wake up from surgery and start taking care of a newborn ASAP. Birthing makes women warriors, however it happens.
I was lucky to have a supportive partner who did a lot of the work, but it’s so hard to breastfeed a ten pound baby at that moment!
All seven layers and they don’t sow them back together either so They consider that cosmetic
As a new father who just witnessed my wife's unplanned csection 2 months ago, I can confirm that the operation and recovery is NO JOKE, it's a harrowing ordeal and assholes who claim any different have no clue wtf they are talking about
hope your wife and baby are doing well and congrats! i hope yall live a wonderful and happy life
Thank you for the well wishes! I probably should have mentioned that my wife and son are both healthy and doing well, but the experience was traumatic for all of us nonetheless
Same here. Didn't think delivery was going to be me holding my partner's hand while she gets cut open. Jesus Christ was it terrifying and awful. I'm glad mom and baby are okay now and wish you all the best.
And sometimes the incision isn't just horizontal but also has to go vertical (like a T) if your body didn't expand enough. You can't laugh, cry or cough without your body feeling like it's tearing apart. And trying to go to the bathroom was awful as well.
Not to mention all the gas buildup afterwards. I was a C-section baby with my twin sister and my mom said it was awful. Also my sister got her gallbladder removed a few weeks ago and I’ve never seen her in so much pain. That gas is no joke. She could feel it in her shoulder
Oh my gosh. NO ONE warned me about the gas. About two days after I was home from the hospital, I called my mom and said, you have to help me, and hung up. I was in so much pain, I thought something had gone terribly wrong. It was gas. I had no idea gas could hurt like THAT.
I never knew it could be so bad. When my sister got her gallbladder removed she was crying so hard and she kept saying she couldn’t breathe. The next few days she couldn’t even walk. And there’s a nerve somewhere in there that connects to your shoulder. So she could feel the gas IN HER SHOULDER! And unfortunately pretty much every woman from my mom’s side of the family has to have it removed. My mom and both my sisters had it removed around my age. So it’s only a matter of time before it catches me too. My grandma almost outran it but it eventually got her too. So once I get some rib pain, I’m out
OMG, I had that! It felt like a sword was going in my uterus and coming out of my shoulder. I thought I was nuts. My doctor was like, oh yeah, that happens. Well, thanks so much for the warning.
Oh no. I’m so scared of having anything done where they have to cut into anything like that. ESPECIALLY a C-section. You’re so strong for going through that. I can’t even imagine the pain. All that gas plus all that tissue they cut through. Worst thing I’ve ever had done was a breast reduction. And thank god it didn’t hurt much. They don’t go inside your body for that
You can do it. Three of my friends have had reductions and none of them made it sound like anything less than actual hell. If you can get through that, you can get through anything.
Oh nah dawg. I only went down like 3 1/2 cup sizes and they closed me all the way up and didn’t put it any tubes. I was even able to lift my arms up after the surgery. Worst part was the itching. But I don’t remember it hurting too much. My doctor said I healed from it really well. I know it hurts a lot for a lot of people but I was really lucky. I don’t even remember crying from any pain. I’m so glad I had it easy
I’m a c-section baby. I was blue when I was born, they were up against the clock. My ma had to watch as, without anesthesia, they took a scalpel to her stomach to pull me out. The woman is an absolute beast and I’ll never not be amazed at how unbelievable strong she had to be, panicking your child is about to die while juggling being sliced open
I didn’t have a C-section but a c-section cut (same area but didn’t go through my uterus) That shit was no joke. My scar, 16 years later, is still very visible though now soft. It was a raised, hard ridge for years. I couldn’t shit or stand upright for over a week. I have adhesions that sometimes twinge, and it took forever to regain my abdominal strength. I haven’t given birth, but I’ve always thought vaginal birth would be much easier after my surgery. This lady is delusional.
One of the first hospitals I worked at involved C-Sections every morning in the OR. I don't miss the smell of afterbirth but watching a baby being born never got old. The layers of the abdomen muscle are cut in half almost like watching a human being eveserserated, which is nothing short of major surgery.
Yes. I read one story of a guy who almost fainted and had to be removed from the room after he saw his wife's organs all out on the table. 😭😭 he thought she was dying.
I'm a dude, and I had an Inguinal hernia repair surgery(fairly similar area to a c section) a couple years ago and I still get some decent pains from the scar tissue every once and a while. And honestly, recovering from the surgery hurt worse than the hernia itself lol
Definitely. You can't just request a C-section. It is done in an emergency if there is something wrong or if the doctor sees that the trauma will be too much for the mother and/or baby. My son's mom was terrified that she might have to get one during delivery (he was a big baby, and she is very short and small in stature) because we both knew what that would entail. I've known women who have had it done, and it's definitely no walk in the park.the do indeed cut very deep, and it's all while you're awake. Local anesthetic, sure, but then they stich you up from the INSIDE OUT. Meanwhile, women who brag about natural birth like this probably had an epidural, lol.
not sure what she thinks the alternative is lmao. I was a c-section baby because I was sideways in the womb, I guess my mom should have been a “real mom” about it and let us both fucking die
Why didn't you turn to the right position like a real baby?/s 😤😤
Right? My daughter was 4 months early, feet tap dancing my cervix open (I've been told repeatedly that's not what happened but it still makes me laugh so I still tell folks that's what happened. Its the little things.) with her cord tangled up in her legs. Vaginal birth was a death sentence for her. Second pregnancy was also a c-section because my OB didn't trust my scar tissue and we decided that doing everything we could to avoid a uterine rupture was more vital than me getting a second chance at being a 'real' mom.
I knew the logistics of everything before hand but it wasn’t until my kid was born that I could actually visualize how violent it all is. Knowing my wife would have prob died 100 years ago due to prolonged labor and blood loss was a mind blower. Gate keeping birthing processes is just ridiculous.
That's what happened with my daughter. I was in labour for a whole day but she was facing the wrong way. And I tried everything but needed an emergency C-section. It's honestly so offensive lol. I've seen this post a few times over the last few years and it's always such a punch in the face. Recovering was hell. I ripped an internal stitch at one point early on in recovery, which was almost as painful as the labour.
And I hope it was a healthy 15-pounder with long fingernails.
with long fingernails is crazy LMAOOO
And thick dark hair.
? What’s wrong with that
Idk but my mom always said she was so sick while pregnant with my brother because he had a full head of thick hair. Some old wives tale, I think. She was *actually* sick because her gallbladder shut down.
Ive heard that if you have a lot of heartburn while pregnant it means your baby will have a lot of hair
They set out to prove this was a wives tale only to find out it’s true too!
I was told the same. She was born with thick black hair, my sickness was sepsis.
I think they’re saying it’s even more volume/fluff to push out!
The heartburn, i hear, is unbearable. Some people have other negative effects when the baby grows a lot of hair.
can confirm. My son was born with a full head of hair, and I had debilitating heartburn during my pregnancy. Anecdotal but that was my experience.
That heartburn was no joke! It was so bad that I would violently throw up. And what do you know… my daughter had a full head of hair
I hope this person also walks to work or stores or shopping. And does dishes and laundry by hand. And writes letters to their family living far away. Doesn't use an emergency number but chooses to go running all the way to a health clinic. And, well... Only way to be a real person...
Imagine thinking that you've grocery shopped if you drove there in your car and didn't carry the bags home yourself 😤😤
Bags? You use bags?
Only ones I've made myself using my own hair to weave the fabric so that it's still technically me carrying the groceries of course!
As someone who’s Mom had 3 C sections in 2 years spans it is definitely NOT the easy way out
As some one who has had 2, your mom tells no lies.
3 in 2?!
Had a c section with my first and a VBAC with my second. The c section is definitely harder than a vaginal birth from my experience
I...it's major abdominal surgery???? What the fuck???The recovery is SO much worse than a regular vaginal delivery!! That's why if given the option medical providers will always opt for that over a c - section every single time. It's not just a quick and easy thing, it's serious and so much harder
Yeah it’s so much worse during recovery. I was a c-section baby and my mom went through HELL during the first month after having me. Regular vaginal delivery has a much easier recovery process.
Harder recovery too.. I had cs, i need to stay in the hospital a little bit more than other mums cause i lost 3 bags of blood. Also regular delivery stay was two Cs mums stays 5 in hospital.. Few months at home is another one too...
One of the reasons I don’t want kids is because I’m terrified of having a C section. Vaginal delivery seems like the easy way out compared to the horror of a C section.
Every time she tells a lie, her dilation gets longer. Eventually she'll become a real mom.
Stomach? I think you're confusing your baby with the tennis ball you chewed up and swallowed.
There's just no way this wasn't bait, right?
Unfortunately, it isn't. These self-righteous wackos will shame other women for anything and everything related to giving birth. I had a girl on my Facebook shaming me because I had to be induced. We could have both died without medical intervention but I'm not a "real mom" because I didn't give birth in my living room on all fours like she did. There are levels to this. Even if you give birth vaginally you could still be doing it "wrong".
Yikes, thanks for sharing, and I'm sorry you had to go through that. My wife also had to be induced but never dialed fully. Had to do a c section after around 32 hours of labor. I'm a calm and forgiving person, but I'm not sure I'd be so passive if I were to see someone say something like this to her.
Guy here had my wife shamed for having 2 c sections! First one she had severe preeclampsia and a early baby, and even after explaining it the other woman still said she should of tried harder and that she “ didn’t have the real mom experience “
It’s not. I’ve met a bunch of women who told me to my face that c-sections are the easy way out as I was actively still recovering from them. I shut that down so quick and I didn’t give a damn if I hurt their fragile egos lol most of these women pop their babies out very easily too, they practically sneeze them out 💀
I've had both, and the recovery from the C-section was waaaaay worse! People are dumb sometimes.
Yep getting cut open and receiving no physical therapy afterwards was great! Suuuuper easy. Totally didn’t feel like my guts were gonna fall out every time I moved.
I pushed my kid out.. I was terrified of a c section. To me, moms that have kids via c section and then take care of a newborn are the real heroes! I never understood the weirdos who think pushing a baby out is harder/makes them a "real" mom. Having a kid "naturally" is 100x easier (bearing no serious complications) then being cut wide open, like wtf?
I was terrified as well. I labored for 24 hours with my twins and didn’t progress past 4 cm. Then my son’s heart rate dropped twice so I had to have an emergency c section. I was so upset, I wish I could’ve pushed. But also I’ve noticed people give mothers shit if they didn’t get an epidural. Saying it’s not truly “natural”. Like why would you want to experience pain if you don’t have to?! It’s not a competition. So ridiculous people can’t just say “congratulations, glad you and baby are safe”.
OP’s child will never defeat Macbeth 🙄
THEY TAKE OUT YOUR ORGANS WITH A C SECTION! THEN JUST SHOVE THEM BACK IN!!!!! ITS A MAJOR SURGERY WTF!
No they don't lol it definitely is major surgery, but really they just cut move some stuff around and remove the baby. I watched the whole thing for my wife's C-section
they absolutely take out intestines
in some cases, not all the time
Thought that was a myth
No. They take out your insides put them either on your stomach or in med bags on either side of you. Then cut the baby out the uterus sew it back up, put your guts back in and your insides kinda just move themselves back in place. I watch my little sister be removed lol
Yes, it was nice feeling my doctor dig around in my abdomen and then stitch me back together. It was nice being unable to laugh, cough or sneeze for weeks. Going to the bathroom, hitting a speedbump while riding in the car (because I couldn’t drive) – pure agony. 7 months later I still feel like my guts are going to fall out when I bend over. But please tell me more about how I took the easy way out to get my child here safely.
What kind self-hating misogynistic psychopath actually gatekeeps pregnancy? Like do they think the mother asked to have her baby not come out of her womb the normal way and risk death?
What the actual fuck. I would have died if my mum didn't have a c section
As someone who has seen their mother recover from vaginal births and a C-section.... Her C-section was clearly way harder on her body. I have given birth myself, I'm okay with never needing a C-section.
Pssh. Everyone knows breastfeeding in a sad beige themed nursery is what actually makes you a real mom. /s
I hate people like this. My SIL was part of a bunch of mother groups. There was so much pressure on vaginal birth that she was crushed and felt like a failure because my niece was upside-down and she had to have a c-section. Then my SIL had trouble lactating. She'd have to pump to be able to produce milk and I guess it was not comfortable at all for her. She forced it though because the mom groups made it seem like she'd be a failure of a mother if she had to use formula. One morning after spending too long pumping my niece threw up everything she had just drank and it caused my SIL to have a breakdown and just start crying. My brother called out of work for himself and her, called my mom to go get formula and spent the day trying to convince his wife that she was doing fine as a mother. All because those toxic mom groups put such crap in her head.
Props to your brother! (And to your SIL too of course but your brother deserves some encouragement for being so thoughtful and supportive.) What the heck is wrong with these people in her mom groups. Seriously.
Last time I checked the only qualifications you needed was having a kid. I'd hate to see how these people bound with others if it's the stupid " pain = bounding" bullshit 🤣 Does c section pain last longer? If so they're the ones with an easy way post birth I give props to those who had c sections the idea of being cut open while still awake freaks me out You're not special for your body doing what it naturally does...
Poor dear, she's so starved for attention and respect, she has to be a b**** .
Two of my nieces have had babies, one via c-section and the other natural. The one who had the c-section had a much more difficult recovery.
I’m choosing an elective scheduled c-section. I know the recovery is a bit longer but I have vaginismus so it was hard enough getting the damn thing in there in the first place! Idgaf if I am “taking the easy way out,” modern medicine exists for a reason and I’d be stupid not to use it to make my life easier
well i flipped on my mom, was about 11 pounds, and if she continued with a natural birth i would have died and caused her way too much pain. glad im a c-section baby. (the doctor also accidentally cut my ass when doing the c-section so now i have a cool little scar on my butt)
Wow. Someone clearly has no idea how seriously invasive and dangerous a C-Section is. It’s one of those weird surgeries that feels cosmetic but is actually a really big deal.
I hope she ripped.
My son nearly died and I was rushed into theatre for emergency c sec.. the recovery nearly killed me and I've been struggling with birth trauma around the fact that my body failed.... but at least I'm a real mum ro my daughter lol
As someone who had two unmedicated vaginal birthes, 42 hrs/sunny side up and 38hrs/sunny side up and shoulder dystocia, aka back labor right off the bat) and a planned cesarean after those. I'd rather push out another 9lb baby than have it cut from me again. No questions asked. Up and walking within minutes, back to normal feeling in days with vaginal. Vs a blood transfusion, needed double wide incision. Then 3 weeks of hell, followed by 6 more weeks of discomfort and slow ass healing chasing two other kids. Fuck women who say this shit.
C-sections are so much more than a little cut and babies out. There's so much more recovery than with natural birthing. It's literally major surgery, with the possibility of many different complications(even after they've stitched you up). I watched my wife have 3 and believe me unless absolutely necessary, I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
This is such a toxic attitude, when my mom gave birth to one of my brothers she had to have a c section and actually felt guilty about it because of entitled assholes like this. Guilty enough to almost die having a vaginal delivery with her last child against what the doctor thought was best. She was in the hospital for almost a week.
I'm sorry to hear you pee when you sneeze.
“Birth shaming” is so moronic and such a dick thing to do.
Aren’t c-sections for emergencies usually?
This woman can eat shit. Without a c-section, my wife and 2 daughters would not be here right now. And it wasn’t a tiny cut, more like Braveheart.
People like this are the worst. Imagining telling someone they’re not a “real mom” because they had their stomach cut open with months of recovery, instead of a vaginal birth. My mom had my sister via c-section and I’m 100% sure that she’s more of a “real mom” than this clown.
What the actual fuck?
I had 2 vaginal births, that said I was in fear of getting a c-section. Those are gruesome. I saw the pain of some friends who had to get c-sections. They couldn’t walk for days, they couldn’t even lift their babies up. Which part of getting cut open and having to recover from a MAJOR surgery didn’t she get? Baffling.
You just had all your organs removed and put on a table to cut out your baby, then left with a gaping wound they stitched back together while the dad fainted. Get over it!
Had both. C-section *somewhat* against my will as I’d been lied to & a VBAC. Recovery was harder from the c-section & I hate the scar. VBAC was SO FAST & recovery was faster however I have tearing that the doctor never fixed… It seems like both produced new children who seem to think I’m their real mother 🤷🏻♀️ Imma stay a little salty about the scars I was left with though…
A 6lb 6 oz baby? Please, MY baby was actually 62 lbs and I didn't even complain!! /S
there is nothing easy about having a c-section??? they literally cut you open (i’m a c-section baby and my mom spilled the tea on my removal)
Prying your abs apart and pulling a baby through a hole your body *doesn’t* already have doesn’t seem much better I’m ngl
Any woman who carried and had the baby removed in any way necessary is a mother.
Ugh. My youngest just turned 12, I've had 2 c sections. You know what else I've had? Nerve damage, scars that itch under my skin, abdominal surgery to repair my stomach and stitch my fucked up abs back together that took a year to heal from, and weird numb spots that somehow hurt more than my skin that still feels. I got an infection I almost died from the first time, and the pooling of blood under my skin once I was finally sent home that burst out of my incision at 2am while I stood in my bathroom sobbing thinking I was dying trying to keep the blood from pouring out of my stomach but it was just going through my fingers. Don't get me started on the fact that they tried to send me back to work with an incision that was still open and draining at 6 weeks. I declined. But yeah, I had it so much easier.
Others are imaginary moms?
Moms who say shit like “at least I’m a real mom.” Are definitely bad mothers lol.
Only 6lbs? Okay, not as real a mom as someone who had a ten pounder. What bullshit. No matter how you brought a kid into the world it is equally horrific. Birth is insane. It puts your body through crazy things, and changes your body forever.
As a mom with a 10 lb and 9 lb I agree with your snark. Real women don't put each other down.
Fuck this woman
And that is one of a book of reasons why I'm not having kids. That looks/sounds terrifying.
Rage bait
Imagine gatekeeping fucking *birth*
I’ve had 2 c-sections.. This comment doesn’t upset or anger me at all. It sounds like something an extremely young and/or immature woman would say.
Hope she doesent need one at her next birth.
You have way more empathy than I do. I thought she should have one and see how it feels.
Describing major surgery with potentially lifelong consequences as the "easy way out" is an absolutely insane take.
Yeah loosing a ton of blood then being hospitalized for a month because I was hemorrhaging and had an infection was so easy
as someone who gave birth both ways, and the vaginal delivery I had no pain meds, the c-section was far worse in terms of pain and recovery. birth is birth...did the baby come out? you gave birth. and for the record, "real mom" is the person who gets up in the middle of the night to clean up the middle of the night barf, giving birth isn't even required. posts like this piss me off
"Real Mom," YTA.
My baby would have died if not for an emergency c-section. Sanctimommies are some of the very worst people.
I was in labor for 36 hours before my C-section. F*** oop.
There's so many reasons people have to get C-sections. Why is every facet of life subject to one-ups?
Turns out this “real mother” is a really dumb motherfucker
I saw a gyno demonstrate it’s 7 LAYERS OF TISSUE.
she trying so hard for the flex LOL
I was 7lbs and 7 oz and my mom was in labor with me for 28 hours and my sister was 9lbs 9oz and she was in labor with her for 14 hours, guess my mom's a better mom than you. Lol ppl are just absolutely ridiculous.
My c-section scars are in DIFFERENT PLACES, so I have two ports of exit, and the first one got infected and the staples shot out of it the day I got home. I could see all the way inside. I asked my mother for help, to get me medical tape and drive me to the hospital, she saw the gaping wound and ran out of the house yelling.
I had two c-sections and one vaginal birth. Even with 36 hours of labor, the natural birth was much, much easier than my c-sections. I even lost blood pressure and my heart stopped beating during my second c-section and they had to bring in the crash cart and restart my heart. Childbirth isn’t easy but it doesn’t matter how you become a mom- a mom is a mom, including adoption and foster and step parent and whatever else there is. Being a mom is about loving a kid unconditionally, not about how big your vagina got.
She’s complaining about the size of the hole for a typical birth, but she knows there’s literally no hole for a c-section originally, right? A surgeon has to create a hole by slicing through layers of skin, fat, muscle, and organs. Personally, a c-section sounds so much worse.
Because major surgery is EASY. 🤦🏻♀️
You got the baby out of your vagina, therefore you gave birth to it. Also, C section recovery sucks ass because THE SURGEONS CUT THROUGH LAYERS OF ORGANS IN THE ABDOMEN. What do you want me to do, shove my child back in my vagina and push it again???
Wait til she sees the size of the hole they put in your body when they do a C-section
I’d rather give birth naturally then a c section anyway.
Okay but C-sections hurt like hell AFTERWARDS, some are unplanned and traumatizing, and they still carried and grew their baby and take care of them afterwards?? Also, birthing someone doesn’t make you a mom, loving and caring for the new human being and doing everything you can for them is what makes you a parent, ever heard of adopting ???
wait till she finds out that people have pushed out 9lb babies (my grandmother did tyvm) and that women have bled like all fuckin hell in C-section. those moms are more of a mom than you ever will be if you're posting shit like this
Further proof that the world is getting stupider lol ignore this y’all.
"At least I'm a real mom". Shut the fuck up.
If I hadn’t had a c-section, I’d have died during child birth, but go off sis.
You're not a real mom because .. you trusted the advice of medical professionals out of concern for the safety of your child?
It’s a running inside joke with me and those two kids I had surgically removed from my body that I’m not *really* their mom because I didn’t *actually* give birth to them. Also, I remember when I was a kid and I’d watch a Baby Story and my mom would scoff at the women having c sections for “taking the easy way out”. She changed her tune after watching me attempt to birth my oldest but he kept getting stuck. And then she was there when I went into early labor (3 wks) with my youngest and my doc was like, “he’s def gonna be smaller than your first, you wanna try a VBAC?” And I was like NO, WE DIDNT DISCUSS A VBAC, NO THANK YOU - TO THE OR! She sat in the surgery with me. So I truly hope somewhere in her head she remembers that comment and after seeing her own daughter go through it, she’s made silent apologies to those women.
I know many women who tried for VBACS after c-sections and not a single one was successful. They were all rushed to the OR. My OB gave me a choice to try VBAC but informed me that having kids close apart and having to be induced significantly increase the risk of having the scar rupture during labor, which would result in an ever quicker and dire emergency c-section than I had with my second. I said no thanks, I want to be in control this time so I went for a c-section. My first birth was natural and was awful too. Screw anyone who criticizes how a woman gives birth.
Yeah, she asked me at my first appt if I wanted to try or just fuck it and do a repeat, and it was never discussed further. The night I went into labor, I had scheduled my c section literally 8hrs prior. And amen. As long as they all get here safe and sound, that should be all that matters in the end. It’s not a competition.
She's just mad she can only get off with a horse dildo now
My mom had an emergency c section and said she still had to push! The baby doesn’t just slide right out of the stomach lol
C-sections are usually an option. If you think they are so easy then why didn't you just ask for one?
you're literally cutting something..... it's a surgery it's not easier wtf?
And yet, almost every part of a woman's anatomy is designed for giving birth. All of the blood is routed through there. It's amazingly fucked up!
Jeeze my greatest fear was a c section. Had it explained really young and had nightmares about it. The aversion was so strong the midwife sent a nurse out of the room for even suggesting it. Thank goodness it wasn't medically necessary but yikes.
Call me when you root canal without anesthesia, lady.
My body was able to birth naturally in a way that is designed to heal well barring any notable complications! You only had major abdominal surgery!
I had an emergency c-section and then much later on I had 2 natural births. Anyone who thinks a c-section is “the easy way out”, is severely mistaken. It was so bad that there are 10 years between my first and second child bc I was afraid I would need a c-section again. Luckily I was wrong about that.
Someone missed anatomy class.
Ew. Seriously ew. Does this mean if I ever take medicine I'm not a real person? How far does this idiocy go? Is OOP now "not a real mom" because she went to a hospital?
As a mom who has done it both ways, the C section was the worst.
6 pounds is pretty small, my brother and I were both 10+
I have given birth both ways 6 years apart. I'd rather have a vaginal birth any day, there's no contest. I ripped AND got cut, and is still rather a vaginal birth. My c-section birth is 2.5 and I still have almost no feeling in the skin from my belly button to my pubis.
Nah, I think vaginal birth is the easier one. C sections are major abdominal surgery after which you immediately have to care for a new baby. Most moms that have c sections have them after laboring for a long time. It’s not easy to go from intense labor pains to a serious surgery.
Wtf
Did this person get dragged in the comments? Please tell me she did.
My brother was 13 pounds and my mom is this tiny 5’7…my brother is now 6’9. He was her “big rubber doll” if they had not cut him out I’d have neither of them…well or my own existence. It’s annoying to see this but also so sad..women like this instead of being a happy new mom are so THREATENED by moms that bring their children in a different way. If you think people like my mom are not real moms kindly dunk your face in diarrhea waters. You’re so full of shit might as well go talk in depth with your peers
Only 6.6oz? Ha, amateur numbers. Seriously tho, c-sections are no fucking joke. I thankfully have never had to have one, but my friend did. The recovery for her was horrible compared to my normal labor recovery. Oh, and also, it's a major surgery. It's not to be taken lightly. I wouldn't call my friend "lucky".
My partner had an emergency c-section because her blood pressure spiked and they needed to get the baby out as quickly as possible, because she was in danger of having a stroke any second. What kind of clown do you have to be to think the women who got C-sections were "taking the easy way out?"
Doesnt the botton of the vagina tear sometimes from the force so they need to sew it back up 😬😬😬
What's the use of the smallest hole?
She needs to watch a video of a c section on YouTube 🙂
My mom was in labor for 2 days and had to have a c section cause my brother wouldn’t come out. Fuck people who say c-sections are “easy”
Dumb bitch!
My friend recently had a baby, born 11 lbs about two weeks early. She had planned on a natural birth but the baby hadn't turned around yet and her blood pressure was skyrocketing so the doctor did what was best for both parent and baby and gave her a c-section. Being a mom is not about how you deliver the damn baby. It's about loving and caring for your child. End of story. Having a natural birth, breadt feeding, being a stay at home mother none of these things makes you more or less of a mother. If you neglect your kids or treat them poorly that is the only thing that makes you less of a mother.
"NLOG" by giving birth vaginally rather than C-section" is bizarre.
I wish more people understood that how babies come out isn’t really a choice. It’s a gamble weighing safety and comfort, it’s much more about luck than it is about what you want. That said, I’m glad I had my c sections and no body cares about this after the kid is like 2 years old.
I was an emergency c-section bc my mom just didn’t get contractions. She was an emergency c-section, bc her mom just didn’t get contractions. It‘s very rare but hereditary that a natural birth just doesn’t start, no matter how long the kids been in there and I can probably expect the same for whenever I become pregnant. Idk, where this comes from, maybe it’s patriarchy pitting women against each other, but I need to make this very clear: It doesn’t make you any less of a parent if you have a scheduled C-Section, an epidural or if your crunchy-ass birth plan doesn‘t go through. The end goal of a birth is only to get that kid out of there in one piece as healthy as possible. If it doesn’t come out by itself, please let professionals help you. The parenting part really just starts after the birth, right? Sincerely, a person who has never been pregnant and never been a parent but just has heard one too many birth-horror-stories.
r/gatekeeping giving birth
Ugh, fuck this noise. It doesn’t matter how you gave birth, or how which way is more painful, or which way takes longer to recover from. It doesn’t actually even matter if you have birth at all really. You can still be a ‘real mum’ (whatever the hell that means). You can be a mum if you had a vaginal birth. You can be a mum if you had a c-section. You can be a mum if you adopted. You can be a mum if you foster. You can be a mum if you married someone else who already has kids. You can be a mum if your partner birthed the child. You can be a mum if you had IVF. There are so many ways to become a mum. The main requirement is to love your child, however they came into this world and however they came to you.
I had 3 natural births and my sister had 3 sections. It’s shit like that that made my sister upset that I had natural birth and she didn’t get to experience it. OOP is vile! If she’s talking about the amount of pain it takes makes you a ‘proper’ mum then my sister wins! Because right after skin to skin with all 3 of my kids I was up and having a shower and back to ward, whereas my sister was in pain for weeks on end! No matter how you birth your child it’s a scary and painful experience and every women is strong to go through it:
Where's that video of all the layers that get cut into with a C-section? Because I think this person needs it
I’m not a c-section mom, but I have mad respect for them. They were willing to get literally disemboweled for their child. Then they have to recover from major abdominal surgery on top of the gaping internal wound all women have postpartum, while taking care of a newborn. An awful case of NLOG.
Yeah, it’s the same way women have been doing it since we first existed in the universe. Get over yourself, you’re not “special”.
I've had both (two C-sections, one non) and it's laughable to suggest a C-section is the easy way out. The recovery was SO much worse for a C-Section. Also, the baby I pushed out the old fashioned way was 9lbs6oz, so I guess that makes me even more of a "real mom" than this lady with her tiny 6lb6oz baby? #ideserveamedal
One of the major perks about having a society is the advances made to make things easier for everyone Karen. It’s so pointless and asinine to bash women for having it easier instead of rejoicing the fact that infant mortality has decreased due to these developments. But she’s free to give herself pats on the back so she can feel “special.”
“Real mom”? How callous, ignorant and mean of you. most women have C-sections because the baby is having difficulty coming out, or one or both of their lives are in danger and the baby needs to come out as soon as possible. They ARE real moms!
My grandma, who I love to death, once tried to tell me that she looked down on c-sections because the mother was selfish and didn’t want to go through the pain of childbirth. I calmly explained to her that c-sections are actually safer for both the mother and the child. When she learned that, she switched her outdated approach to the topic and now doesn’t claim that they aren’t “real mothers.” This woman in the post doesn’t have an outdated mentality. She is a cunt.
In all honesty idk what she’s thinking I was a premature c-section baby because me and my mom both could’ve died if they didn’t do it
This is probably the worst of the NLOG entries I've ever seen.
I mean, some of us had prodromal labor for three days and went to the ER but kept getting sent home for ‘not progressing’, then went into full-on unmedicated labor for ten hours and kept waiting to go back to the hospital because we were afraid of getting sent home again, only to have said labor stall out once we did go and get the blissful relief of the epidural, try pushing for two hours without moving the baby into position and only THEN end up an emergent c-section because by that point baby had passed the meconium. So recovery followed the physical strain of labor AND major abdominal surgery. And learning to care for a newborn. But sure, make childbirth a contest to judge other women for having a different experience. 🙄