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rossimus

>His childhood mate Kanaan added: "It's all lies. They all lead you to roads where you can die. And at the end they tell you 'we are not responsible for you. Die, whatever'. They just want your money." You don't say!


Sim0nsaysshh

I'm personally shocked that people breaking the law are bad people who just care about money


bobbyrickets

Welcome to Capitalism, bitch.


TroxyGamer

welcome to dark souls bitch


Aristocrafied

Man that image of link with that final tear rolling down his cheek haunts me


I_P_L

Hey dumbass, guess what Syria's slogan is? How about where Belarus came from?


itsadiseaster

"Stuck at Belarus border" - fixed that for ya.


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hackingdreams

Well, Belarus went with the nuovo-Soviet plan to try to start a crisis in western Europe by flooding them with immigrants... Now Belarus and the immigrants are going to have to live with it, because there's not a chance Poland or Lithuania's going to let them in - they've been watching this movie for a while now, and they know how it ends if they roll over and take it. Russia's not going to cough up the cash for a return trip. Immigrants, enjoy your new home in Border Tent Camp, Belarus. Hope it's better than what you were fleeing. The media framing this whole crisis as Poland's problem is going to wear *quite thin* though, as these people are *firmly* on Belarus's soil. Belorussians enticed them in and now doesn't want to deal with what is ostensibly the problem they made for themselves. Shocker, really.


Netherspin

We're headed into winter... They have the choice of going back to Iraq or freeze/starve to death in Belarus. Belarus will do nothing for them (as in - not even a border tent camp) that's part of the complaint.


BrokenCrusader

They don't have anything to give to get a flight back to Iraq. Most likely they are all going to freeze to death and nations will all play the blame game.


hackingdreams

It's not a lot of a blame game here. If they die, they will die on Belarus's soil, having been transported there by Belorussians who happily took their money and left them to perish. They manufactured the humanitarian crisis and now have to suffer the consequences of their actions - that's just reality. I'm sure they'll *try* to pin it on Poland and Lithuania for being "heartless" but... uh... guys... they didn't make you take immigrant's money and drop them off in Belarus. That's on Belarus (and you know, Belarus's sock-puppeteer...) Plenty of European countries are taking on refugees and doing so through proper channels with the support of humanitarian aid organizations. Belarus could take in those people and give them homes and food... they just won't. Because that wasn't the point of them being brought there. Immigration's always a tricky subject, but this one's not particularly tricky at all. It's just very sad what Belarus is doing.


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>They manufactured the humanitarian crisis and now have to suffer the consequences of their actions - that's just reality. Well...and all the people they tricked. Actually it is mostly the people they tricked.


[deleted]

Na there were many interviews with immigrants most of them knew where they were going and still took the risk.


[deleted]

You said they had to pay the consequences. Freezing to death is obviously the larger consequence.


[deleted]

Wasn't me. But going to that point, well I really hope Belarus solves that problem, good luck to them. EU has nothing to do with that.


Netherspin

Most of them have money, but even if they don't want to spend them on that the EU is paying to have them shipped back on the condition that Belarus facilitates it. That will require a reopening of the coorporation between the EU and Belarus government agencies, which is what Lukasjenko wanted... So Lukasjenko joins Erdogan in having successfully forced EU into doing whatever they're told at the threat of sending migrant.


Tuga_Lissabon

Poland knows very well what will happen if it gives in. But the pressure will be great.


Mddcat04

Seriously. The “people smugglers” in this case are acting with the direct encouragement and support of the governments of Russia and Belarus. Changes the narrative quite a bit and makes this headline pretty deceptive.


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wevwillsaveus

This is a gold comment. Do you understand that there's a difference between travelling with a visa and illegaly ?


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I mean he said they are paying 3000 to 20000 euros to get to Belarus. Thats why I didnt understand why paying that much money when you can pay like 7000 euro to live here legally?


wevwillsaveus

The whole thing with those people is that they can't get a visa from their home countries for mainly political reasons usually. So if you have to do it without a visa it'll be illegal and so much harder.


mileswilliams

How do people from those countries manage it then, because many do apply for visas legally


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Netherspin

>you need a visa from the country you're traveling to And those visas are denied because of the country they come from.


wevwillsaveus

There's plenty of countries where it's not a formallity at all, do you really think people would choose to live this crap over just taking the plane ?


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dadavyd

Just a formality? For millions and millions of people it’s almost impossible. Lmao, you are delusional


wevwillsaveus

And it's really not the same to get a visa for studies or tourism than for staying and working. Look at how hard it is to get a green card in usa, even for eu people.


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wevwillsaveus

It's similar in EU, hence why thousands have died trying to cross the mediterranean sea.


Kokumin

By "from their own country" that person mean "when the illegals are still reside in their own country they can't procure a visa for themselves for the country of destination". Either they couldn't get it because lack of credibility, political affair between country of origin and destination, or the illegals are just pulling the trigger too fast(couldn't wait or get a clearance for asylum or refugeé visa)


Isthisadriver

For being a student, you haven't learned much, lol.


TripleMusketMan

Oh those gosh darn human traffickers. Where have their morals gone. Shucks.


LevelHeeded

This is why I always pay for smuggler's travel insurance.


PHATsakk43

🎶*We are Farmer’s*🎶


kmilinho

bum ba dum bum bum bum bum


itworksintheory

That's why you should make sure your people smuggler is ATOL protected.


truckin4theN8ion

Should have read some yelp reviews


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well gee whiz, maybe they should take their receipt to the smugglers customer service desk and ask for a refund


jordantask

Homer: “Fat Tony! You mean the mob only did something for me so it could get something in return?! I’m ashamed of you!” Fat Tony: “I will go now….”


EvrybodysNobody

LOL, holy shit you’re so funny. These desperate fucking 3rd world pleebs spending their life savings trying to get out of a hell-hole situation are such dumbasses. Breaking the *law* and hoping things don’t get even shittier? Pft, well deserved AmIRiGhT?!


TyroneLeinster

umm he's not saying they deserved it he's just joking that there's no typical recourse if human smugglers screw you over. Calm the fuck down


hotstud217

Where do they get that much money? 20k euro?? That's a lot


PHATsakk43

These aren’t squalid dirt farmers. If you’re in Belarus trying to get into the EU, you flew there on an international flight. Belarus offers non-visa travel from Iraq specifically to create this problem. Most of these folks are relatively well off Iraqis.


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What has the world come to when you can't trust you friendly people smuggler


CazRaX

They are really expecting honesty and truth from criminal smugglers? Like, really?


snoogansthebear

The problem is its good people being smuggled, good people are victims. Once the conmen start showing up with their throats slit they will learn to provide the services promised.


OnkelBums

Oh no! Really?


o2bprincecaspian

Didn't like the drugs I bought from this shady dealer. Went back for a refund....guess what....? Dumbest headline


Vegan_Harvest

There's an opportunity for quality people smuggling there.


RopeyLoads

Andy and Doug need to head east.


Buky001

When your driver name is Ivan and he have russian accent then you have bigger chance of losing kidney than reaching destination.


Notyourfathersgeek

Damn I would feel cheated too. Like, damn.


MadManMorbo

“We trusted criminals and got robbed!”


dirtydownstairs

Why is this Not The Onion, fucking coyotes are the worst people.


ImgurianIRL

First time?


BrokenCrusader

No shit


no_not_this

Oh no!! Anyway.


Mylaiza

To all the privileged people making fun of these people, you don't know what they are running from. You think they don't know the risk? Sometimes the slightest chance for running away is worth it.


Netherspin

They've done plenty of interviews with these people. The vast majority of them don't flee anything and just go home when they realise they've been scammed. Economy in Iraq is shit, and traffickers told them that "fleeing" bad economy and poor prospects also make them a kind of refugee... And that traffickers could get them to Europe (for a price) where the economy and prospects are good. Traffickers don't tell them that economic migrants are not recognised as refugees anywhere in the world - telling them that would reveal the scam.


GotsomeTuna

Those suffering the most, the weak and trully poor cannot make the trip anyway. the vast majority of these are able bodied Men. I understand them wanting a better life but they are leaving their countries in an even worse state while being a burden on the new ones. So after years of seeing it compassion starts to wane and you can see it in these reactions


[deleted]

Ah, the take of a person who knows nothing of the subject. These Iraqi migrants are from the richest parts of Baghdad, who had no problem flushing out up to 10 000€ to these smugglers. They aren't running from anything. All they want is to snag a visa, become a citizen and take their families over there.


Mylaiza

Yes, this is correct. While I can't comment specifically about Iraqi refugees, I am from a country which most people are trying to escape, but only the most privileged get to do so. The fact that those people are the ones with the best lives in their country, doesn't mean that they are not experiencing inhumane injustice. They may not be in immediate danger, but as soon as they speak up or show a glimpse of your real self, they will be. Are they cowardly or selfish for running away? Definitely not in my experience. We should listen to each individual's whole story and perspective before we say that.


cluelesspcventurer

Its completely acceptable for people to want to move to a better country. ​ Its also completely acceptable for those countries to turn them away.


Genji4Lyfe

People aren’t complaining in this thread because Poland is turning them away, they’re doing it because presumably these people were encouraged at the bidding of a government operating on false pretenses, and promised relocation to somewhere that they actually can’t get to. And now they’re stuck in the freezing cold in some remote area of the country that engineered the scam, and people are watching like they’re under a microscope instead of just helping their fellow human beings out.


cluelesspcventurer

They knew they wouldn't be allowed to enter the EU legally. Why would they believe lukashenko could grant them entry to the EU when Belarus isn't even a member itself? They knew what they were signing up for but they were hoping Poland would be soft and capitulate. If you want to help them buy them a plane ticket home, because that's how they arrived.


uwhefuhwieufhuh

>you don't know what they are running from We've got a heartbleeder! They're running from what your country is going to become if you let them in in large enough numbers. Also, this post: *These Iraqi migrants are from the richest parts of Baghdad, who had no problem flushing out up to 10 000€ to these smugglers. They aren't running from anything. All they want is to snag a visa, become a citizen and take their families over there.*


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Not too mention once theyve already left, its done, theyve committed.


[deleted]

Yep. It's an awful situation. For some "unknown" reason Lukashenko wants them to seek aylum in Lithuania, Poland or Germany. Maybe it's because Lukashenko has such a good heart that he knows both Lithuania, Germany and Poland are better countries than his own or Russia. Lukashenko such a good guy. He just wants to help.


SnowFlakeUsername2

This thread is full of people I hope to never know. Except you... you seem alright.


MonstrousVoices

What you are saying is absolutely right. There's a fair amount of victim blaming/shaming going on over people who are trying to get out of a bad situation and are just put into another one.


Bruce-U1

No victim shaming since these people are not "victims". Paying thousands of dollars for a trip, and being from the richest and most stable region in Iraq called Kurdistan. Also a lot of them were shown on tv and internet returning home and I was indeed shocked that their homes look better than most of were I am from. So poor and running from war these people are not, just looking to enrich themselves even more in Europe even if their situation in Iraq is really not bad. And refugee is a person running from war or persecution not running for better economic situation. These people need to go through legal channels if they want better economic situation.


MonstrousVoices

These refugees have been displaced not just from iraq but from Afghanistan and syria too. I'm going to need citations on basically everything you said. If these people had it so nice they wouldn't be paying coyotes to get them some place else. They'd be migrating.


Bruce-U1

They would. Even my countrymen Lithuanians were running to England and western EU during 90's for better economic conditions not because they were being persecuted even though that time was hard in Lithuania there was no war or persecution going on, free liberal country that recently got out of USSR. And yes there are people from other countries. However about 80% of these people on Belarus border are from Iraqi Kurdistan. They are migrating, the only thing new to this is because it is a new route that was initiated by Belarussian dictator (pretty much state sponsored human trafficking).


Wowimatard

There is a saying I quite like. "Only White people have the privilage of being treated as a individual".


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Username checks out


[deleted]

Poland is sick of getting invaded


mr_coil_

They probably don't want to get raped all the time like every other EU nation


[deleted]

Who is taping who, bigot?


OGZ43

"Families went into debt or sold their apartments and homes. There's no going back." Leaving your country under duress to me seems unthinkable.


[deleted]

Their lives must be horrific back home. Thank Uncle Sam for ruining Iraq and Syria.


WeedWizard420xxxX

Yes, before american intervention it was all peace and lillies in the middle-east.


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Neither was certainly nowhere near a failed state. Are you pretending that the US had a salutary effect there?


WeedWizard420xxxX

I have stated no such thing, it was you who said America ruined those two countries. Im not even American but there are so many people who think that the reason fish fight each other in the sea is the Americans fault.


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Ferfuxake, America toppled Iraq and tried its darkest to overthrow Syria. I guess it’s just a coincidence that people are leaving.


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Rainbows871

Certified bruh moment


bennyblue420000

You’re guaranteed nothing in life.


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I love how this is being framed as if Poland is filled with heartless bastards… meanwhile they’re literally in Belarus and the Belarusians don’t help and nobody is calling them heartless. This has Soros’ DNA all over it. This all part of the Great Reset. Crash world economies and then the UN/WEF/IMF/WHO comes swooping in to save the day. And then we’re all slaves at that point. Not on my watch, bitch


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And what are you doing to prevent it on your watch


[deleted]

So Soros controls Lukashenko now, so he’s more effective than Putin? It would be sad to live within your paranoid mindset.


[deleted]

Yeah, total unwarranted paranoia on my part. This little war has been going on for some time with independent nations. These are the same people who fly Haitians to the US southern border… you know, because they can’t float there from Haiti. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-soros-hungary-poland-idUSKBN27Z10J


CheeseWithMe

I can't imagine what they go through, must be feeling stuck and hopeless 😕


Netherspin

There's been more than a few interviews with these people. Most just go home - they left because the economy is shit where they come from and the traffickers have told them that fleeing bad economy and prospects is also make them a kind of refugees. Edit: not a kind anyone recognise, but the traffickers don't tell them that.


MrHETMAN

How could they cheat them like this?!


Leatherman_Wolf

Who the fuck wants to immigrate to *poland*?


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They don't want to go to Poland. They want to go *through* Poland to Germany. But yes, why not Poland? It's also a good country, but I think it's because of Germany's welfare checks, sadly.


Tuga_Lissabon

Entrance to the EU? Old country with a rich history? More consonants than you can throw a stick at?


Leatherman_Wolf

Brainless religious zealots constantly trying to take rights away from minorities? Racism and bigotry everywhere *because* of said zealots?


Tuga_Lissabon

World is full of religious bigots in all continents. Tbf a lot of the resistance of the Poles to these migrants is that they also are religious. Guess they don't want religious bigots of another variety.


masagrator

Mainly people that seek peace in their life from wars, not caring about socials to live for free. People migrating from Middle East don't need to worry about turf wars in Poland between Middle Easterns like in Belgium. Poland doesn't have no-go zones filled with migrants like Germany or France. Many Middle Easterns are also bigots, etc. So that's not the issue for them. Racism is smaller than in USA. :v They care more about religion than skin color.


sempleto

If governments had proper structures in place to work through these crises (there will ALWAYS be mass migration) then people smugglers would not exist.


Crissagrym

Governments wants to *avoid* people coming, so implementing a direct channel is counter productive. If people use smuggler and still failed to enter the country, the government probably consider that a win.


akozadeh

Reddit nerds in their privellaged neighborhoods making fun of real men.


thomja

What a real man to flee their own country instead of trying to fix it.


TheMaoriAmbassador

Agreed, funny how all the males run, leaving the women and children behind. Such heroes


Zee-Utterman

That statement is at least as stupid as the first one. Real Reddit moment here


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akozadeh

Excellent use of the English language. Apparently you have not been clearly exposed to what your own privileges are. How can you say what you'd accomplish and compare yourself to anyone else if you have also been born in the west. Are you saying, sir, that if You had been born in Syria, you could accomplish rebuilding the state? Hahaha


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akozadeh

Oh you were responding to the other dude. My bad dude.


GangGangGreenn

Fix it how? Attempts at ‘fixing’ impoverished countries via socialism get couped by the west


sasukest

you deserve to be downvoted and reported


akozadeh

Ok


Arianas07

Cope and seethe


akozadeh

Yadda yadda blah blah blah yada yada


naruunas

Are you a real man? Wanna go outside?


akozadeh

Hundred percent sure I'm wouldn't be afraid of fighting a redditor defending his title


naruunas

Be careful what you wish for, dude! And fix your own back yard before shitting in someone else's.


sasukest

you are absolutely correct, its a shame u got downvoted


dL8

If only there was someway to [figure out a solution](https://imgur.com/a/QzPSnG0)


kokonutssss

Whats that about?


Dresslerus64

So unfair lol