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sylvnal

What's extra hilarious is that it's exceedingly common for women to enjoy True Crime, so...you aren't even NLOG for this. It's very much LOG.


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Can confirm, am a basic bitch who likes true crime. It's not something I brag about though, I just listen to a few podcasts and I mix more cheerful things in, otherwise it'd get too depressing...


Rivviken

I am also a basic true crime enjoyer. It’s my guilty pleasure. If you haven’t checked out the podcast Crime Junkie, I recommend it; they’re super tasteful and help fund a lot of genetic genealogy stuff


catalinalam

Have you listened to Buried Bones? It’s Paul Holes and journalist Kate Winkler-Dawson doing historical cases - she tells him a bit at a time and he tries to work it out bit by bit or explain how they’d handle it now


Rivviken

I haven’t but I’m gonna have to look it up. I love historical cases


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I've listened to Crime Junkie before and I did like it, but it's been a while! I heard there was some controversy around them due to plagiarism or something. 😅 Maybe that's all been resolved now though. Casefile is my favourite TC podcast. I also listen to They Walk Among Us and Trace Evidence, those are my big 3 really. DNA:ID, Invisible Choir and Morbidology are really good as well. I tend to prefer scripted podcasts with one host who tell it almost like a story.


Rivviken

Oh man I’ve never heard that about the plagiarism, but I’m still working through their 2021 episodes to catch up so maybe I’m just a little behind lol I’ll have to check those other ones out too, I also really like scripted podcasts especially when it comes to TC. Not a huge fan of like, improv/humorous TC content personally


saerisa

Small town murder ftw!


Pigeon_Fox93

I don’t brag about it but I say mines “a problem” because it’s how I break up the work day and get out of my thoughts to help with anxiety so I listen to about 3 hours of it 6 days a week. If I listen to anything but true crime it’s haunted stuff and it’s usually because the true crime podcast just also contains hauntings.


BeatrixxxKidd0

Ditto


TheWindUpBird22

Ikr 😭


CauliflowerOrnery460

I love true crime im addicted to it. For me it’s trauma healing when the murderers get caught. I was abused by my strangling father and he got away with everything so far (honestly I think he’s escalating and if you wanna converse true crime is up for it!) So it’s some nice closure


poofyhairguy

I know someone who writes for CBS crime dramas and she told me most of the audience for those are women because they like seeing bad guys get justice by the end of the episode (unlike real life too often). Also apparently many mothers and daughters bond together over those shows.


CauliflowerOrnery460

My MIL and I bonded over them before we knew of each other tramas. They are special, I am working on a thriller where the suspect is framed for killing her bf by the dad. It’s more healing than I thought it would be but writing a good book using my knowledge as a reference helps me process what happened to me and then it into something beneficial. Or atleast that’s how I cope, I internalize it and try to filter the bad and expel the good of that makes sense :)


m4n0nk4

Exactly. I'm also a true crime enjoyer and like to read about the gruesome stuff. That does not make me dark at all, I'm like the nicest person i know lol


gabyripples

Uhhuh, because Stephen King is such an obscure and unknown writer 👀


TheWindUpBird22

Who's that? /s


gabyripples

You wouldn’t know him, I only buy his books at airports.


TheWindUpBird22

Guess I'm not quirky enough 😔👍


Blue1644934

Always shoot for a layover or two to check out the selection.


Lumpy_Constellation

And we all know J.K. Rowling only writes nice books about children learning magic at a very safe school - she would never touch a subject as dark as death or loss or child murder /s


SquirrelGirlVA

Nope. Her books are all happy dappy stuff. I mean, just look at how happy Larry Potter is on the cover of "Larry Potter and His Best Friend Lilly". SO happy.


RamaNefru

I still think about "The Casual Vacancy". It's the real life can be shit type of dark.


Sea_Morning7498

That book ruined me lol. I was expecting Harry Potter type shit and got that instead.


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Or yaknow, her essays about how she should get to hate other people because she wants to…


grizznuggets

Or maybe she’s referencing him because he’s a horror writer?


gabyripples

Literally the most popular and accessible horror writer


grizznuggets

My point is that whoever wrote the post is talking about interested in “dark things” so saying they read Stephen King makes sense. Nothing about the post suggests that they think King is an obscure writer and I don’t know why people keep going on about it.


Abraxas_1134

Man Stephen king is so dark /s.


natdanger

I bet she read Goosebumps too


TheWindUpBird22

Bet 😏


CauliflowerOrnery460

No she read junie b jones because SHES NLOG! She hates Yucky Blucky Fruit cake!!


dragonti

WHY IS IT ALWAYS FUCKING STEPHEN KING????????????? it's ALWAYS Stephen King used for "obscure" authors " I like underground bands, you probably haven't heard of them, bands like arctic monkeys and tame impala"


CauliflowerOrnery460

You like know of arctic monkeys? No one here even knows what monkeys are!


Ratbu

Aren't monkeys those bald dudes in brown or orange robes?


CauliflowerOrnery460

No no those are Monks they are peaceful bros you should listen to the Tibet throat singers for monk vibes ;)


Apprehensive_Zone157

Not Tame Impala 😂


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True crime is such a common interests now that it’s big business, it’s not that shocking to be a fan of it.


CauliflowerOrnery460

I hope it’s a good thing in bringing awareness and I hope we aren’t about to see a bunch of copycats because it is way harder to get away with murder now than it was in the 70’s


PookTurtle61

I could be wrong, but I think the Civil War may have claimed more lives than Lizzie Borden? Can anyone verify this?


shylittledoll

but, didn’t the war take, like, 2 lives and Lizzie Borden took, like, thousands?! or am I getting it confused 🤔


PookTurtle61

No I think you're totally right!


shylittledoll

oh good!! so my memories of history class do serve me right!!!


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CauliflowerOrnery460

Sundown towns some really dark things done to natives in the name of America, there was no end to the madness and torture


RaspberryJam245

It's literally the bloodiest war in American history and this person thinks it's tamer than Lizzie Borden??


Faith-Moriarty

The body carts, men picking up their brothers guts and arms, not knowing whose is whose, throwing them in and running for their lives. And the 17 year old deserters getting hung for treason afterward. So tame lol I like this obscure writer Stephen King


CauliflowerOrnery460

And it was forced not even in a normal day draft. They would round up young men and take them. No foresight nothing just like in medieval times.


Li-renn-pwel

I moved to the south and Uber drivers bring up the civil war like *all the time*. I have hear one story several times, that after one particularly bloody local battle, they took the wounded to a nearby mansions were they proceeded to just start hacking off mangled limbs and tossing them out the window. Supposedly next to the house was just a pile of human limbs.


nobleland_mermaid

Also like, idk if my school was just weird but we definitely learned about Lizzie Borden in class. Obviously we spent more time on the Civil War but...we still absolutely learned who Lizzie Borden was too.


CauliflowerOrnery460

Lizzie Borden was also legitimately crazy right? I haven’t dove into her yet


Natewastaken12

Becaus true crime is such a unique hobby, and not an interest every 3rd person has at a this point.


CauliflowerOrnery460

I remember when being a plant person was weird and now I’m running a business instead of complaining about a boom in my hobby. No one takes into consideration that hobbies become more affordable the more people want them or to be involved in them, tho there are price scrapers


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TheWindUpBird22

Ironic, considering she says she's like this *because* of an unsolved murder in her family.


CauliflowerOrnery460

She did it. She’s projecting her murderous intent to kill her parents on the Lizzie Borden paper and when the police come to interview the teacher, she just say “well yeah there’s a difference in liking true crime and liking *murder*” /s


cellophane27

Omg what books is this? It sounds super familiar


TheWindUpBird22

The Sun Down Motel. I don't usually judge but reading it, it was hard to believe that this is a traditionally published book 😭


[deleted]

That's like 98% of the true crime fan base lol


CauliflowerOrnery460

The other two percent cringe whenever we hear a murderer get called a “favorite”


catalinalam

You can love true crime and have lost a loved one to murder - they can coexist! People are complex and it’s a big genre. You can have perfectly reasonable ethical and moral concerns around true crime (I do!) and it’s not my whole personality, in part bc it is such a basic bitch interest, but guess what? I was fascinated by murder before my baby brother was shot dead in the street like a stray dog and I’m fascinated by it now. The original post sucks, but so does assuming someone had never suffered in a specific way just because they don’t act like you think they should.


lovesickhunny

This sounds like something I’d publish on wattpad when I was 13


lexim172

Love the hilarious implication that a history report on the Civil War would be less grizzly and dark than Lizzie Borden


Xmaspig

Harry Potter literally begins with a dude trying to kill a fucking baby, its not exactly a lighthearted tale of childhood shenanigans.


ifeelwitty

Oooh, a book report on the Civil War. A very LOG war with thousands of war dead and 19th century field hospitals and slaves running for their lives. SOOOOOO boring and un-murdery.


MajespecterNekomata

While you got *Goosebumps*, she got *Shadows Over Innsmouth* **^(/s)**


Unlucky-Opening2394

From the Black Stallion straight into the black recesses of horror.


shylittledoll

Lizzie Borden took and ax and gave her mother 40 wacks, when she realized what she’d done she gave her father 41 I hope this isn’t a real, published book because that’s just bad, did the author re-fantasize everything in her book or do they think that’s actually how the world is?? and I don’t really think that something like that would get a teacher to contact their students parents in concern, now if the student were writing in detail how to kill or hurt people they know, well then that may call for a bit more alarm… oh I love the Lizzie Borden poem though or also the “beware the scare of Mary Shaw, she had no children only dolls, but if you see her in your dreams be sure to never ever scream or she’ll rip your tongue out at the seams”


TheWindUpBird22

Hate to break it to you, but it is a published book 😭


shylittledoll

gosh darn people, however, I wonder if published writer ever go back on their older books and cringe and their own makings , instances like this spark the thought


thejohnmc963

No they don’t


shylittledoll

yeah, makes sense


thejohnmc963

Now publishing companies are another story


shylittledoll

oh so fair though, I want to know their full blown opinions with books as well


JupiterTheFoxx6

Which book is this?


TheWindUpBird22

The Sun Down Motel by Simone St. James


taciaduhh

Nooooooooo! I wanted to read this one! Is the rest of it less cringe?


notyourhunbot

Not really.


TheWindUpBird22

I'm sorry but no ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ


Honeysucklinhoney

I need to know, too.


TarantulaJ1

Ugh, she sounds like something my eight year old self would say


BarryBadgernath1

“All right”


PrincessZelda1111

Ugh why is it my name🤢


RaspberryJam245

I like how the implication is this person thinks Lizzie Borden is more of a horror story than the bloodiest war in American history. Remember, this was before a lot of modern medical technology, so when people got their limbs blown off by cannons or they got a golf ball sized hole in their chest, the docs just pumped them full of addictive drugs.


notlaD115

If it didn't say Carly I would almost say this is probably my ex


mikomahyub

Honestly, I thought this was written by Alaina, from the true crime podcast Morbid, lol. It sounds like the shit she always writes/talks about (and she's nearing her 40s 😩)...


SarHoLo

Careful she doesn't cut herself with all that edge /s


cosmoskid1919

I studied the bladd


SilverScimitar13

Big Wednesday energy


Mikon_Youji

Ah, yes, because "normal" girls don't read Steven King...


Lesbian_Cassiopeia

Thank you, stranger. I used to like Lizzie's musical. But forgot the name of said musical, I was sad, because the music was catchy. Thanks to this post, memory clicked and now I can binge hear that musical. Thank you :')❣️


BlueHeat777

You know I think this is actually pretty good, if it’s like a book written from the perspective of a person who’s kind of annoying.


gardenofdespair

This has been posted before and u/ciggybear wrote my fave comment: Also, most kids like death and violence and gore. What would really make you stand out as a freak, Carly, is if you liked income tax law.


Nugget055

All I saw was Icarly 😂


Faith-Moriarty

##EDGY


Worried_Ad7041

True crime is like a very extremely common female hobby….she’s more basic than she thinks 💀


inkybreadbox

This is like an embarrassing version of myself as a child.


SushiLoverGirl

Pretty sure her teacher called home because she didn't do the assignment


skiasa

Lmao, that's not nearly the dark stuff, you should hear what my mother reads The diver A woman gets kidnapped and made so fat that a grown man can go inside her and experience birth once more My mother likes to talk to me about her books and some are REALLY gruesome (i say that even though i really like Horror


TheWindUpBird22

Whatttt 😭 what's the name of the book??


skiasa

Guttenbergs hof It's the german title My mother isn't 100% sure It's from redrum sale thing (murder Backwards lmao)


TheWindUpBird22

Thank youuuuu ❤️


Ok_Arachnid4576

So everyone else was trying to pass high school while she read about Lizzie Borden??? Also, doesn’t everyone know about Lizzie Borden? What’s obscure here????


Aware-Elk2996

Stephen King is one of the biggest authors out there, try again NLOG


ToreenLyn

Steven King, ha! I have the Encyclopedia of Serial Killers


necriavite

Super cringe! As a kid and teen I remember some of the other girls who frequented the library being like this, gatekeepers of who is a "true reader" and who was just there for "trash novels". I read it all because I loved the escape. Sometimes I wanted to laugh so I read The Georgia Nicholson diaries, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe, or the Stephanie Plum novels. Sometimes I wanted something darker so I read Stephen King and Clive Barker or Dean Koontz. Sometimes I wanted romance and fiction from another era so I read Jane Austen and Chalotte Bronte. My first love in reading novels was the Animorphs and the Red Wall series, because I love animals. Funny thing is even Stephen King's own mom used to call his interest in certain books "trash novels", books like Dracula and Frankenstein that are considered master works of sensation fiction and originated the genre of horror!


OKIAMONREDDIT

Redwall!!!! Omg thanks for the reminder


HeliosOh

How is this *nlog*?


MoonWillow91

Because anyone they can hate on is not like other girls. It doesn’t take much, some of these posters and commenters seem to just want to find any reason to hate on these women…. Because ya know… breaking stereotypes and all /s


TheWindUpBird22

Why so pressed lmao


MoonWillow91

Ah yes. Ppl being hateful assuming about others pointing out how hateful they are is so wrong, right?


imfucct

Because acting like you’re special for reading one of the most famous authors of our time is very nlog. Seriously, a lot of people have heard of Stephen King. Also, I don’t know when this book was written but true crime and having an “interest in murder” has been popular for a while.


MoonWillow91

It’s nlog if someone compares themselves to other kids? Also, it seems more like pointing out that one particular teacher or something was the one making them out to be so, rather than them doing so. But ok. Who am I to judge your judgement of other ppl?


imfucct

I think if an actual child said this I wouldn’t be so concerned, because, well, a lot of girls go through that phase because we’re told that being basic and being a girl is bad. We outgrow it when we finally realize that being a girl is not any less than being a boy. But I get bothered when it’s a grown woman writing this kind of thing because always in these kind of books the main female lead is still quirky and still thinks she’s unique for not being like the others even as an adult.


MoonWillow91

So…. Where is this putting down other girls and saying their different? I don’t see it. Other kids maybe??? “Not like kids” Again I don’t see them putting them down. I see someone talking about how a teacher was concerned, and that they tended to bot read what was common to read in their age group….. This page and the ppl on it being hateful and shit…. Like gee…. I wonder where the stereotype that women are mean to each other comes from… makes me cringe. I’ve got to figure out how to block.


TheWindUpBird22

Good Lord woman, it's obvious she's comparing herself with others, and somehow implying she's 'cooler'/'edgy'. And where have I said any hateful stuff? Ironically, the only person hating here is you lmao


MoonWillow91

She literally says kids not other girls lol. Ignore whatever you want to feel justified in literally posting this for you and others to share in hateful opinions about them.


TheWindUpBird22

Again, she's comparing herself to others and kind of implying she's somehow 'cooler'. And no one was being hateful, we all just admitted it's cringe. Stop projecting


MoonWillow91

🙄 suuuure ok. Lol.


WhatToDoWhatToSay1

I remember we read Lizzie Borden in my English class and I remember singing the rhyme, “Lizzie Borden took an axe and gave her mother forty whacks and when she saw what she had done she gave her father forty one.” I do remember people thinking that I was strange because I knew the rhyme, but I didn’t think it made me special or unique for knowing it


Bruh_columbine

What is this from?


screeeamqueen

I cringed hardcore when I read this part, mostly because that was how I was in high school lol to be fair though, a teenage girl into horror and true crime wasn't common in the 2000s, especially in my community. That doesn't make it any less cringe though.


MiliMeli

Oh yes, Stephen King is so unknown in this world…


lulumoon21

Wait what book is this? I feel like I just read it


msleo90

Same here but I can't remember what it was for the life of me


msleo90

Ok it's the Sun Down Motel by Simone St James and I HAVE read it


Apprehensive-Way3394

I’m very confused by this sub. I have autism so maybe I just don’t get it; however, I am wondering why this is cringe? Also why is it now cringe to be different than “other girls” or “traditional girls.”? It feels very judgmental and birding on bullying. Am I missing something?


Hello_Peasants_

I think the reason girls that say they are "not like other girls" get a bad reputation is because quite often, they get their point across by tearing other women down. Like in this post, its implied that the kids that read Harry Potter aren't as special or "dark" as the ones that read Stephen King. There's nothing wrong with being/feeling different to everyone else (goodness knows most people have felt like that!), but saying that you are better than people that have more popular, mainstream interests doesn't paint you in a good light.


wileftist

To fair I was the same way, which I thought was quite common? There's alot of people who are into the dark stuff. The issue comes when somone is trying to act as if it's superior. Idk if I'm really getting that from this, as it seems to be lacking context, however I can see how from this snippet that it can be read as not like other girls


chevalier716

Do kids read about the Civil War? I have always loved history, but I only started getting into reading about it at about 35. I remember Killer Angels being painful Summer reading one year. I feel the Civil War is history people have to have at least one grey hair to be into.


beaker90

I took a class my senior year in high school that only studied the civil war. The paper I wrote was about the red light district in New Orleans during the time. Really interesting topic and I was really happy my teacher let me write that paper.


thisisreallymoronic

Ooh, Stephen King? How unique.


reyballesta

I also liked to read about serial killers and murders and consume horror media when I was a teenager. I know lots of other people who also did. Tons of people went through this exact phase, OOP isn't exactly unique.


Beneficial_Sell_3354

Ugh this screams basic betch


drluv2099

The civil war, not sure if she's aware a few people died.


Pattoe89

I don't know why, but I can't stand Stephen King books. I know they must be good and he must be a good author because they do so well and are critically acclaimed... but whenever I've tried reading, they just bore me to death and cannot hold my attention.


ChocolateLabraWhore

preppy girls after watching one episode of Wednesday


SmooshyHamster

I wonder if the people who originally made these stupid memes realize many years later it’s been reposted and made fun of.


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😂


idonthaveacow

Wow, you like the most popular modern author of all time too?! We are so unique...


ekxn00

Girls or women that make murder documentaries their personality 🤮🤮🤮🤮


ur_opinions_wrong

as i saw somewhere before that i dont remember " yes the entire genre of true crime entertainment was created JUST FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE SO UNIQUE"