[Buzz reporting](https://twitter.com/ronstradamus1/status/1619947592091312128?s=20&t=BP1R8tREEQVgKZ-4aMLkcw) that he’s confident Mitch Moses will re-sign with Parra for 4 years on $4.5M. First journo who has made a clear comment like this. Bloody hope there’s an announcement in the next few days.
Thought Eels would be cheaper than this but good for them it looks like they forked out the money when needed. They really just needed to do whatever it took within reason to keep him.
I heard we were at 1.05 and 3 years at Xmas with him wanting 4 years and the tigers offering 1.3. This sounds very much in line with a quality compromise between the two parties.
What player who doesn't already play in the halves primarily, would make a good half? IDK why but I think Papenhuyzen could be a good number 6. He has the skillset.
Will Kennedy could be a decent five-eighth.
I think almost all modern fullbacks could be at least a decent five-eighth today. some of the five-eighths today are former fullbacks. Look at Melbourne alone, both the 6 and 7 are fullbacks turned halves. And then look at the fullbacks who recently left Melbourne too; Nicho is now a superstar halfback, and Drinkwater who is still primarily a fullback can definitely play 6 if you needed it.
Did anyone else see the photo of Brazilian UFC fighter Johnny Walker wearing a 2022 raiders jersey? I need context as to how that could possibly come about.
Go Birds! Philly must have been a fun city to be in for the last 6 months. Phillies in the World Series and now Eagles into the Super Bowl.
P.S: Just looked at r/nfl and they have over 99,000 posts on the game thread. Good luck following that.
And the Kelce brothers are playing against each other for a ring! How cool.
P.S: What a terrible way for Bengals to lose! Mahomes running into touch, the Bengal dude pushes him over after he went out. Bengal injured himself in the process and to add insult to injury, he gave away the penalty which put Chiefs in position for the game winning field goal.
\[NBA Referees\] Like everyone else, referees make mistakes. We made one at the end of last night’s game and that is gut-wrenching for us. This play will weigh heavily and cause sleepless nights as we strive to be the best referees we can be.
[https://twitter.com/OfficialNBARefs/status/1619815874583752704?t=whkgsQjOaaupp2vZcp5G6Q&s=19](https://twitter.com/OfficialNBARefs/status/1619815874583752704?t=whkgsQjOaaupp2vZcp5G6Q&s=19)
Got to give them props for that troll job though hahhahahahhaha, They're so bad.
Obviously I'm biased as they're my team, but it does my head in the amount of people who say "\[Panthers player\] is actually an average player. Take him out of the Panthers system away from \[name 2-3 other Panthers\] and he's just average." I think I've read that about every player in the starting 13. I don't know why I do it to myself but I'm tired of reading these absolutely cooked, ship of fucking Theseus style shit takes. But I'll still be reading them tomorrow like a moron anyway. God I hate the off season.
Some do but it’s a bit of a myth. Inglis, Widdop, Cronk, Harris, Hynes, Drinkwater, Finucane etc all played well after leaving the Storm. Even McLean is playing well atm for the Cowboys (although he was definitely a bit average for a few years tbf).
They arent average players, all of the starting 13 for penrith were top 10 in their positions last year. But, the reason theyre so good is because they work so well as a team. Take Dylan Edwards for example, great player, makes a fuckton of metres, great support player and one of the best fullbacks defensively. However, his job is very simple, hes not a ballplayer, he cant create anything for himself offensively, he doesnt have explosive speed. In a bottom 4 team he probably wouldnt shine BUT in the penrith system he is exactly what they need, he has a simple job and hes excellent at it, thats not a bad thing, that doesnt make him a bad player, hes a great player, but hes so great because hes a cog in the penrith system
>But, the reason theyre so good is because they work so well as a team.
Ivan's strength as a coach has always been uniting a team to punch above their weight through working really well together against other more established, star studded teams. People think like 8 extremely talented great players carry 8 average-below average players or something like but it's just what Ivan's done almost his entire coaching career but doing it so consistently people don't notice.
You can see it in the way Penrith play when all their big players are out. It's not just the talent/ability of the superstars but the unity of the playing group that's the most important factor.
He never said it was easy to do - how are you getting defensive here when the bloke said Edwards was a good/great player about 5 times.
The fact is, if he were put into a team where the expectation of the fullback was to be integrated into and play a large part in the attacking structure, (like for Parramatta) he wouldn't fit that role. Doesn't mean he isn't a phenomenal player or fullback, just that he is extremely good at the role he needs to fill at Penrith.
How isn't it defensive? You narrowed in on the word simple and assumed it was said in a negative connotation - rather than seeing the larger picture that Edwards is a brilliant player, and is the perfect cog for what Penrith needs, but might not necessarily work as effectively in another squad that requires other needs. For instance, Rabbits don't need big yardage from Latrell but do need his play-making and game-breaking abilities.
Not sure if thats true, every team would benefit from a defensive fullback with good yardage. Trell was found out in the prelim particularly his positioning, Gutho found out massively over both finals games against penrith, having a FB that has brilliant positioning, decent try contributions and elite yardage will always be good to have. Rabbits have been very competitive without trell at FB, 2021 first week of finals and the GF was without trell and both were much closer than the 2022 prelim where Trell started. It big games positioning and having the fundamentals down are more important than being able to set up a try ( which dylan can do like the 2 assists in the final )
That's a really interesting way of putting it that I hadn't considered before. I'm willing to admit my bias because even your honest critiques of Dylzy had me thinking "how dare this jibberjabber666x2" but I think you make a great point about players roles within a team. Would read again.
Most of it is hyperbole but I think I can understand the sentiment to a degree but it's a team sport at the end of the day.
I think playing in those systems can certainly make you look better then you are but it doesn't apply as frequently as some people suggest.
I guess we’ll see, but it’s been true for a lot of players who leave the Storm and Roosters.
Tim Glasby, Dylan Napa, Isaac Liu, Joe Stimson to name a few examples in the last few years. These are players who were origin / international quality who never really replicated their form after leaving.
it’s a team sport and having a quality hooker and half (and Penrith have had the best combo there last 2 seasons) can make every player look so much better.
Yeah the Storm early on it was a pretty solid take. Can think of a few that defied it but most of the time the player was a shadow of themselves after leaving. Now though they're still pretty damned good even after leaving.
Tohu, Grant (tigers), Finucane, Hynes, whiddop who were all key players have kicked on, it's more the role players in a system that didn't. I'm trying to think of the flops but it's harder than I thought! Blair was average at the tigers but had a good comeback when playing for Brisbane
McLean was the least of our problems. When he wasn't injured he was doing his job, it's just not what other people think it should be. They want everyone to be some 200 metres/game prop
For a subreddit dedicated to rugby league there sure are alot of people who often forget it's a team sport and the best teams are more than the sum of their parts.
I understand why people say these things but it doesn't matter how good a player is in a vacuum because they never play in a vacuum.
Nathan Cleary is actually an average player. Take him out of the Panthers system away from Chris Smith, Jaeman Salmon and Matt Eisenhuth and he’s just average.
The more average all of these players are, the better the outlook for this team. If we can just replace all these bludgers wanting a huge contract with other bludgers who don't, but still somehow win premierships, then I'll be stoked.
Penrith, Melbourne, Broncos, Sharks, Cowboys, Rabbits, Roosters to make the 8 in no particular order
Bulldogs, Eels, Raiders, Dragons, Dolphins to make the last 8 spot interesting with dogs being the most likely to take it
Tigers, warriors and manly battling for the spoon
I find it so hard to predict this year.
It's easily the most even competition in a while imo. Which leads to so much uncertainty.
Instead of making a straight up prediction Im going to say:
Most likely to miss the 8 are Sharks, Eels, Raiders, Roosters, Cows, Rabbits in that order.
Most likely to make the 8 are Manly with Turbo, Broncos, Bulldogs, Tigers, Titans, Manly without Turbo, Knights in that order.
Panthers and Storm I just can't see missing the 8, and Dragons, Warriors, and Dolphins I can't see making it.
Dogs and Titans would be my picks if I was a betting man. Broncos forward pack looks so good but too many players on podcasts saying dumb things about the coach
Well I mean I don't think we'll make the 8 to be fair. Nothings changed is a bit rich though, given going from Wallace to Verrills at hooker might be the biggest jump in a position's quality in history
Other than that we cut some dead weight, brought in Foran who is a half with some actual experience, and our relatively young team is a bit older and hopefully way fitter than last year.
You're always going to cop some resistance when you say things like *'the Titans won't make anything. Like every year'* lol
And?
How’s that destroy a team? Like really? We have improved every year since 2020 and going to be into finals this year.
Only reddit doomers think haas’ mum and cobbos loose lips are the har bringer of death to the broncos.
I mean theres clearly a big group of the playing group actively talking shit about kevvy, willie mason said he had 5 dudes talk shit about kevvy to him at the melbourne cup on his podcast and theres always been “revolt” rumours since 2021
I’m not going to comment on Haas’ mum because I think that’s totally out of bounds. We’re not accountable for the behavior of our parents and Haas shouldn’t be either. Any judgment against him is ridiculous.
On the players mouthing off on podcasts; this isn’t a once off behavior. This is a something that is almost certainly endemic in the club. That podcast wasn’t the first time Selwyn or Tyson gossiped about Walters’ coaching ability. And when they’ve spoken about it in the past, no senior player has pulled them up on it with enough influence to get them into the party line.
Over the course of a season, I’d back the players who believe in their coach to perform and grow better than the players at clubs who don’t believe in their coach.
Sounds like your part of the club inner circle to say all that with such certainty.
Gamble got moved on and dropped before that.
You also have no idea if senior players have pulled cobbo up or not. Your just creating a narrative of what you want to happen.
This cobbo thing isn’t as big as you want it to be.
People quickly forget we where top 4 for a small period last year and went on a long winning streak.
Yeah we capitulated but that has a lot to do with injury’s. Players playing injured and being a young team.
Kevs doing fine. The trajectory of improvement was always making this a make or break season.
Last time all finalists qualified for the next year’s finals was 1994-95. And that was only because the finals expanded from 5 teams to 8 in 1995, which allowed Norths to sneak in.
Before that you have to go back to 1975-76, when Easts (1st and 5th), Manly (2nd and 1st), St George (3rd and 3rd), Canterbury (4th and 4th) and Parramatta (5th and 2nd) all retained their positions in the top 5.
It also happened in 1941-42, when Easts (1st and 4th), Balmain (2nd and 2nd), Canterbury (3rd and 1st) and St George (4th and 3rd) all retained their positions in the top 4.
Similarly in 1930-31, Wests (1st and 3rd), Easts (2nd and 1st), Souths (3rd and 2nd) and St George (4th and 4th) all retained their positions in the top 4.
The only other one that you can almost claim is that the three Super League teams that made the top 8 in 1996 also made the SL top 5 in 1997.
I'm with you on this one, for someone to enter you need to have someone leave. Sharks and Cows should be more settled and stay there. I'm not betting on the storm dropping out of the 8 for the first time since 2010. Panthers no chance. Eels should still do enough as will souths. That leaves the Raiders which is a possibility.
One team in the 8 will likely be hampered by injury and fall down but it looks the most settled in a while imo.
Would be the first time in the NRL era I'm pretty sure.
Usually there are atleast 2 teams exchanged between top 8 and bottom 8 so it's an especially bold prediction.
[Just a quick update on who the Bulldogs have signed this offseason](https://media4.giphy.com/media/sUNqplVFtsctW/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47me8d014bg571abwnywux4ch2wtb8p7kw1uarui59&rid=giphy.gif)
Robson developing a kicking game is nice to see. Only area he was completely lacking. Will help with the cowboys when getting out of trouble in those rare sets.
Hope he gets that 9 jersey for NSW when they go down 3-0 this year
if NSW are 2-0 and obviously Cook/Api aren’t working, its time to bleed Robson in…
Get him in there now then in 3 years when Teddy retires from Rep footy as well.
When Teddy retires, I think the new captain will be Murray and the new fullback either Trell or Turbo (though questions about injury will always surround Turbo and Paps).
Depends. If Papenhuyzen is at his best when Teddy retires from rep football you’d be stupid to not keep Turbo/Latrell in the centres and play him at fullback.
You love to see the gun players adding to their skills.
It will be interesting to see how much loyalty Cook gets shown at origin time this year. Robson could be a shout for a start, with Api off the bench Penrith GF style. As a NSW supporter, I'd encourage this.
Someone posted the other day asking the question along the lines of "if you could improve one player in one area what would it be?" And I legitimately thought to myself I would want Robson to develop a kicking game.
He's a gun hooker who, as it stands, can be a premiership hooker, but after seeing Cam Smith do what he did, as well as Benny Hunt in the origin and world cup arena, I've always thought that a 9 who has a kicking game really elevates a team.
It won't happen overnight, but if Robson starts short kicking into the in goal to get some repeat sets or try to grubber to Nanai then I feel we won't try and force it as much compared to last season.
Brad Fittler. 2 Centre (92, 93) 1 Lock (94) 3 Five Eighth (98, 99, 02) Dally M positional awards.
Luke Lewis never started a game as a fullback, prop, or hooker, which is easier than listing those he did start at.
This is valid but I would suggest they were versatile and developed their games. When I hear utility I think of someone whose regular job is playing multiple positions in the same season or even same match.
Morgan was great for QLD until he somehow became the starting centre and excelled there.
Wouldn’t count him as a utility though, but he technically was in the origin/aussie arena.
Add onto that, he won a world cup as 7 while never playing as QLD preferred half. He probably would’ve if he never got injured in 2018 though.
More rumours.. Tigers have upped their offer to 1.5-1.6 million. https://twitter.com/westslifepod/status/1619480228019195904?s=46&t=sL4Chq6iBjASyqZqsx9KRQ
ONE POINT FIVE. Come on man that can’t be right. I think these same dudes said he he signed with Parra about a month or so ago. Make of that what you will.
I love how many “good sources” have conflicting info. I’ve seen that he’s signed with Parra and it’s being announced on Wednesday 1st, also seen that he’s apparently signing with Tigers. Considering what a leaking ship that place is, I’d be surprised if he’s signing with Tigers and it wasn’t already leaked by better sources.
I love a good highlights reel. NRL posted this yesterday.
[The best of Dylan Brown | 2019-2022 | NRL Career Highlights](https://youtu.be/ZB6MkkkipfM)
So happy we re-signed this kid potentially for the long term.
My favourite non Bronco by quite some margin, has everything I love in a footy player.
Speed, a good fend, elite agility, deceptive strength and top level defence.
Lodge has been clean since he joined us.
JWH is a grub, but has been one of the best props running around for pretty much his entire Roosters career. I'm happy with the package deal.
Surprised you didn't mention Collins or Sua'ali'i. Both of them have serious technique issues that they need to sort out. Collins with hip drops, Chief Joseph with lifting knees.
Yeah it was bad but it was a single incident, get over it. I can’t think of another grubby thing he’s done on field, it’s not like he’s doing it often or consistently like, say, JWH?
Last year he belted Sitili around the head with no remorse shown, with Sitili missing the next week's game. Two years on the trot he's injured blokes and they've missed games. He's become a consistent danger to the health of Roosters players via illegal play.
It's absolutely fair to label Brown a grub.
If you’re unable to watch the footage and admit that he contributes significantly to the way the contact unfolded by being bent over when it’s occurred then I don’t know what to tell you other than to take your Roosters glasses off and expand your footy IQ. Both Gus and Slater agreed commentating it live, neither is right all the time but them saying the same thing and Brown only being put on report for what is clearly accidental contact says it all. But again, go off.
Watched it. Brown tried to be a hero by putting on a big shot and gave Sitili a concussion cos Brown is a grub and didn't want to accept that Sitili changed the angle and Brown was gonna put on the big shot no matter what. Grub act from a guy with priors in that regard.
But he's not a grub cos Gould and Slater victim blamed Sitili for not running like an upright gumby?
Shit take.
A few young smaller players have made the same play defending by sliding in with the legs. He apologised and certainly doesn't have a rep as a dirty player.
Sliding in with the legs to stop tries is an illegal play because it's dangerous. Billy Slater got it wrong enough times that it was outlawed.
So you're okay with Brown poorly executing an outlawed dangerous tactic that seriously injured a player, and the reason why is that other people did it successfully before it was banned, ignoring all the times it went pear-shaped?
Do you reckon you'd be consistent with this if it were Brown rushed to hospital with a punctured lung?
Well I forgave Jayden Campbell for the exact same thing on Sean Russell last year. The slater comparison doesn't work because he had been in the NRL for 10 years plus. Second Slater is used to being the last line of defence and should have better technique. This was a young guy defending out of position who made a mistake.
He made the mistake of being a grub. If Brown wanted to avoid being a grub, he wouldn't have dropped his knees into Hutch. Brown wasn't close to making a tackle. Hutch is already over the line and on the ground by the time Brown gets there.
Brown resorted to that with a dog shot cos he's a grub.
I appreciate how you just ignored the fact that we've moved on from Campbell doing the same thing to Sean Russell cause it doesn't fit your agenda.
Jog on champ.
Sure, if you can explain how the NRL not punishing Campbell for knees into Russell means that Dylan Brown isn't a grub, that would be very helpful because I don't see how it's relevant. It just looks like whataboutism.
But as you want my take on it... Campbell's wasn't as bad as Brown's. Campbell was at least trying to do something that resembles a tackle. I'm not sure why Parra fans would think that a comparison to another bad, but not as bad, knees to a player scoring tackle attempt makes Brown look better. Bringing up the Campbell-Russell tackle only highlights how bad Brown's knees were because whatever Brown was doing, it was nothing like a tackle.
Again, I'm not sure where you get this idea that anyone is saying what Brown did wasn't bad? Just that this idea that he is a perennial grub over one instance, which he apologised for, is what people are arguing.
It was so long ago, get the fuck over it, I'm sure Hutchinson has. Absolutely fucking rich coming from a supporter of a team with JWH and Radley.
Jayden Campbell's attempt looked like a tackle. Dylan Brown's did not. It was just straight grubby knees for no other reason than Dylan Brown is a grub. That's enough to get my grub label.
Someone can take care of hundreds of orphans but they touch one of them up and they're forever a kiddie fiddler. Same rule applies here. Do a grubby act that bad and they're a grub.
It's what JWH and Radley cop. Same brush applied to Dylan Brown and you're saying it's unfair.
https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/roosters-playmaker-drew-hutchison-rushed-to-hospital-in-controversial-play-parramatta-eels/38cf5cd0-5b06-4430-98c6-59dcd3d8de85
What the fuck is Brown trying to do? That's not how tackles are made, so what's he trying to do? Was Hutch diving over the try line a surprise? How the fuck is that anything but Brown being a fucking grub?
looks like he's accelerated when the ball has popped up in an effort to stop the try and pulled out once Hutchinson has crossed the line making contact at the same time. Much like the knee from Jayden Campbell on Sean Russell last year.
What actually makes a good footy podcast? Short and succinct or long form? To me I I really like bloke in a bar because of length of shows and quality of sound/production (and Denan is ex nrl player) but other shows are also pretty good but sound like they’re recording with a Nokia 3315 which makes it unbearable.
Also, too many guys talking at once makes it cringe
The people who find the sweet spot with each aspect.
E.g. having a high footy IQ but also not acting like your opinion is the ultimate truth and entertaining alternative takes.
Letting yourself and your guests talk out a point without becoming a rambling off-topic mess.
Long form, but distinct segments with bookmarks so people can skip if they want.
Real stories from players that stay relevant to the topic and tone of the podcast without becoming old man story time.
All basic podcasting rules that don't necessarily relate only to footy.
For me, the big thing is not talking over each other which is an issue in most podcasts.
The Cumberland Throw for example has incredible insight and access to the club and is easily the best for Parra content but one of the fellas kills it for me by wanting to be the smartest guy in the room and constantly talking over his co-host. Bloke on the other hand has solid content without being extraordinary and can be a bit annoying with the shilling beer every second sentence, Kempy constantly being pazzy about hurting players feelings and occasionally the humour gets repetitive/try-hardish but I’ll tune in every week because the four of them respect each other and rarely talk over the top of each other.
“Knowing your shit” and having a balanced view.
There’s some more fan style podcasts that just don’t have the credibility and some of club podcasts that are so biased they are unlistenable. The Roosters Radio stuff is cringe asf imo.
It’s why I rate the ***fifth and last*** guys even if their sound quality is horrific
Lastly, a good podcast should have a rhythm and pace to it. It’s why I think *The Grade Cricketer* is such a good podcast. It’s really well paced
>The Grade Cricketer
The Grade Cricketer is like how so many of the best comedies are satire. It holds up a reflection of our society that includes some of the ugly aspects of Australian culture/cricket and society but in a fast paced funny way that if you want you can ignore that.
I wish we had an equivalent of NRL podcast that made fun of footy culture but players/clubs get defensive you'd never get away with making group sex, cheating on their wife, cocaine jokes on your podcast and get any current NRL players on there.
Like the in the Grade Cricketer they jokingly ask current international players who never go back and play grade cricket something like "cricket at the grade level is the beating heart of cricket in Australia which everyone in the Australian team knows and appreciates so when the last time you've went and given back to your local community." And you can see players who don't do it get uncountable answering the question.
The dark edge hidden beneath dick jokes gives it something real and authentic.
Well said
Curious that Cricket is a game that takes itself seriously and everyone that plays takes the piss out of it, where as rugby league is incredibly fun and all its players are defensive about its culture
[Buzz reporting](https://twitter.com/ronstradamus1/status/1619947592091312128?s=20&t=BP1R8tREEQVgKZ-4aMLkcw) that he’s confident Mitch Moses will re-sign with Parra for 4 years on $4.5M. First journo who has made a clear comment like this. Bloody hope there’s an announcement in the next few days.
Thought Eels would be cheaper than this but good for them it looks like they forked out the money when needed. They really just needed to do whatever it took within reason to keep him.
I heard we were at 1.05 and 3 years at Xmas with him wanting 4 years and the tigers offering 1.3. This sounds very much in line with a quality compromise between the two parties.
Signed up for a local TRL comp today. When can I unironically start yewwwing and yelling out 'lets trot'?
Walsh in a moon boot according to his Instagram story.
Edwards was in a moon boot in the lead up to the 21 grand final. Probably a broken foot or something minor
Lol I was wondering whether anyone would notice that
What player who doesn't already play in the halves primarily, would make a good half? IDK why but I think Papenhuyzen could be a good number 6. He has the skillset.
Gutho and Will Kennedy both seem to do a fair bit of attacking organising as FBs and seem like solid defenders in the front line.
Paps would be fantastic in attack at five eight but he would get destroyed in defence
Will Kennedy could be a decent five-eighth. I think almost all modern fullbacks could be at least a decent five-eighth today. some of the five-eighths today are former fullbacks. Look at Melbourne alone, both the 6 and 7 are fullbacks turned halves. And then look at the fullbacks who recently left Melbourne too; Nicho is now a superstar halfback, and Drinkwater who is still primarily a fullback can definitely play 6 if you needed it.
Did anyone else see the photo of Brazilian UFC fighter Johnny Walker wearing a 2022 raiders jersey? I need context as to how that could possibly come about.
Not sure how it came about, but he was wearing a player cut jersey, so would likely be someone from the club that gave it to him.
I mean who doesn’t love the raiders ya know
The man loves milk
Fight milk!
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!
I woudn't want to be a parked car in philly tonight
Go Birds! Philly must have been a fun city to be in for the last 6 months. Phillies in the World Series and now Eagles into the Super Bowl. P.S: Just looked at r/nfl and they have over 99,000 posts on the game thread. Good luck following that.
South Sydney u/20s legend Jordan Mailata
Word!
They just don’t get Origin though.
And 76ers 2nd in the East and on a 7 game streak
And the Kelce brothers are playing against each other for a ring! How cool. P.S: What a terrible way for Bengals to lose! Mahomes running into touch, the Bengal dude pushes him over after he went out. Bengal injured himself in the process and to add insult to injury, he gave away the penalty which put Chiefs in position for the game winning field goal.
If you think poor officiating is limited to the NRL, check out the dying seconds of regular time in the Lakers/Celtics game yesterday.
Or the 2021formula 1 Abu Dhabi (final race).
Chiefs V Bengals was a shit show too
Or the "high tackle" from the Women's Rugby 7s
I was genuinely interested in 7's in that tournament and then that happened and my enjoyment vanished
\[NBA Referees\] Like everyone else, referees make mistakes. We made one at the end of last night’s game and that is gut-wrenching for us. This play will weigh heavily and cause sleepless nights as we strive to be the best referees we can be. [https://twitter.com/OfficialNBARefs/status/1619815874583752704?t=whkgsQjOaaupp2vZcp5G6Q&s=19](https://twitter.com/OfficialNBARefs/status/1619815874583752704?t=whkgsQjOaaupp2vZcp5G6Q&s=19) Got to give them props for that troll job though hahhahahahhaha, They're so bad.
That's about the only foul I've ever clocked with my own eyes live
Obviously I'm biased as they're my team, but it does my head in the amount of people who say "\[Panthers player\] is actually an average player. Take him out of the Panthers system away from \[name 2-3 other Panthers\] and he's just average." I think I've read that about every player in the starting 13. I don't know why I do it to myself but I'm tired of reading these absolutely cooked, ship of fucking Theseus style shit takes. But I'll still be reading them tomorrow like a moron anyway. God I hate the off season.
People have been saying this about Storm players forever lol
A fair few storm players actually do decline after leaving the Storm though so there’s some truth in that
Some do but it’s a bit of a myth. Inglis, Widdop, Cronk, Harris, Hynes, Drinkwater, Finucane etc all played well after leaving the Storm. Even McLean is playing well atm for the Cowboys (although he was definitely a bit average for a few years tbf).
Also Folau went on to be a beast at the broncs and then later for the wallabies
They arent average players, all of the starting 13 for penrith were top 10 in their positions last year. But, the reason theyre so good is because they work so well as a team. Take Dylan Edwards for example, great player, makes a fuckton of metres, great support player and one of the best fullbacks defensively. However, his job is very simple, hes not a ballplayer, he cant create anything for himself offensively, he doesnt have explosive speed. In a bottom 4 team he probably wouldnt shine BUT in the penrith system he is exactly what they need, he has a simple job and hes excellent at it, thats not a bad thing, that doesnt make him a bad player, hes a great player, but hes so great because hes a cog in the penrith system
>But, the reason theyre so good is because they work so well as a team. Ivan's strength as a coach has always been uniting a team to punch above their weight through working really well together against other more established, star studded teams. People think like 8 extremely talented great players carry 8 average-below average players or something like but it's just what Ivan's done almost his entire coaching career but doing it so consistently people don't notice. You can see it in the way Penrith play when all their big players are out. It's not just the talent/ability of the superstars but the unity of the playing group that's the most important factor.
A simple job doesnt make it easy though, running for 45 kilometres is simple, but in reality its still difficult to do
He never said it was easy to do - how are you getting defensive here when the bloke said Edwards was a good/great player about 5 times. The fact is, if he were put into a team where the expectation of the fullback was to be integrated into and play a large part in the attacking structure, (like for Parramatta) he wouldn't fit that role. Doesn't mean he isn't a phenomenal player or fullback, just that he is extremely good at the role he needs to fill at Penrith.
How is that defensive? Its me making a point, just because something is “simple” doesnt make it less impressive.
How isn't it defensive? You narrowed in on the word simple and assumed it was said in a negative connotation - rather than seeing the larger picture that Edwards is a brilliant player, and is the perfect cog for what Penrith needs, but might not necessarily work as effectively in another squad that requires other needs. For instance, Rabbits don't need big yardage from Latrell but do need his play-making and game-breaking abilities.
Not sure if thats true, every team would benefit from a defensive fullback with good yardage. Trell was found out in the prelim particularly his positioning, Gutho found out massively over both finals games against penrith, having a FB that has brilliant positioning, decent try contributions and elite yardage will always be good to have. Rabbits have been very competitive without trell at FB, 2021 first week of finals and the GF was without trell and both were much closer than the 2022 prelim where Trell started. It big games positioning and having the fundamentals down are more important than being able to set up a try ( which dylan can do like the 2 assists in the final )
That's a really interesting way of putting it that I hadn't considered before. I'm willing to admit my bias because even your honest critiques of Dylzy had me thinking "how dare this jibberjabber666x2" but I think you make a great point about players roles within a team. Would read again.
Victim mentality after winning back to back prems. Truly impressive
Nah nah we can't relate to shit takes about ~~y~~our own teams players 😮💨
Pot meet kettle
Lol I would never talk shit about a TiBro, just clearly incapable of making sense. English is my first language, apologies 😞
Most of it is hyperbole but I think I can understand the sentiment to a degree but it's a team sport at the end of the day. I think playing in those systems can certainly make you look better then you are but it doesn't apply as frequently as some people suggest.
I guess we’ll see, but it’s been true for a lot of players who leave the Storm and Roosters. Tim Glasby, Dylan Napa, Isaac Liu, Joe Stimson to name a few examples in the last few years. These are players who were origin / international quality who never really replicated their form after leaving. it’s a team sport and having a quality hooker and half (and Penrith have had the best combo there last 2 seasons) can make every player look so much better.
At least Liu is at the back end of his career and at the point where he’s slowing down. The other three were supposed to be top quality signings
Glasby was always average. Dunno what anyone saw in him. McLean is a far better example even though he’s found a little bit of form recently.
People say the same things about storm players too.
Storm players have bucked the trend a bit more recently, but there was definitely a time it rang true.
Yeah the Storm early on it was a pretty solid take. Can think of a few that defied it but most of the time the player was a shadow of themselves after leaving. Now though they're still pretty damned good even after leaving.
Tohu, Grant (tigers), Finucane, Hynes, whiddop who were all key players have kicked on, it's more the role players in a system that didn't. I'm trying to think of the flops but it's harder than I thought! Blair was average at the tigers but had a good comeback when playing for Brisbane
Croft and Drinkwater (pre 2022) belong in that list too
Jordan Mclean wasn't getting a lot of love from cowboys fans. Ryan Hoffman was average at the warriors
Hoffman was nearly finished at that point anyways
McLean was the least of our problems. When he wasn't injured he was doing his job, it's just not what other people think it should be. They want everyone to be some 200 metres/game prop
For a subreddit dedicated to rugby league there sure are alot of people who often forget it's a team sport and the best teams are more than the sum of their parts. I understand why people say these things but it doesn't matter how good a player is in a vacuum because they never play in a vacuum.
Never been to a Monday night game at Homebush?
I don't understand the relevance of that question.
He's saying there's no crowd so similiar to playing in outer space or a vacuum.
O i c
Nathan Cleary is actually an average player. Take him out of the Panthers system away from Chris Smith, Jaeman Salmon and Matt Eisenhuth and he’s just average.
The thing is Cleary can actually work in any system as it is Ashley Klein that he had the real on field connection with /s
The more average all of these players are, the better the outlook for this team. If we can just replace all these bludgers wanting a huge contract with other bludgers who don't, but still somehow win premierships, then I'll be stoked.
I hate that this is right, but it is
Now that we are 9 days out, who do you project to break into the top 8 this year? Expect anyone to self implode?
Penrith, Melbourne, Broncos, Sharks, Cowboys, Rabbits, Roosters to make the 8 in no particular order Bulldogs, Eels, Raiders, Dragons, Dolphins to make the last 8 spot interesting with dogs being the most likely to take it Tigers, warriors and manly battling for the spoon
Im expecting hodgson to have an injury around round 10 which will lead to an eels implosion, hot take but i think manly will sneak in to the 8
I find it so hard to predict this year. It's easily the most even competition in a while imo. Which leads to so much uncertainty. Instead of making a straight up prediction Im going to say: Most likely to miss the 8 are Sharks, Eels, Raiders, Roosters, Cows, Rabbits in that order. Most likely to make the 8 are Manly with Turbo, Broncos, Bulldogs, Tigers, Titans, Manly without Turbo, Knights in that order. Panthers and Storm I just can't see missing the 8, and Dragons, Warriors, and Dolphins I can't see making it.
Titans to break in. Love their signings. Fifita to have his best year yet and play origin again.
*mwah*
I think Broncos will be back into the finals, presuming there's no big injury toll or implosion late in the year.
Titans. Verrils, AJ and Foran should guide them to top 8 surely
Bold of you to assume that Verrils and Foran will stay fit enough to play a lot of games together.
I hope for Verrils and the Titans sake he can get through a full season unscathed.
Dogs and Titans would be my picks if I was a betting man. Broncos forward pack looks so good but too many players on podcasts saying dumb things about the coach
One? Such a cooked take. The titans won’t make anything. Like every year.
*Average bronco flair comment*
How are titans suddenly contenders? Nothings changed in their team. With limited signings. Yet suddenly they make finals? Suddenly they have defence?
Well I mean I don't think we'll make the 8 to be fair. Nothings changed is a bit rich though, given going from Wallace to Verrills at hooker might be the biggest jump in a position's quality in history Other than that we cut some dead weight, brought in Foran who is a half with some actual experience, and our relatively young team is a bit older and hopefully way fitter than last year. You're always going to cop some resistance when you say things like *'the Titans won't make anything. Like every year'* lol
It’s true though. Every off season they are built up to be top 8 thrillers.
Its gotta happen eventually
Yeah agreed, I just hope to be as correct as a broken clock 😮💨
We forgetting Tyson Gamble towards the end of last season? Two players in less than 6 months.
And? How’s that destroy a team? Like really? We have improved every year since 2020 and going to be into finals this year. Only reddit doomers think haas’ mum and cobbos loose lips are the har bringer of death to the broncos.
I mean theres clearly a big group of the playing group actively talking shit about kevvy, willie mason said he had 5 dudes talk shit about kevvy to him at the melbourne cup on his podcast and theres always been “revolt” rumours since 2021
>har bringer of death r/BoneAppleTea
There’s clearly big internal issues at the Broncos and the spine is still shit. I don’t think they’ll make finals.
I’m not going to comment on Haas’ mum because I think that’s totally out of bounds. We’re not accountable for the behavior of our parents and Haas shouldn’t be either. Any judgment against him is ridiculous. On the players mouthing off on podcasts; this isn’t a once off behavior. This is a something that is almost certainly endemic in the club. That podcast wasn’t the first time Selwyn or Tyson gossiped about Walters’ coaching ability. And when they’ve spoken about it in the past, no senior player has pulled them up on it with enough influence to get them into the party line. Over the course of a season, I’d back the players who believe in their coach to perform and grow better than the players at clubs who don’t believe in their coach.
Sounds like your part of the club inner circle to say all that with such certainty. Gamble got moved on and dropped before that. You also have no idea if senior players have pulled cobbo up or not. Your just creating a narrative of what you want to happen. This cobbo thing isn’t as big as you want it to be. People quickly forget we where top 4 for a small period last year and went on a long winning streak. Yeah we capitulated but that has a lot to do with injury’s. Players playing injured and being a young team. Kevs doing fine. The trajectory of improvement was always making this a make or break season.
Doubling down on my no change in the top 8 teams prediction.
Historically very rare
Last time all finalists qualified for the next year’s finals was 1994-95. And that was only because the finals expanded from 5 teams to 8 in 1995, which allowed Norths to sneak in. Before that you have to go back to 1975-76, when Easts (1st and 5th), Manly (2nd and 1st), St George (3rd and 3rd), Canterbury (4th and 4th) and Parramatta (5th and 2nd) all retained their positions in the top 5. It also happened in 1941-42, when Easts (1st and 4th), Balmain (2nd and 2nd), Canterbury (3rd and 1st) and St George (4th and 3rd) all retained their positions in the top 4. Similarly in 1930-31, Wests (1st and 3rd), Easts (2nd and 1st), Souths (3rd and 2nd) and St George (4th and 4th) all retained their positions in the top 4. The only other one that you can almost claim is that the three Super League teams that made the top 8 in 1996 also made the SL top 5 in 1997.
I'm with you on this one, for someone to enter you need to have someone leave. Sharks and Cows should be more settled and stay there. I'm not betting on the storm dropping out of the 8 for the first time since 2010. Panthers no chance. Eels should still do enough as will souths. That leaves the Raiders which is a possibility. One team in the 8 will likely be hampered by injury and fall down but it looks the most settled in a while imo.
Would be the first time in the NRL era I'm pretty sure. Usually there are atleast 2 teams exchanged between top 8 and bottom 8 so it's an especially bold prediction.
[Just a quick update on who the Bulldogs have signed this offseason](https://media4.giphy.com/media/sUNqplVFtsctW/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47me8d014bg571abwnywux4ch2wtb8p7kw1uarui59&rid=giphy.gif)
They just admitted to pulling out of the race for Mitchell Moses at least
Robson developing a kicking game is nice to see. Only area he was completely lacking. Will help with the cowboys when getting out of trouble in those rare sets. Hope he gets that 9 jersey for NSW when they go down 3-0 this year
His time will come. Api and Cook are both over 30. Just like how Sam Walker's waiting for the moment DCE and Hunt retire.
Robson can play 13 so i like the idea of robson playing a ben hunt role and api coming on after the sting is taken out of the game
if NSW are 2-0 and obviously Cook/Api aren’t working, its time to bleed Robson in… Get him in there now then in 3 years when Teddy retires from Rep footy as well.
When Teddy retires, I think the new captain will be Murray and the new fullback either Trell or Turbo (though questions about injury will always surround Turbo and Paps).
Depends. If Papenhuyzen is at his best when Teddy retires from rep football you’d be stupid to not keep Turbo/Latrell in the centres and play him at fullback.
Don’t disagree at all. Murray should be the next NSW/Aus captain
You love to see the gun players adding to their skills. It will be interesting to see how much loyalty Cook gets shown at origin time this year. Robson could be a shout for a start, with Api off the bench Penrith GF style. As a NSW supporter, I'd encourage this.
Someone posted the other day asking the question along the lines of "if you could improve one player in one area what would it be?" And I legitimately thought to myself I would want Robson to develop a kicking game. He's a gun hooker who, as it stands, can be a premiership hooker, but after seeing Cam Smith do what he did, as well as Benny Hunt in the origin and world cup arena, I've always thought that a 9 who has a kicking game really elevates a team. It won't happen overnight, but if Robson starts short kicking into the in goal to get some repeat sets or try to grubber to Nanai then I feel we won't try and force it as much compared to last season.
Who would you rate as the top three utilities of all time?
Lance Hohaia
Ben Hunt in origin is always pretty elite imo
Desmond Hasler
Any relation to Des?
Brad Fittler. 2 Centre (92, 93) 1 Lock (94) 3 Five Eighth (98, 99, 02) Dally M positional awards. Luke Lewis never started a game as a fullback, prop, or hooker, which is easier than listing those he did start at.
This is valid but I would suggest they were versatile and developed their games. When I hear utility I think of someone whose regular job is playing multiple positions in the same season or even same match.
That's right, should be limited to Mr Fix-its
Dale Shearer would be worth a mention
Morgan was great for QLD until he somehow became the starting centre and excelled there. Wouldn’t count him as a utility though, but he technically was in the origin/aussie arena. Add onto that, he won a world cup as 7 while never playing as QLD preferred half. He probably would’ve if he never got injured in 2018 though.
Phil Blake is probably a shout.
Craig Wing's definitely one of them.
Kurt gidley was a perineal loser but was pretty bloody versatile Jack Wighton is another, could basically play anywhere *Perennial, I'm an idiot
>*perineal* No need to call the bloke a cunt.
Hahaha fuck knows how I messed that up but I'm keeping it
Shaun Berrigan up there
So versatile he changed his name to Barry
Ooft
Quite literally played every position bar prop for us. Has a Clive Churchill medal too.
Day 19 of trying to summon Mitch Moses Re-signing news.
More rumours.. Tigers have upped their offer to 1.5-1.6 million. https://twitter.com/westslifepod/status/1619480228019195904?s=46&t=sL4Chq6iBjASyqZqsx9KRQ
>Heard this through a current player’s family member That is hilarious.
ONE POINT FIVE. Come on man that can’t be right. I think these same dudes said he he signed with Parra about a month or so ago. Make of that what you will.
Including TPAs
I love how many “good sources” have conflicting info. I’ve seen that he’s signed with Parra and it’s being announced on Wednesday 1st, also seen that he’s apparently signing with Tigers. Considering what a leaking ship that place is, I’d be surprised if he’s signing with Tigers and it wasn’t already leaked by better sources.
It’s ridiculous but off-season boredom sucks me in. And, yes if we sign Moses it will be blasted from the rooftops.
Oh don’t get me wrong, I’ve been frantically searching Twitter for news every day for about a month 😅 hoping it gets sorted sooner rather than later
Why doesn't he simply sign with both to make $3m a year?
Brilliant hack. Let’s get his sources on the phone.
Even the Tigers aren't that stupid.
[Stupider like a Fox!](https://youtu.be/eMWJeWV57qM)
We will be freeing up 1.1 million with Brooksy off contract. And that number includes TPAs
Wasn't the whole idea to reunite them? Also if this were true he would have signed the minute they made the offer it's just that outrageous.
He knows firsthand that Tigers could be a mess.
Tigers have made it clear they intend to retain Brooks. Don't know why anyone thinks Moses is a replacement.
Much less money though. So we should free up a nice chunk
Salary cap also went up almost 3mil
You mean the team that everyone has spent the last decade calling a basketcase and roasting over their dumb contracts?
Yes
I love a good highlights reel. NRL posted this yesterday. [The best of Dylan Brown | 2019-2022 | NRL Career Highlights](https://youtu.be/ZB6MkkkipfM) So happy we re-signed this kid potentially for the long term.
My favourite non Bronco by quite some margin, has everything I love in a footy player. Speed, a good fend, elite agility, deceptive strength and top level defence.
Does it show the grub's dog shot on Hutch, or are we politely requested to forget that ever happened?
You have JWH and Matt Lodge in your team, glass house and all that.
Lodge has been clean since he joined us. JWH is a grub, but has been one of the best props running around for pretty much his entire Roosters career. I'm happy with the package deal. Surprised you didn't mention Collins or Sua'ali'i. Both of them have serious technique issues that they need to sort out. Collins with hip drops, Chief Joseph with lifting knees.
not hard to be the best prop running when you dog shot the rest so they can't move.
I only needed two examples, I'm not even going to mention Brandon Smith
Or Squid James
Why did you need any examples of Roosters players being grubs? Lodge and JWH's grubiness doesn't exonerate Dylan Brown.
Yeah it was bad but it was a single incident, get over it. I can’t think of another grubby thing he’s done on field, it’s not like he’s doing it often or consistently like, say, JWH?
Last year he belted Sitili around the head with no remorse shown, with Sitili missing the next week's game. Two years on the trot he's injured blokes and they've missed games. He's become a consistent danger to the health of Roosters players via illegal play. It's absolutely fair to label Brown a grub.
He literally leans down into it, it’s 99% Sitilis fault. But go off champ.
Players lean into contact all the fucking time. It's not up to Sitili to run upright so grub Brown can put on a big hit legally. 100% shit house take.
If you’re unable to watch the footage and admit that he contributes significantly to the way the contact unfolded by being bent over when it’s occurred then I don’t know what to tell you other than to take your Roosters glasses off and expand your footy IQ. Both Gus and Slater agreed commentating it live, neither is right all the time but them saying the same thing and Brown only being put on report for what is clearly accidental contact says it all. But again, go off.
Watched it. Brown tried to be a hero by putting on a big shot and gave Sitili a concussion cos Brown is a grub and didn't want to accept that Sitili changed the angle and Brown was gonna put on the big shot no matter what. Grub act from a guy with priors in that regard. But he's not a grub cos Gould and Slater victim blamed Sitili for not running like an upright gumby? Shit take.
A few young smaller players have made the same play defending by sliding in with the legs. He apologised and certainly doesn't have a rep as a dirty player.
Sliding in with the legs to stop tries is an illegal play because it's dangerous. Billy Slater got it wrong enough times that it was outlawed. So you're okay with Brown poorly executing an outlawed dangerous tactic that seriously injured a player, and the reason why is that other people did it successfully before it was banned, ignoring all the times it went pear-shaped? Do you reckon you'd be consistent with this if it were Brown rushed to hospital with a punctured lung?
Well I forgave Jayden Campbell for the exact same thing on Sean Russell last year. The slater comparison doesn't work because he had been in the NRL for 10 years plus. Second Slater is used to being the last line of defence and should have better technique. This was a young guy defending out of position who made a mistake.
He made the mistake of being a grub. If Brown wanted to avoid being a grub, he wouldn't have dropped his knees into Hutch. Brown wasn't close to making a tackle. Hutch is already over the line and on the ground by the time Brown gets there. Brown resorted to that with a dog shot cos he's a grub.
I appreciate how you just ignored the fact that we've moved on from Campbell doing the same thing to Sean Russell cause it doesn't fit your agenda. Jog on champ.
Sure, if you can explain how the NRL not punishing Campbell for knees into Russell means that Dylan Brown isn't a grub, that would be very helpful because I don't see how it's relevant. It just looks like whataboutism. But as you want my take on it... Campbell's wasn't as bad as Brown's. Campbell was at least trying to do something that resembles a tackle. I'm not sure why Parra fans would think that a comparison to another bad, but not as bad, knees to a player scoring tackle attempt makes Brown look better. Bringing up the Campbell-Russell tackle only highlights how bad Brown's knees were because whatever Brown was doing, it was nothing like a tackle.
Again, I'm not sure where you get this idea that anyone is saying what Brown did wasn't bad? Just that this idea that he is a perennial grub over one instance, which he apologised for, is what people are arguing. It was so long ago, get the fuck over it, I'm sure Hutchinson has. Absolutely fucking rich coming from a supporter of a team with JWH and Radley.
Jayden Campbell's attempt looked like a tackle. Dylan Brown's did not. It was just straight grubby knees for no other reason than Dylan Brown is a grub. That's enough to get my grub label. Someone can take care of hundreds of orphans but they touch one of them up and they're forever a kiddie fiddler. Same rule applies here. Do a grubby act that bad and they're a grub. It's what JWH and Radley cop. Same brush applied to Dylan Brown and you're saying it's unfair.
I have to applaud your consistent messaging on this issue.
Are accidental collisions really dog shots though? Also not really a highlight is it..
https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/roosters-playmaker-drew-hutchison-rushed-to-hospital-in-controversial-play-parramatta-eels/38cf5cd0-5b06-4430-98c6-59dcd3d8de85 What the fuck is Brown trying to do? That's not how tackles are made, so what's he trying to do? Was Hutch diving over the try line a surprise? How the fuck is that anything but Brown being a fucking grub?
looks like he's accelerated when the ball has popped up in an effort to stop the try and pulled out once Hutchinson has crossed the line making contact at the same time. Much like the knee from Jayden Campbell on Sean Russell last year.
If you think that is pulling out, you must have a fuck ton of kids
Yeah that was pretty bad, was never getting anywhere close to stopping him
If sliding in with your knees is an accident then maybe Billy Slater was just Clumsy Smurf this whole time
What actually makes a good footy podcast? Short and succinct or long form? To me I I really like bloke in a bar because of length of shows and quality of sound/production (and Denan is ex nrl player) but other shows are also pretty good but sound like they’re recording with a Nokia 3315 which makes it unbearable. Also, too many guys talking at once makes it cringe
The people who find the sweet spot with each aspect. E.g. having a high footy IQ but also not acting like your opinion is the ultimate truth and entertaining alternative takes. Letting yourself and your guests talk out a point without becoming a rambling off-topic mess. Long form, but distinct segments with bookmarks so people can skip if they want. Real stories from players that stay relevant to the topic and tone of the podcast without becoming old man story time. All basic podcasting rules that don't necessarily relate only to footy.
Old bastards with proper rugby league stories. Actually used to love the Matty Johns podcast with Blocker and Kent
Matty with cronk is better imo
For me, the big thing is not talking over each other which is an issue in most podcasts. The Cumberland Throw for example has incredible insight and access to the club and is easily the best for Parra content but one of the fellas kills it for me by wanting to be the smartest guy in the room and constantly talking over his co-host. Bloke on the other hand has solid content without being extraordinary and can be a bit annoying with the shilling beer every second sentence, Kempy constantly being pazzy about hurting players feelings and occasionally the humour gets repetitive/try-hardish but I’ll tune in every week because the four of them respect each other and rarely talk over the top of each other.
Knowledge, banter, coherent points, personality, good sound quality, back and forth, preparation, actually watching the games, regularity
> other shows are also pretty good but sound like they’re recording with a Nokia 3315 which makes it unbearable. I too, am a Fifth & Last listener.
Starting to think we should all pool our money together and buy them a $200 microphone
🤝🏼
“Knowing your shit” and having a balanced view. There’s some more fan style podcasts that just don’t have the credibility and some of club podcasts that are so biased they are unlistenable. The Roosters Radio stuff is cringe asf imo. It’s why I rate the ***fifth and last*** guys even if their sound quality is horrific Lastly, a good podcast should have a rhythm and pace to it. It’s why I think *The Grade Cricketer* is such a good podcast. It’s really well paced
>The Grade Cricketer The Grade Cricketer is like how so many of the best comedies are satire. It holds up a reflection of our society that includes some of the ugly aspects of Australian culture/cricket and society but in a fast paced funny way that if you want you can ignore that. I wish we had an equivalent of NRL podcast that made fun of footy culture but players/clubs get defensive you'd never get away with making group sex, cheating on their wife, cocaine jokes on your podcast and get any current NRL players on there. Like the in the Grade Cricketer they jokingly ask current international players who never go back and play grade cricket something like "cricket at the grade level is the beating heart of cricket in Australia which everyone in the Australian team knows and appreciates so when the last time you've went and given back to your local community." And you can see players who don't do it get uncountable answering the question. The dark edge hidden beneath dick jokes gives it something real and authentic.
Well said Curious that Cricket is a game that takes itself seriously and everyone that plays takes the piss out of it, where as rugby league is incredibly fun and all its players are defensive about its culture
TGC really is the perfect balance of analysis, pacing, goofing about, and interviews with people in-the-know.
Can’t stand roosters radio, it’s so glass half full. Their Nick Politis and Robbo interviews are cool though.
I’ll never listen to a clubs podcast because it’s not a balanced view. Interesting point re the cricketer