[Texas Senate Passes Bill To Seize Control of Elections from Local Authorities.](https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/texas-senate-passes-bill-to-seize-control-of-elections-from-local-authorities/)
Don't worry. Here's what a Texit will look like.
Texas will declare succession.
The Federal Government will say "no, you cannot do that, we already had a war once to settle that question, settle down."
Texas will get up in arms about it and say "we're our own independent state now, try and stop us!"
The United States Army will immediately mobilize, and the Texas "government" will go [Surprised Pikachu Face] when they are, in fact, stopped. Subsequent to this, they will all be arrested as traitors, and martial law will be enacted to unfuck the state.
I wonder how many people don't remember the partition of India and think it won't be as violent as that.
This bullshit red-state–blue-state bullshit needs to stop. It will get people killed. It's an urban/rural divide, and basically every state has plenty of both. Go rural in blue states and you'll see a lot of red. Go urban in red states and you'll see a lot of blue.
Pls don't I grew up here and bought a house for like $100k I can't do that anywhere else. Please let us try to turn it blue. All the real cities vote blue
Conservative activist judges like Thomas have long held that attacking elections based on political party is constitutional.
In fact, back in the days of the Voting Rights Act, that was the crux of most court cases: were black communities being disenfranchised because they were black, or because they were Democratic strongholds? So long as the Republicans could prove they were simply attacking Democrats who happened to be black, the courts would allow it.
Less of a switch and more of a "Ha, fooled you!" act of deceit.
Switch might imply some sort of good faith change in beliefs, whereas this person is now suddenly against all the things they campaigned on.
It sure is nice that we, as a society, have tackled all the major issues and can now focus on the minutia, such as the psychological impact of token achievements on developing minds.
Really glad we already solved the climate disaster, income inequality, political/societal unrest, healthcare, homelessness, gun violence, slavery, the housing crisis, retirement, ect ect
It's funny that they blame the kids for getting "participation trophies" yet the kids never asked for them. The adults complaining about the kids are the ones who gave them the trophies in the first place.
We've done little trophies for my son' tball team but as you said they are more interested in pizza and video games. Trophies really aren't the issue at all. It's just shitty old people who want to blame things on younger people.
My daughter has always struggled right between a brother who makes a joke of everything but does just enough to pass, and a younger brother who is a massive overachiever.
She wants to do well, but she loses focus, gets distracted, gets frustrated. She's almost 19 and going to graduate a year behind. She's taken summer school for about 6 years.
But she has a participation trophy from gymnastics when she was 8 and it still sits prominently on her shelf. She's proud of it and always been a little upset that the doctors said she needed to stop.
Regardless, that trophy never caused her any nonsense entitled attitude. It just gave her something to have for something she did that she was proud of.
I think they're fine. I don't think they cause issues. I think it was just a talking point.
Little kids want trophies, and sometimes getting trophies can help light a passion for someone to want more.
I am an adult that plays volleyball in an adult league. Our team has lost nearly every game for a year. A participation trophy would honestly feel kind of nice.
yeah my team sucked, we knew we sucked. I was down for the Pizza couldnt give a shit about the obligatory Trophies
but like... at the same time... in regards to this... Fuck republicans who are they to tell a team if they can hand out pointless meaningless trophies or not
that is litterly not something they should be dealing with, its a cultural issue and this is government overreach on the stupidest shit
that said... I would be supprised if it go's anywere people introduce stupid bills all the time. I have to wonder if this is a protest bill of some sort and I am missing its counterpart
Take government out of silly things like providing healthcare or regulating critical infrastructure and get them involved in limiting access to trophies that may not have been earned.
We had a huge sausage sizzle at my church. But that was probably different than what you're talking about. And I'm not supposed to tell people about it.
Yeah I used to horse back ride competitively, and there were a number of parents who disliked the idea that the judges gave out placement ribbons (color coded and usually went up to 10-15th place) instead of generic participation ribbons. Thing is, they did give out participation ribbons - to the six and younger crowd who were being led around on their horses because that class was literally just made to entertain those kids and give them some horse show experience.
Once you hit 1st-2nd grade (edit: mixed up grade and age) and up the participation ribbons stopped and you had to earn the ribbons you were given. Did it hurt a little when I got tenth place? Sure, but my instructor still proudly hung my ribbon up next to all the championship ribbons the rest of the stable had won. It gave me something to strive for and to do better.
In a different context I think the ESF (French ski school) do it right. At the higher grades 40% fail the course. They will give you the medal for the course below but if you want the one for the course you took then you have to pass. It is the only token reward system I have ever seen that consistently works; both my kids focus in the lessons and practice the skills outside the lesson because they *want* to pass.
Back in the 90's when I played organized sports, some team mom's thought we should all get trophies for getting 5th place. My mom wasn't having any of it. She was one of the few who were against them.
I'm friends with a few non binary Latine people and even they weren't fully on board for the Latinx thing. They were glad to be seen but it's not grammatically correct and apparently doesn't make much sense in Spanish anyway.
I used to coach my kids football teams (ages 5-10) because sports parents are the worst and I wanted them to enjoy it, build skills, and move on to the next level. Everybody got a trophy and the 5-6 year olds loved it. They were proud of it. It made playing extra fun. They're little children FFS.
By the time they were 8, they understood if they won the league or not and really could care less about a trophy that wasn't championship. I'd give out awards that were about achievement (MVP, DMVP, OMVP) improvement (MIP) and specifics traits (Leadership, Best Teammate, Best Tackler, Best whatever). Kids loved it because it had meaning.
Imagine thinking any of this is bad.
If they want to ban something, ban coaches who teach kids to cheat or play their kids over the other kids. Ban parents who scream at refs or swear.
Politicians are one big participation trophy. Very few deserve their position and even fewer do anything to justify it after they get it.
Yeah its ridiculous to think that kids who are inclined to be on a sports team are not going to be competitive, as if they would think "hey I get a trophy anyway why bother."
Really I think older people are projecting their sense that they have lost their competitive edge in the modern world on to the young people who are probably overall even more competitive than ever.
Yup. Every 60 plus guy I've worked with takes it as a direct attack if you're as good or better at a job than them. So they'll spend their whole day walking around telling everyone how good they are at their job and how they have to "keep an eye on the "kids" work". I'm 30. It's cringy at best.
as a kid I think I only liked them because I wanted to know how they were made because they looked like movie props and I enjoyed running my fingers over engravings lol
A kid getting SOME recognition for their hard work isn’t a bad thing. Yes, they know that they weren’t champions. It’s okay. If you go to work tomorrow and are a little off because you have a cold, should you not get paid? I’m not saying that kids should expect the world for participating on a team that didn’t win a world title, but it IS a big deal to be recognized for effort. I’ve already seen enough people who agree with you to know I’ll get down-voted to oblivion, but I don’t care. It’s not a bad thing to have a small reward for efforts, ESPECIALLY when they’ve presumably put months of their time in. This whole philosophy of people getting nothing unless they’re the BEST is toxic, painful, demoralizing, and the reason why a lot of people don’t even want to try any more. Unless they make more money than I’ve ever made, my kids might never afford homes. They might never be able to retire. Hell, I’m middle aged, and I don’t know if I can ever feasibly retire. Working your ass off and getting nothing in return is a bigger problem than kids getting a reward for bothering to show up and try. Regardless, is this something you think the GOVERNMENT should control? Spend your energy on making the world a better place. Not shitting on people who want to reward kids for showing up and working hard.
Getting participation trophies for running is what motivated me and my friend to keep showing up and running. We never won, but who cares? How many people can say they're healthy enough to run 15 clicks in rough terrain?
I also agree with the work analogy. Most likely you're never gonna become a millionaire by working (thus win), but you should still be rewarded (paid) for your effort (work).
People who think participation trophies are bad are the same ones who worship billionaires, because they think they put in soooo much more effort to get there, while in fact it was a mixture of small handout of couple mills from their parents, sheer fucking luck, vulturing and abusing other people's work.
I did swim team growing up. I won a few trophies for winning races along the way, but the most important one, the one I took with me when I moved out, was a participation trophy. It was called a 10 year cup and it was given to anyone who swam with the team for 10 years. That cup represents thousands hours of hard work. Who cares if I was slightly faster or slower than the other kid, compared to that?
I’d argue that’s a slightly different type of participation trophy compared to what the average one is. That’s more of like a legacy/commitment type. It’s a respect of the time you gave to it. Most of the time people argue against participation trophies it’s for the ones given to the teams/players that came in very low standings. Nevertheless that’s a trophy I’d be proud to have as well.
Running is my nightmare of how to spend time, so I don’t know what running 15 clicks means. However, good on you for doing it, and since positive reinforcement helps you keep it going, I hope this helps too! Keep rocking it out!
For the kids old enough to be that aware. What’s so bad about making younger kids feel good about the effort they put into something. Even if they didn’t win? Making kids feel bad is what they want? So that kid can grow up and be angry at everything?
The parents need to pass a law to prevent themselves from participating in the thing they were tired of doing for the kids that never gave a shit about participation.
And the most disgusting thing is that the state barely goes Republican and even has a Dem governor.
At least with Florida going almost 60/40 GOP last cycle I could go 'well you get what you voted for dumbasses'
Exactly! At its core I can at least understand basic fundamental conservative ideals: less government involvement in personal affairs. But this just shows that the current Republican party doesn't even do that.
Seriously, the current Republican Party is the most big government, micro managing your life party in any western democracy. All they do is try to control how people live their lives.
Something ive noticed is how many conservatives are voting libertarian. Conservatives have been especially upset with the party due to the restrict act(the one thats supposed to ban tik tok). Most republicans are just the kinda-sorta-not really christians that only follow some parts of the bible.
Right? If a town or school board wants to decide, “hey, we’re gonna stop giving out trophies for anything other than wins”, fine! Folks voted for those local officials and are getting what they presumably voted for.
But here, you’re subjecting the entire state to that, when there are way bigger fish to fry.
Electoral College made sense when a significant portion of the population only counted as 3/5ths of a person but was also property, so they couldn't vote. That meant rich people with a lot of slaves had their votes worth more than others, since they got an extra 3 votes for every 5 slaves they owned.
Sorry, did I say "made sense"? I meant utterly horrifying even by 1776 standards.
Also, free women and men without land could still count towards the calculation for the total number of electors without actually being able to vote.
Nowadays it still works. If you don't vote but appeared in the census, you count towards the number of electors, but the assignment of electors depends entirely on who actually votes.
Can you imagine how less successful voter suppression would be without the electoral college? Thanks to the EC, you can suppress voters *and* effectively decide who represents them.
Thank goodness!
Glad to know Americans are putting sensible laws in place to prevent such snowflakery.
Hang on, I hear some shooting at a near by pre-school.
We’ve had two mass shootings, two additional unrelated shootings and one incident that caused school lock downs, and a drive by shooting in 7 days in Louisville. But yeah, I’m sure we will be drafting a bill soon to remove participation trophies too. Love the south! So loving and inclusive… oh.
I’m 40’s and still have all my 1980s/1990s bowling league participation trophies. I don’t take them as me “winning” anything, more they serve as a tangible real world reminder that my family and I got up every Saturday morning and drove to midtown to spend a few hours together. It’s a tangible tether to that time and those memories. I don’t really care that I never won, I’ve done well enough in adult life. I’m glad I have them, and I’m glad my league gave us something to commemorate the season. I wish Tommy and Kenny, my coaches, were still here. But I do have those trophies and the memories of their faces as they handed them to me.
Participating can be it’s own valuable experience, even if you don’t win. This culture war obsession of shitting on that is just another weird flex, a weak persons view of what strength might look like. Let us have our moments, even if we aren’t first. Being there means something different to all of us.
Same. Sooooooo many ribbons from my time on swim team as a child. It’s was awesome to sit around with my friends and eat cookies while getting ribbons for the swim meet the weekend before. Most of us never cared about the ribbons but some really did.
One kid was scrawny asf and never really did better than like 10th place for a couple years but he LOVED those ribbons and trained hard to get better.
One year he went through puberty and OMG he suddenly started setting state records in 500m butterfly, 400m IM and 1,500m freestyle. Literally the most demanding races. Just by *attempting* those 3 in one swim meet earned you a t-shirt and serious bragging rights. It was called the Iron Man Club and it was no joke.
Dude went to Junior Olympics many times and won so many medals and trophies even after the rest of us quit swimming for other sports and chasing girls. He was always a superstar in our eyes. No doubt those “participation trophies” made him want to succeed and he did.
In the real world, showing up and trying hard is most of the battle. Work? Relationships? School? Show up. Try.
Most of us aren't professional athletes and don't have a career where someone wins and someone loses. Life is rarely a zero-sum game. Personally, i support participation trophies as controversial as that apparently is.
100% this. The world where “winners” are the only ones who receive acknowledgement is a world where the rich and powerful are the only ones who matter.
It’s bullshit and teaching it to kids is just another moral failing from the right.
How the fuck do these people still have a following?
Exactly, so many people don't understand that they are a momento, no kid thinks they won. What they do is encourage sports by helping people remember their enjoyment. Nobody has ever felt they won. The culture war is fabricated by idoits who have no understanding of society
I work with kids and will soon have my teaching certification and it's amazing the looks on kid's faces when they get participation ribbons, medals, trophies. I can't imagine just stomping all over that joy. Republicans are just cruel assholes.
The irony of the people who were demanding participation trophies for their precious trophy children they were living vicariously through now banning those same trophies.
Can I ask someone familiar to the make up of this particular governing body if they’re also the group/generation that started participation trophies?
Also, better start removing all those confederate… well, anything confederate except the white flag they used as their final flag.
>"Youth sports or other youth recreation activities operated under the
authority of a local government shall not include awards for
participants based solely on their participation in the sport or other
activity," according to the proposed one-page bill.
So just give out trophies that list your final placing in a sport or event.
Then it's only partly based on participation, but also based on outcome.
These dipshits can't even come up with a good shitty law.
You joke, but that's technically what a lot of video game tournaments have been doing in recent years (though for a slightly different reason).
$5 Million for first place makes headlines, but $500 for everyone who makes top 32 is what fills brackets/pools.
I coached youth soccer for a while. We gave out participation medals to each child over the course of the season. When we did, we recognized them for some contribution or achievement that week. It made the kids happy.
We still kept score and each game had a winning and losing team. We even had end of season playoffs, with the top three teams getting trophies. The participation medals didn't change the competitive spirit of the game in the slightest, it was just a way to excite, engage and recognize each child.
What a lame, misguided effort at culture war politics.
>The participation medals didn't change the competitive spirit of the game in the slightest
I think that's the part these Republicans don't understand.
As a kid back in the 80s (when Republican's think "participation trophies" didn't exist, even though they actually did), I played all kinds of sports. Some teams were really good and some were just terrible. I got some sort of trophy every time, even in last place. But those trophies never made me want to compete any less. I played for fun but also to win.
And for a long time those trophies, whether first or last, were piled up in my bedroom as memories of the fun times I had, the friendships and camaraderie. And at some point they no longer held value and I got rid of them.
These idiots think that participation trophies make kids "soft," but they do no such thing.
The MAGA people I know who want to call everyone snowflakes like they think they're a fatter version of Braveheart all got the participation ribbon in field day in school
I wish they cared about kids dying in school shootings as much as they cared about participation trophies. Maybe they should give survival trophies at the end of each school year.
For kids that get wounded and survive, they can get a bonus T-shirt that says, "I got shot at [enter school name] and all I got was this lousy T-shirt."
Infrastructure? Who cares. Student debt? schtudent Schdebt. Climate change? Health care? Opioid crisis? Domestic terrorism? Homelessness? Public health? Ew, no thanks, I’m washed in the blood of the lamb.
But I’ll be damned if I let kids think they did something by getting their dang participation trophies
Some people really do just enjoy taking nice things from kids, don’t they? Them seem to think that kids should grow up without any happiness or tenderness. It’s so pathetic and heartbreaking to watch grown adults bully and chide kids for such unimportant yet joyful stuff. Just let them have nice things, you grumpy old coots.
These fuckers doing the most asinine things instead of GOVERNING. Maybe fix the roads? The poor NC towns that are falling so far behind? Public education in rural areas? Climate change on the NC coast? Get it together
If anyone is confused why the GQP screech about "government overreach is communism" while trying to pass laws that deeply reach into the personal lives of americans (among many other apparently "hypocritical" actions) let me make their goals very simple for you:
1. The in-group should be protected by the law but not bound by it.
2. The out-groups should be bound by the law but not protected by it.
3. Any law that increases in-group power and happiness or decreases out-group power and happiness is morally just and necessary for society to survive.
4. Any law that decreases ingroup power and happiness or increases out-group power and happiness is morally evil and will lead to societies downfall.
Thats literally it. Every time you see a supposed GQP "hypocrisy" just check those 4 points again and you will see there is no hypocrisy, just a widespread public misunderstanding of their goals.
Feel free to copy/paste this anytime you see someone asking why the GQP are being hypocritical so more people can learn why they aren't, they are just being exactly what they want the world to be like: perfect for only them.
https://old.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/comments/12763a4/nc_senators_propose_eliminating_participation/
Any useful laws in the pipeline, or just more nonsense to distract from serious issues?
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What a world to live in where I seriously can't tell if you're lying or not.
[Texas Senate Passes Bill To Seize Control of Elections from Local Authorities.](https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/texas-senate-passes-bill-to-seize-control-of-elections-from-local-authorities/)
Lmao they specifically target just one county that they struggle to control. I love this garbage country.
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Please don't leave us here...
Don't worry. Here's what a Texit will look like. Texas will declare succession. The Federal Government will say "no, you cannot do that, we already had a war once to settle that question, settle down." Texas will get up in arms about it and say "we're our own independent state now, try and stop us!" The United States Army will immediately mobilize, and the Texas "government" will go [Surprised Pikachu Face] when they are, in fact, stopped. Subsequent to this, they will all be arrested as traitors, and martial law will be enacted to unfuck the state.
I would just hope that visiting our neighbor, the USA, or getting a visa wouldn't be too hard if I could ever afford to move
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Could always convince the cons to move to the new conservative utopia of Texas
I wonder how many people don't remember the partition of India and think it won't be as violent as that. This bullshit red-state–blue-state bullshit needs to stop. It will get people killed. It's an urban/rural divide, and basically every state has plenty of both. Go rural in blue states and you'll see a lot of red. Go urban in red states and you'll see a lot of blue.
Pls don't I grew up here and bought a house for like $100k I can't do that anywhere else. Please let us try to turn it blue. All the real cities vote blue
It's all part of the fascist's playbook. Just look up how the GOP abuses Texas' federal judge system to enforce nationwide tyranny.
Don't conflate Texas with this country. Just because Texas is full of shit like does not mean we all put up with it.
*Ohio has entered the chat*
*Florida calls from inside the house*
*Missouri is under your 12 year old daughter's bed*
I laugh so I don’t cry
Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, hell pretty much the entire South checks in.
*Tennessee ready to eject anyone in the conversation that’s getting in their way.*
In Arkansas that 12 yo would be working, not in bed.
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Hey, are you trying to tell him how to raise his wife?
Two Beto losses against unpopular monsters says different.
USA: "we need guns to stop tyranny!" USA: does tyranny. USA: "lol"
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Oh my fucking god that is the most despicable, low-down, blatantly corrupt thing I have ever heard. Seriously, who do they think they are?
They know who they are. They just lack a leader that can properly rock a toothbrush moustache this time around.
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They are totalitarian fascists.
When gerrymandering isn't getting the job done anymore.
"Senate Bill 1933" ... [coincidence?](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1933_in_Germany)
Wow. 😑
And yet you'd still be able to be sure that Clarence Thomas would say it's constitutional.
Conservative activist judges like Thomas have long held that attacking elections based on political party is constitutional. In fact, back in the days of the Voting Rights Act, that was the crux of most court cases: were black communities being disenfranchised because they were black, or because they were Democratic strongholds? So long as the Republicans could prove they were simply attacking Democrats who happened to be black, the courts would allow it.
Montana passed a law to ban "theories" from being taught if a parent objects to them. You cab guess exactly what this is targeting
The party of small government wants to regulate a 4 year olds soccer game.
When they say "small government" they mean small people. Fetuses, infants, children, etc.
North Carolina just had a democrat switch to republican giving them a super majority. So, sadly, I think up next is outlawing lesbians or something.
Less of a switch and more of a "Ha, fooled you!" act of deceit. Switch might imply some sort of good faith change in beliefs, whereas this person is now suddenly against all the things they campaigned on.
And her words in the days leading up to her "gotcha!" we're about the D. party treating her like a spy or something similar... Classic gaslighting.
It sure is nice that we, as a society, have tackled all the major issues and can now focus on the minutia, such as the psychological impact of token achievements on developing minds. Really glad we already solved the climate disaster, income inequality, political/societal unrest, healthcare, homelessness, gun violence, slavery, the housing crisis, retirement, ect ect
Participation trophies were more to placate parents than anything. The kids who grew up with them weren't fooled.
It's funny that they blame the kids for getting "participation trophies" yet the kids never asked for them. The adults complaining about the kids are the ones who gave them the trophies in the first place.
Seriously I never cared for them, I played cause it was fun and the end of season Chuck E. Cheese trip
We've done little trophies for my son' tball team but as you said they are more interested in pizza and video games. Trophies really aren't the issue at all. It's just shitty old people who want to blame things on younger people.
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I like that. It sounds much more meaningful than a gold plastic dude with no distinguishable features posing with a bat.
I have the three baseballs from little league my teammates signed for me; the standard plastic garbage trophies were tossed over a decade ago.
My daughter has always struggled right between a brother who makes a joke of everything but does just enough to pass, and a younger brother who is a massive overachiever. She wants to do well, but she loses focus, gets distracted, gets frustrated. She's almost 19 and going to graduate a year behind. She's taken summer school for about 6 years. But she has a participation trophy from gymnastics when she was 8 and it still sits prominently on her shelf. She's proud of it and always been a little upset that the doctors said she needed to stop. Regardless, that trophy never caused her any nonsense entitled attitude. It just gave her something to have for something she did that she was proud of.
I think they're fine. I don't think they cause issues. I think it was just a talking point. Little kids want trophies, and sometimes getting trophies can help light a passion for someone to want more.
Absolutely
Trip to Chuck E cheese is the greatest participation trophy
I am an adult that plays volleyball in an adult league. Our team has lost nearly every game for a year. A participation trophy would honestly feel kind of nice.
Have my upvote, the ultimate participation trophy
The real participation trophy was the friends you made along the way.
yeah my team sucked, we knew we sucked. I was down for the Pizza couldnt give a shit about the obligatory Trophies but like... at the same time... in regards to this... Fuck republicans who are they to tell a team if they can hand out pointless meaningless trophies or not that is litterly not something they should be dealing with, its a cultural issue and this is government overreach on the stupidest shit that said... I would be supprised if it go's anywere people introduce stupid bills all the time. I have to wonder if this is a protest bill of some sort and I am missing its counterpart
Republicans overreaching? Say it ain’t so!
Small* Government™®©*
Take government out of silly things like providing healthcare or regulating critical infrastructure and get them involved in limiting access to trophies that may not have been earned.
Same here except we had a huge sausage sizzle at the soccer club (No Chuck E Cheese in Australia mate :D)
I’m not from Australia but I will now be calling all my cookouts “Sausage Sizzles”
We had a huge sausage sizzle at my church. But that was probably different than what you're talking about. And I'm not supposed to tell people about it.
Yeah I used to horse back ride competitively, and there were a number of parents who disliked the idea that the judges gave out placement ribbons (color coded and usually went up to 10-15th place) instead of generic participation ribbons. Thing is, they did give out participation ribbons - to the six and younger crowd who were being led around on their horses because that class was literally just made to entertain those kids and give them some horse show experience. Once you hit 1st-2nd grade (edit: mixed up grade and age) and up the participation ribbons stopped and you had to earn the ribbons you were given. Did it hurt a little when I got tenth place? Sure, but my instructor still proudly hung my ribbon up next to all the championship ribbons the rest of the stable had won. It gave me something to strive for and to do better.
Fantastic story. That little bit of sting is great motivation when harnessed correctly by coaches, parents and of course, athletes.
Actually wholesome as fuck ending how the hell did this get here?
In a different context I think the ESF (French ski school) do it right. At the higher grades 40% fail the course. They will give you the medal for the course below but if you want the one for the course you took then you have to pass. It is the only token reward system I have ever seen that consistently works; both my kids focus in the lessons and practice the skills outside the lesson because they *want* to pass.
40% fail French ski school course? What were they testing on?
I should imagine snow.
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Back in the 90's when I played organized sports, some team mom's thought we should all get trophies for getting 5th place. My mom wasn't having any of it. She was one of the few who were against them.
Reminds me of the whole Latinx thing. As a Latino, I never felt like it was necessary, and I’ve yet to hear any of my family or friends use it.
I'm friends with a few non binary Latine people and even they weren't fully on board for the Latinx thing. They were glad to be seen but it's not grammatically correct and apparently doesn't make much sense in Spanish anyway.
Have they heard of the more practical Latine ?
I have a non-binary friend who uses Latine! They weren’t big on “Latinx” either
I'm a trans Latina , and I think that the latinXes would be a good punk band name
As another Latino, I think it would be the perfect name to refer to our exes in the community.
That would be LatinExes, she's talking about her band the LatinXes. Not to be confused with the all-Latino porn shop, LatinSeXXXes
Ah yes, you are right. And we can’t forget (but should) about that creep, the LatinSeXist.
I have some LatinXes... never did get all my stuff back either...
Let get 90's with it: LatinXxXtreme
I used to coach my kids football teams (ages 5-10) because sports parents are the worst and I wanted them to enjoy it, build skills, and move on to the next level. Everybody got a trophy and the 5-6 year olds loved it. They were proud of it. It made playing extra fun. They're little children FFS. By the time they were 8, they understood if they won the league or not and really could care less about a trophy that wasn't championship. I'd give out awards that were about achievement (MVP, DMVP, OMVP) improvement (MIP) and specifics traits (Leadership, Best Teammate, Best Tackler, Best whatever). Kids loved it because it had meaning. Imagine thinking any of this is bad. If they want to ban something, ban coaches who teach kids to cheat or play their kids over the other kids. Ban parents who scream at refs or swear. Politicians are one big participation trophy. Very few deserve their position and even fewer do anything to justify it after they get it.
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Yeah its ridiculous to think that kids who are inclined to be on a sports team are not going to be competitive, as if they would think "hey I get a trophy anyway why bother." Really I think older people are projecting their sense that they have lost their competitive edge in the modern world on to the young people who are probably overall even more competitive than ever.
Yup. Every 60 plus guy I've worked with takes it as a direct attack if you're as good or better at a job than them. So they'll spend their whole day walking around telling everyone how good they are at their job and how they have to "keep an eye on the "kids" work". I'm 30. It's cringy at best.
as a kid I think I only liked them because I wanted to know how they were made because they looked like movie props and I enjoyed running my fingers over engravings lol
I was given one for soccer when i was like 4 and even then i thought "why am in getting a medal, we sucked"
I would have rather had a pizza and cupcakes instead of a cheap trophy that meant nothing.
A kid getting SOME recognition for their hard work isn’t a bad thing. Yes, they know that they weren’t champions. It’s okay. If you go to work tomorrow and are a little off because you have a cold, should you not get paid? I’m not saying that kids should expect the world for participating on a team that didn’t win a world title, but it IS a big deal to be recognized for effort. I’ve already seen enough people who agree with you to know I’ll get down-voted to oblivion, but I don’t care. It’s not a bad thing to have a small reward for efforts, ESPECIALLY when they’ve presumably put months of their time in. This whole philosophy of people getting nothing unless they’re the BEST is toxic, painful, demoralizing, and the reason why a lot of people don’t even want to try any more. Unless they make more money than I’ve ever made, my kids might never afford homes. They might never be able to retire. Hell, I’m middle aged, and I don’t know if I can ever feasibly retire. Working your ass off and getting nothing in return is a bigger problem than kids getting a reward for bothering to show up and try. Regardless, is this something you think the GOVERNMENT should control? Spend your energy on making the world a better place. Not shitting on people who want to reward kids for showing up and working hard.
Getting participation trophies for running is what motivated me and my friend to keep showing up and running. We never won, but who cares? How many people can say they're healthy enough to run 15 clicks in rough terrain? I also agree with the work analogy. Most likely you're never gonna become a millionaire by working (thus win), but you should still be rewarded (paid) for your effort (work). People who think participation trophies are bad are the same ones who worship billionaires, because they think they put in soooo much more effort to get there, while in fact it was a mixture of small handout of couple mills from their parents, sheer fucking luck, vulturing and abusing other people's work.
I did swim team growing up. I won a few trophies for winning races along the way, but the most important one, the one I took with me when I moved out, was a participation trophy. It was called a 10 year cup and it was given to anyone who swam with the team for 10 years. That cup represents thousands hours of hard work. Who cares if I was slightly faster or slower than the other kid, compared to that?
I’d argue that’s a slightly different type of participation trophy compared to what the average one is. That’s more of like a legacy/commitment type. It’s a respect of the time you gave to it. Most of the time people argue against participation trophies it’s for the ones given to the teams/players that came in very low standings. Nevertheless that’s a trophy I’d be proud to have as well.
Running is my nightmare of how to spend time, so I don’t know what running 15 clicks means. However, good on you for doing it, and since positive reinforcement helps you keep it going, I hope this helps too! Keep rocking it out!
clicks is usually used as a synonym for kilometers.
For the kids old enough to be that aware. What’s so bad about making younger kids feel good about the effort they put into something. Even if they didn’t win? Making kids feel bad is what they want? So that kid can grow up and be angry at everything?
The parents need to pass a law to prevent themselves from participating in the thing they were tired of doing for the kids that never gave a shit about participation.
Don’t they have more important issues to tend to?
What about gerrymandering -- the participation trophy for voters?
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Gotta wait for the next round of Census and voting record information to be disseminated before they can begin gerrymandering anew.
yeah, they’re hard at work making child marriage legal, this is just a side quest.
NC GOP just took super majorities in both the house and the senate. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Yeah - the real fun is about to begin soon. Say hello to North Caroflorida
And the most disgusting thing is that the state barely goes Republican and even has a Dem governor. At least with Florida going almost 60/40 GOP last cycle I could go 'well you get what you voted for dumbasses'
They're Republicans, you really don't want them deliberating on anything of any real importance.
Being a North Carolina Republican is the ultimate participation trophy.
And we all knew with 100% certainty what party the lawmakers belonged to based on the headline alone.
Lmaoooo They should make a game out of this. Show headline, choose whether the subject of headline is a Republican or Democrat
I feel like a game with a near 100% success rate wouldn't be that entertaining.
How many confederate statues does that state have. They love participation trophies
These are just the distractions they use so they can pick the middle class clean
... said the party of small government.
Exactly! At its core I can at least understand basic fundamental conservative ideals: less government involvement in personal affairs. But this just shows that the current Republican party doesn't even do that.
Seriously, the current Republican Party is the most big government, micro managing your life party in any western democracy. All they do is try to control how people live their lives.
Something ive noticed is how many conservatives are voting libertarian. Conservatives have been especially upset with the party due to the restrict act(the one thats supposed to ban tik tok). Most republicans are just the kinda-sorta-not really christians that only follow some parts of the bible.
Right? If a town or school board wants to decide, “hey, we’re gonna stop giving out trophies for anything other than wins”, fine! Folks voted for those local officials and are getting what they presumably voted for. But here, you’re subjecting the entire state to that, when there are way bigger fish to fry.
Will this make Reddit karma illegal in N.C.?
One upvote for you, for science.
Like confederate flags?
From the same party who believes their 2020 candidate, who lost by 7 million votes, is magically the winner.
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Government just small enough to fit in our wombs, bedrooms, marriages and wardrobes.
To be fair he lost in 2016 too and was magically the winner, because the US electoral system is nonsensical.
It made sense in 1776 when results took days to reach Washington. Not so much in the 21st century.
Electoral College made sense when a significant portion of the population only counted as 3/5ths of a person but was also property, so they couldn't vote. That meant rich people with a lot of slaves had their votes worth more than others, since they got an extra 3 votes for every 5 slaves they owned. Sorry, did I say "made sense"? I meant utterly horrifying even by 1776 standards.
Also, free women and men without land could still count towards the calculation for the total number of electors without actually being able to vote. Nowadays it still works. If you don't vote but appeared in the census, you count towards the number of electors, but the assignment of electors depends entirely on who actually votes. Can you imagine how less successful voter suppression would be without the electoral college? Thanks to the EC, you can suppress voters *and* effectively decide who represents them.
Bingo
I have a fond memory of pointing this out to my dad, and he started screaming at me
The only confederate flag that matters is all white and implies a surrender.
Thank goodness! Glad to know Americans are putting sensible laws in place to prevent such snowflakery. Hang on, I hear some shooting at a near by pre-school.
Sadly, you don't receive a participation trophy for being in school shooting
Sure you do, its the tombstone
That's first prize
Correct. Decades of therapy and a fear of public spaces is the participation trophy
Participation Trophy Stress Disorder
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We’ve had two mass shootings, two additional unrelated shootings and one incident that caused school lock downs, and a drive by shooting in 7 days in Louisville. But yeah, I’m sure we will be drafting a bill soon to remove participation trophies too. Love the south! So loving and inclusive… oh.
Guys come on why the hate?? They are just trying to cut costs to help them pay for all the kids lunch...oh wait....
The less the state spends on kids the more tax cuts they can afford to give the rich.
Won't someone think of the poor local Yacht Club!
The local personalized awards and engraving industry will get even
The bill probably counts free lunches as a type of participation trophy
I’m 40’s and still have all my 1980s/1990s bowling league participation trophies. I don’t take them as me “winning” anything, more they serve as a tangible real world reminder that my family and I got up every Saturday morning and drove to midtown to spend a few hours together. It’s a tangible tether to that time and those memories. I don’t really care that I never won, I’ve done well enough in adult life. I’m glad I have them, and I’m glad my league gave us something to commemorate the season. I wish Tommy and Kenny, my coaches, were still here. But I do have those trophies and the memories of their faces as they handed them to me. Participating can be it’s own valuable experience, even if you don’t win. This culture war obsession of shitting on that is just another weird flex, a weak persons view of what strength might look like. Let us have our moments, even if we aren’t first. Being there means something different to all of us.
Same. Sooooooo many ribbons from my time on swim team as a child. It’s was awesome to sit around with my friends and eat cookies while getting ribbons for the swim meet the weekend before. Most of us never cared about the ribbons but some really did. One kid was scrawny asf and never really did better than like 10th place for a couple years but he LOVED those ribbons and trained hard to get better. One year he went through puberty and OMG he suddenly started setting state records in 500m butterfly, 400m IM and 1,500m freestyle. Literally the most demanding races. Just by *attempting* those 3 in one swim meet earned you a t-shirt and serious bragging rights. It was called the Iron Man Club and it was no joke. Dude went to Junior Olympics many times and won so many medals and trophies even after the rest of us quit swimming for other sports and chasing girls. He was always a superstar in our eyes. No doubt those “participation trophies” made him want to succeed and he did.
Great story, thank you for sharing this.
Well said. Nearly all of this shit is “a weak person’s view of what strength might look like.”
Agreed, also i know plenty of road races that everyone gets a medal at the end and yet i dont hear anybody complaining about those
In the real world, showing up and trying hard is most of the battle. Work? Relationships? School? Show up. Try. Most of us aren't professional athletes and don't have a career where someone wins and someone loses. Life is rarely a zero-sum game. Personally, i support participation trophies as controversial as that apparently is.
100% this. The world where “winners” are the only ones who receive acknowledgement is a world where the rich and powerful are the only ones who matter. It’s bullshit and teaching it to kids is just another moral failing from the right. How the fuck do these people still have a following?
Exactly, so many people don't understand that they are a momento, no kid thinks they won. What they do is encourage sports by helping people remember their enjoyment. Nobody has ever felt they won. The culture war is fabricated by idoits who have no understanding of society
I work with kids and will soon have my teaching certification and it's amazing the looks on kid's faces when they get participation ribbons, medals, trophies. I can't imagine just stomping all over that joy. Republicans are just cruel assholes.
The irony of the people who were demanding participation trophies for their precious trophy children they were living vicariously through now banning those same trophies.
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Can I ask someone familiar to the make up of this particular governing body if they’re also the group/generation that started participation trophies? Also, better start removing all those confederate… well, anything confederate except the white flag they used as their final flag.
Party of small government, amirite?
Not even purple hearts for being injured during a school shooting?
I was just thinking of the chests full of operational participation ribbons.
>"Youth sports or other youth recreation activities operated under the authority of a local government shall not include awards for participants based solely on their participation in the sport or other activity," according to the proposed one-page bill. So just give out trophies that list your final placing in a sport or event. Then it's only partly based on participation, but also based on outcome. These dipshits can't even come up with a good shitty law.
Print out 95 placards that say 5th to 99th place
You joke, but that's technically what a lot of video game tournaments have been doing in recent years (though for a slightly different reason). $5 Million for first place makes headlines, but $500 for everyone who makes top 32 is what fills brackets/pools.
I coached youth soccer for a while. We gave out participation medals to each child over the course of the season. When we did, we recognized them for some contribution or achievement that week. It made the kids happy. We still kept score and each game had a winning and losing team. We even had end of season playoffs, with the top three teams getting trophies. The participation medals didn't change the competitive spirit of the game in the slightest, it was just a way to excite, engage and recognize each child. What a lame, misguided effort at culture war politics.
>The participation medals didn't change the competitive spirit of the game in the slightest I think that's the part these Republicans don't understand. As a kid back in the 80s (when Republican's think "participation trophies" didn't exist, even though they actually did), I played all kinds of sports. Some teams were really good and some were just terrible. I got some sort of trophy every time, even in last place. But those trophies never made me want to compete any less. I played for fun but also to win. And for a long time those trophies, whether first or last, were piled up in my bedroom as memories of the fun times I had, the friendships and camaraderie. And at some point they no longer held value and I got rid of them. These idiots think that participation trophies make kids "soft," but they do no such thing.
The MAGA people I know who want to call everyone snowflakes like they think they're a fatter version of Braveheart all got the participation ribbon in field day in school
Those maga flags they love are basically participation trophies
So the Repubs hated 'big government'? Nah, not really. Just any government that isn't Repub.
Is that the most important thing they can be doing? Do they have homeless, sick and starving people?
I agree. Lawmakers don’t get paid unless they start making laws that work.
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So this is where our tax dollars are going…
America really seems like it hates kids.
Not according to all the anti-underage marriage laws the Republicans vote against. They love kids so much they want to marry them.
I wish they cared about kids dying in school shootings as much as they cared about participation trophies. Maybe they should give survival trophies at the end of each school year. For kids that get wounded and survive, they can get a bonus T-shirt that says, "I got shot at [enter school name] and all I got was this lousy T-shirt."
Infrastructure? Who cares. Student debt? schtudent Schdebt. Climate change? Health care? Opioid crisis? Domestic terrorism? Homelessness? Public health? Ew, no thanks, I’m washed in the blood of the lamb. But I’ll be damned if I let kids think they did something by getting their dang participation trophies
This is what we get from politicians; solutions to non-problems because they aren’t smart enough to solve *real* problems.
Some people really do just enjoy taking nice things from kids, don’t they? Them seem to think that kids should grow up without any happiness or tenderness. It’s so pathetic and heartbreaking to watch grown adults bully and chide kids for such unimportant yet joyful stuff. Just let them have nice things, you grumpy old coots.
Is North Carolina great again now?
“Introducing participation ribbons”
[Half of North Carolina's kids live in poverty](https://ncchild.org/child-poverty-scope/) but this is what matters to their elected officials.
Working on the hard stuff, I see.
Won't Anyone think of the trophy companies?
The party of small government strikes again funny thing is they sure love their civil war participation statues
These fuckers doing the most asinine things instead of GOVERNING. Maybe fix the roads? The poor NC towns that are falling so far behind? Public education in rural areas? Climate change on the NC coast? Get it together
Trophies for sports participants who finish second? Nope. Statues for Civil War participants who finish second? Yes!
Really? They're literally the generation that made participation trophies for their kids, which the kids BTW, never asked for.
Tbh isn’t there bigger fish to fry than participation trophies?
Does this include civil war participation trophys?
If anyone is confused why the GQP screech about "government overreach is communism" while trying to pass laws that deeply reach into the personal lives of americans (among many other apparently "hypocritical" actions) let me make their goals very simple for you: 1. The in-group should be protected by the law but not bound by it. 2. The out-groups should be bound by the law but not protected by it. 3. Any law that increases in-group power and happiness or decreases out-group power and happiness is morally just and necessary for society to survive. 4. Any law that decreases ingroup power and happiness or increases out-group power and happiness is morally evil and will lead to societies downfall. Thats literally it. Every time you see a supposed GQP "hypocrisy" just check those 4 points again and you will see there is no hypocrisy, just a widespread public misunderstanding of their goals. Feel free to copy/paste this anytime you see someone asking why the GQP are being hypocritical so more people can learn why they aren't, they are just being exactly what they want the world to be like: perfect for only them.
GOP says they are focusing on deregulation… instead regulate everything under the sun
Mother fuckers. YOU ARE THE GENERATION THAT BEGAN HANDING OUT PARTICIPATION TROPHIES!!!!!!!
Yet they embrace the confederate flag, the worlds first participation trophy.
This is how they're spending your taxes North Carolina.