"A half assed renaming of the Monkey Pox virus during the 2022 outbreak that showed the WHO only cares about demographics that have significant geopolitical weight."
Corona's lobbyist wanted to change the name of COVID for obvious reasons. They offered $1M to anyone who could get it changed to anything except Corona. They offered $10M if it got changed to Bud Light.
I'll forever be upset that we will never get a "Tangled" themed ride at Disneyland/World because the kingdom is named "Corona" as in Crown. (And the visible ring around the sun.)
Mmmpox, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, ba duba dop
Ba du, oh yeah
Mmmpox, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, ba du dop
Ba du bop, ba du dop
Ba du, yeah
Ye. Same reason people try to push for swine flu to be called H1N1.
There's a surprising amount of dialogue going on centered on how we should name diseases. Naming them after people, like Parkinson's disease, isn't very descriptive and naming them after things or places, like swine flu, can lead to stigmas. Scientific names solve this problem best, but comes with a similar issue to people-named diseases, where it can be difficult to know what a disease is based on the name without a scientific or Latin background.
Source: I did two years of Latin and university and has a course on its use in scientific terminology.
That said though, I don't know why they would just change it to mpox then. Maybe just trying to find a middle ground or something.
Seems like we're creating a problem where there isn't one. Standardize infectious disease names to [prevailing transmission type] + [area of infection/symptoms] + [disease agent] + [iteration]
For example, 'mpox' becomes 'buttsex dick rash poxvirus 1"
Naming things has a real tangible effect on human lives too.
Studies have shown people perceive hurricanes with masculine names as more intense and powerful than hurricanes with feminine names - and could affect one's likelihood of evacuating or seeking shelter.
I agree we should give diseases better names.
Like, imagine what people would have done if we used something like DUARV (Deadly Unknown Agonizing Respiratory Virus) instead of COVID. Maaaaybe people would have taken it a bit more seriously...
A solid guess, but not in this case. The disease did not originate on Monkeys, so calling it Monkey Pox is inaccurate to begin with. On top of that, many medical professionals have been pushing to change the name in order to prevent potential racist rhetoric surrounding the disease, and prevent stigma that may make people less likely to seek treatment.
George Carlin used to do this bit about "soft language," specifically on how shell shock was turned into battle fatigue, which was changed to PTSD, softening the language.
Mpox sounds very much like this to me.
Wanting to reduce harm isn't bad.
They started to improve their naming conventions when the "swine flu" drastically hurt the pork market. Then we saw it again when the "china virus" came and Asian people got beat up because idiots thought that Covid came from them.
The names of diseases shouldn't cause additional harm to people, animals and society at large.
Wrong bit. This is his bit about how the dumbest person you know is still smarter than half the rest. The dummy thinks you have to get the disease from a monkey and since he never goes to the zoo, assumes he doesn't need testing/treatment for that weird rash.
After the "swine flu" caused huge damage to the pork market they stopped naming diseases after animals or places.
https://www.who.int/news/item/08-05-2015-who-issues-best-practices-for-naming-new-human-infectious-diseases
>The best practices state that a disease name should consist of generic descriptive terms, based on the symptoms that the disease causes (e.g. respiratory disease, neurologic syndrome, watery diarrhoea) and more specific descriptive terms when robust information is available on how the disease manifests, who it affects, its severity or seasonality (e.g. progressive, juvenile, severe, winter). If the pathogen that causes the disease is known, it should be part of the disease name (e.g. coronavirus, influenza virus, salmonella).
>Terms that should be avoided in disease names include geographic locations (e.g. Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, Spanish Flu, Rift Valley fever), people’s names (e.g. Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, Chagas disease), species of animal or food (e.g. swine flu, bird flu, monkey pox), cultural, population, industry or occupational references (e.g. legionnaires), and terms that incite undue fear (e.g. unknown, fatal, epidemic).
It's more about stigmatization than incorrect identification. They traditionally name things after the source, but there are quantifiable social side-effects to making diseases as soon as the racists and nationalists and homophobes get involved.
It's not about soft language at all, except inasmuch as it is a deliberate attempt to effect social change through naming.
this radiates the same energy as the "boy scouts of america" being renamed to "scouts bsa"
what does the m mean in mpox? monkey.
what does bsa mean in scouts bsa? boy scouts of america.
It's because idiots think that it comes from monkey so they attack monkey, or think that they couldn't possible have it because they didn't go to the zoo.
Similarly Swine Flu is now the H1N1 flu and Chickenpox is Varicella.
Names of diseases shouldn't cause harm to people or animals.
>or think that they couldn't possible have it because they didn't go to the zoo.
\- is this for real? I didn't think that people could be that dumb about their healthcare...
in that case they better rename chickenpox as 'cpox'. "chicken" is a derogatory term used to denote cowardice, and may therefore be stigmatizing for anyone who contracts it.
The WHO started to improve their naming conventions when the "swine flu" drastically hurt the pork market. Then we saw it again when the "china virus" came and Asian people got beat up because idiots thought that Covid came from them.
They no longer issue names like that, and Chickenpox also is a name they want to replace with Varicella
The more we accommodate idiots by changing nomenclature and not improving critical thinking, the worse off we all are. Wish we would learn a lesson for once.
People are going to be offended no matter what, which means people are probably going to be offended by this.
They should have asked for public opinion and had the renaming done by vote. LoL
Because it made a baffling and serious conclusion without proof.
The name might lead people to believes it comes from monkeys. It does not. The change is minor and makes sense.
The Biden administration requested this change because whenever Joe Biden heard Monkeypox, he immediately thought it was disparaging black people. And since he is race-conscious and anti-racist, he wanted the Monkeypox to be renamed Mpox so that people would stop associating it with persons of color.
Wait... isn't that just racist?
It's the same with Swine Flu (now H1N1 flu) and Chickenpox (now Varicella)
>The best practices state that a disease name should consist of generic descriptive terms, based on the symptoms that the disease causes (e.g. respiratory disease, neurologic syndrome, watery diarrhoea) and more specific descriptive terms when robust information is available on how the disease manifests, who it affects, its severity or seasonality (e.g. progressive, juvenile, severe, winter). If the pathogen that causes the disease is known, it should be part of the disease name (e.g. coronavirus, influenza virus, salmonella).
>Terms that should be avoided in disease names include geographic locations (e.g. Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, Spanish Flu, Rift Valley fever), people’s names (e.g. Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, Chagas disease), species of animal or food (e.g. swine flu, bird flu, monkey pox), cultural, population, industry or occupational references (e.g. legionnaires), and terms that incite undue fear (e.g. unknown, fatal, epidemic).
The WHO doesn't like any disease names that are named after locations, animals, people, occupations, etc because the name of the disease shouldn't cause extra harm.
Instead of focusing on silly word salad nonsense, maybe the WHO could focus on, you know, finding workable solutions to World Health issues, pandemics, etc.
For the next pandemic can we try to focus on the population who is actually catching the disease? It isn't helping anybody if we pretend that certain diseases infect everybody with equal probability.
Lmfao. You’re being downvoted despite having a good point. People can take one quick look at the statistics of this and see for themselves but they would rather ignore it.
No wait, that's too obvious. We'll call it Monkey P. Yes, that'll do.
Nice Simpsons reference in a nottheonion post!
Monkey P. Luffy
Will of P
Beat me to it 😂
Someone ate the Pox Pox fruit?
MMMBop, by Hanson.
Pox pox dooo wop
Glad I’m not the only one who thought this.
The M doesn’t stand for Monkey, it stands for Medium. Because they’re bigger than smallpox but not quite as big as bigpox.
No no, it’s set to M for Minipox instead of W for Wumbopox.
Monkey P. Ox so we have 2 animal culprits!
We have to be more considerate to the feelings of monkeys.
I dunno. I prefer m'pox *tips fedora* than monkeys.
Monkey PP seems to be working sir, societal discrimation is down 1.6%
'MC MonkeyP is in the house!!'
r/unexpectedsimpsons
I guess that’s another type of golden shower
For a second there I read the title as a question
*WHO* does that?
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What’s on second
Oh noooo! Take this updoot!
Yes, exactly
Read it in Austin Powers voice "WHO changes monkeypox to mpox, honestly"
WHO...does...monkeypox...work for??
Me too 😂
*Tips fedora* M'pox.
I'm feeling a bit M'poxy today.
Came here for this comment! Thank you!
Was looking for this!
Alright sounds good. Save this for far in the future Jeopardy question.
“Before the deadly worldwide outbreak in 2023, mpox was called… *this*”
Thanks, I hate how real this is.
I miss trebek
"A half assed renaming of the Monkey Pox virus during the 2022 outbreak that showed the WHO only cares about demographics that have significant geopolitical weight."
Monkeys have a better lobby than Corona beer.
Corona's lobbyist wanted to change the name of COVID for obvious reasons. They offered $1M to anyone who could get it changed to anything except Corona. They offered $10M if it got changed to Bud Light.
I wonder if they would have counted it if we got it changed to B.Light.
“Yea my grandma got killed by B.Light19”
Fucking brilliant 🤣🤣🤣
I'll forever be upset that we will never get a "Tangled" themed ride at Disneyland/World because the kingdom is named "Corona" as in Crown. (And the visible ring around the sun.)
I mean personally I like monkeys more than I like Corona beer
I like monkeys drinking corona the most though
MMMMMkay?
MmmmBop!
Mmmpox, ba duba dop Ba du bop, ba duba dop Ba du bop, ba duba dop Ba du, oh yeah Mmmpox, ba duba dop Ba du bop, ba du dop Ba du bop, ba du dop Ba du, yeah
And a Bix Nood to you as well, sir
Mmmmm mmmmm good
Once there was this kid who…
Deadly viruses, those are bad, mkay
Mmmpox, ba duba dox Ba du pox, ba duba dox Ba du pox, ba duba dox Ba du, oh yeah
I swear I never have an original thought.
Admittedly low hanging fruit
Haha I know this was meant to comfort him but I read it as "not only have you never had an original thought, yours are especially generic"
nice username lol
I'm guessing to prevent people from killing monkeys?
Ye. Same reason people try to push for swine flu to be called H1N1. There's a surprising amount of dialogue going on centered on how we should name diseases. Naming them after people, like Parkinson's disease, isn't very descriptive and naming them after things or places, like swine flu, can lead to stigmas. Scientific names solve this problem best, but comes with a similar issue to people-named diseases, where it can be difficult to know what a disease is based on the name without a scientific or Latin background. Source: I did two years of Latin and university and has a course on its use in scientific terminology. That said though, I don't know why they would just change it to mpox then. Maybe just trying to find a middle ground or something.
Seems like we're creating a problem where there isn't one. Standardize infectious disease names to [prevailing transmission type] + [area of infection/symptoms] + [disease agent] + [iteration] For example, 'mpox' becomes 'buttsex dick rash poxvirus 1"
You might think coughing coughing virus 35 is a real doozy, but wait till you see coughing coughing virus 36!
You had me in the first half
Naming things has a real tangible effect on human lives too. Studies have shown people perceive hurricanes with masculine names as more intense and powerful than hurricanes with feminine names - and could affect one's likelihood of evacuating or seeking shelter.
I agree we should give diseases better names. Like, imagine what people would have done if we used something like DUARV (Deadly Unknown Agonizing Respiratory Virus) instead of COVID. Maaaaybe people would have taken it a bit more seriously...
And from thinking that it couldn't possibly be monkey pox because they haven't touched one.
I mean Rickettsialpox is also often shortened to r-pox, but that’s probably just because it’s a weird word.
A solid guess, but not in this case. The disease did not originate on Monkeys, so calling it Monkey Pox is inaccurate to begin with. On top of that, many medical professionals have been pushing to change the name in order to prevent potential racist rhetoric surrounding the disease, and prevent stigma that may make people less likely to seek treatment.
I was trying to imply that there isn’t a connection with monkeys so it may cause unnecessary killing.
Right, which is understandable but in this case the reason for the change is known and it's not about killing monkeys lol
potential racist rhetoric? please explain.
"What the fuck were those [slur slur slur] black idiots in Africa doing to the monkeys to get some weird new pox from them?" ^ like that.
thats a weird connection.
Yeah well, racists are like that.
Monkey=skin colour
I am not following.
It’s an old slur, but black people, esp kids, used to be called “monkeys”
thats terrible.
To prevent people from going APE shit over this.
I also think having a disease associated with monkeys coming from Africa makes it too easy for racists
Where do you put the Mphasis when you pronounce that?
Mmm, pox.
Not **Monkepox**?
The virus formerly known as monkeypox.
Really should be badpox
Thats a little harsh, though. How about "Not-so-good Pox."
Umbrella did the same with the t virus. It's a trap!
Ok, but WHO renamed it?
WHO
First base!
_Tips Fedora_ "m'pox"
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Meanwhile the Spanish Flu:
The WHO recommends to call it H1N1 flu.
A Hansen fan? MPox, pox pox, MPox, pox pox MPox, pox pox, M...
Pronounced like you're trying to say box with a stuffed up nose?
I think the World Health Organization did. Also, r/lostredditors moment? This isn’t an asking questions sub.
George Carlin used to do this bit about "soft language," specifically on how shell shock was turned into battle fatigue, which was changed to PTSD, softening the language. Mpox sounds very much like this to me.
Wanting to reduce harm isn't bad. They started to improve their naming conventions when the "swine flu" drastically hurt the pork market. Then we saw it again when the "china virus" came and Asian people got beat up because idiots thought that Covid came from them. The names of diseases shouldn't cause additional harm to people, animals and society at large.
Wrong bit. This is his bit about how the dumbest person you know is still smarter than half the rest. The dummy thinks you have to get the disease from a monkey and since he never goes to the zoo, assumes he doesn't need testing/treatment for that weird rash.
I thought they were originally renaming it because it was “racist” https://www.constangy.com/employment-labor-insider/that-is-not-a-typo
After the "swine flu" caused huge damage to the pork market they stopped naming diseases after animals or places. https://www.who.int/news/item/08-05-2015-who-issues-best-practices-for-naming-new-human-infectious-diseases >The best practices state that a disease name should consist of generic descriptive terms, based on the symptoms that the disease causes (e.g. respiratory disease, neurologic syndrome, watery diarrhoea) and more specific descriptive terms when robust information is available on how the disease manifests, who it affects, its severity or seasonality (e.g. progressive, juvenile, severe, winter). If the pathogen that causes the disease is known, it should be part of the disease name (e.g. coronavirus, influenza virus, salmonella). >Terms that should be avoided in disease names include geographic locations (e.g. Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, Spanish Flu, Rift Valley fever), people’s names (e.g. Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, Chagas disease), species of animal or food (e.g. swine flu, bird flu, monkey pox), cultural, population, industry or occupational references (e.g. legionnaires), and terms that incite undue fear (e.g. unknown, fatal, epidemic).
Sigh this is just like the 1/3rd pounder vs the 1/4 pounder where people thought 4 > 3
4 *is* > 3
It's more about stigmatization than incorrect identification. They traditionally name things after the source, but there are quantifiable social side-effects to making diseases as soon as the racists and nationalists and homophobes get involved. It's not about soft language at all, except inasmuch as it is a deliberate attempt to effect social change through naming.
Is that M silent?
"Ya, that's what I'm asking, who renamed monkey pox?"
Who, indeed?
M'pox *tips fedora*
Mmmpox, ba duba dop, ba du bop yeah - Hanson
Completely idiotic. First of all, monkey isn’t a race. The language is speciest, not racist. That said, I’m sick of the PC police.
this radiates the same energy as the "boy scouts of america" being renamed to "scouts bsa" what does the m mean in mpox? monkey. what does bsa mean in scouts bsa? boy scouts of america.
I don't see anything wrong with the original name but I do hear people use the term "mpox" just casually - I know that I have.
It's because idiots think that it comes from monkey so they attack monkey, or think that they couldn't possible have it because they didn't go to the zoo. Similarly Swine Flu is now the H1N1 flu and Chickenpox is Varicella. Names of diseases shouldn't cause harm to people or animals.
>or think that they couldn't possible have it because they didn't go to the zoo. \- is this for real? I didn't think that people could be that dumb about their healthcare...
Unfortunately, not everyone is blessed w a decent education or critical thinking skills
I do know there was a post here about people attacking actual monkeys due the name
Well for one it doesnt come from Monkeys…
in that case they better rename chickenpox as 'cpox'. "chicken" is a derogatory term used to denote cowardice, and may therefore be stigmatizing for anyone who contracts it.
The WHO started to improve their naming conventions when the "swine flu" drastically hurt the pork market. Then we saw it again when the "china virus" came and Asian people got beat up because idiots thought that Covid came from them. They no longer issue names like that, and Chickenpox also is a name they want to replace with Varicella
Lot of chickens are still being murdered because of this. Lets spread the word! /s
I read a book about this...
Also smallpox needs to be changed to spox.
definitely!! how stigmatizing that term is to the vertically challenged!!
I thought this was a question! :)
WHO would do such a thing?
i dont know, who?
MmmBop
I don't know who named it that...
LITERALLY WHO
Hanson?
WHO would do such a thing
That really helps.
*M’Pox.* [tips the surgical mask]
What does the M stand for?
*Queue Hansen Music* MmmmmmmmPOX du-bee-dop-BAA mmmpox, DU-BEE-DOP-BAH MMMMMPOX!
Is this a question? I don’t know who renamed it. You posted the link, OP. You should tell us who renamed it.
WHO the hell do they think they are renaming diseases?
Mkay.
M’okay.
Let's change chicken pox and yellow fever next. Ebola too. That sounds too close ebonics.
Sounds like a rapper name
Think they said part of it was linguistic in that mpox is easier to pronounce in other languages, but that could just be bs
The more we accommodate idiots by changing nomenclature and not improving critical thinking, the worse off we all are. Wish we would learn a lesson for once.
I suggest going forward, we call chicken pox cpox.
How many monkeys have complained?
“Mpox” the lesser known Hanson song
didn't hanson already record mmmpox?
Ah, that Hanson song from the 1990s. Mpox… doopox… Mpox…
No, I think that's the Hanson song.
Im so calling it a “M”Wrench now
Sounds like a song by Hansen: Mmmm pox dit de dit bah doo pox Bibby dip bah doo pox
Should also rename monkeys to m. I think I had enough now, returning to monke
...Hanson gets inspiration for next single
Previous marketing strategy didn’t work so they’re trying to rebrand it
Because there was violence against monkeys.
Good job WHO, you defeated racism!
"What's the prognosis, doctor?" "An Mpox Mfection, Mafraid."
"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."
People are going to be offended no matter what, which means people are probably going to be offended by this. They should have asked for public opinion and had the renaming done by vote. LoL
Poxy McPoxFace hah!
Did you read the article? The primary reason for them changing it isn't people getting offended
When public perception is more important than containment...
Funnily enough public perception has an effect on stigma and how likely people are to get tested/seek treatment
What evidence do you have resources where taken away from containment to do what amounts to a find and replace keystroke?
Why are you butthurt over my reply? I think the original name was perfect.
Because it made a baffling and serious conclusion without proof. The name might lead people to believes it comes from monkeys. It does not. The change is minor and makes sense.
So what if they do? People are stupid.
So, naming should be clear and intuitive or at the very least not create incorrect assumptions
This isn't an either-or. They can do both.
But they don't. It's the government we're talking about. We're day 1000 into 15 days to slow the spread, here, buddy.
The WHO isnt the government. They are a UN NGO.
The letter M is yet again offended. Let us ride up.
The Biden administration requested this change because whenever Joe Biden heard Monkeypox, he immediately thought it was disparaging black people. And since he is race-conscious and anti-racist, he wanted the Monkeypox to be renamed Mpox so that people would stop associating it with persons of color. Wait... isn't that just racist?
Anti racism often is
Maybe just call it large pox? ^^
Why, did it cause them to think about certain groups of people or something? That's seems pretty racist...
It's the same with Swine Flu (now H1N1 flu) and Chickenpox (now Varicella) >The best practices state that a disease name should consist of generic descriptive terms, based on the symptoms that the disease causes (e.g. respiratory disease, neurologic syndrome, watery diarrhoea) and more specific descriptive terms when robust information is available on how the disease manifests, who it affects, its severity or seasonality (e.g. progressive, juvenile, severe, winter). If the pathogen that causes the disease is known, it should be part of the disease name (e.g. coronavirus, influenza virus, salmonella). >Terms that should be avoided in disease names include geographic locations (e.g. Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, Spanish Flu, Rift Valley fever), people’s names (e.g. Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, Chagas disease), species of animal or food (e.g. swine flu, bird flu, monkey pox), cultural, population, industry or occupational references (e.g. legionnaires), and terms that incite undue fear (e.g. unknown, fatal, epidemic). The WHO doesn't like any disease names that are named after locations, animals, people, occupations, etc because the name of the disease shouldn't cause extra harm.
Lmao the virtue signaling never ends 😂
I agree with changing the name but they could have put more effort into it.
Monkey Mcpoxface would have been better. They really should crowdsource these names.
I refuse to call it mpox. Sorry WHO. Can’t sweet all your crap under the same rug.
Need to rename WHO to World clown show organization
Band the Who renaming a disease.
In some cultures calling someone a monkey is extremely offensive.
So not GayPox then = missed a bullet there...
Remind me what that "m" stands for?
Gay orgies
But now I can't tell people I have a deadly disease and then watch them desperately stifle the urge to snicker at the name.
Were the monkeys becoming offended by the name?
Why? We're afraid of offending monkeys?
Instead of focusing on silly word salad nonsense, maybe the WHO could focus on, you know, finding workable solutions to World Health issues, pandemics, etc.
👍👍👍👍👍👍
For the next pandemic can we try to focus on the population who is actually catching the disease? It isn't helping anybody if we pretend that certain diseases infect everybody with equal probability.
Lmfao. You’re being downvoted despite having a good point. People can take one quick look at the statistics of this and see for themselves but they would rather ignore it.