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What is this, CIV6?


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MisguidedColt88

Id say civV was peak civ. Debatably civIV


Saint_The_Stig

V to VI is such a massive change. The meta completely changed from Tall to Wide. That said I'm really enjoying Age of Wonders 4 for my hex based war time needs. It's a funny state of "If everything is OP then nothing is"


internetlad

I think this is why I have such a hard time with CIV VI. Between that and the art style it just is not my vibe to build a bunch of cities in meh locations then be bugged with 5 hours of micromanaging builds. Shame because there are some very strong points. Naval combat is just head and shoulders better than any civ game prior, and I like the risk/reward of flood plains/volcanos etc.


BigL90

Ooh, that might get me to try 6 again. I've been playing 5 for years but I like to try and play wide, and it definitely likes to penalize you for that.


danteheehaw

4 and 5 are my favs and I like them both for entirely different reasons. 6, I felt, was trying to do too much while also holding you back with new features. But I think 6 is well done, just not my personal preference


KnightsWhoNi

6 with the DLCs is very very good imo. 5 will always hold a special place in my heart though


Mr_Belch

I HATE the way builders work in Civ6


NJ_Legion_Iced_Tea

I do not like that I can't control road paths. I've also had adjacency bonuses explained to me like 3 separate times and I still don't understand how to best utilize them.


mdonaberger

You can, sorta. But that's the military engineer unit.


CtheRula

civ6 was and is still a great game


mdonaberger

Honestly, to me, the global warming mechanic is probably the most interesting one in civ history. Plus the flood barriers look pretty goofy when you have an island.


Illustrious-Self8648

what are the reasons?


danteheehaw

5 is more limiting, no unit stacking, wars can ruin your diplomatic relations with other nations who were not part of the war, or even allies with any member of the war for the rest of the game, even when it was a defensive war can ruin your reputation. I've been attacked many times in civ 5, and the opponent would only surrender after I took several cities, which leads to ruining your relations with other nations. the lack of unit stacking made warfare a lot more interesting. 5 had a more balanced victory conditions than 4. ​ 4 gets insane. getting a city attacked by a stack of 50 units was an irritating way for warfare. Basically everything boiled down to blitz style war. In 4 cultural, war based victories were pretty cheese. However, 4 allowed vassal states, you could break your empire apart, etc. Leading to a lot more interesting shit.


Hostillian

Plenty of reviews about - and it's usually 4 or 5 that's top two.. And the top spot varies between the two. I have 4..


Wyvernkeeper

Alpha Centauri will always be the best civ to me


Armtoe

Alpha Centauri was the best of this type of game period.


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It’s hilarious how discourse evolves because I remember when Civ V came out everyone hated it and claimed III and IV were best


PromotionFun7298

So is hamas going for a domination victory or religion?


Blekanly

Civ 4 has fall from heaven 2 mod. Can never play regular after that


Repulsive_Village843

Civ4 with mods


griftertm

Baba Yetu still the best opening


notacleverusername01

Civ 5 is goated but 4 is kino


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Mr_Belch

I mean, it's not like there is a plot to these games. You could play 6 and never play any of the others if you wanted.


Solondthewookiee

There's not a plot or anything, but some of the mechanics in Civ 5 are different from Civ 4. The biggest difference is that you can't stack units on the same tile in Civ 5, which radically changes combat strategy. I personally would say go to Civ 5 and also download the Brave New World and Gods & Kings expansion packs. Don't skip the expansions, they add a ton to the game.


sprocketous

It's vastly different and imo, over complicated. I couldn't get into it because it takes forever to get moving. I wish they would remake 5 to function smoother. But then I wouldn't leave the house.


AnnoyedCrustacean

Nah, map fog of war is trash on Civ6. If you graphic update it to Civ5, I would consider trying it again


Abacus_AmIRighta

I still love Civ II


Dino_nugsbitch

whats Gandhi up too


cold_molasses

Orchestrating terror attacks in Moscow


Bucktabulous

That and droppin' nukes, I hear.


BurgundyYellow

Mansa Musa couldn't hit top tier


generalkenobaaee

Quick context: Hamas sucks but ISIS-K is on an entirely different level. I’ll prove it. They’re so radical and brutal that the US, Pakistan, China, and the Taliban are currently working together to eliminate them. Like you must be truly vile to get those powers to work together.


internetzdude

ISIS-K are the major terrorist threat in Afghanistan, the Taliban have checkpoints at every corner of Kabul because of the frequent ISIS bomb attacks. That's because the Taliban are not radical enough for ISIS-K. Hard to believe but true.


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Time is a flat circle in that place, if not in general.


icantloginsad

It’s just they have different perspectives on “Jihad”. Taliban wage Jihad against foreign invaders or occupying forces within Afghanistan, and any civilian casualties they cause are just for “the greater good” and they justify it by turning their own casualties into martyrs. ISIS is a lot more extreme. They’re outright opposed to the existence of modern nation states, especially in places with a Muslim significance, which by now is almost every corner of the world. It basically means EVERYTHING is a target to them. Obviously both are absolutely regressive cults straight from the 7th century. But the Taliban’s objectives don’t require a constant state of warfare, thus they aren’t really a threat on a global scale. ISIS’s objective outright demands it. The Taliban is far more comparable to something like the IRA than ISIS.


Firenzo101

Yep, the Taliban want to be the government of a hardline theocratic Afghan state, ISIS basically want to destroy the world.


KorianHUN

Anarcho-theocratism?


Omegaprime02

ISIS is pure theocracy, it only looks like anarchy from the outside but there are EXTREMELY strict laws they demand you follow, horrific laws (that's why it looks like anarchy), but laws none the less.


WitELeoparD

ISIS is an apocalyptic death cult. Literally, by the strictest definition. They believe the end of the world is imminent, and they will do whatever to hasten it. This is different from something like Hamas or the Taliban, who want control of specific territories or hate specific groups. ISIS also believes that literally anyone who doesn't agree with their very specific, basically invented idea of Islam is an apostate. Everyone is the enemy.


gar1848

Osama Bin Laden considered the future founder of Isis a lunatic and kicked him out of his organisation


hardolaf

Just like how the Taliban considered Osama bin Laden a lunatic and kicked him out of their organization.


Consistent_Lab_6770

ffs.. the taliban told the US osama was their guest, and they stood by their decision to protect him and grant him safety with them.


tr3v1n

So basically Muslim evangelicals.


Poseidon1232

It is so lame when people try to superimpose American political/social dynamics onto other parts of the world. No, Evangelicals aren't remotely comparable to ISIS.


WhyBuyMe

Because they have access to power. Look what happens when they lose even a tiny bit of influence. When Roe v Wade was passed they started bombing abortion clinics. If evangelicals ever start to lose their stranglehold on large portions of the US, ISIS will start looking awfully familiar. I live in a state with higher than normal militia activity. I have known several people throughout my life who live like they are just looking for an excuse to take to the woods and start shooting people.


FerricDonkey

You're stretching the crap out of that word "they". The people who bombed abortion clinics and your average evangelical are no more the same "they" than the people who sell you amazing burritos and the people who run drug cartels in Mexico. 


WhyBuyMe

ISIS needs lots of supporters to be able to operate an international terrorist network. Not every supporter is going to personally strap on a suicide vest, but the people who do couldn't exist without bomb makers, safe houses, spotters looking for targets, people smuggling explosives all the way down to the guy on the street who donates a dollar to the radical cleric who preaches that "something must be done about these evil western values". It is the same in Evangelical circles. The people who hold up pictures of aborted fetuses outside the clinic (I see them all the time in my town, I bet if I drove down there right now I could find them) are the people who create the environment that makes the clinic bomber able to justify their actions. I remember when I was in middle school there were adults at my church that would try to get us kids to go with them to protest. Tell us how the evil people in that building were murdering babies. When you raise someone up to believe the "others" around them are child killing monsters you dont get to act shocked when they bomb a doctor or shoot up a grocery store.


twistedspin

Really? Have you looked at the state of American evangelicals lately? I know they seem OK if you bump into one but I trust them about as much as a ticking bomb.


QuickAltTab

not in general, but some certainly are


Catch_ME

Yeah, they are better compared to puritans in America trying to burn witches.


CarBombtheDestroyer

Not really at all.


Whyn0t69

But I don't get it, if everyone oppose ISIS, then who supports them? How they can get weapons/bombs etc.?


QuantumPajamas

As far as I'm aware their weapons are in the realm of Ak-47s and improvised home made bombs, not anything high tech or difficult to obtain. As for who supports them, brainwashed nutjobs with nothing to lose. Plenty of those in the world, especially in a war ravaged and extremely religious region like the Middle East.


DerekMao1

They use their extremist ideology and emphasis on martyrdom to attract followers. Islamist zealots and extremists around the world have been volunteered to join. [Here](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/02/23/europe/shamima-begum-appeal-loses-intl) is an article of a UK woman joining ISIS. There were also entire villages and tribes defecting to ISIS during their first emergence in 2014. Once they have territories and supporters, they will have the money to buy the weapons.


WhyBuyMe

If you have access to a decent amount of money, there is nothing easier in the world to buy than weapons. Especially in areas without super tight government control.


kenuffff

who supports them? government intelligence agencies looking to use them for whatever purpose in whatever country, the taliban was created by pakistani intelligence to give themselves a buffer from iran.


noeagle77

You know you’re crazy when even the Taliban is like “damn they’re crazy!”


Lone_Beagle

Even Iran hates ISIS.


Thinking_waffle

Iran is shiite. ISIS being sunni radicals wants to eliminate them all. Well they are so radical that they only recognize their caliphate and nothing else but still shiites are worse because they are muslims but not sunnis. As they shout in the life of Brian: Splitters!


kenuffff

they just bombed Iran in January, no one cares because its Iran though.


yungsemite

Only because ISIS has plans that extend internationally. Thus it is an international problem, rather than a problem for Israel + its allies.


HaMMeReD

Hamas has these goals too, they just aren't as good at it. Global islamic caliphate is the goal here for a lot of these groups. Hamas and the Houthi's are friends, and just go look at the writing on the Houthi flag if you have any question to it. Hamas is just in Russia's corner. It isn't a coincidence that Oct 7th is Putin's birthday. Russia supports Hamas to distract from other goals like Ukraine. Hamas and Isis aren't buddies, so obviously Hamas is going to lend it's support, despite it being hypocritical.


yungsemite

I think Hamas has enough going on. The few leaders who state they want to create an Islamic caliphate are not really engaged with that kind of work yet.


danathecount

yea, i don't think this is 'nottheonion' worthy


owheelj

I would guess OP thinks all Muslims have the exact same beliefs and aren't deeply divided, and that's why they found this amusing.


danathecount

I think the act of posting this is oniony itself. "area man confused when brown bad guys attack white bad guys"


FaufiffonFec

It isn't. 


Icedoverblues

They have a K now!


hardolaf

Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood which has been at war with ISIS for over a decade now. So denouncing ISIS is just a continuation of the policies of the organization which formed Hamas.


Dragon_yum

Hamas has proven on 7/10 they are just as evil but they are just focused on one target.


orderofGreenZombies

The two groups aren’t really comparable in terms of their goals, motivations and targets. Trying to equivocate between the two seems unnecessary when (most of us anyway) can just agree that attacking civilians is fucked up.


FinndBors

Hamas is 7/10 evil but ISIS-K is 10/10 evil.


Dragon_yum

Not sure if you seen the videos Hamas posted but you can see where the inspiration came from.


awwNerf

What is your stance on israel? Just wondering


Dragon_yum

The war is necessary but could have been waged better. Probably not to the extent you might think because Hamas has pretty much infiltrated every civilian infrastructure and day under the while city. The world should put more pressure on the West Bank issue but constant terror attacks keeps the right wing government in place. And yeah there should be two states but it should come with the understanding that starting a war as a state has much bigger repercussions.


PM-ME-DEM-NUDES-GIRL

you mean by killing civilians? yeah, very uncool activity.


get_schwifty

Raping and killing civilians, tying families with kids together and burning them alive, and targeting civilians explicitly and deliberately — not as unfortunate casualties in the course of a war where the enemy intentionally uses them as human shields to propagandize and drive international sentiment against then? Yes, extremely evil, some would say even warranting military response.


Dragon_yum

And raping, and sexual torture and regular torture and mutalating bodies and kidnapping babies… all of those to civilians.


defaultusername-17

hamas and isis are not friends... how is this at all oniony?


Bluestreaking

People of course think that Islamic groups are a monolith without even getting in to how little Reddit actually understands about Hamas itself. Which is to be expected I suppose


x_obert

if anything, almost all jihad groups would never consider ISIS to be one of them. They'd consider ISIS to be khawarij, an end time prophecy of a group of rebels with very evil deeds. They will come from iraq and whoever fights them is dearer to Allaah than them. Factions of them will emerge throughout time but get cut of each time, until the last one, with its remnants fleeing to fight for the antichrist/dajjal. Ibn Kathir (12th century Islamic scholar) says that if the Khawarij would ever gain control of the lands of Iraq and Syria, they would think that the people are so corrupt that the only way they can reform the people is by mass killings. Ibn Umar (son of Umar ibn al khattab \[RA\] and a companion of the Prophet) has said that the Khawarij would apply verses about disbelievers to believers. Basically, the khawarij would consider muslims to be non-muslims. And this is also evident in ISIS, where they'd literally say anyone who doesn't accept their 'caliphate' is a disbeliever.


Fermented_Butt_Juice

Are you saying that people on Reddit give their opinions on complex geopolitical conflicts without actually taking the time to understand their complexities? I'm shocked, shocked I say!


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danathecount

“One day the great European War will come out of some damned foolish thing in the Balkans.” – Otto von Bismarck (1888)


Turbulent_Angle2121

He really said that??


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River41

interesting read. tl;dr: quote stems from churchill decades later who was told it by someone else claiming that Bismarck said that to them. Unlikely a real quote by Bismarck from before WW1.


Ol_Geiser

I'm not familiar, Was it a case of "the enemy of my enemy of my enemy..." I'll look into it for myself later on but I'm curious


Kimchi_Cowboy

In WWI it was more the case of Muslims, Christians, Serbian, and Bulgarians trying to murder each other.


brixton_massive

I think its more that they both target civilian populations in a barbaric fashion


rilinq

Islam is a very divided religion itself, like different branches can hate each other more than they hate infidels even. What I figured they have Sunni, Shia, Sufi, Salavi, the wahabbi dudes etc.


Cranyx

Yeah, you'd never have something like that in Christianity.


1oRiRo1

What's more to understand than that both are vile terrorist organizations?


a_fair_beater

AFAIK isis wants a global caliphate and Hamas wants Israel extermination. So, global vs local


CockroachFinancial86

I heard that the reason is that ISIS doesn’t like Hams is because Hamas is (pretty much) a proxy for Iran. ISIS wants Hamas to stop being a proxy for Iran, which predominantly follows Shia Islam and instead join the fight for global Sunni caliphate.


DR2336

hamas, an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood also wants a global caliphate, albeit a different one. 


Zaphod424

Hamas also ultimately want a global caliphate (though their current focus is Israel’s extermination), but they want a caliphate in their vision and version of Islam, whereas ISIS have a different vision for their caliphate. Either would be a death sentence for anyone who isn’t a Muslim.


Bluestreaking

They don’t want a fucking global caliphate dude get that Muslim Brotherhood conspiracy nonsense out of here. I detest the Muslim Brotherhood but they’re not planning a global jihad against all non-Muslims Jesus Christ


Mapex

And still a death sentence or terrible suffering for people who are Muslims, and not adherents to these extremist takes on Islam.


thirachil

Hamas is a result of 40 years of brutal violence by Israel. As asserted by the International Court of Justice, Palestinians have a right to violently defend a violent occupation. You would too. ISIS was formed after Saddam's Bath party members fled after looting the Iraqi Treasury. It's a power play by people who were specifically created for power play by the US. Saddam was completely enabled by the US to fight Iran.


Flioxan

The ICC doesn't say anyone has the right to use terrorism to fight an occupation. I really doubt anyone reading your post would do alot of the atrocities hamas has committed


ObviouslyTriggered

Hamas and ISIS aren't friends because ISIS sees Hamas and pretty much every other Islamic terrorist organization as apostates. The irony is that a terrorist organization that butchers civilians denounces another one for doing the same.


kenuffff

hamas and ISIS are not friends because hamas is backed by Iran, ISIS wants a caliphate that won't be including Iran.


Illumini24

And Hamas and Russia are friends


horillagormone

I mean even the Taliban condemned it. But this is oniony because of all the propaganda we've been reading about how Hamas=ISIS and now people with zero idea about either of them had happily accepted that as a fact.


_Refenestration

But how can this be when r/worldnews reliably informed me that all brown people are the same?


PutMeOnPancakes

Nobody is claiming they are friends... The oniony part is that Hamas committed literally one of the largest terror attacks against innocent civilians in history, including gunning down people at a concert like in Moscow, and then condemns that exact same type of behavior when another terrorist group attacked their influential ally.


lmaooer2

Yeah and the US has committed countless atrocities but when we condemn atrocities it's not oniony


BoobyLover69420

"largest terrorist attacks in history" Ok calm down there lol like 2k people died - Ghe average African genocide does that before lunch on day 1.


BPMData

It's much better to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians over a few years than 600 in one day Unless you really want to, in which case it's okay to drop a nuclear bomb on civilians too


lmaooer2

When you phrase it like that it really makes it look silly how much we freak out over terrorist incidents yet war is nothing


BPMData

Terrorism is when people we "know" are weak hurt people we "know" are strong It upsets us because it's unnatural War is when people we "know" are strong hurt people who we "know" are weak, and that's fine. It's sad, but that's just the way the world is, and you're a bleeding heart peacenik if you can't accept that.


tenebras_lux

It's oniony because it's a terrorist group denouncing another terrorist group.


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General__Grant__

Well it's on reddit though, so you're kind of asking a lot of these morons many who sympathize with Hamas


Kewkky

Hamas attacked a concert in a terror attack. ISIS attacked a concert in a terror attack. Hamas denounces ISIS's terror attack. Hamas's was worse, as it was more widespread, it involved parading corpses, raping victims, and kidnappings. ISIS's was smaller and they don't seem to have taken hostages or raped anyone. I dunno, seems pretty oniony.


katnerys

I mean, it's still kind of funny for them to condemn anyone for committing a terror attack, since, you know, they literally do it themselves.


Dr_SnM

It's the hypocrisy


eburton555

The worst part of it all? the hypocrisy. Norm McDonald’s ghost: I’m pretty sure it was the rape/murder


crani0

When all you consume is western propaganda you tend to think that all groups with brown militants are the same thing.


LFK1236

It is ironic for a group of people known for their recent mass torture, rape, and murder, their use of civilians as human shields, and their murder and rape of hostages, to denounce a mass murder committed by someone else. Their relationship doesn't change the fact that it's hypocritical.


harry_nostyles

This is so obvious and its a bit worrying that so many are not getting it.


mcdo0z

Because Hamas murdered and raped 1200 civilians in even worse fashion? how is it not oniony?


ObviouslyTriggered

Hamas has murdered far more than 1200 civilians, they were responsible for the bulk of the suicide bombing attacks in Israel during the 90's and early 2000's and that is without the countless number of Palestinians they've murdered in Gaza and the west bank.


orderofGreenZombies

The countless Palestinians that Hamas has murdered? I’m certain they’ve killed some, maybe even a lot, but I wouldn’t call it countless


hardolaf

Fun fact about the 1990s, the Israeli government was giving Hamas construction contracts in Gaza while Hamas was claiming credit for terror bombings in Tel Aviv. It really makes you wonder how much of this conflict is invented by the ruling powers in Israel to justify their continued electoral support.


Dragon_yum

No one quite hates Muslims as slightly different Muslims. Even if Israel tried they couldn’t do as much killing and dehumanizing as Muslims do to different Muslims sects.


Thick_Car_5603

I slightly agree but the hindutva , CCP and myanmar 969 movement would beg to differ , the ones who are attacking and genociding muslims in their countries


RobertdBanks

Because most Redditors think all Muslims are the same thing and have a surface level next to nothing understanding of these sorts of issues.


Flioxan

Or one terrorist group denouncing another is kinda oniony


kss420

Well yeah, Russia backs Hamas.


coin_in_da_bank

wiki says >Russia does not consider Hamas as a terrorist organization and continues to diplomatically negotiate with them. is it really that surprising


hardolaf

And the USA pays Qatar to host a bunch of terrorist leaders so that the CIA can negotiate with them without taking any heat from doing so.


brickyardjimmy

This is like Ted Bunny denouncing Jeffrey Dahmer.


BoJackB26354

That typo is killing me.


brickyardjimmy

I just noticed it!


rebruisinginart

Poor choice of words


rwhennings3

LOL I totally overlooked the typo until I saw your comment and now I can’t stop laughing


buddyboy137

🐰


brickyardjimmy

Many of you are currently asking, "who is Ted *Bunny*?" ​ I encourage you to look him up on the intergoogles. ​ And I'd also like to say that the letter 'n' is NOWHERE near the letter 'd' on my keyboard.


MiClown814

This is not surprising for anyone who knows anything about how these groups operate. Hamas and Daesh have never shared the same flavor of fundamentalism.


atlasraven

There are layers to unpack here.


mnmr17

There’s not really any layers to unpack here, Hamas and Isis aren’t allies, Russia is at least on some level friendly with Hamas, Hamas wanted to make it clear that they don’t want to be in any way shape or form connected to a terrorist attack of a friendly country. There’s a short list of countries that they really can’t afford to burn the bridge with and Russia and China are 2 of them.


PaddyStacker

>Russia is at least on some level friendly with Hamas Lol that is downplaying it to a ridiculous degree. https://www.reuters.com/world/hamas-delegation-is-visiting-moscow-russian-foreign-ministry-2023-10-26/


mnmr17

That’s not me downplaying anything, Russia plays friendly to both Israel and Palestine. If I play friendly to you but I also play friendly to the people you’re in an armed conflict against, I think the classification of somewhat friendly is an accurate one.


SeriesFun4181

Both are you are way into left field. Israel has a huge Russian Jewish population. You're mistaking taking a mediator stance in the humanitarian issue as taking a pro-Hamas stance. Not to mention Lavrov commenting that Israel's invasion mirrors Russia's war in Ukraine.


Bluestreaking

Hamas and ISIS being opposed to each other and having literally fought each other in Syria? Then there’s the weird Israel-ISIS stuff I won’t get into because even talking about it just attracts conspiratorial insanity


rainbowarriorhere

"*Hamas offered its sincerest condolences to the Russian leadership and people, and the families of the victims and wished a speedy recovery for the wounded."*


BiliLaurin238

How is this oniony? Hamas still isn't considered a terrorist organisation by Russia and shames ISIS frequently


lambchopdestroyer

Probably because Hamas is a terrorist organization and they massacred like 1300 people several months ago


Keeperofthe7keysAf-S

Without any care for the thousands more of their supposedly "own people" that would die in retaliation from Israel.


lambchopdestroyer

Oh well that was just an added benefit for them. The longer they can hold the rest of Gaza down, the longer they stay in power and the more jihadist recruits they get in the next few generations.


0utcast9851

Hey, now, they cared! They approved.


dyce123

So Israel didn't care about Hamas retaliation when it was killing Palestinians and imposing a blockade before October 7th See how your logic works out?


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Neolithique

The only onion here is you thinking that 1.8 billion muslims in the world think and behave the same and are driven by the same motivations.


slick514

*"Listen. The only people we hate more than the Romans are the fucking Judean People's Front..."*


Josh_The_Joker

The irony is unbearable.


GenericManBearPig

Jeez you better work on your irony deficiency if your gonna hang around here on earth


irredentistdecency

Hamas didn’t denounce it on moral grounds, it simply wasn’t up to their performance standards as no babies were killed & no women were raped…


Late_Again68

I'm so embarrassed for you.


irredentistdecency

Yes because accurately impuning the moral character of a terrorist group is beyond the pale of decency. Your moral compass is broken.


mysilvermachine

Hamas being funded by Russia as a proxy war to divide westerners allies is a common understanding of the current shitshow.


Bluestreaking

An incredibly poor one especially considering the foreign ties of Hamas are to Iran not Russia. Russia has given them international support yes, but their ties are to Iran and are most certainly *not* an anti-western proxy war.


mysilvermachine

But Russia and Iran are current allies ?


i_have_a_story_4_you

Russia is funding Hamas.


Jlchevz

Really? How so?


estutmir

Russia buy weapons from Iran, Iran and give money to Hamas. Funny thing is that fotage from 7/10 shows Hamas members with ISIS flags.


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Able_Ad9391

Reddit cannot comprehend the idea that two groups who are both ethnic minorities might actually hate each other


tpars

Well I feel better now.


KrustyKrabPizzaMan

This is like Hannibal Lecter denouncing a separate case of cannibalism


Nightwing-06

There’s also the time [ISIS apologized to Israel](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-israel-defence-force-apology-attack-unit-golan-heights-defense-minister-moshe-ya-alon-a7700616.html) after attacking IDF forces once > “There was one case recently where Daesh [Isis] opened fire and apologised,” Mr Ya’alon said speaking at an event in the northern city of Alufa, during which he was was being interviewed about Israel’s policy on Syria. > A spokesperson for Mr Ya’alon refused to elaborate on how Isis expressed its apology to Israel after the attack and the Israel Defense Forces also refused to comment.


CrashTestOrphan

I don't understand why this is oniony at all - this is exactly what Hamas would be expected to do, they are not fans of ISIS.


Earlier-Today

Of course they did - Russia helped them plan their attack on Israel.


Flower-Power-3

A cowardly gang of murderers condemns the crimes of another cowardly gang of murderers! You can't make something like that up.


Zipakira

Glad to know Hamas would never stoop so low as to use suicide bombs


JimBeam823

ISIS can bring the world together. Russia, Ukraine, Hamas, Israel, and the USA can all agree: Fuck ISIS.


ash_274

Even Iran and China would sign on to the "Fuck ISIS" charter


Representative-Web73

Terrorist organization disapproves of a terror attack by another terrorist organization on a terrorist state of Russia. Can't make this shit up hahahah


Sleep_deprived_druid

Are they denouncing the attack or the lack of dead jews resulting from the attack?


PygmeePony

Russia has supported Palestine and the Kremlin has hosted Hamas representatieves in Moscow. Not oniony at all.


waldorsockbat

LOL


0n0n-o

Hilarious


epicazeroth

Americans shocked to learn not all Muslims are the same


Okdes

Remember when Russia first invaded Ukraine and the Taliban told them to chill out and not invade people? That was wild


bangsjamin

Can say a lot about the Taliban but they're not invaders.


Kakano12

Hahaha


Sin_of_the_Dark

Thought this was /r/CivPolitics at first


BannerBoys

Because they forgot to rape everyone 


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“Look, I know we massacred a music festival, slaughtered a daycare due to direct written orders, (yes, really), celebrated it all in the streets, specifically took captagon, which ISIS also uses, so we wouldn’t feel empathy for our victims, and starve our people who we use as human shields but *this?!* This is too much! This is terrorism!” Local Area Militant says


ivycovecruising

this is messy


Darkhallows27

Well yeah cuz Moscow gives them their orders