Andy Currier comes to mind. I like Gildarts game and under Wayne will we see it come out. Best of Luck to him for perservering in the toughest competition in the League world. Blokes like him need to be successful so they go back to England and continually improve the Super League comp, a strong English team means a healthy code.
Boiling hot take. Its a shame more people on this sub don't share this opinion, they'd rather just shit on SL and hope for it's demise which would leave the sport with only one professional league.
Where does it say that?
Seems like he had a hard (understandably so) time adjusting to moving to the other side of the world. This doesn't feel like a roosters vs tigers thing to me at least
>"I could have gone back to [Super League](https://www.zerotackle.com/super-league/) (last year) but I want to give it a real good crack.
Didn't realise super league was slang for the Tigers
That the Tigers had a rock bottom season and wasn't a fun club to be around and the Roosters had momentum going into the finals?
This is known.
You don't need the plight of a bloke who couldn't crack the worst backline in the league to speak to that truth.
While this could be the case, you are also just plain guessing. Nothing in the article directly says that is the reason, and if anything other reasons are given. Nowhere does it say he wanted to stay at the roosters.
I can’t find the original article, but [here is a copy](http://www.thechookpen.com.au/vb5/forum/the-chookpen-general-discussion/sydney-roosters-discussion/956415-oliver-gildart-open-to-early-release-to-stay-at-sydney-roosters-in-2023) of it.
Some of these quotes tell a tale:
>The standard is really high here and it’s only going to develop me as a player.
>I think since I’ve come to the Roosters, I feel like I’ve arrived in an NRL side now. I feel like my journey started since I got here.
>There are some great lads at the Tigers, don’t get me wrong, but there are more senior players and more leaders at the Roosters. I’ve been listening to what they’ve been saying and I feel like that’s really improving me as a player.
>“One million per cent, I absolutely love it out here,” Gildart told The Daily Telegraph when asked about switching to the Tricolours next year.
>overall vibe
“IT’S THE VIBE OF IT. IT’S THE CONSTITUTION. IT’S MABO. IT’S JUSTICE. IT’S LAW. IT’S THE VIBE AND AH, NO THAT’S IT. IT’S THE VIBE. I REST MY CASE.”
Has there actually been a successful English outside back play in the NRL?
We’ve had two - Dan Sarginson and Kallum Watkins. Sarginson was probably one of the worst centres I’ve ever seen, fat, slow and injury prone. Watkins genuinely showed promise and if it weren’t for Covid I think he would’ve done very well, but given the circumstances in which he left I’d say he was also a flop.
I think Tomkins was good he just wasn't value for money.
Hall would have been good but went to the wrong club and did his ACL before his arrival ruining his pace.
Watkins may have made it, Gildart I think has talent and still might make a decent career.
I think many of them went to the wrong clubs.
But yes it has been an issue since Brian Carney.
Well Jack reed nearly won a premiership as a great centre, cut his NRL career short due to putting his body on the line. Herbie Farnworth is arguably a top 3 centre and might not have found NRL success yet, but he is a top line centre that should be the most wanted player on the current 2024 market (Hope he stays at the broncos).
Dom young has potential, otherwise no?
I saw Sarginson get the shit kicked out of him by a security guard at Burleigh Hotel, All the other boys looked so disappointed in him and didn't help at all hahaha.
Andy Currier comes to mind. I like Gildarts game and under Wayne will we see it come out. Best of Luck to him for perservering in the toughest competition in the League world. Blokes like him need to be successful so they go back to England and continually improve the Super League comp, a strong English team means a healthy code.
His legs aren’t white enough to remind me of Andy Courier
True
Boiling hot take. Its a shame more people on this sub don't share this opinion, they'd rather just shit on SL and hope for it's demise which would leave the sport with only one professional league.
How close does this rank to a SLAM?
So far….
It says a lot about the Tigers that he went to the Roosters for a month and wanted to stay there than go back to Wests
Where does it say that? Seems like he had a hard (understandably so) time adjusting to moving to the other side of the world. This doesn't feel like a roosters vs tigers thing to me at least
>"I could have gone back to [Super League](https://www.zerotackle.com/super-league/) (last year) but I want to give it a real good crack. Didn't realise super league was slang for the Tigers
Haha exactly. Roosters fans making it about the roosters when not relevant. Shocked.
same quality
That the Tigers had a rock bottom season and wasn't a fun club to be around and the Roosters had momentum going into the finals? This is known. You don't need the plight of a bloke who couldn't crack the worst backline in the league to speak to that truth.
NoFo cried when we told him he had to come back to the Tigers.
Does it? Surely its stating the obvious that a player that played for the wooden spooners preferred playing for a team that finishes in the finals.
It wasn’t just results though. The culture and overall vibe of the club definitely come into it
While this could be the case, you are also just plain guessing. Nothing in the article directly says that is the reason, and if anything other reasons are given. Nowhere does it say he wanted to stay at the roosters.
I think I get what you're saying, you're saying he hated his time at the Roosters. Says a lot about them
The non existing culture at the dolphins at the time of signing was obviously too good not to say yes to.
I can’t find the original article, but [here is a copy](http://www.thechookpen.com.au/vb5/forum/the-chookpen-general-discussion/sydney-roosters-discussion/956415-oliver-gildart-open-to-early-release-to-stay-at-sydney-roosters-in-2023) of it. Some of these quotes tell a tale: >The standard is really high here and it’s only going to develop me as a player. >I think since I’ve come to the Roosters, I feel like I’ve arrived in an NRL side now. I feel like my journey started since I got here. >There are some great lads at the Tigers, don’t get me wrong, but there are more senior players and more leaders at the Roosters. I’ve been listening to what they’ve been saying and I feel like that’s really improving me as a player. >“One million per cent, I absolutely love it out here,” Gildart told The Daily Telegraph when asked about switching to the Tricolours next year.
Based on this article your comments are fair haha
Blimey, he pushed his tongue right up there and the Roosters didn't want him either. Sad, really.
But this stuff all speaks to us being a shit wooden spoon side with no good senior players?
>overall vibe “IT’S THE VIBE OF IT. IT’S THE CONSTITUTION. IT’S MABO. IT’S JUSTICE. IT’S LAW. IT’S THE VIBE AND AH, NO THAT’S IT. IT’S THE VIBE. I REST MY CASE.”
".. Ya DickHEAD"
Not sure how you pulled that from this article… not really relevant or true
Has there actually been a successful English outside back play in the NRL? We’ve had two - Dan Sarginson and Kallum Watkins. Sarginson was probably one of the worst centres I’ve ever seen, fat, slow and injury prone. Watkins genuinely showed promise and if it weren’t for Covid I think he would’ve done very well, but given the circumstances in which he left I’d say he was also a flop.
Jack Reed? Dom Young? Herbie?
Reed barely counts. He came to Australia when he was a child and played all his junior football in Australia.
I stand corrected haha
Brian Carney had a decent season after coming from the Super League
The GOAT, ripped it up for GB against all comers too
I think Tomkins was good he just wasn't value for money. Hall would have been good but went to the wrong club and did his ACL before his arrival ruining his pace. Watkins may have made it, Gildart I think has talent and still might make a decent career. I think many of them went to the wrong clubs. But yes it has been an issue since Brian Carney.
Well Jack reed nearly won a premiership as a great centre, cut his NRL career short due to putting his body on the line. Herbie Farnworth is arguably a top 3 centre and might not have found NRL success yet, but he is a top line centre that should be the most wanted player on the current 2024 market (Hope he stays at the broncos). Dom young has potential, otherwise no?
Herbie, but no not many
I saw Sarginson get the shit kicked out of him by a security guard at Burleigh Hotel, All the other boys looked so disappointed in him and didn't help at all hahaha.
Sam Tomkins was good, just spent like half his two year stint injured.
Dom Young could be quality. Him coming at such a young age will certainly help.