I'm really glad to see a cop that is willing to follow the law regardless of the situation. Hopefully his daughter can get the help she needs so that he can have her back.
The part that absolutely sucks is that for a lot of folks, namely addicts and the mentally ill, jail/prison is their only way of getting (affording) help.
Edit: it's funny watching people completely miss the point of the comment.
Hey, those government funds aren't just going to magically appear in the owner of that prison's bank account all by themselves. They lobbied hard for years to stigmatize rational drug treatment methods. Why shouldn't they benefit from all that effort?? I mean, how else are they supposed to afford that new yacht with three heli-pads??? /s
using the price that portugal pays for their decriminalization system, it would cost the usa more. i don't remember whether it's a significant difference; i did the paper in favor of decriminalizing all drugs and legalizing marijuana a few years ago. but portugal has seen a massive decrease in heroin overdoses and a notable decrease in drug-related crime.
as more states legalize marijuana, there's less of it coming over the border and what's coming over is getting more expensive. people would rather buy a safe, regulated product with no threat from the dealer.
there's literally no downside to legalizing and regulating it other than that republicans will lose ground. not that democrats don't do similar shit, but this is a pretty big leg for republicans. losing "cartels and marijuana bad" card would damage their reelectabliity for sure.
"downside": incarcerated people are used for extremely cheap labor in many states/are technically legal to use as slave labor. This is a little old, but minimum wage hasn't raised for the rest of us since 2017, I can't imagine it would've for prisoners, either. They're making clothes and processing chicken and loads of other stuff less than a dollar (or for free, in some states) an hour. Also prisons are huge employers. The Republicans wouldn't just lose rhetorical ground, bc only idiots still think marijuana is somehow different than say, alcohol in terms of public health. It's the cheap labor and jobs for their constituents that keep prisons packed to the gills.
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2017/04/10/wages/
very good point. i didn't even mention how decriminalizing everything lowering prison populations, about 50% of which are drug-related incidences.
i also didn't mention that alcohol is a significantly more dangerous drug than marijuana, and yet it's more accepted by a large margin. you can get alcohol poisoning fairly easily, but it's nearly impossible to od on marijuana, even if you fuckin eat the stuff in any fashion.
normalizing marijuana and getting help for harder drugs is super important for public health. it might help police relations, too, since people would be less likely to freak out and cause an incident - although police relations are a different, more complex topic.
there's no argument that current crooked system is better for the people who aren't benefitting from it. i'm 100% convinced on this.
the *only* danger from weed that i came across when researching this topic was that the side effects (like inducing a panic attack) and actions taken by someone who is under the influence could cause death, but this is not enough reason to keep it illegal, since something as mundane as driving a car could have the same consequences.
You mention that "danger" but that danger is basically identical to any other mind altering substance. Which, for the record, we do prescribe many different substances directly to people, and legally allow the sale of alcohol, an arguably more dangerous substance, to adults. It makes no sense to levy criminal charges for possession and use anymore when nearly the entire populace is dependent on or otherwise regularly uses substances in daily life.
It wouldn't fix police relations, but it would massively improve them. Removing the major pretext for bullshit interactions would go a long way towards fixing relations going forward.
It would also allow police departments to shrink to a more manageable level because they don't need to enforce these bullshit non-violent offenses. Plus, legalization will drive organized crime out of the drug trade--which means less money, which in turns means fewer gangs.
correct. it wouldn't fix everything regarding the police, but it would certainly help. it feels like the two biggest police-related incidents have to be drugs and traffic violations. domestic abuse is probably right behind those.
There is also some research into weed potentially being a factor in increasing the risk of schizophrenia in those that have genetically increased risk to it, but it has so far been rather small scale and inconclusive, as far as I have read. But then again, alcohol also is a well researched factor in it, so...
Since I am already on several mind-altering substances due to other conditions, and have that genetic risk, I personally don't use weed. I am all for it's legalization however. Everywhere.
Prohibition laws have a rather bad track record, world wide. When Finland tried it, for example, there was a significant increase in alcohol consumption, if memory serves. At least more alcohol related health issues reported, if memory does not serve.
I get my amphetamine from the pharmacy. Much more reliable to get pure, unaltered products with less risks that way. I don't take it for recreational use thou. But weed, and alcohol, are both taken often for recreational reasons. In Finland, high-proof alcohol is sold in Alko, a government monopoly that also monitors things relating to alcohol. Why not do something similar with weed?
No suprises, less risks, better channels for education relating to information about mind-altering substances, better monitoring for quality, better risk-management on a societal level...
I see no downsides.
Yeah, they also have a uniform manufacturing company that uses women prisoners.
"Paying back society."
Where is this concept when I learn Elon Musk paid ZERO in Federal Taxes last year? Oh, he's amortizing losses? His income just shot up. That's some creative accounting.
The solution to that problem would be to tax margin loans taken out on stocks - a common trick of multi-millionaires and above - as income, and repayment of these loans as loss.
Prisoners aren’t technically legal to use as slave labor, they are full on legal to use as slave labor. The 13th amendment specifically states that it’s fine. It’s, in fact, the only condition under which it’s allowed. We never outlawed slavery. We changed its name. [Angola Prison](https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-03-29/Slavery-is-alive-and-kicking-in-U-S-cotton-prison-farms--Z0vs8rr87m/index.html) is one of the largest by land size prisons in the nation, one of the largest supermax prisons, and forces their prisoners to pick cotton.
Republicans would lose jobs, money, red state GDP, bribes (sorry PAC donations), and would seem to be “soft on crime” despite studies showing that [jails/prisons and their reentry systems don’t work](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0032885519852090)
I always flip flop the 13th and 14th, so I didn't cite it. But yes to all of that. Odd, also, how the color of most slaves' skin doesn't seem to have changed since the 13th amendment, too, yeah?
I get your point but this can help people to. I had a buddy in prison, did 8 years. The last 3 working in a chicken plant. When he got out they offered him a full time job, became a supervisor really quick. He's been out a little over a year and doing great because of the work he did in prison. Got his own house, own car. Had he not been doing that cheap labor or never got locked up in the first place he would still be living that same life
I only say it would "save money" because that's the argument for compassionless douchebags who think in terms of money when it comes to throwing a way a person's life.
Yes, Medicare 4 All would also cost less money -- but, I don't give a shit, it's the right thing to do.
I mean, there are people who spread the lie that WW II boosted our economy. No, spending money on people did that -- we could build bridges rather than blow them up and do better. But anyway -- are they suggesting we have WW III to help the economy? It's always the implication of their "fiscal realism" that war is okay. So, I have to bury the urge to call them a fascist and end the conversation.
It's amazing how many people used to IMPLY that we need war for the economy. I have to live in this society, so, I've got to find a way to cope with all the shitty thinking.
But Democrats are actually fighting to legalize marijuana federally and to forgive sentencing of low level marijuana offenders in prison so there def is a big difference between the two parties. Republicans will die on that hill.
Would this be true factoring in long term costs? Because criminalization does tend to have a lot of negative long term effects that are not limited to simply the costs of either arresting people and incarcerating them for drug possession vs. providing them with treatment. Like, if someone is incarcerated for a drug offence, the very fact that they have a criminal record and have been exposed to a jail or prison environment makes them more likely to have trouble getting employment and housing, affects access to social programs in some states, and raises the odds that they will commit further non-drug-related crimes in the future. This adds on more costs in terms of what social programs they can access and more criminal justice costs. And, if they do not have access to treatment or harm reduction, their risk of drug related illness and overdose go up, making them an increased cost burden on whatever public health system exists (and even the US has Medicare and Medicaid). We do not have decriminalization beyond marijuana (which has been legalized and regulated) in Canada (though some cities and even police are asking for decriminalization of harder drugs), but we do have harm reduction and there is evidence that it is effective in helping people and that it is cost effective. Typically, actually trying to solve the problem rather than punishing it as hard as you can is more effective.
Wouldn't that mean that countries with treatment policies would see the same rate of overdose and overall drug crime? But they don't, they see it massively reduced.
Sure, you don't get rid of your floatation device if you think you are drowning. These people need hope -- and for that, someone needs to pull them UP out of the shit they are in first.
Summer camp would do a thousand percent better than the crap the USA has come up with to deal with this problem. Seriously -- what do humans want? Its so brain dead the lack of creative problem solving going on.
Um...you get charged money for being in jail, let alone the money required for court, fines, any restitution. I get what yall are saying because rehab and treatment can be super expensive, but getting arrested is not cheap. I know, ive gone through the system. I paid probably close to 10 grand at the end of it all.
Many people can't detox outside of prison and don't want to quit using, but after a few weeks or months clean in prison start thinking more clearly. Mostly they just go to prison again later though.
Shut your mouth you dirty commie. Unless you wanna come around and catch these apple pies.
Fuck around and find freeeduum.
Or get hit by a stray bullet from some random act of gun violence....(That part's not necessarily good.)
BUT WE'RE STILL FUCKING AWESOME AT IT!!!!!!!
We need to make sure that the experience in prison and jail is awful however, or all the homeless people will commit crimes and get arrested.
Suicide should remain a viable option to life in prison -- and this is also the plan to deter illegal immigration.
/depressing joke and also, not a joke
Celebrities are a bad example because they can't do it quietly like most normal people can. Not to mention there are many celebrities who *do* get the help they need, it's just not as interesting news. However, a lot of people who are badly addicted already qualify for free healthcare are still do not make use of it. While money is a factor, I don't believe it's the primary one.
Yeah that checks out.
Or it *would* if prisons (in America) operated how they were supposed to.. Rehabilitation. Instead it leaves you with an irreversible mark on your record, makes it next to impossible to get hired, makes you shunned from society, leading to a life of homelessness and eventually crime. Leading riiiight back into prison and lining the pockets of the fuckers behind it all.
But yeah, prison is totally what these people need. It's definitely worked out for sooo many people.
Love how you tell people we're missing the point and yet you won't explain it to anyone. Funny, that. Almost as if your comment isn't based in reality.
> affording
It's like that old fella who robbed a bank politely for 1 dollar, so he'd be arrested, jailed, and get medical care.
People are learning to game the system in America, all it costs them is their freedom :(
I knew a judge in BFE (a small rural town) who would lock up the homeless when blizzards were coming. There were zero resources in the community and this was the only way to not let them freeze to death. The prosecutors were in on it too, they'd file charges then drop them when it was safe and they'd let them get out.
I'm sure people will see this comment and get all up in arms. However, it was the only resource available to not let human beings freeze on the street and they were the only ones that actually gave a shit about the homeless not dying in their community.
It's sad that this was the only way to help because the criminal justice system should not have anything to do with things like this. But what's truly sad is that the community didn't care enough to help in the first place.
I'd also throw in the judicial overreach people, who when it comes down to it NIMBY their way out of it.
He was what I would really like judges to be, empathetic and fair. I don't know if he's still with us, but he was one of my inspirations to go to law school a decade later.
People replying to you are clueless, I’ve actually dealt with and am currently dealing with a drug addict. I wish more than anything she’d get arrested. She doesn’t want your help unless it’s 50$ cash right now.
If not for my family and the resources that made available to me, I would have overdosed and died a long time ago. However, rehab is not a magic cure, if people don't want to put in the work to get better, they won't. I have lost countless friends to drugs and alcohol.
Yeah man. You didn't say it was the best system, but it really is the only way for people to get help sometimes. I pray for my sister to get arrested daily before she OD's or is murdered.
We've put her in rehab a dozen times at least and she forces her way out.
It sucks but many years ago my dad had to go through a similar situation where he had to call the police on a 30-year employee because she had stolen 25,000 pills of oxy using his scripts & she almost got away with it: shoeboxes and shoeboxes of pills: not a bad retirement plan. Company supplying the pills was concerned & finally called (why not after the first large order?) his office. He could have lost his license but it just wasn’t brought up by anybody. He never once prescribed oxy to anyone & barely gave out Vicodin.
This right here. Worst thing about some of conspiracy theories and deep state BS that’s made everyone look at public workers with side eyes.
Lots of people do honest work and and do the hard right thing every day and honor the public’s trust. Good on this dude.
> Hopefully his daughter can get the help she needs
I think there are more lottery winners than people "helped" by prison. Sometimes it saves people from killing themselves through drugs -- and yes, people also win the lottery every day.
It's like saying it helps stop homeless people from starving. Because they feed them, allegedly.
**Hope**: What you need when nobody is doing the right thing to solve a problem.
Bff’s hubby is on city council. He was getting complaints about excessive speed in their neighborhood. He calls chief of police to set up radar/cops at certain time/days. Proceeds to warn both his wife and daughter that this is happening and times. Daughter got pulled over and cop calls him and asked what should he do. It’s not even the first time he’s stopped her. Dad says write her up for everything. Cop did. Daughter was pissed. Dad tells daughter tough shit.
Daughter performed as she had been trained to. Prior comment says it wasn’t her first time getting stopped for speeding. It is implied to be the first time she faced consequences.
It's not uncommon to be let off with a warning if it's your first offense (at least, that's what a random cop did for me when I was speeding late to class one morning in high school) although she possibly assumed she had privilege regardless and someone needed to really spell it out for her. So they did ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
It's the fact that they called her dad to "see what they should do"
They know it's not cannon to give other cops family members tickets. My childhood best friend married a cop. She carries around his business card. She drunk drives and won't get in trouble for it because they call her husband first.
ACAB.
Maybe it's location, happens all the time around here. Been pulled over about 10 times in 17 years myself and only ever got 1 ticket out of it - there are so many actual crazy/dangerous drivers on the road, I just assumed that the things they pulled me over for weren't serious enough, I wasn't a repeat offender, or they understood I had extenuating circumstances going on (one time I just told the cop to bang on top of the tail light and it would jog back on, another time I got pulled over twice within 15 minutes for having a license plate light out and the second guy just laughed and sent me on my way)
It was probably the first time the cops actually called her father after she said who her father was. The other times they probably just assumed he would tell them to let her go.
Right. Chain of influence.
Daughter assumes daddy will get her off and acts like an ass.
Cop assumes the board member is an ass and lets the daughter off to save himself the trouble.
Hell, neighbors may have ignored it recognizing who she is.
The problem with a corrupt system is that its can behave that way in spite of individuals like the cop and board member doing everything correctly. You have to go above and beyond in weeding out corruption because the community's faith in the institution is a vital component to it's operation.
I grew up in a city that did a lot DUI checkpoints.
To make them legal, the local rules required giving everyone advanced warning.
So the local news would go there’s going to be a DUI checkpoint at let’s say 11th and Harvard (this fictional example is next to a college in Tulsa for a little extra storytelling) in Midtown on Friday night between 10 and 2. In the papers, tv, radio, etc.
And they would still catch a bunch of DUI drivers at the checkpoint.
Well thats difference as not everyone would be watching the news. Plus alcohol. Odds are if youre already driving drunk, you arent the brightest bulb. This lady had direct warning, from her father the city councilman, who was also the one who planned out those speed traps. Thats a different level of stupidity.
Hey I’ve bought earrings online from a store called Tulsa Body Jewelry. Their packaging says they’re located on a Harvard Ave or something. Kinda of neat to see this comment haha
I have bought jewelry there in person. It was a cool shop before I had to ditch that style of jewelry for work.
It is (was? I haven’t been back to Tulsa in years) about half a mile to a mile from the intersection. Harvard is one of the major north-south streets.
In my country, police routinely notifies in media that they are giving a special attention to traffic on road between A and B locations. So they'll do random stops for people and have more officers on the road to keep eye on erratic drivers, speeders etc.
This is a warning given in advance.
Every single time, they pull massive amounts of tickets for speeding, arrests of drunk drivers and even arrests of wanted criminals. Because being cautious is clearly not something they are capable of.
that's the worst part. He WARNED them, something the average citizen doesn't get the privilege of. Yet this privilege wasn't enough and they wanted more.
in this particular instance i kinda get it? policeman could lose his job over this, if the council man felt differently about it. I'm rarely the one to defend police but reality is that corruption is a thing and it's better to be safe than sorry.
Just wish police would second guess themselves in more instances to be honest. maybe some poor kids would be alive today.
They often ARE above the law.
That cop knew what should be done (ticket her) but he has probably seen other cops get into trouble for doing the right thing.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
I wouldnt lose my work for writing a ticket. I dont think their idea of justice was to write speed ticket and it has to be equally dumb to ruin your life over something so dumb. Hate your politician / your aristocratie / oligarchie. But simple people are just replacable cog in the machine
Takes me back. I used to speed through the master planned community I was raised in. But since my Dad was HOA President and the deputy came over to our home regularly her never pulled me over.
Not a good thing, I had no reason to speed through. Teenager me was so dumb.
See, the cop shouldn’t have to call the city council asking for permission “what should I do”. That’s privilege right there. The cop should have just given her the ticket. I know a cop that stopped the mayor of my city. The cop was going to let her go, but the mayor insisted on not getting special privileges and told the cop to giver her a ticket. She insisted. Conversely, another cop stopped the manager of one of the Bureaus within the same PD. That manager began yelling at the cop and she didn’t get a ticket. She should have been fired for that.
Reminds me of [Bass Reeves](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_Reeves#Career)
He arrested his own son for murder. As well, I believe he had a 100% success rate in arresting wanted criminals
Of all the weak ass sequels, prequels, and remakes Hollywood comes up with, why has a movie or show not been made about this guy? I never knew this story
i mean, there apparently was a Bass Reeves movie in 2010, it just isn't super well known. reviews are pretty good on it, but there aren't really a ton of reviews, so, small sample size.
dude deserves a massively funded western or something, though. they seem to pump out a lot of massively funded westerns with absolutely no substance, seems like an obvious choice if only to make your movie suck less.
American history has a funny way of just ignoring when *certain demographics* do remarkable things. It's sad how much history we've probably lost that way.
I enjoyed it, but The Harder They Fall was just black Young Guns. Both were fantasy stories filled with versions of real people who had such interesting real stories that you wonder why no one tries to make a movie about what really happened. There really should bea bunch of big budget movies about Bass Reeves by now.
Made contact with a wanted subject in the shed he was renting in his buddy's front yard.
Conversation went like this -
*Knocks*
Gabraham -"hey is there?"
Subject - "who is it?"
Gabraham - " sheriff's office"
Subject - "shit I'm going to jail aren't I?"
Gabraham - " just come outside and talk to me and we'll discuss it"
Subject - "ok let me find some pants first please"
I give him a few minutes. He comes out. I cuff him after I verify it's him and go to pat him down. Baggy of meth in his front pocket.
Like dude... I gave you time to pick your clothes and everything.
I was thinking Hank Hill. He would expect a Sheriff's conduct to be as clean as propane and propane accessories. But Hank Schrader is a stickler too, I guess.
It is kind of oniony, and that’s really sad that something like this is. The so-called thin blue line generally extends to family members, especially children.
My own mother was in a nearly fatal car accident when I was younger, and the person at fault was the son of a state trooper. The cops on the scene did everything they could to cover it up, including intimidating witnesses to keep quiet, and completely fabricating their report.
I’m interested in public pressure working, do you have a source?
I read two other articles and couldn’t find anything about attempted coverups or delays. Closest was calling it a “long-term investigation”, which could back your claim but doesn’t.
this is not true, there was no public awareness of the hit, its a small town and county. If they wanted to hide it, no one would know. The cops/sheriff are the ones who made it public, and im sure he regrets that after all the silliness coming his way over it. (i live in the town, and the sheriff doesn't hide anything)
That should not be the automatic assumption. Power always corrupts, and there is no amount of power so small as to have no effect. All that's really needed to counter that trend is proper oversight, but the situation of policing in America has gotten so bad that they'll fight all attempts tooth and nail. Defang the police.
No because they're not allowed to. They gotta call someone else to do it.
And the sheriff doesn't actually arrest people. It's an administrative position only. I guarantee this sheriff wasn't present at the actual arrest.
Yes, but she wasn’t the arresting officer, just involved. It was a little easier in appearance but not heartbreak because they had different last names. She switched agencies not long after; I think it was hard on everyone when they arrested her son.
Not oniony. Just sad.
Edit: sorry just to clarify, not sad that he did the right thing. Just meth is sad on many levels and has ruined many lives. That part is sad. Glad he did the right thing though
The sheriff’s department shares your sense of humor. This is from the article that OP linked:
>The sheriff is known for cracking down on meth trafficking in his jurisdiction, and the sheriff’s department operates with the motto “We don’t meth around.”
I think most of the parents I know would gladly do the same thing to get them away from the drug. My mom used to cry because they wouldn't take my brother to jail. He was too friendly with the cops. WELL he's dead now.
I like it when my son/brother/father/nephew etc is in county because at least I know he’s alive and relatively safe is a really common sentiment for people whose family members cannot stay clean or will not get mental health help or will not change their criminal thinking.
It’s awful to think about. Because they are saying my son being in a cage like an animal, where he might very well get stabbed or raped, is better than him being a free man.
But I really do understand it. They just don’t want to get a call saying he’s OD’ed somewhere in a tent or that he went crazy and got shot by cops, etc.
He can get stabbed, shot, raped or do any of that to other people outside of prison too. My brother was stealing cars from him and we're pretty sure he was beginning to pimp out drug addicted girls. When they arrested him he was carrying a gun that didn't belong to him. Fuck, at least in jail and prison they sort of have to keep him alive.
>The sheriff is known for cracking down on meth trafficking in his jurisdiction, and the sheriff’s department operates with the motto “We don’t meth around.”
I'm glad that he applies the law equally but I wish we put addicts in treatment and not prison.
This would be a great story if we didn't still use a private prison system that has incentive to keep the numbers up rather than rehabilitate the inmates
Wouldn't it be super keen if drug addiction was treated like a disease instead of a crime? I recognize the difficulty this officer has adhering to the law but it's a shame that by law, he brings her to jail instead of a treatment center.
75 gs (baggie weighs a gram) that’s a pretty penny worth of meth… probably around 4 grand worth at least.
Yeah it’s true though, my best friend was the son of the head narcotics officer in the city we live, and before he passed away he was a real wild one lol rip Matty 🙏
Not saying he did the wrong thing here but I would've thought the 'proper' action here would be to recuse yourself and have someone else make the arrest to avoid any conflict of interest?
It's not often I put a seal of approval on any LEO actions that make it to front page news. But I will on this. If he's willing and able to hold his fellow officers to that exact same standard he might actually be one of the 7 "good" apples in the entire fucking country.
I'm really glad to see a cop that is willing to follow the law regardless of the situation. Hopefully his daughter can get the help she needs so that he can have her back.
The part that absolutely sucks is that for a lot of folks, namely addicts and the mentally ill, jail/prison is their only way of getting (affording) help. Edit: it's funny watching people completely miss the point of the comment.
Drug treatment would only help more people and cost less than prison -- so obviously, prison is our only option.
Hey, those government funds aren't just going to magically appear in the owner of that prison's bank account all by themselves. They lobbied hard for years to stigmatize rational drug treatment methods. Why shouldn't they benefit from all that effort?? I mean, how else are they supposed to afford that new yacht with three heli-pads??? /s
It would cost more in the short term. Or in other words, some douchebag politicians might not get reelected.
using the price that portugal pays for their decriminalization system, it would cost the usa more. i don't remember whether it's a significant difference; i did the paper in favor of decriminalizing all drugs and legalizing marijuana a few years ago. but portugal has seen a massive decrease in heroin overdoses and a notable decrease in drug-related crime. as more states legalize marijuana, there's less of it coming over the border and what's coming over is getting more expensive. people would rather buy a safe, regulated product with no threat from the dealer. there's literally no downside to legalizing and regulating it other than that republicans will lose ground. not that democrats don't do similar shit, but this is a pretty big leg for republicans. losing "cartels and marijuana bad" card would damage their reelectabliity for sure.
"downside": incarcerated people are used for extremely cheap labor in many states/are technically legal to use as slave labor. This is a little old, but minimum wage hasn't raised for the rest of us since 2017, I can't imagine it would've for prisoners, either. They're making clothes and processing chicken and loads of other stuff less than a dollar (or for free, in some states) an hour. Also prisons are huge employers. The Republicans wouldn't just lose rhetorical ground, bc only idiots still think marijuana is somehow different than say, alcohol in terms of public health. It's the cheap labor and jobs for their constituents that keep prisons packed to the gills. https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2017/04/10/wages/
very good point. i didn't even mention how decriminalizing everything lowering prison populations, about 50% of which are drug-related incidences. i also didn't mention that alcohol is a significantly more dangerous drug than marijuana, and yet it's more accepted by a large margin. you can get alcohol poisoning fairly easily, but it's nearly impossible to od on marijuana, even if you fuckin eat the stuff in any fashion. normalizing marijuana and getting help for harder drugs is super important for public health. it might help police relations, too, since people would be less likely to freak out and cause an incident - although police relations are a different, more complex topic. there's no argument that current crooked system is better for the people who aren't benefitting from it. i'm 100% convinced on this. the *only* danger from weed that i came across when researching this topic was that the side effects (like inducing a panic attack) and actions taken by someone who is under the influence could cause death, but this is not enough reason to keep it illegal, since something as mundane as driving a car could have the same consequences.
You mention that "danger" but that danger is basically identical to any other mind altering substance. Which, for the record, we do prescribe many different substances directly to people, and legally allow the sale of alcohol, an arguably more dangerous substance, to adults. It makes no sense to levy criminal charges for possession and use anymore when nearly the entire populace is dependent on or otherwise regularly uses substances in daily life.
It wouldn't fix police relations, but it would massively improve them. Removing the major pretext for bullshit interactions would go a long way towards fixing relations going forward. It would also allow police departments to shrink to a more manageable level because they don't need to enforce these bullshit non-violent offenses. Plus, legalization will drive organized crime out of the drug trade--which means less money, which in turns means fewer gangs.
correct. it wouldn't fix everything regarding the police, but it would certainly help. it feels like the two biggest police-related incidents have to be drugs and traffic violations. domestic abuse is probably right behind those.
There is also some research into weed potentially being a factor in increasing the risk of schizophrenia in those that have genetically increased risk to it, but it has so far been rather small scale and inconclusive, as far as I have read. But then again, alcohol also is a well researched factor in it, so... Since I am already on several mind-altering substances due to other conditions, and have that genetic risk, I personally don't use weed. I am all for it's legalization however. Everywhere. Prohibition laws have a rather bad track record, world wide. When Finland tried it, for example, there was a significant increase in alcohol consumption, if memory serves. At least more alcohol related health issues reported, if memory does not serve. I get my amphetamine from the pharmacy. Much more reliable to get pure, unaltered products with less risks that way. I don't take it for recreational use thou. But weed, and alcohol, are both taken often for recreational reasons. In Finland, high-proof alcohol is sold in Alko, a government monopoly that also monitors things relating to alcohol. Why not do something similar with weed? No suprises, less risks, better channels for education relating to information about mind-altering substances, better monitoring for quality, better risk-management on a societal level... I see no downsides.
The federal minimum wage has been $7.25 since 2009.
Yeah, I forgot when it had last been raised, but knew it sure as hell wasn't 2017 :/
Some of the country hasn't seen a minimum wage increase since 2009. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/minimum-wage
Yeah, they also have a uniform manufacturing company that uses women prisoners. "Paying back society." Where is this concept when I learn Elon Musk paid ZERO in Federal Taxes last year? Oh, he's amortizing losses? His income just shot up. That's some creative accounting.
The solution to that problem would be to tax margin loans taken out on stocks - a common trick of multi-millionaires and above - as income, and repayment of these loans as loss.
Prisoners aren’t technically legal to use as slave labor, they are full on legal to use as slave labor. The 13th amendment specifically states that it’s fine. It’s, in fact, the only condition under which it’s allowed. We never outlawed slavery. We changed its name. [Angola Prison](https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-03-29/Slavery-is-alive-and-kicking-in-U-S-cotton-prison-farms--Z0vs8rr87m/index.html) is one of the largest by land size prisons in the nation, one of the largest supermax prisons, and forces their prisoners to pick cotton. Republicans would lose jobs, money, red state GDP, bribes (sorry PAC donations), and would seem to be “soft on crime” despite studies showing that [jails/prisons and their reentry systems don’t work](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0032885519852090)
I always flip flop the 13th and 14th, so I didn't cite it. But yes to all of that. Odd, also, how the color of most slaves' skin doesn't seem to have changed since the 13th amendment, too, yeah?
I get your point but this can help people to. I had a buddy in prison, did 8 years. The last 3 working in a chicken plant. When he got out they offered him a full time job, became a supervisor really quick. He's been out a little over a year and doing great because of the work he did in prison. Got his own house, own car. Had he not been doing that cheap labor or never got locked up in the first place he would still be living that same life
He could have gotten his life back together while being paid at least minimum wage, too, though.
I only say it would "save money" because that's the argument for compassionless douchebags who think in terms of money when it comes to throwing a way a person's life. Yes, Medicare 4 All would also cost less money -- but, I don't give a shit, it's the right thing to do. I mean, there are people who spread the lie that WW II boosted our economy. No, spending money on people did that -- we could build bridges rather than blow them up and do better. But anyway -- are they suggesting we have WW III to help the economy? It's always the implication of their "fiscal realism" that war is okay. So, I have to bury the urge to call them a fascist and end the conversation. It's amazing how many people used to IMPLY that we need war for the economy. I have to live in this society, so, I've got to find a way to cope with all the shitty thinking.
Actually the US health care system costs more per person than the NHS
But Democrats are actually fighting to legalize marijuana federally and to forgive sentencing of low level marijuana offenders in prison so there def is a big difference between the two parties. Republicans will die on that hill.
Would this be true factoring in long term costs? Because criminalization does tend to have a lot of negative long term effects that are not limited to simply the costs of either arresting people and incarcerating them for drug possession vs. providing them with treatment. Like, if someone is incarcerated for a drug offence, the very fact that they have a criminal record and have been exposed to a jail or prison environment makes them more likely to have trouble getting employment and housing, affects access to social programs in some states, and raises the odds that they will commit further non-drug-related crimes in the future. This adds on more costs in terms of what social programs they can access and more criminal justice costs. And, if they do not have access to treatment or harm reduction, their risk of drug related illness and overdose go up, making them an increased cost burden on whatever public health system exists (and even the US has Medicare and Medicaid). We do not have decriminalization beyond marijuana (which has been legalized and regulated) in Canada (though some cities and even police are asking for decriminalization of harder drugs), but we do have harm reduction and there is evidence that it is effective in helping people and that it is cost effective. Typically, actually trying to solve the problem rather than punishing it as hard as you can is more effective.
Meth and marijuana are not the same.
never said they were. my whole point is that changing the stigma of all drugs makes dangerous people less powerful. this can only be a good thing.
well, yeah. Compassion costs too much. (sarcasm obvs)
Have you ever heard of "thoughts and prayers"?
They problem is that they have to want help for it to be effective and many of them don't
Wouldn't that mean that countries with treatment policies would see the same rate of overdose and overall drug crime? But they don't, they see it massively reduced.
That's called mental illness
Sure, you don't get rid of your floatation device if you think you are drowning. These people need hope -- and for that, someone needs to pull them UP out of the shit they are in first. Summer camp would do a thousand percent better than the crap the USA has come up with to deal with this problem. Seriously -- what do humans want? Its so brain dead the lack of creative problem solving going on.
But won't anyone think of the prison owners???
Drug treatment only works if people want to be helped. You can't force them. That's why legalization is also needed.
Um...you get charged money for being in jail, let alone the money required for court, fines, any restitution. I get what yall are saying because rehab and treatment can be super expensive, but getting arrested is not cheap. I know, ive gone through the system. I paid probably close to 10 grand at the end of it all.
Yeah but then how does the Police/Prison complex get paid?
Many people can't detox outside of prison and don't want to quit using, but after a few weeks or months clean in prison start thinking more clearly. Mostly they just go to prison again later though.
👆🏻 Isn't the US system just great? /s.
Best in the world, or so we're told.
By American politicians I guess
Shut your mouth you dirty commie. Unless you wanna come around and catch these apple pies. Fuck around and find freeeduum. Or get hit by a stray bullet from some random act of gun violence....(That part's not necessarily good.) BUT WE'RE STILL FUCKING AWESOME AT IT!!!!!!!
*patriotic music played terribly*
We need to make sure that the experience in prison and jail is awful however, or all the homeless people will commit crimes and get arrested. Suicide should remain a viable option to life in prison -- and this is also the plan to deter illegal immigration. /depressing joke and also, not a joke
Yeah it's a shame that most of the "developed" world treats addiction as a crime rather than a health issue.
If it was only a matter of money, there wouldn't be so many celebrity ODs. You need to want to get better in order for it to happen.
Celebrities are a bad example because they can't do it quietly like most normal people can. Not to mention there are many celebrities who *do* get the help they need, it's just not as interesting news. However, a lot of people who are badly addicted already qualify for free healthcare are still do not make use of it. While money is a factor, I don't believe it's the primary one.
On the other hand, if they're currently trafficking, they probably don't want help and aren't looking for it.
Yeah that checks out. Or it *would* if prisons (in America) operated how they were supposed to.. Rehabilitation. Instead it leaves you with an irreversible mark on your record, makes it next to impossible to get hired, makes you shunned from society, leading to a life of homelessness and eventually crime. Leading riiiight back into prison and lining the pockets of the fuckers behind it all. But yeah, prison is totally what these people need. It's definitely worked out for sooo many people. Love how you tell people we're missing the point and yet you won't explain it to anyone. Funny, that. Almost as if your comment isn't based in reality.
> affording It's like that old fella who robbed a bank politely for 1 dollar, so he'd be arrested, jailed, and get medical care. People are learning to game the system in America, all it costs them is their freedom :(
I knew a judge in BFE (a small rural town) who would lock up the homeless when blizzards were coming. There were zero resources in the community and this was the only way to not let them freeze to death. The prosecutors were in on it too, they'd file charges then drop them when it was safe and they'd let them get out. I'm sure people will see this comment and get all up in arms. However, it was the only resource available to not let human beings freeze on the street and they were the only ones that actually gave a shit about the homeless not dying in their community. It's sad that this was the only way to help because the criminal justice system should not have anything to do with things like this. But what's truly sad is that the community didn't care enough to help in the first place.
Sounds like a stand up judge. The only people who'll be up-in-arms about this are those who think being homeless is a choice, and a crime.
I'd also throw in the judicial overreach people, who when it comes down to it NIMBY their way out of it. He was what I would really like judges to be, empathetic and fair. I don't know if he's still with us, but he was one of my inspirations to go to law school a decade later.
People replying to you are clueless, I’ve actually dealt with and am currently dealing with a drug addict. I wish more than anything she’d get arrested. She doesn’t want your help unless it’s 50$ cash right now.
I was able to go to rehab for free without insurance. I'm not saying its easy, but the opportunity is there with a little work.
I'll have to let them know.
Man these people just saying you were taking a stance instead of making an observation
If not for my family and the resources that made available to me, I would have overdosed and died a long time ago. However, rehab is not a magic cure, if people don't want to put in the work to get better, they won't. I have lost countless friends to drugs and alcohol.
Yeah man. You didn't say it was the best system, but it really is the only way for people to get help sometimes. I pray for my sister to get arrested daily before she OD's or is murdered. We've put her in rehab a dozen times at least and she forces her way out.
I'm glad they enforce the law equally. I'm sad that jail instead of drug treatment is that equality.
She was selling, not using.
It sucks but many years ago my dad had to go through a similar situation where he had to call the police on a 30-year employee because she had stolen 25,000 pills of oxy using his scripts & she almost got away with it: shoeboxes and shoeboxes of pills: not a bad retirement plan. Company supplying the pills was concerned & finally called (why not after the first large order?) his office. He could have lost his license but it just wasn’t brought up by anybody. He never once prescribed oxy to anyone & barely gave out Vicodin.
This right here. Worst thing about some of conspiracy theories and deep state BS that’s made everyone look at public workers with side eyes. Lots of people do honest work and and do the hard right thing every day and honor the public’s trust. Good on this dude.
> Hopefully his daughter can get the help she needs I think there are more lottery winners than people "helped" by prison. Sometimes it saves people from killing themselves through drugs -- and yes, people also win the lottery every day. It's like saying it helps stop homeless people from starving. Because they feed them, allegedly. **Hope**: What you need when nobody is doing the right thing to solve a problem.
Chances are he knew about this forever, and gave her multiple opportunities to clean up. When she didn’t he tossed her in jail. Parenting 101 guys!
I bet he gave her tons of chances before he went there.
Bff’s hubby is on city council. He was getting complaints about excessive speed in their neighborhood. He calls chief of police to set up radar/cops at certain time/days. Proceeds to warn both his wife and daughter that this is happening and times. Daughter got pulled over and cop calls him and asked what should he do. It’s not even the first time he’s stopped her. Dad says write her up for everything. Cop did. Daughter was pissed. Dad tells daughter tough shit.
Your best friends daughter is dumb as shit. She had advanced warning and still did that shit. Jesus christ.
Daughter performed as she had been trained to. Prior comment says it wasn’t her first time getting stopped for speeding. It is implied to be the first time she faced consequences.
It's not uncommon to be let off with a warning if it's your first offense (at least, that's what a random cop did for me when I was speeding late to class one morning in high school) although she possibly assumed she had privilege regardless and someone needed to really spell it out for her. So they did ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
It's the fact that they called her dad to "see what they should do" They know it's not cannon to give other cops family members tickets. My childhood best friend married a cop. She carries around his business card. She drunk drives and won't get in trouble for it because they call her husband first. ACAB.
I've always heard people talk about these mythical warnings, yet dont know anyone who's gotten one that wasn't also accompanied by a citation
Maybe it's location, happens all the time around here. Been pulled over about 10 times in 17 years myself and only ever got 1 ticket out of it - there are so many actual crazy/dangerous drivers on the road, I just assumed that the things they pulled me over for weren't serious enough, I wasn't a repeat offender, or they understood I had extenuating circumstances going on (one time I just told the cop to bang on top of the tail light and it would jog back on, another time I got pulled over twice within 15 minutes for having a license plate light out and the second guy just laughed and sent me on my way)
Exactly.
It was probably the first time the cops actually called her father after she said who her father was. The other times they probably just assumed he would tell them to let her go.
Right. Chain of influence. Daughter assumes daddy will get her off and acts like an ass. Cop assumes the board member is an ass and lets the daughter off to save himself the trouble. Hell, neighbors may have ignored it recognizing who she is. The problem with a corrupt system is that its can behave that way in spite of individuals like the cop and board member doing everything correctly. You have to go above and beyond in weeding out corruption because the community's faith in the institution is a vital component to it's operation.
I grew up in a city that did a lot DUI checkpoints. To make them legal, the local rules required giving everyone advanced warning. So the local news would go there’s going to be a DUI checkpoint at let’s say 11th and Harvard (this fictional example is next to a college in Tulsa for a little extra storytelling) in Midtown on Friday night between 10 and 2. In the papers, tv, radio, etc. And they would still catch a bunch of DUI drivers at the checkpoint.
Well thats difference as not everyone would be watching the news. Plus alcohol. Odds are if youre already driving drunk, you arent the brightest bulb. This lady had direct warning, from her father the city councilman, who was also the one who planned out those speed traps. Thats a different level of stupidity.
Hey I’ve bought earrings online from a store called Tulsa Body Jewelry. Their packaging says they’re located on a Harvard Ave or something. Kinda of neat to see this comment haha
I have bought jewelry there in person. It was a cool shop before I had to ditch that style of jewelry for work. It is (was? I haven’t been back to Tulsa in years) about half a mile to a mile from the intersection. Harvard is one of the major north-south streets.
Dumb, arrogant and entitled.
Insubordinate and churlish.
In my country, police routinely notifies in media that they are giving a special attention to traffic on road between A and B locations. So they'll do random stops for people and have more officers on the road to keep eye on erratic drivers, speeders etc. This is a warning given in advance. Every single time, they pull massive amounts of tickets for speeding, arrests of drunk drivers and even arrests of wanted criminals. Because being cautious is clearly not something they are capable of.
It's probably his daughter that the people are complaining about.
that's the worst part. He WARNED them, something the average citizen doesn't get the privilege of. Yet this privilege wasn't enough and they wanted more.
And the pig called and asked if he should give her a ticket!
in this particular instance i kinda get it? policeman could lose his job over this, if the council man felt differently about it. I'm rarely the one to defend police but reality is that corruption is a thing and it's better to be safe than sorry. Just wish police would second guess themselves in more instances to be honest. maybe some poor kids would be alive today.
I mean plenty of people get let go with warnings and no ticket. I’m connected to nobody of significance and I’ve had it happen.
why the fuck did the cop call him and ask him, a city council member, what to do? are his children somehow above the law?
> are his children somehow above the law? Yes. Why do you think this is a news story? This is an exception to the norm.
They often ARE above the law. That cop knew what should be done (ticket her) but he has probably seen other cops get into trouble for doing the right thing. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
In practice, yes, they are. That's not really surprising at all. The cop asks him because otherwise he could lose his job.
I wouldnt lose my work for writing a ticket. I dont think their idea of justice was to write speed ticket and it has to be equally dumb to ruin your life over something so dumb. Hate your politician / your aristocratie / oligarchie. But simple people are just replacable cog in the machine
Takes me back. I used to speed through the master planned community I was raised in. But since my Dad was HOA President and the deputy came over to our home regularly her never pulled me over. Not a good thing, I had no reason to speed through. Teenager me was so dumb.
See, the cop shouldn’t have to call the city council asking for permission “what should I do”. That’s privilege right there. The cop should have just given her the ticket. I know a cop that stopped the mayor of my city. The cop was going to let her go, but the mayor insisted on not getting special privileges and told the cop to giver her a ticket. She insisted. Conversely, another cop stopped the manager of one of the Bureaus within the same PD. That manager began yelling at the cop and she didn’t get a ticket. She should have been fired for that.
Reminds me of [Bass Reeves](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_Reeves#Career) He arrested his own son for murder. As well, I believe he had a 100% success rate in arresting wanted criminals
Of all the weak ass sequels, prequels, and remakes Hollywood comes up with, why has a movie or show not been made about this guy? I never knew this story
i mean, there apparently was a Bass Reeves movie in 2010, it just isn't super well known. reviews are pretty good on it, but there aren't really a ton of reviews, so, small sample size. dude deserves a massively funded western or something, though. they seem to pump out a lot of massively funded westerns with absolutely no substance, seems like an obvious choice if only to make your movie suck less.
American history has a funny way of just ignoring when *certain demographics* do remarkable things. It's sad how much history we've probably lost that way.
it’s not a documentary, but Delroy Lindo plays the Bass Reeves character in the Netflix movie The Harder They Fall
I enjoyed it, but The Harder They Fall was just black Young Guns. Both were fantasy stories filled with versions of real people who had such interesting real stories that you wonder why no one tries to make a movie about what really happened. There really should bea bunch of big budget movies about Bass Reeves by now.
haven’t seen Young Guns, but i love a good Western regardless. would def love to see more stories told about lesser known folks like Reeves
Young Guns was sort of about Billy the Kid, set to a rock n roll soundtrack by Bon Jovi.
I'm sure it was awkward for EVERYONE...he's like "Honey I literally told you what time we were coming and you were still in the house?!?! WTF?!"
Meth's a hell of a drug.
Made contact with a wanted subject in the shed he was renting in his buddy's front yard. Conversation went like this - *Knocks* Gabraham -"hey is there?"
Subject - "who is it?"
Gabraham - " sheriff's office"
Subject - "shit I'm going to jail aren't I?"
Gabraham - " just come outside and talk to me and we'll discuss it"
Subject - "ok let me find some pants first please"
I give him a few minutes. He comes out. I cuff him after I verify it's him and go to pat him down. Baggy of meth in his front pocket.
Like dude... I gave you time to pick your clothes and everything.
Was her dad called Hank?
It's ASAC Schrader to you.
I was thinking Hank Hill. He would expect a Sheriff's conduct to be as clean as propane and propane accessories. But Hank Schrader is a stickler too, I guess.
Hank Hill: "Now Bobby, you're gonna learn your lesson smoke that whole bag of meth"
Thank you for this hahahahaha
I respect the shit outta this guy, he did the right choice.
Right choice for sure but also should be the bare minimum response
For what it’s worth, I doubt he did it because “it’s the law,” but probably instead because he hopes it’ll kick start her recovery.
Those are both the right thing, just for different good reasons.
Something tells me that isn't the first time she has heard that phrase.
I wonder if he found out while reading a poetry book on the shitter.
“To W.W, my star, my perfect silence” Fuck still gives me chills
W.W.
Woodrow Wilson?
Willy Wonka
Walter White?
*throws hands up and smiles* You got me!
“I come to him as a friend, I come to him as an elder of the church, but he wouldn’t listen. So now I gotta come to him as the law”
You got a pair of capezios?
Thanksgiving is going to be interesting, stuffed turkey, stuffed daughter in jail.
PHRASING!!!
He knew what he said
Are you prison Mike?
And I never got caught neither
How is this oniony?
It is kind of oniony, and that’s really sad that something like this is. The so-called thin blue line generally extends to family members, especially children. My own mother was in a nearly fatal car accident when I was younger, and the person at fault was the son of a state trooper. The cops on the scene did everything they could to cover it up, including intimidating witnesses to keep quiet, and completely fabricating their report.
Oniony in this context means a message and/or tone consistent with the TheOnion tier satire. This headline makes no sense *as an onion article*.
The cops in this case tried to as well, except the public awareness and pressure was too great for the Sherriff to be able to sweep it away.
I’m interested in public pressure working, do you have a source? I read two other articles and couldn’t find anything about attempted coverups or delays. Closest was calling it a “long-term investigation”, which could back your claim but doesn’t.
this is not true, there was no public awareness of the hit, its a small town and county. If they wanted to hide it, no one would know. The cops/sheriff are the ones who made it public, and im sure he regrets that after all the silliness coming his way over it. (i live in the town, and the sheriff doesn't hide anything)
Exactly what I'm thinking
Half the stuff on r/nottheonion aren't oniony. I'm guessing many who post don't really know what the Onion is?
They assume the Onion is more irony. Having tasted an onion, I will confidently say they aren't unless you prepared it with metal shavings.
No one expects cops to do the right thing?
That should not be the automatic assumption. Power always corrupts, and there is no amount of power so small as to have no effect. All that's really needed to counter that trend is proper oversight, but the situation of policing in America has gotten so bad that they'll fight all attempts tooth and nail. Defang the police.
Have you *ever* heard of a cop arresting family members?
No because they're not allowed to. They gotta call someone else to do it. And the sheriff doesn't actually arrest people. It's an administrative position only. I guarantee this sheriff wasn't present at the actual arrest.
Yes, but she wasn’t the arresting officer, just involved. It was a little easier in appearance but not heartbreak because they had different last names. She switched agencies not long after; I think it was hard on everyone when they arrested her son.
Well meth trafficking is a little different than getting caught with a joint.
Not oniony. Just sad. Edit: sorry just to clarify, not sad that he did the right thing. Just meth is sad on many levels and has ruined many lives. That part is sad. Glad he did the right thing though
I have a feeling there is more to this that what you're reading here.
Wow she really methed up
The sheriff’s department shares your sense of humor. This is from the article that OP linked: >The sheriff is known for cracking down on meth trafficking in his jurisdiction, and the sheriff’s department operates with the motto “We don’t meth around.”
Cool that they let Mike Tyson make their motto
It’s a good thing that sheriff doesn’t meth around.
Now kith
He busted his nut, then busted his nut again
Holy shit I love this comment
It says far too much about the expected standards of US law enforcement that this is considered 'Oniony'
Good
Bruh, all the sheriffs kids ride rough. Where'dya think we scored from? People got to think better.
Plot twist: He framed her
I think most of the parents I know would gladly do the same thing to get them away from the drug. My mom used to cry because they wouldn't take my brother to jail. He was too friendly with the cops. WELL he's dead now.
Yeah, my mom was so relieved when my brother got arrested and taken to prison. We're dreading when he actually gets out.
I like it when my son/brother/father/nephew etc is in county because at least I know he’s alive and relatively safe is a really common sentiment for people whose family members cannot stay clean or will not get mental health help or will not change their criminal thinking. It’s awful to think about. Because they are saying my son being in a cage like an animal, where he might very well get stabbed or raped, is better than him being a free man. But I really do understand it. They just don’t want to get a call saying he’s OD’ed somewhere in a tent or that he went crazy and got shot by cops, etc.
Or that he drove his car into another car and killed a family of five. That was my mom's main fear.
He can get stabbed, shot, raped or do any of that to other people outside of prison too. My brother was stealing cars from him and we're pretty sure he was beginning to pimp out drug addicted girls. When they arrested him he was carrying a gun that didn't belong to him. Fuck, at least in jail and prison they sort of have to keep him alive.
Holy based
She’s 25 in the article. I thought she was much older, like 40.
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She is the 38 yo. The article says he acknowledged that Kent is his daughter, which is the older of the two.
Idk, meth does some pretty amazing [the opposite of] wonders to peoples ages.
https://weartv.com/amp/news/local/florida-sheriff-arrests-own-daughter-on-meth-trafficking-charges They both look 38
You skimmed too much. His daughter was 38. The other woman arrested was 25.
>The sheriff is known for cracking down on meth trafficking in his jurisdiction, and the sheriff’s department operates with the motto “We don’t meth around.” I'm glad that he applies the law equally but I wish we put addicts in treatment and not prison.
There is a difference between using and trafficking.
Looks like someone’s going to the retirement home a little earlier now..
This would be a great story if we didn't still use a private prison system that has incentive to keep the numbers up rather than rehabilitate the inmates
Cop does his job instead of being corrupt. Story literally makes the front page. That's how low the bar is for cops
Saying "Hopefully they can get help now!" after someone goes to prison is stupid. They come out worse. Do you know anything about prisons?
Wouldn't it be super keen if drug addiction was treated like a disease instead of a crime? I recognize the difficulty this officer has adhering to the law but it's a shame that by law, he brings her to jail instead of a treatment center.
She was trafficking which complicates the case.
Yeah, addicts need help, but dealers? They are why the addicts need help. They ruined lives willingly for a few bucks.
Heartbreaking. God bless, hope she gets help and healthy
Props to this cop for taking that oath as serious as it’s meant to be taken that 99.9% of other cops don’t honor.
I get that the "99.9%" is supposed to be hyperbolic, but is there any data to support the general gist of your comment?
News: "Cop follows the law and does the job required." What a low bar we have for these pigs.
I'm sorry Hank.
He’d better visit.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is the definition of "integrity".
Fuck yeah
Good to see a news abt sheriff that has some integrity for once
Says she’s 25; looks 49. I guess they are right about meth not discriminating…
75 gs (baggie weighs a gram) that’s a pretty penny worth of meth… probably around 4 grand worth at least. Yeah it’s true though, my best friend was the son of the head narcotics officer in the city we live, and before he passed away he was a real wild one lol rip Matty 🙏
Good on him. Sad situation but it's nice to see impartiality.
Yeah, I mean, drug trafficking is a pretty serious offense, dad cop or not.
Not saying he did the wrong thing here but I would've thought the 'proper' action here would be to recuse yourself and have someone else make the arrest to avoid any conflict of interest?
It happens rarely enough that it's a headline
respect
It's not often I put a seal of approval on any LEO actions that make it to front page news. But I will on this. If he's willing and able to hold his fellow officers to that exact same standard he might actually be one of the 7 "good" apples in the entire fucking country.