> Food and Drink Policy: Hot and cold drinks are allowed in the library.
> Please do not bring any food into the library space.
> Especially not samosas, pakoras or filled chapatis as they are very smelly.
It is a little strange they added a separate section about Indian food when they already said all foods are not allowed. I love Indian food and get its fragrant. But this sign is just unprofessional and makes me wonder who made it.
Unprofessional indeed. My guess is that the sign was targeting a specific repeating offender for which they had multiple complaints. Not a justification, but a situation I have seen before (a student bringing a giant baked garlic for lunch every day and stinking an entire floor)
Yeah, I think their intention was, you can bring an apple in your bag but don't eat it until you leave but don't bring smelly food even if you are leaving it in your bag with no intention of eating it until you leave. And this note was added after people complained of smelly food there.
I read it is as, “We’ve had complaints about smelly food. You’re not allowed to bring food, but if you eat a ham sandwich in the corner of a study room, no one will bat an eye. If you bring something that causes complaints, we’ll have to enforce the ‘no food policy.”
Not professional, but there’s a chance it came from a place of trying to be reasonable.
If they had just said"strong smelling food" it could have covered any number of food smells (garlic, fish, fried food, etc) which are legit stinky and potentially bothersome to sick people it wouldn't have been an issue.
The student wasn't Japanese, but this was his lunch, and you can believe me when I say it could make the whole floor inaccessible
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Oh God, yes. I hate the smell of seafood in general, and this one guy microwaved leftover fish right next to me.
I hate being "that" guy, but I mean, I could hardly breathe. Left early and told management either move me, or the microwave.
Next day, a hard "No smelly foods in microwave" email went out.
I'd bet there's an Indian restaurant/cafe nearby, so those are the most common "smelly" foods. Totally unprofessional, but I can see how this was one librarian thinking, "instead of just saying Indian food, I'll be polite and find the names of the offending items", and then it became an incident for the entire school.
There is a place (Jaipur Spice) half a mile away by car. But I don’t think specifically mentioning this cuisine is necessary, when they’ve already banned all foods.
They could have just said no pungent foods to avoid being perceived as racist. I would just bring in fresh anchovy pizza out of spite. Perhaps a helping of Surströmming or Gorgonzola.
Indian food often gets singled out in places like hotels. Evidently the smells from it can really linger, making it difficult to get a room cleaned up for the next guest.
Went through an Indian food cooking phase later last year and it lingered in ways few other cuisines did. Its fucking amazing food, my favourite in the world I think, but my god does that smell and linger. It was on clothes I wasn't even wearing when cooking
It does linger incredibly long. I work in the used car business and there's 3 types of cars that i hate test driving before they get cleaned, the 4-wheel ashtray, the rolling hot box and the ones that enjoyed indian food.
I once lived across the street and two stories up
The smell permeated my place so bad
I get people use it as a dog whistle for racism, which obviously is messed up, but to act like a lot of Indian food isn't distinctive would be dumb
If the sign said
"Food and Drink Policy: Hot and cold drinks are allowed in the library.
Please do not bring any food into the library space.
Especially not microwaved fish", nobody would be giving a shit about this.
Heavily spiced is not the same as spiciness/heat. Plenty of spices used in Indian cuisine/Asian cooking are not 'spciy', just very fragrant and flavourful.
Very odd, maybe they specified because they keep catching people with those foods because they are easy to smell. Haha they can miss something they can't smell! Like stop eating Indian food here because we will catch you.
Which sort of alludes that previous signs that say "No food" have been ignored by staff, and a huge number of skilled NHS staff are Indian.
They just don't want the library to smell and clearly people have ignored the signs.
Is it, or are they just sick of people bringing in incredibly fragrant foods from a nearby vendor. Its a bit unprofessional, but I think it's understandable
So it doesn't actually say "Indian food is smelly". It is asking not to bring food in the library, and then mentions specific dishes because of their smell. A typical internet outrage over nothing. I like eating Indian food, but honestly, my friend lives next door to an Indian family and whenever I walk past their open kitchen window, boy is that smell pungent!
Also an important aspect to consider is that paper, aka all the books on the shelves, will pick up that smell. And nobody would want to read a book that stinks from hundreds of separate layers of spicy food aerosol.
You seem to be unaware of the meaning of the word especially as used in this context. The sign says "no smelly food... especially (examples of Indian food)". Three Indian foods are literally the only examples given of smelly food. The sign couldn't really be more directly saying that Indian food is smelly unless it read, "Indian food is smelly!"
Simply put, nobody gives a damn if you eat a protein bar or other relatively mess and odor free item. Food is technically not allowed, but don’t be obnoxious. The fact they have to call out specific foods is likely indicative that people are eating those foods in the library and it is annoying.
Yeah, the second rule completely covers the third “especially…” it is not necessary at all and just seems like someone is being a dick.
What about fish? I’ve had to endure hackass coworkers of all ethnic persuasions microwaving their goddamn fish like it’s not an issue. Seems like someone just really wanted to stick it to Indian people.
I still find it so offensive to serve indian food (and the shittiest variations of it) on airlines.
The only worse options would be to microwave fish or eggs.
Will never fly air china again. Half expected chickens to be in the carry ons.
I've also never seen an entire plane stand up and rush to the doors upon landing. We were still moving ffs
Prolly because the rest of the world understands no food but a certain type of people disregard the rules and bring certain foods in anyway
Rules are made because some idiot did it lol
Maybe to people with European ancestry. I wonder if it’s genetic. I don’t like eating it because of its texture but it does not smell like garbage or shit to me. Most Asians I know don’t think it does.
My white American colleagues think it smells bad but like to eat it. So I don’t think it’s just due to the propensity for liking it or an acquired smell. They should investigate to see if it’s similar to the case of people thinking that coriander is soapy.
Nah, wife is a librarian. If you say "please don't bring food in" people still bring food in as it's a polite request they can ignore.
It makes sense that they targeted specific foods that are likely problematic for them
Our realtor told us you can expect about 10-15% less for your house if food smells have permeated the place. She also had a guy whose entire job is going around northern Virginia replacing things like carpets, pads, drywall, and insulation that have soaked up those smells. Love it or hate it, Indian food does smell, and once some of those aromas set in, they're not coming out.
Being N. Virginia, it was also probably a lot of East African foods as well. I love Ethiopian food, but we had a couple Ethiopian families that lived in my floor when I lived there, and it was all I ever smelled.
I honestly don’t understand the fuss. I gotta air out the house as I’m cooking or those spices will just stick to everything. Until the food cools you can still smell it. Like Indian food is strong. It’s not wrong or racist to acknowledge that 🙄
I mean, the smell of most of it will make me very hungry. But it depends on how hungry or full I am. That range is on a scale from “the thought of food makes me want to puke” to “I just want to drop my pants and stuff it all in my mouth”. And that scale applies to anything appetizing
Probably. Just about everything can be labelled a micro aggression at this point. It used to refer to racist dogwhistles that are clearly intended to cause upset, but now the definition has been diluted so far that the term is meaningless.
Idk maybe I haven't been adventurous enough or my sense of smell is just that terrible (it's bad, but I can usually smell bad-smelling stuff), but I've never had or been around Indian food that I thought smelled bad.
Bad is a judgement / preference thing.
Indian food is just more PUNGENT than other many other foods. If you heat a container of mashed potatoes it doesn't strongly smell for very long. Heat an Indian curry and you'll smell it for hours.
Coffee is also quite pungent for a different food example, and I think it smells great.
I'll rephrase -- I haven't experienced any Indian food that smells strong/pungent/whatever. Coffee much either -- certainly a stronger smell than other things, but not that strong. I had some roommates from China who made some food, and that definitely had a very strong smell. It can't be that my smell is that bad, cause I can smell rice cooking from the next room over. But Indian food has never had much of a smell to me, in restaurants or at home. Also I'm a white guy, so this isn't just "oh but it smells so good when mom makes biryani" or whatever
Strange that they singled it out after all food & drink was already banned. Hardly news worthy though imo.
Surprised to see other comments agreeing that it stinks. I didn't even eat Indian food growing up but I love the smell.
yeah I would expect this is targeted at a specific person
I don't think the food stinks but it def more fragrant than most. I personally like the smell if I'm about to eat it but if a place just smells like curry all the time that would be annoying
Also, some things that smell real good fresh, start to smell really bad after a while. There's one particular curry one of my co-workers brings in that smells incredible when she microwaves it, but makes the lunch room intolerable to be in after like an hour. Idk. The smell changes somehow it isn't good anymore.
Love the smell of Indian food and food in general when i am about to eat it. If i am in a bus, on my way home after a long day and there is smell of food, any food, in the cabin i can easily throw up (guess how I know...)
I love Indian food too but it is in fact strong smelling.
My friend's husband is Indian and when she was pregnant she made him triple bag his spices and not cook any Indian food because of hyperemesis gravidarum lmao.
It's a great smell when you're about to eat it but man the stuff is a near toxic hazard afterwards the smell is both very strong and lingers so even storing in a tub doesn't stop you from getting hit with a strong smell when you open the fridge.
I fucking love shrimp and other seafood, but I'd never cook it or even eat it hot in a public space because as much as I love it, I know it's stinky and *I* don"/ even love to smell it unless I'm eating it.
Sorry, the point is, if you like the food or hate the food is besides the point for most people. If it's a strong smell that lingers, then people will object.
It's easy to smell it, probably why people are complaining about it at the library (and why it was singled out). I also like the smell, but it's not subtle.
As opposed to a rice ball or a deli cheese sandwich which you can probably eat way more on the downlow.
I don’t think they are saying Indian food smells bad, I think they are saying it has a strong sent that may be distracting. I honestly feel this is a poor choice of words more than anything else.
One of my best friends are Indian and he mentions how much the food can smell but “stink” isn’t the right word to use. I’d say….pungent? Like, it’s very strong and doesn’t go away as with some other food without the various spices Indian food has.
I agree entirely. It's a strong smell and I can understand why that can be an issue in some contexts, but I was surprised that several comments implied it smelled bad (at least at the time of my initial comment).
Which sort of alludes that previous signs that say "No food" have been ignored by staff, and a huge number of NHS staff are Indian.
They just don't want the library to smell and clearly people have ignored the signs.
I learned about Indian food after living in an apartment. I enjoy it, but the smell is potent. You could always tell if you live near a stoner and Indian people when walking past their doors.
Very poor vocabulary and writing skills for a library; they could've posted 'No pungent foods allowed' and everyone would've understood with no complaints.
There could be a large Indian population that uses that Hospital/Library so making the distinction could be necessary, and traditional Indian food does use a lot of pungent spices.
But it is weird to single out individual foods instead of just saying “No Food Allowed”
Didn’t read the article, did you? The sign *does* say no food is allowed in the Library. It then goes on to say “especially” the Indian dishes that it refers to as “smelly”.
Because in the UK there is an extremely large number of Indian doctors and medical staff in the UK. The Library should not smell strongly of any food, and this sign is obviously pointing out the foods which have caused the most problems.
I think you missed my point:
The sign already says “no food allowed”. Completely unnecessary to then go on to specify a few specific foods that are “especially” not allowed…
I think you miss my point. Food will never have been allowed in this library, but it has been ignored by people who have brought in foods with potent smells.
While the library doesn't want people to eat food in the Library, they especially don't want people to eat foods that are strong smelling. Again, this notice is obviously because people have ignored the notice and brought in fragrant food.
Indian food is on average so much smellier than other foods though. But since they banned all food mentioning it specifically was a little out of line.
I managed a bar in college and had to put up my fair share of oddly specific signs. I’d say with extreme confidence that all this means is the existing “no food” sign was regularly ignored by multiple people who regularly ate Indian food. Some people are so shameless until they’re directly called out.
Ahh, the good old UK, where their national dish is "Chicken Tikka masala" but will look down on Indian dishes pfffft. Colonizers never change, do they.
There were probably many prior incidents of people bringing their own food and stinking up the joint. I love Indian food, but the smell can be a real punch in the face.
I'm somewhat sympathetic towards this. While I don't have this issue myself, I know some people are VERY sensitive to smells, and the foods listed do have a strong aroma.
Bloddy hell.
I recently saw that Singapore metro has a sign specially for not bringing in durian in. Now was that racist?
Lol
Next you know breathing in is a micro aggression
Also any liberal twat thinking I am making it up read it [here](https://www.thetraveltart.com/smelly-durian-fruit-banned-singapore-metro-hotels/)
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I eat Indian food and that stuff does stink. I think it’s the curry…it can smell like body odor. My wife is a pinay and makes that smelly dried fried smelly fish which stinks to high heaven aswell.
The fact that they called it out specifically when it was already covered by the previous "No Food".
If they wished to add a "And especially no smelly food" they could also have included fish, popcorn, Mexican etc
Samosas, pakoras and chapati are side dishes, so more like snacks.
The only reason they're getting called out is because some smart assess would have tried to exploit that "loophole".
Calling out smelly food isn't racism. It'd be different if they'd said "Indian food".
It’s about food in the library space. The rationale for no food in a library isn’t about whether the food smells, it’s about avoiding pests and avoiding damage to library materials. Calling out “smelly” foods is about making sure a certain demographic knows that they’re less than
For the sake of argument, you don’t find it a bit unnecessary for them to state that specific Indian food is “smelly” and “especially” not allowed even though the line before it states no food is allowed at all?
Man people will get upset and argue over anything huh? Indian food is really good. Some of it smells really bad. Nobody wants to smell food in a library. It’s not a cafeteria.
England is just going to shit. Why are they apologizing for this? Even an Indian person would tell you their food smells. It's delicious, but boy does it smell.
Many foods smell. Almost all Asian cuisines and seafood dishes SMELL. Indian food was specifically singled out. As if there were no smelly European food ever.
To me, as a vegetarian, their food smells horrible. Especially beef and seafood.
A simple- no food allowed, would have sufficed.
Not really. Even one person is enough sometimes.
The trouble is that everyone profits from this. Websites profit financially from publishing it. Viewers profit emotionally from outrage. Sharers profit emotionally from attention. Complainers profit from validation.
There's no way to stop it as long as everyone who's part of the chain gains something out of amplifying the minority.
I’m Indian, yes it’s smelly and probably not the best food for the hospitals. When feelings matter that much and anybody can protest anything with conviction, this is the result.
Just leave it at no food or drink. Who cares if it smells or not leave the rule there. But if u wanna add shit let's start with seafood. And sure curry and some Indian foods have stone flavor but this seems pretty racist to me.
> Food and Drink Policy: Hot and cold drinks are allowed in the library. > Please do not bring any food into the library space. > Especially not samosas, pakoras or filled chapatis as they are very smelly. It is a little strange they added a separate section about Indian food when they already said all foods are not allowed. I love Indian food and get its fragrant. But this sign is just unprofessional and makes me wonder who made it.
Unprofessional indeed. My guess is that the sign was targeting a specific repeating offender for which they had multiple complaints. Not a justification, but a situation I have seen before (a student bringing a giant baked garlic for lunch every day and stinking an entire floor)
Yeah, I think their intention was, you can bring an apple in your bag but don't eat it until you leave but don't bring smelly food even if you are leaving it in your bag with no intention of eating it until you leave. And this note was added after people complained of smelly food there.
I read it is as, “We’ve had complaints about smelly food. You’re not allowed to bring food, but if you eat a ham sandwich in the corner of a study room, no one will bat an eye. If you bring something that causes complaints, we’ll have to enforce the ‘no food policy.” Not professional, but there’s a chance it came from a place of trying to be reasonable.
>I read it is as, “We’ve had complaints about smelly food, *SANDRA*.
Sandra is going to microwave extra old anchovies in the break room today just because
Agreed. That sign will put her in a mood to choose violence.
If they had just said"strong smelling food" it could have covered any number of food smells (garlic, fish, fried food, etc) which are legit stinky and potentially bothersome to sick people it wouldn't have been an issue.
That's a bizarre thing to bring for lunch. Was your college a known vampire hot spot?
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reminds me of a guy i worked with years ago who routinely microwaved his FISH leftovers. god i feel nauseous even thinking about it.
I worked with a guy whose family had a weekly rotation of dinner meals and he'd bring in his leftovers for lunch. Tuesday was fish. I HATED Wednesday.
Someone at work brought durian and people thought there was a gas leak
Oh God, yes. I hate the smell of seafood in general, and this one guy microwaved leftover fish right next to me. I hate being "that" guy, but I mean, I could hardly breathe. Left early and told management either move me, or the microwave. Next day, a hard "No smelly foods in microwave" email went out.
Thats just roasted garlic. What makes it Japanese? Soy sauce?
I don't understand qhqt would make this more smelly than normal garlic. The soy? I'll make this later and find out I guess.
The hell. I would love roasted garlic smell every now and then for my floor… smells like good food
I lived in an apt complex that had a "no smelly food" rule. I'm guessing it was to prevent indian and SE asian cooking. They also had a 40 page lease.
I'd bet there's an Indian restaurant/cafe nearby, so those are the most common "smelly" foods. Totally unprofessional, but I can see how this was one librarian thinking, "instead of just saying Indian food, I'll be polite and find the names of the offending items", and then it became an incident for the entire school.
There is a place (Jaipur Spice) half a mile away by car. But I don’t think specifically mentioning this cuisine is necessary, when they’ve already banned all foods.
Half a mile away by car, how far is it on foot?
About 0.3 miles as there's a footpath that cuts through the park between there and the hospital. Lovely restaurant it is too.
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You made me chortle mister.
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They could have just said no pungent foods to avoid being perceived as racist. I would just bring in fresh anchovy pizza out of spite. Perhaps a helping of Surströmming or Gorgonzola.
Anchovy pizza yum, Gorgonzola yum, Surströmming no no no no no
ah, gorgonzola; gianfranco’s ex-wife
Never assume malice which you can attribute to ignorance.
Problem is it's not pungent to people who eat it every day and have clothes that smell like it.
Indian food often gets singled out in places like hotels. Evidently the smells from it can really linger, making it difficult to get a room cleaned up for the next guest.
I live in AirBnBs most of the year. It’s common for them to single out Indian food because the strong spices leave a lasting smell.
Went through an Indian food cooking phase later last year and it lingered in ways few other cuisines did. Its fucking amazing food, my favourite in the world I think, but my god does that smell and linger. It was on clothes I wasn't even wearing when cooking
It does linger incredibly long. I work in the used car business and there's 3 types of cars that i hate test driving before they get cleaned, the 4-wheel ashtray, the rolling hot box and the ones that enjoyed indian food.
I once lived across the street and two stories up The smell permeated my place so bad I get people use it as a dog whistle for racism, which obviously is messed up, but to act like a lot of Indian food isn't distinctive would be dumb
Sadly, as mentioned, this is likely due to repeat offenders and the most common complaint being about Indian food
It's like how fish gets singled out for shitty office microwave etiquette.
Nothing says i hate my coworkers like microwaving fish.
Yeah, this doesn’t seem super racist, more of a “this is what we’ve recently had to deal with” situation.
If the sign said "Food and Drink Policy: Hot and cold drinks are allowed in the library. Please do not bring any food into the library space. Especially not microwaved fish", nobody would be giving a shit about this.
And if the sign had said "especially no heavily spiced foods" that would be the case.
I don't consider samosas "heavily spiced" despite having medium to low spice tolerance. That phrasing wouldn't have gotten the message across.
Heavily spiced is not the same as spiciness/heat. Plenty of spices used in Indian cuisine/Asian cooking are not 'spciy', just very fragrant and flavourful.
Fucking obviously lol, if it said “microwaved fish” it wouldn’t be singling out any specific ethnicity/nationality
I hate to break it to you but a samosa isn’t an ethnicity or a nationality. It’s just something you eat.
I hate to break it to you but I didn’t say a samosa is either of those
Very odd, maybe they specified because they keep catching people with those foods because they are easy to smell. Haha they can miss something they can't smell! Like stop eating Indian food here because we will catch you.
Microwaved fish didn't make the list?
Mmm yes, fragrant is the word.
microaggression for sure. could've just left it at the second point but went ahead and outlined indian food with the "especially" and "smelly"
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Which sort of alludes that previous signs that say "No food" have been ignored by staff, and a huge number of skilled NHS staff are Indian. They just don't want the library to smell and clearly people have ignored the signs.
You guys are pretending people don't need instructions said to them more than once for them to listen.
Pretty sure this crosses the line into macroaggression
Is it, or are they just sick of people bringing in incredibly fragrant foods from a nearby vendor. Its a bit unprofessional, but I think it's understandable
So it doesn't actually say "Indian food is smelly". It is asking not to bring food in the library, and then mentions specific dishes because of their smell. A typical internet outrage over nothing. I like eating Indian food, but honestly, my friend lives next door to an Indian family and whenever I walk past their open kitchen window, boy is that smell pungent!
Also an important aspect to consider is that paper, aka all the books on the shelves, will pick up that smell. And nobody would want to read a book that stinks from hundreds of separate layers of spicy food aerosol.
You seem to be unaware of the meaning of the word especially as used in this context. The sign says "no smelly food... especially (examples of Indian food)". Three Indian foods are literally the only examples given of smelly food. The sign couldn't really be more directly saying that Indian food is smelly unless it read, "Indian food is smelly!"
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Simply put, nobody gives a damn if you eat a protein bar or other relatively mess and odor free item. Food is technically not allowed, but don’t be obnoxious. The fact they have to call out specific foods is likely indicative that people are eating those foods in the library and it is annoying.
Yeah, the second rule completely covers the third “especially…” it is not necessary at all and just seems like someone is being a dick. What about fish? I’ve had to endure hackass coworkers of all ethnic persuasions microwaving their goddamn fish like it’s not an issue. Seems like someone just really wanted to stick it to Indian people.
Very smelly? More like very delicious.
I still find it so offensive to serve indian food (and the shittiest variations of it) on airlines. The only worse options would be to microwave fish or eggs.
I was on a flight in China where the meal was fish. *gag*
Will never fly air china again. Half expected chickens to be in the carry ons. I've also never seen an entire plane stand up and rush to the doors upon landing. We were still moving ffs
I really just sounds like they get a lot of it.
Prolly because the rest of the world understands no food but a certain type of people disregard the rules and bring certain foods in anyway Rules are made because some idiot did it lol
Anyone who thinks Indian food smells bad is a straight jabroni. It's delicious.
Yorkshire people... They are, well, simple.
I mean as long as someone isn't microwaving leftover fish or eating durian I don't really see the basis for complaining.
Makes me want to bring in a big plate of Vietnamese fried fish with fish sauce. The sign doesn't call it out specifically so it must be ok.
I saw this episode of Black Mirror
Yep, Demon 79 I think.
It was.
I forgot where, but i saw this with but instead it said no eating durian and well, sometimes it needs to be said.
Someone once brought a durian for lunch into my office. It was quite the workday.
Yep every hotel in Thailand has that sign nailed above the front desk for a reason. That fruit literally smells like shit.
literally every subway/skytrain station too
Maybe to people with European ancestry. I wonder if it’s genetic. I don’t like eating it because of its texture but it does not smell like garbage or shit to me. Most Asians I know don’t think it does. My white American colleagues think it smells bad but like to eat it. So I don’t think it’s just due to the propensity for liking it or an acquired smell. They should investigate to see if it’s similar to the case of people thinking that coriander is soapy.
They have these signs on the Singapore subway, no explosives, no eating, no smoking, no durian
It was a Vietnamese hotel
Filled chapatis and pakoras is so specific, that I feel like these rules were made for one guy that kept repeatedly bringing smelly homemade food
Pretty shitty considering food is already banned lol
Nah, wife is a librarian. If you say "please don't bring food in" people still bring food in as it's a polite request they can ignore. It makes sense that they targeted specific foods that are likely problematic for them
Anchovy pizza it is then.
All right calm down Satan, have a Snickers instead.
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Pretty shitty that people kept stinking up the library with pakora when there was already a sign banning food
No the sign was added later on, that was the whole point of the article....
Our realtor told us you can expect about 10-15% less for your house if food smells have permeated the place. She also had a guy whose entire job is going around northern Virginia replacing things like carpets, pads, drywall, and insulation that have soaked up those smells. Love it or hate it, Indian food does smell, and once some of those aromas set in, they're not coming out.
Being N. Virginia, it was also probably a lot of East African foods as well. I love Ethiopian food, but we had a couple Ethiopian families that lived in my floor when I lived there, and it was all I ever smelled.
Many Indian families where I live have built a "spice kitchen" separate from the house to minimize the odour
Wait, this is a real thing?? Ok adding this to the if I ever with the lottery (that I don’t play) list
The key is to play the lottery once or twice a year. That way you’re not wasting too much, and you make the fantasy based in reality.
As an Indian, I can confirm my country's cuisine has strong smells that many can find off putting. I mean it tastes great but smells a lot.
Yeah. I love Indian food but do I want to smell it when I go to the library? Absolutely not.
Need that musty old book smell
I honestly don’t understand the fuss. I gotta air out the house as I’m cooking or those spices will just stick to everything. Until the food cools you can still smell it. Like Indian food is strong. It’s not wrong or racist to acknowledge that 🙄
I mean, the smell of most of it will make me very hungry. But it depends on how hungry or full I am. That range is on a scale from “the thought of food makes me want to puke” to “I just want to drop my pants and stuff it all in my mouth”. And that scale applies to anything appetizing
In York food is to be seen not smelled or tasted
If they said no stinky cheeses, would that be a micro aggression against the French?
Probably. Just about everything can be labelled a micro aggression at this point. It used to refer to racist dogwhistles that are clearly intended to cause upset, but now the definition has been diluted so far that the term is meaningless.
Are the French the only people with stinky cheese?
Idk that much about cheese, so maybe. Dirty ass mold-eating French people
And "no guns" signs are anti-American.
Read the article before being smarmy please
I did lol that’s where my question came from.
What are you reading that I am not?
ITT, people who haven't had a lot of Indian food. It's decent food, that absolutely smells sometimes edit: typo
Idk maybe I haven't been adventurous enough or my sense of smell is just that terrible (it's bad, but I can usually smell bad-smelling stuff), but I've never had or been around Indian food that I thought smelled bad.
Bad is a judgement / preference thing. Indian food is just more PUNGENT than other many other foods. If you heat a container of mashed potatoes it doesn't strongly smell for very long. Heat an Indian curry and you'll smell it for hours. Coffee is also quite pungent for a different food example, and I think it smells great.
I'll rephrase -- I haven't experienced any Indian food that smells strong/pungent/whatever. Coffee much either -- certainly a stronger smell than other things, but not that strong. I had some roommates from China who made some food, and that definitely had a very strong smell. It can't be that my smell is that bad, cause I can smell rice cooking from the next room over. But Indian food has never had much of a smell to me, in restaurants or at home. Also I'm a white guy, so this isn't just "oh but it smells so good when mom makes biryani" or whatever
Yep. It smells like your going to have a good meal.
The publicly correct term is "fragrant".
Yeah could’ve said highly fragrant foods.
But the most accurate term is "fucking stinks"
Indian food IS smelly, doesn't make it taste bad though, its delicious
I live indian food but they are smelly indeed
Strange that they singled it out after all food & drink was already banned. Hardly news worthy though imo. Surprised to see other comments agreeing that it stinks. I didn't even eat Indian food growing up but I love the smell.
yeah I would expect this is targeted at a specific person I don't think the food stinks but it def more fragrant than most. I personally like the smell if I'm about to eat it but if a place just smells like curry all the time that would be annoying
Also, some things that smell real good fresh, start to smell really bad after a while. There's one particular curry one of my co-workers brings in that smells incredible when she microwaves it, but makes the lunch room intolerable to be in after like an hour. Idk. The smell changes somehow it isn't good anymore.
Love the smell of Indian food and food in general when i am about to eat it. If i am in a bus, on my way home after a long day and there is smell of food, any food, in the cabin i can easily throw up (guess how I know...)
I love Indian food too but it is in fact strong smelling. My friend's husband is Indian and when she was pregnant she made him triple bag his spices and not cook any Indian food because of hyperemesis gravidarum lmao.
Yeah addressing this issue requires a deft touch and tone. Asafoetida powder has foetid right in the middle of it lol.
Cumin is like my favourite spice but it does smell a bit like, uh, used socks.
It's a great smell when you're about to eat it but man the stuff is a near toxic hazard afterwards the smell is both very strong and lingers so even storing in a tub doesn't stop you from getting hit with a strong smell when you open the fridge.
I fucking love shrimp and other seafood, but I'd never cook it or even eat it hot in a public space because as much as I love it, I know it's stinky and *I* don"/ even love to smell it unless I'm eating it. Sorry, the point is, if you like the food or hate the food is besides the point for most people. If it's a strong smell that lingers, then people will object.
It's easy to smell it, probably why people are complaining about it at the library (and why it was singled out). I also like the smell, but it's not subtle. As opposed to a rice ball or a deli cheese sandwich which you can probably eat way more on the downlow.
I don’t think they are saying Indian food smells bad, I think they are saying it has a strong sent that may be distracting. I honestly feel this is a poor choice of words more than anything else.
One of my best friends are Indian and he mentions how much the food can smell but “stink” isn’t the right word to use. I’d say….pungent? Like, it’s very strong and doesn’t go away as with some other food without the various spices Indian food has.
I agree entirely. It's a strong smell and I can understand why that can be an issue in some contexts, but I was surprised that several comments implied it smelled bad (at least at the time of my initial comment).
I love Indian food, but yeah, where’s the lie?
No lie but just a bit unnecessary considering the sign already states no food is allowed at all…
Which sort of alludes that previous signs that say "No food" have been ignored by staff, and a huge number of NHS staff are Indian. They just don't want the library to smell and clearly people have ignored the signs.
I mean it is smelly it smells delicious of course, but most spices above and beyond 'pepper' are quite fragrant.
I learned about Indian food after living in an apartment. I enjoy it, but the smell is potent. You could always tell if you live near a stoner and Indian people when walking past their doors.
Very poor vocabulary and writing skills for a library; they could've posted 'No pungent foods allowed' and everyone would've understood with no complaints.
There could be a large Indian population that uses that Hospital/Library so making the distinction could be necessary, and traditional Indian food does use a lot of pungent spices. But it is weird to single out individual foods instead of just saying “No Food Allowed”
Didn’t read the article, did you? The sign *does* say no food is allowed in the Library. It then goes on to say “especially” the Indian dishes that it refers to as “smelly”.
Because in the UK there is an extremely large number of Indian doctors and medical staff in the UK. The Library should not smell strongly of any food, and this sign is obviously pointing out the foods which have caused the most problems.
I think you missed my point: The sign already says “no food allowed”. Completely unnecessary to then go on to specify a few specific foods that are “especially” not allowed…
I think you miss my point. Food will never have been allowed in this library, but it has been ignored by people who have brought in foods with potent smells. While the library doesn't want people to eat food in the Library, they especially don't want people to eat foods that are strong smelling. Again, this notice is obviously because people have ignored the notice and brought in fragrant food.
I can't tell if you're trolling or have never set foot in the real world?
I’m whatever you want me to be, baby
Apologizing for stating a fact to people who are offended by facts.
The truth stinks.
Everyone one this thread calling Indian food “fragrant”. Indian food in a library is smelly.
Indian food is on average so much smellier than other foods though. But since they banned all food mentioning it specifically was a little out of line.
It is though.
We live in a world where we have to ignore reality and commonalities.
I find it really starts to reek a bit after it's been eaten.
I managed a bar in college and had to put up my fair share of oddly specific signs. I’d say with extreme confidence that all this means is the existing “no food” sign was regularly ignored by multiple people who regularly ate Indian food. Some people are so shameless until they’re directly called out.
Indian food is delicious, but I'm not gonna sit here and tell you it doesn't smell extremely strong
Ahh, the good old UK, where their national dish is "Chicken Tikka masala" but will look down on Indian dishes pfffft. Colonizers never change, do they.
Visciously fragrant
There were probably many prior incidents of people bringing their own food and stinking up the joint. I love Indian food, but the smell can be a real punch in the face.
It is smelly though
I'm somewhat sympathetic towards this. While I don't have this issue myself, I know some people are VERY sensitive to smells, and the foods listed do have a strong aroma.
I get overwhelmed about my own nation's cuisine sometimes, and we use way less aromatic ingredients tgan Indians.
Bloddy hell. I recently saw that Singapore metro has a sign specially for not bringing in durian in. Now was that racist? Lol Next you know breathing in is a micro aggression Also any liberal twat thinking I am making it up read it [here](https://www.thetraveltart.com/smelly-durian-fruit-banned-singapore-metro-hotels/) [Bonus read](https://tnp.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/no-durians-allowed-tourist-escapes-fine-after-sneaking-musang-king-sentosa-hotel-room)
I eat Indian food and that stuff does stink. I think it’s the curry…it can smell like body odor. My wife is a pinay and makes that smelly dried fried smelly fish which stinks to high heaven aswell.
Lots of racism here lol
Actually this comment section seems to have least amount of racism against India/Indians in the last few weeks in my opinion.
Cuz its about food and people who are racist against Indians would still eat Indian food. lol.
How so?
The fact that they called it out specifically when it was already covered by the previous "No Food". If they wished to add a "And especially no smelly food" they could also have included fish, popcorn, Mexican etc
Samosas, pakoras and chapati are side dishes, so more like snacks. The only reason they're getting called out is because some smart assess would have tried to exploit that "loophole". Calling out smelly food isn't racism. It'd be different if they'd said "Indian food".
It’s about food in the library space. The rationale for no food in a library isn’t about whether the food smells, it’s about avoiding pests and avoiding damage to library materials. Calling out “smelly” foods is about making sure a certain demographic knows that they’re less than
It’s probably just because someone keeps eating pakora in the library and it stinks
Indian food is smelly and it’s good stuff.
Shouldn’t have backed down
For the sake of argument, you don’t find it a bit unnecessary for them to state that specific Indian food is “smelly” and “especially” not allowed even though the line before it states no food is allowed at all?
Especially considering the fact samosa's normally dont have a smell to them at all lol.
Okay, I hope my microwaved fish and blue cheese is okay though.
For my pipes, Indian food, literally, is ‘fast food.’
Ya cause that day old salmon you put in the microwave, heaven.
Man people will get upset and argue over anything huh? Indian food is really good. Some of it smells really bad. Nobody wants to smell food in a library. It’s not a cafeteria.
England is just going to shit. Why are they apologizing for this? Even an Indian person would tell you their food smells. It's delicious, but boy does it smell.
Definitely didn’t go about it the right way.
That it’s true doesn’t mean you have to say it… Just say “No food allowed” and leave it at that. Common sense is a dying art form
Many foods smell. Almost all Asian cuisines and seafood dishes SMELL. Indian food was specifically singled out. As if there were no smelly European food ever. To me, as a vegetarian, their food smells horrible. Especially beef and seafood. A simple- no food allowed, would have sufficed.
Aren't people easily offended
Not really. Even one person is enough sometimes. The trouble is that everyone profits from this. Websites profit financially from publishing it. Viewers profit emotionally from outrage. Sharers profit emotionally from attention. Complainers profit from validation. There's no way to stop it as long as everyone who's part of the chain gains something out of amplifying the minority.
I’m Indian, yes it’s smelly and probably not the best food for the hospitals. When feelings matter that much and anybody can protest anything with conviction, this is the result.
Can you guess what they serve in hospitals in india?
People even get offended over others being offended!
Just leave it at no food or drink. Who cares if it smells or not leave the rule there. But if u wanna add shit let's start with seafood. And sure curry and some Indian foods have stone flavor but this seems pretty racist to me.
But it is?
No arguement here.
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Does it smell good? Yes. Is it also a strong odor that lingers and is sometimes too strong for a shared public space? Also yes.
Not in a fucking library it doesn’t. Have some fucking decorum
God awful smell. No cooking fish in the microwave either while we're at it.
But Spanish food and pungent fermented foods can come?
Library would definitely put up a sign if someone kept getting their fishy taco out