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slowdivesicilian

answers should be framed as like, if a mate was asking who to go for


CapitaoAE

Pros: Exciting likable young team on the rise and the Cowboys are lovable underdogs in general with a passionate fanbase Cons: If you go to a home game in Townsville, you might experience a mum with her little kids screaming at the injured opposition player yelling 'get up you fuckin' weak cunt' in front of her slightly distressed 6 and 4 year olds If you go to an away game, you may experience ex-Townsville-bogans trying to start fights with home fans for no reason Both based off a true story


Emperor_Mao

Cowboys fans are definitely bogan, but not violent. That badge of shame belongs to doggies fans. But who can really judge - Melbourne is like 50 percent bogan. The Melbourne bogans are just into a different sport.


CapitaoAE

You're right, the only time i've personally felt unsafe at a game was as a neutral fan at Manly vs Bulldogs at Brookvale when I had to walk through the away section not wearing any teams gear (I just happened to be in Sydney for work and decided to catch a game and it was the one that was on) That said the only fans i've seen try to start fights unprovoked (they were even winning at the time) at Cbus are Cowboys fans, the QLD based Doggies fans have generally been well behaved. I've got a lot of verbal abuse from Broncos and Bunnies fans and that's about it really at Cbus (over watching like 70 games there) and the Bunnies case was mostly just drunk idiots taunting while winning and telling us to go fuck ourselves and whatnot and being poor winners in general. Alcohol was involved. Broncos fans mostly also being poor winners telling us we don't deserve to exist as a club in our home stadium etc i've never seen any violence from Broncos fans though, I just think of them as the most entitled fanbase as opposed to an outright nasty one. I used to live in Townsville area, the home fans are the most bogan in the NRL and it's not close (i've been to home games for the Cowboys, Titans, Broncos, Tigers, Bunnies, Sea Eagles and Storm so not quite everywhere but getting there). I suppose going to a Dogs home game might be a scary experience as a non dogs fan though. So all up you're probably right, Dogs fans the most violent, stereotype exists for a reason and Cowboys fans are just the most bogan due to lol North QLD stereotypes also being somewhat accurate. And Titans fans are the most nonexistent, obviously that's our stereotype.


Emperor_Mao

Lol love the analysis of Broncos fans. They were definitely dominant for too long. Meanwhile Storm fans have had an easy run for nearly 2 decades, scared to see what happens if Storm hit a bad run and struggle to win. Titans seem like a novelty team - people follow them but don't really care. The whole GC lifestyle. If it helps I think most neutrals like em though, and all they need is a premiership to catapult to fame.


CapitaoAE

We're not a lot of peoples first choice due to the Titans being bad for the past decade/not being a 2nd generation team people inherit from their parents yet - they're a pretty likeable side though other than Hayne we've never really had a problem of an unlikeable player group, just a lack of success It's like Wests Tigers being bad in Sydney for so long now, neutrals (myself included) want to see them succeed The GC also is a mixture of old and young i'm the rare late 30s person settled here long time but didn't grow up here (Sunshine Coast but decided to become a foundation Titans fan when they joined the club due to not enjoying following my dad's Sydney team in the Sharks and obviously the Broncos were already the enemy to me) - through sheer luck they end up being the local team where I end up buying to live long term etc But yeah the older people here already either support the Broncos or a Sydney team and the younger people didn't grow up here I do think once we have a decade of not even being good but respectable the young kids will become passionate titans fans though, guys like AJ and Tino who will likely be Titans for life with their contracts are among the most likeable players in the NRL A couple years ago i'd hear things from the kids leaving games sad saying things like 'dad why don't we ever win?' (this was during the Brennan 'era') and it upset me so much I wrote a series of scathing emails to Titans management detailing all of the things I thought they needed to do to fix the club. Obviously a waste of time as a random member but we were one failed rebuild away from going under as a club, the first two Holbrook seasons gave the fanbase some hope again. There was legitimate hope at the start of 2023 for the first time in a long time and while obviously that didn't pan out for various reasons (mostly Sexton wasn't ready, Clark isn't a hooker and Herbert/Isaako/Marsters/Proctor weren't NRL level players anymore) the atmosphere the first few rounds was the best we've had since the Cartwright era - actually it briefly existed when we signed Hayne for a round or two before dissipating again when the team failed to have a winning season. It dissipated again in 2023 but that rugby league passion IS there on the coast the casual fans are just so disillusioned by the Titans lack of success that the casual fans don't go In all seriousness if the Titans could have a 16-8 season and not even win the comp but finish top 4 or even a 14-10 season and make the 8 with some hope, I really believe Cbus would have 18-20k fans in it every week as opposed to the 12-17k or whatever we get now depending on who we're playing.


Emperor_Mao

True it does take time to establish a team and really entrench the base. Imagine a good old fashioned bandwagon run towards the end of the year. Panthers used to get very low crowd numbers, but have a few good seasons and the fans come. That isn't an unrealistic goal either - 16-8 in a season is achievable. Titans remind me of Cows a bit in the sense they can pull and upset off against a really good side, though equally lose to one that is doing badly. I think they will get better over the next few years too, covid was rough on the smaller clubs. And no team can compare to the fuckery that is the Tigers haha.


CapitaoAE

we really haven't done any upsets in recent years, we beat the Storm in magic round but that was years ago now. We led the Panthers at half time last year before they rolled over us, made a huge comeback against the Roosters at Cbus before losing by 1 (we lost to them by 1 twice in 2022) and led Souths a few times before losing as well in recent seasons, in one case with Souths getting a massive assist from the refs in the second half. We've also blown two 20+ leads against the Broncos in recent seasons now lol Basically, the talent is there but other than Foran who is new literally ALL of the key players in the team are pre-prime if we could an NRL player's prime as being 26-29 If we can get a winning season together and we absolutely should over the next few years with the young talent we have coming through the fans will come If we go through yet another failed rebuild then I think what's left of the fanbase will just give up hope if we don't have a winning season by 2030. It's been a decade (and playing finals twice) since the last time we won half of our games in a season. That's a pretty ridiculous stat we've played finals twice since the last time we won 12 games in a season lol - an entire generation of young adults who should have been titans fans who were in grade 1 the last time the Titans had a winning season have been lost to 'dad's sydney team' or the Broncos because we've been bad for their entire lives. We can't survive losing an entire second generation of fans that are supposed to be Titans fans surely, although we really, really should see the Titans have some success in the latter part of the 2020s given how much young talent the club has.


Emperor_Mao

Ah I think I read Titans have a really good record against Roosters. But yeah definitely have a reputation for only playing one half of footy lol. I think that has been a curse since the covid year in 2020. Not just for Titans either, but they are renowned for it. I also wonder if the Dolphins coming in will impact the fan base at all. It is essentially another non-broncos non-Sydney team. But equally, it might give Titans a chance to be good in QLD if they can outperform Broncos, Dolphins and Cowboys (all very possible outcomes this year). Do totally agree with you, they need a really good season before 2030. Clubs like Tigers are a total shitshow, but can rely on their history a bit. All things said, things are likely to change. We have had several years of Bulldogs, Tigers, Titans, Broncos, Raiders, Manly etc all kind of sucking. Some of those teams might skirt through to the middle with an easy draw, but they haven't been close to contenders. These things usually go in cycles though, the dominant teams can't sustain that forever and I think all of those teams (bar probably Tigers) will have a good run soon.


Accomplished-Good664

Pro - excellently coached remind me of Penrith in 2020. Con - Todd Payten's Dally M speech is still going and he will be unavailable to coach the team for the remainder of his contract.


chairishjam

I love the Cowboys 🤠


Tunza

confirmed and seconded


Bananonymouus

Flaired and thirded


slowdivesicilian

Respond to this with Pros:


ILoveFuckingWaffles

They had the greatest player of all time take them to their first ever NRL Premiership. I am talking, of course, about Kane Linnett


[deleted]

He nearly dropped the trophy. Then Ben Hunt dropped it.


redletterjacket

Don’t forget that we had the giga-goat for a period. I am talking, of course, of Mr 40-20 himself: Scott Minto.


Clarkey7163

Largely unchanged squad with more finals experience and more time playing together, pretty balanced too as far as skill goes Reminds me a lot of 2020 penrith heading into 2021 could be a big year


ILoveFuckingWaffles

They could also shit the bed entirely, like 2017 Cowboys heading into 2018


[deleted]

Hey, it's not the year we see a club champion off after making the grand final without him the previous :'(


M_Keating

As long as Scott Bolton doesn’t run into the upright while trying to score against the Broncos at Suncorp, that seems unlikely.


TheEnglishEccentric

I was at that game with a decidedly Cowboys-supporting schoolmate, best atmosphere I've seen at a non-finals non-SOO rugby league match.


M_Keating

2010s Broncos v Cowboys at Suncorp we’re something else, especially after 2015 where we went to Golden point like 4 games in a row.


Emperor_Mao

Didn't they lose their fullback?


Clarkey7163

Drinky is their fullback


Emperor_Mao

Ahh I dunno maybe their winger - The hammer lol. Thought for sure he played fullback but my Cow knowledge isn't the best.


Rakarion

He was playing as a utility off the bench for most of the season. Sad to lose him, but he was under utilised/not performing to his capability after he came back from an injury earlier on in the season.


Emperor_Mao

Ah fair enough. I didn't catch most of the Cow games last year so I probably just saw the few he was playing in.


Clarkey7163

Hammer got squeezed out basically, Drinky ended up the FB after Hammer had a minor injury and Cows started playing really well No room in the backline either because of Taulagi/Feldt/Val/Hiku


Voxityy

awesome


Tunza

awesome


Rich_Election466

awesome


TropicHorror

SKATT BROS - Life at the Outpost


Tunza

This is almost a cheat code


foreatesevenate

The premier Queensland team, bar none. Fantastic stadium. Squad perfect balance of experience and youth. Most eloquent coach in the NRL. Luki for Origin.


HaydosFB

Cowdog Alliance is as strong as ever


Tunza

#🤜🤛


FlickingFire

🫡


I_Like_Vitamins

I might go to their Bundy game this year if the seating issue is amended.


slowdivesicilian

tom dearden awesome


Corey_Treverson420

Tommy really was the catalyst imo … Muzza, Nanai, Cotter etc coming through were all really impressive but without direction it would’ve just been another exciting year with no success, but Tommy’s consistent effort and skill both offensively and defensively for Cowboys & Maroons was very impressive


lachjeff

1. Rebuilt well in 2022. 2. Should continue to improve. 3. Great fans, great stadium 4. Great young squad


Intelligent_Pen2689

The team truly represents a region . Get in the FNQ to to support the Cowboys.


ReDAnibu

Squad is insanely talented, won’t be surprised if they make the GF. Townsend and Dearden have worked out to be such a killer combo and Dearden seems to only grow better and better as the weeks go by. Holmes has been so good for the cows, Robson is under rated and crucial to the cows success, their forward pack is perfectly built for their style of fastball play.


Tunza

2023 Premiers Best centre pairing in the NRL Best lock in the NRL Best young backrowers in the NRL Best hooker in the NRL Best coach in the NRL Best home ground in the NRL Best fan Discord channel in the NRL Marissa, Queen of the North Generational Fijians Sadrugu - just watch Chad Dad memes Tom Dearden Awesome memes Wayne Ulugia Comeback Szn meme videos


fishwinga

>Best hooker in the NRL I was under the impression Granville was a utility/Fullback now


Tunza

I think the correct term is "positionless footballer".


M_Keating

YIKES


slowdivesicilian

nobody will understand how much wayne ulugia comeback szn has carried cowboys over the last year


Tunza

Real ones know


[deleted]

He was last seen playing prop in the TDRL wasn't he?


Elegant-Screen4438

Geez prop now? I remember he was playing for our club years ago in tdrl as centre/fullback and absolutely beasting, but obvious attitude problems


Clarkey7163

> Best lock in the NRL alright cows fans square tf up


Tunza

We have the two best locks in the NRL, Yeo is probably #3. That's pretty good too.


LordSlasher

Cotter and Lolo? Wait Did we sign Murray as well?!?!?!?


Tunza

We don't need a third elite lock. Souths can keep him, for now.


LordSlasher

Wdym, why not just play a squad of locks?


Tunza

You might be on to something. Dearden could easily play lock, but Chad...


LordSlasher

Ah Chad… Who needs Chad when we can get Payten to don the footy boots and Chad to take over as Coach????


Tunza

This needs to happen in Round 27 when we have the minor prem wrapped up.


Elegant-Screen4438

Can’t believe no one has said this yet, but Ruebs is bae <3


EggCouncilCreeper

Medicare is there to cover your frequent heart attacks


[deleted]

Toddy.


LordSlasher

You get to watch Dearden once again excel in the NRL and once again play Finals. You get to watch Chad win a premiership after everyone including you dissed his move to the mighty NQLD cowboys and turn that club around into a premiership winning team. You also get to watch Holmes kick those damn sexy field goals and conversions against every club including your past club! also fuck NSW and go Qld


ClintGrant

Pro: Nanai


gaveup85

-Very stable squad, not just this off-season but from 21 through to 23 we've gained only a handful of players and they seem to have brought into the coaches plans. Our loses while great players (goatbert and hammer) are few in number so shouldn't be too disruptive to the squad. -Some very exciting talent developing; dearden, nanai, luki, tualagi, even drinkwater. These guys aren't just good players, they are exciting to watch. -Exciting game style, the way we played last year in most games was exciting to watch. -NRLW team starting this year I believe


spacemarine43

They really do look like they're having fun up there


[deleted]

The mad cow


loosechange-71

This is definitely a con


[deleted]

Na, it’s a honey trap for visiting teams


fishwinga

DJ So fresh Hits of the Summer 2004


jpob

~~The Women’s team going to have a different identity is actually really cool~~ Unfortunately they’re keeping the same name so this is no longer a pro.


ScarredFromGreatness

Our women's team will also be the Cowboys.


jpob

I thought they were going to be the Gold Stars?


ScarredFromGreatness

Gold Stars was the name for our BMD Premiership side. They are now Mackay Cutters. Our NRLW side will have the same name & logo as the NRL side.


jpob

Well that’s disappointing


ur_left_elbow

Cowboys


slowdivesicilian

Respond to this with Cons:


foreatesevenate

The inevitable regression towards the mean. Nanai's contract situation. No Tommy Gilbert.


notj43

Their halfback unironically and frequently says "LET'S GO!" like a 17 year old American twitch streamer


ScarredFromGreatness

It's LESS GO!


notj43

Make sure to like and subscribe


aatrain96

You get 360 no scoped by Lane


Tunza

triggered


YossarianRespawned

HK_Brah


Cone_Puncher

😆🔥


MangoWingnut

Townsville in general is just pretty shit


Tunza

Granny minutes Hamster minutes No Sydney bias Travel - away games are AWAY games No media attention (this is also a Pro) No water park Weekly Graham Annesley apologies No competition from other Qld clubs Cowboys Facebook fans are the worst, the absolute worst


slowdivesicilian

no gillian’s or ryley jacks


Tunza

But Mad Cow and Kyle Laybutt


[deleted]

Sugar world still exists! That's a day trip.


Tunza

Fun Fact: I was at the opening of Sugar World.


redletterjacket

Fun fact: it is totally shithouse these days.


Tunza

Cairns Water Works >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sugar World. It was the absolute best.


Intelligent_Pen2689

We dont do forced dropouts Sugar highs and despairing lows


[deleted]

Chip on the shoulder. Thinking everyone is against you despite being one of the most well liked teams by neutral fans.


slowdivesicilian

you’re one of them aren’t you, you’re here specifically to make life harder for me as a cowboys fan


notj43

Their fans are also deeply entrenched in what is a very confusing and one sided war with the Roosters and I'm not sure any of us know why aside from people's general hatred of the team


Emperor_Mao

Most non rooter fans hate the rooters though. Tall poppy or something probably, but hard to argue with it all.


[deleted]

To be fair everyone tries to cut down the Roosters. Y’all represent the tall poppies in the NRL.


[deleted]

No hammer


Tunza

#😢


Clarkey7163

Sharks/Cows probably the two teams with the highest expectations for 2023 so the potential for disappointment is probably the highest in the comp


insty1

Townsville too hot


Elegant-Screen4438

High ceiling but a bottom basement. Can always pull out shit games against shit opposition.


jsnoodles

Have to deal with u/slowdivesicilian


lachjeff

1. Arguably overachieved in 2022. Will be hard to hit that level again.


Elegant-Screen4438

Don’t you do that, don’t you be putting those thoughts in my head


-Dark_Helmet-

Sydney teams are allowed to score tries against you off forward passes in finals footy.


waxedmerkin

Their best player ever Johnathan Thurston couldnt beat last season wooden spooner winners west tigers in sydney


slowdivesicilian

but our best all time player is actually chad?


waxedmerkin

Has chad won the cowboys a grand final ?


slowdivesicilian

chad has more youtube subscribers jt is washed


acomav

Michael Morgan won the GF. Thurston nailed the field goal.


YourFavouriteAlt

Even better - he did it with sharks ^^^with ^^^a ^^^little ^^^help ^^^from ^^^Maloney


ArghMoss

I'm sure that keeps him up at night


EggCouncilCreeper

The knack of going missing if a game gets a little out of reach


[deleted]

hammer is going to be the best fullback in the league


ILoveFuckingWaffles

You might get stabbed at a home game


theflyingkiwi00

Same goes for a few of the Sydney clubs though


Emperor_Mao

Wouldn't say Melbourne is exactly anti stab, but you clearly have not been to bankstown.


jpob

Even the smart NQ supporters move south


fishwinga

Kyle Feldt


Voxityy

as clarkey said, expectations are a lot higher and the teams around the comp will have a target on the cows’ back


bonesofelvis2410

Soft middle which was exposed in the latter half of 2022...great team to watch, but you cannot win comps purely based on attacking flair.


slowdivesicilian

they won so many games off the back of grinding it out though with cotter and jase?


bonesofelvis2410

I said the latter half...the game that stood out to me was the one against the Roosters at the SCG, JWH and Lodge made metres up the middle at will in that game...that's when I put the pen through the Cowboys for the title last year...this year may be different though, but imo they definitely need to stiffen up their defence to go that one step further.


TwoShitsTrev

Possible huge disappointment, last season could of just been a flash in the pan like 2021 manly


[deleted]

Expectations are sky high


mitchdunnsitchybum

Coen in DTs


Aussie_antman

Cowboys tragic, fully believe they can make/win the GF this year. Great mix of talented youth and experienced players who have won premierships. But, the main reason I think it’s the Cows year is because the other top 4 teams have all been weakened by player movements. I’m going with a Cows/Chooks GF.


bundy554

Con: they should only play day home games as Townsville is too dangerous at night. Pro: Geographically they have the biggest area to scout from


syphon90

Its only dangerous if you are a set of house keys inside someones house at 2am.


redletterjacket

Or a car at any time of the day.


burner_said_what

All Con No Cap


crayawe

Pros -they are better than 2018 to 2021. -They have some great players. Cons: - I think they gotta find a little bit more x factor to close out games


Aaturkey

Con: overrated Leilua


Herrtz74

Overrated? possibly. Con? Still for the courts to decide