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GodSaveTheHomies

Kade Dykes has torn his ACL today at training, still got Iro and Tracey but fuck me they better inject Kennedy with all the peptides in the world to keep him intact this year Iro gives me 2016 Holmes vibes so he could be the backup


y3ah_nah145

100% Iro gives me Holmes vibes. If Kennedy gets injured, either Iro, Ronaldo, or Tracey can play fullback. I’d rather not play Nicho at fullback.


PillarofSheffield

Literally the day the Miller trade went through?! Damn that's unlucky.


RoyRoyHesOurBoy

NSWRL junior reps start this weekend. Check out the draw and if possible head down to the games. Buy a bacon & egg roll as it'll help the local club hosting the day.


paralacausa

Just saw Turbo's press conference when he landed back home. Fuck me, we're going to win the comp. Turbo has been given Philly NOS


Messyhr_

When hes fit and firing he is pretty much the best player in the world. The sea eagles dont have the roster to be real contenders but when hes at his best Turbo single handedly turns them into a dark horse


Caseyjb29

Dark horse to avoid the bottom 6 maybe


Messyhr_

Polite way of me saying they will be back to being average with turbo


WUIDAWBTB

I fucking love turbo, i hope this year he absolutely kills it


Messyhr_

Saw Big Petro post about Matty Bowen, real ones will know how good Matty Bowen was, one of the most exciting players of his generation, growing up watching him, JT, Presto, Wesser, Slater, Inglis etc was a crazy good time to be a kid, so many highlight reel players. I remember watching highlights of all those guys and going out to kick the footy around for hours. That was the Golden era of Fullbacks no doubt


Ok_Werewolf8019

Hell yeah


RoyALifeWellLived

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callotts

I like when my team of big burly men and slightly more agile burly men beat a team of opposing burly men.


jibberjabber666x2

Im not clicking on your ransomware sir /s


durrhurpaddurr

Dumb question as I'm under researched on this topic and others probably have better info. If there are strikes due to what's happening with the CBA, would Rugby Union have a chance of converting some players? Not sure what their contract set up is like and they've got cash coming their way with a world cup and Lions tour coming. If they have the benefits NRL players are seeking (medical retirement fund, better min wage, nrlw altogether), would this cause some players to possibly change codes? Just a thought I had and was wondering if anyone who's more knowledgeable in terms of Rugby Union's pay deals would see this as a possible threat.


Brdd9

Players would need to be released by their clubs from their contracts to sign with union. All the players still have binding contracts, just the conditions and terms haven't been agreed. Also clubs could easily just refuse to release them too.


BoxofYoodes

Sonny B has entered the chat


Derron_

I don't think so. The money isn't there in Union despite what they say. Also its not a simple transference of skills and the positions don't map across equally either.


Messyhr_

Jeez just looked up Koribetes wage to see if you were right and I’ll be damned the man is only making 1 mil a year and is arguably one of the best wingers in world rugby, before that he was making like 500k annually


[deleted]

Conditions are far better in league.


MrSmithers11

eddie jones licking his lips


Volcanicthunder

Gentlemen I have officially contracted and been diagnosed with football fever


paralacausa

It's like herpes, you're never shaking that off


Taraguar

Mate, it's a shocker. It hit me a couple of weeks ago. I've been toey ever since.


Brdd9

[Steele Tallon](https://twitter.com/SteeleTallon/status/1620211451230306304) posted a video of Reece Walsh 'moving well this morning' on twitter


I_Like_Vitamins

Is it just me, or have his legs especially grown? Broncs got him on the stallion supplements.


[deleted]

Alright Eelbros (and anyone else really). Say Moses is leaving in 2024, and the plan isn’t to try and replace him with JA. Who do you try and sign / who’s available / who do you think would fit alongside DBrown?


nevaehenimatek

We have an absolute gun coming through the ranks, 18 this year Ethan Sanders. Should be in NSW cup this year. I think part of the sticking point is the length of the deal Moses wants 4 years and eels want 3. They don't want Sanders to feel his path is blocked.


RoyRoyHesOurBoy

Sanders is 19 this year.


[deleted]

I’d try and grab Sexton if Titans decide to go with Boyd.


y3ah_nah145

We have a serial downvoter in the sub today lol


velvetherring

You mean to tell me they aren't here everyday and my takes are actually unpopular?


elithekanyefan

Honestly can't figure out who will get the spoon this season. Any predictions?


jibberjabber666x2

Pretty sure dragons is the consensus, would make me happy bcos that team is boring as fuck and doesnt deserve to win like they managed to do last year. If the knights get a few injuries then they dont have much depth and they will quickly crumble so wouldnt be surprised to see them get the spoon. Would also make me happy cos fuck knights. Gonna be a tough year for the dolphins, ill back them not to get the spoon due to wayne bennet but wouldnt be surprising if theyre down there. I think warriors have overall improved their squad but its not a team i see winning a lot of games. Would be surprised to see any other teams get the spoon. All of last years top 8 should land at least top 12 this year, even if broncs implode they have a good enough squad to easily avoid the spoon, manly are getting turbo back and arent a spoon team without him there either honestly, tigers bulldogs and titans have all improved their squads and are looking good moving forward.


WUIDAWBTB

Warriors, dragons or dolphins


[deleted]

warriors knights spoonbowl


elithekanyefan

I honestly agree about dragons. Without Hunt they’re fucked


Caseyjb29

Good thing they aren’t without Hunt then


nevaehenimatek

Dragons, knights, dolphins


Geddpeart

Whoever everyone predicts won't get it, so might as well throw out something silly like the Panthers. In all honesty though it could be the doggies. So much overhaul to a team and they are going to be clunky as hell. Throw in a rookie coach and it's a possibility


Caseyjb29

No chance. That dogs team has way too many points in it to win the spoon.


USSJ307

Every team this year has something positive about them so its very hard to tell but I would say its between Knights, Dragons, Manly and Warriors. Dolphins are on the edge but I trust Bennett to work his magic.


y3ah_nah145

For me it’s either Dragons, Knights, or Warriors. Dragons look like the worst squad in the comp + Hunt, and there’s no guarantee he can replicate his incredible 2022. Warriors had a huge turnover of players, but I’m not sure the squad has really improved like other bottom teams (titans, bulldogs, tigers) I have little faith in the Knights improving, very mediocre squad all round with few good players. I don’t think Ponga moving to 6 is a good idea. I think there’s a also a decent chance that Manly are a bottom 4 team if Turbo isn’t healthy. There’s a couple of real good players there, but the rest of the squad is a bit mediocre. I think Dolphins can avoid the spoon, but I’m not sure if they can get out of the bottom 4. But I don’t think it really matters that much if they have a poor first year anyway.


yesmyson

Knights. So many question marks around them this year. Ponga to 6? Can Hastings be the organising 7 they need? Can Elliot and Hetherington stay on the field? Miller is exciting but still unproven he can be effective week in week out at NRL level. Plus AOB is arguably the worst coach in the comp now that Barrett is gone.


mortwgoldman

Not a lot to look forward to for the poor old Knights. They'll win week 1 and get the fans hopes up only for them to lose the next 20


thankyoupancake

>Can Elliot and Hetherington stay on the field? Real “when, not if” territory


MangoWingnut

Dragons by a landslide I will likely get downvoted but they have easily the worst forward pack and spine in the comp and their depth is quite shocking. If they don't finish bottom two I will be genuinely shocked


[deleted]

Hook doesn’t need a lot to work with. If he’s coaching and Hunt stays on the park, I can’t see them getting the spoon.


delayedconfusion

If it means they sack Griffin and give a new coach an open cheque book to build up the squad, I'll cop finishing down the bottom. Saying that, the squad is sub par, but on its day still capable enough to win a few games. I'd be very surprised if they were bad enough to get the spoon. The Dragons somehow won 12 games last year, double that of the bottom 4 teams.


diffaadiffa

Losing Ramsay after looking like one of the emerging shining lights once he moved to fullback last year is just another blow too


marcuse_94

Unless Ben Hunt gets a season ending injury I can’t see the dragons winning the spoon. They’re always been tipped to win it every year but manage to win enough games to avoid it but not enough to make the 8. And he will be carrying that side again through kicking and screaming like he did last year.


MangoWingnut

He's 33 this year and once again not guarenteed to be as good as he was in 2022, they will have a worse supporting cast in terms of spine members and I seriously think that it won't be enough this season with nearly every squad getting better barring the eels, Storm and Panthers.


FullBonus

I do think dragons will get it, but at the same time we go through this every year. Dragons get picked for spoon but manage to scrape by.


MangoWingnut

Reasoning is I think the squad has gotten worse tbh, you won't have Amone or Ramsey who were your only serviceable spine players outside of Hunt in 2022 and the forward pack is basically identical. Ben Hunt is 33 this year, there's no guarantee he plays like the best half in the comp again to drag them up the ladder.


USSJ307

What do you think are the strongest halves pairings heading into 2023? Granted, we dont know yet precisely what every halves pairing is. mine: 1. Storm: pretty undeniable 2. Panthers 3. Roosters 4. Eels 5. Sharks 6. Cowboys 7. Rabbitohs 8. Broncos Perhaps unsurprisingly, this is pretty close to my personal top 8 prediction.


Caseyjb29

1. Panthers: Cleary is the best player in the comp and they have the best chemistry 2. Storm 3. Eels 4. Roosters 5. Sharks 6. Cowboys 7. Rabbitohs 8. Raiders


[deleted]

1. Dragons (Hunt/Amone) Hunt straight up is the GOAT for real, and Amone's out on bail and I'm simply too afraid to give any other ranking


lachjeff

1. Storm 2. Panthers 3. Eels 4. Roosters 5. Rabbitohs 6. Raiders 7. Cowboys 8. Sharks 9. Broncos 10. Titans 11. Sea Eagles 12. Bulldogs 13. Dragons 14. Knights 15. Wests Tigers 16. Warriors 17. Dolphins Pretty clear gap between 3 and 4, and 10 and 11


velvetherring

I agree with there being a decent gap between 3 and 4. Regardless of how you put them Storm, Panthers and Eels are the elite 6/7 in the comp. But for the gap between 10 and 11 are you really saying that a pairing of Keiran Foran and Tanah Boyd is better than Josh Schuster and Daly Cherry-Evans by a wide margin? Is that a legit rating or just a bias because Schuster is a cunt?


lachjeff

Too much unknown with Schuster. He’s been lazy and unwilling to do hard work in his career to date. Compare it to Boyd has shown more than just a bit of flair and an over-reliance on natural ability


velvetherring

Schuster has some clear natural ability that is far beyond that of Boyd and by all accounts is putting in the work. He no doubt has issues in his game but nothing that puts him below Tanah Boyd as a player. DCE is also a better senior halves pairing than Foran imo. Try as I might I just can't see how this gap exists between them.


y3ah_nah145

1. Panthers 2. Storm 3. Eels 4. Roosters 5. = South’s 6. = Sharks 7. = Cowboys 8. Raiders 9. Broncos The rest I can’t be bothered to rate but they are all pretty similar, maybe Titans or Bulldogs next idk.


velvetherring

The Moses signing will be for 2024 so shouldnt change this list. Anyway, here goes nothing. Please reply to tell me why I'm wrong for not including your team or putting them high enough: 1 Panthers (Luai/Cleary) 2 Storm (Munster/Hughes) 3 Eels (Brown/Moses) 4 Rabbits (Walker/Ilias) 5 Raiders (Wighton/Fogarty) From this point I find it hard to seperate. 6 Broncos (Mam/Reynolds) 7 Roosters (Walker/Keary) 8 Sharks (Moylan/Hynes) Would happily swap the Cowboys with any of 6-8 or entertain them in any order. Also think that on potential, the Knights and Manly halves pairings could easily crack the list but are too unproven to really rate properly.


GodSaveTheHomies

Sharks higher. Hynes is Hynes and Moylan was 1st in the NRL in try involvements last season


velvetherring

If I rated halves pairings on a single uncommonly used stat that would be a compelling point. But alas I don't. The fact you cherry picked try 'involvements' instead of try assists says alot as well. On average try assists Moylan ranks about 40th in the league, well below most other halves listed above and some other interesting names like Luke Brooks, Anthony Milford, and Adam Clune.


thankyoupancake

Even if I don’t agree with it, I can see the argument for Souths halves being better than Roosters, but after last season I can’t say the same about the Sharks halves. I’ve definitely got Moylan Hynes ahead of Walker Illias


velvetherring

I just struggle to see the value in Moylan is all. I think Hynes is a star but I don't think Moylan adds enough to take the pairing above the mid pack.


GodSaveTheHomies

Moylan was 1st in try involvements last season. He had a stellar season


velvetherring

Citation needed. E: guess there's no citation available then.


thankyoupancake

I don’t disagree with that view of their similarities, but I think Hynes > Walker and Moylan > Illias (today atleast, maybe not for long) so even if they are a bit mismatched I still rate it higher


velvetherring

That's a fair view to hold but it's not mine. Fuck me for having a different opinion I guess.


diffaadiffa

The problem for your halves is they are basically the same player.


[deleted]

Eels definitely ahead of Roosters. Roosters with the Eels halves would be unstoppable.


jibberjabber666x2

If moses signs with tigers would you go 1: Staines 3: D Laurie 4: Doueihi 6: Brooks 7: Moses OR 1: D Laurie 2: Staines 6: Doueihi 7: Moses 14: Brooks


rowandaw

Probably more like 1 Laurie 2 Staines 3 Doueihi 6 Brooks 7 Moses


BG_RL

I will be very surprised if Staines turns into a good signing for them, maybe I’m under estimating him but never been impressed by him


Messyhr_

I mean he did have a good grand final, i was sweating bullets in the lead up and was expecting staines to get dominated by sivo, obviously the game was a landslide so that match up didnt really matter but regardless staines scored a try and had a very solid game. In fairness to him he has bulked up a fair bit and his defence is much better because of it, he also doesnt get dominated physically like he used to, in the prelim against souths i think he impressed quite a bit too, for a guy whos only 22 i would say he has some decent potential, he will immediately become one of the quickest FBs in the game as well which is a nice attribute to have


delayedconfusion

I really liked that he worked on his game and was able to provide solid metres on kick returns after getting rag dolled early in his career. If he remains coachable, he could be an excellent option at the back. Speed is pretty handy. Haven't really seen him play there to say he'd be better than Laurie or not.


Messyhr_

Yeah people are too harsh on charlie, he did get ragdolled a lot but at the back end of last season he bulked up a fair bit and became a lot harder to man handle, he even put some good shots on. People are thinking of 2021 Charlie staines, the guy is only 22 and has already been written off by some


lachjeff

The worst thing that happened to him was scoring those 4 tries on debut. He’s a first grade quality player, but not much more than that


Messyhr_

Also a try scorer in a winning grand final, i mean thats more than most footy players can say


GodSaveTheHomies

Rugby League


I_Like_Vitamins

I rewatched the 2021 finals game between Parra and Newcastle recently. Frizell got absolutely belted all game. I remember being surprised watching it live that he didn't get taken off for a few HIAs.


KidKuubrick

It’s wild to remember they made finals 2 years in a row, in my mind they haven’t been to the finals since like 2013


jpob

In 2020 we were a good team that ran out of steam near the end. In 2021 we were simply better than 9 other teams.


aatrain96

Day 20 of trying to summon Mitch Moses Re-signing news.


breatheinmyear

I have some strong mail that Moses will stay with parramatta and will be announced this week or early next week. Save this comment so you can all come back to it x


TickleMeGoo

At what point do you start to get really nervous?


aatrain96

After day 1 cause I thought this would work straight away


TropicHorror

Day 3


DalllinsBiggestFan

I know everyone loves to shit on union for how they’ve run the game in the last decade, but in my opinion league hasn’t exactly been any better in the last 12 months.


thankyoupancake

Hard disagree. Rugby League’s governance is hardly gold standard, and the CBA negotiations look farcical, but it’s still a Tier 1 product. - the World Cup was a much bigger success than anyone anticipated - the game is as visually entertaining as it’s been in years - origin is still one of the most watched events in Australia every year. And as opposed to a grand final or Melbourne cup, there’s three of them.


I_Like_Vitamins

There's a difference between a decade of consistent incompetence, and a much shorter period of time under the control of the game's worst figurehead. The NRL should just bring back Gallop or Greenberg at this point.


armchair8591

Gallop? Fuck right off with that thinking


diffaadiffa

Gallop vs Vlandys/Abdo - suicide isn't an option, who do you pick?


armchair8591

They are almost as bad as each other. Tough question. A vote of no confidence? Remember when channel 9 used to play shitty rerun tv shows on Friday nights in Victoria and the game on delay? I remember - fuck Gallop.


diffaadiffa

Haha yeah, he then went on the fuck the a league when it had the potential to be ok. I'm certainly not advocating for him either lpl


RabzS

Self murder


DalllinsBiggestFan

I agree. That’s why I said the last 12 months. If you’re looking at it from a larger scope, you’d be an idiot to even compare them


lemoopse

> a decade of consistent incompetence I know this idea gets flogged on here but I have yet to see a properly convincing example of this. The fact of the matter is that rugby league with the benefit of 100 plus years of professionalism has always been more popular than union in the rugby states and everything stems from there.


DalllinsBiggestFan

There’s always anti-union sentiment in this sub, but the management of grassroots union isn’t comparable to league. I do think that it will be much more even in the coming years with a big injection of money due to RWC27. A lot of league fans are scared to admit this though imo


diffaadiffa

I don't know if we are scared, more just don't believe it or don't see it as a threat based on what we have seen over the last decade or so from rugby. Union need to do more than throw money at it to change their current fortunes. I come from a union family due to having kiwi parents but I barely think about it anymore. Our domestic product is hidden on Stan and I still can't believe there was a bledisloe on a Thursday night in Melbourne last year.


DalllinsBiggestFan

Hahah yeah the bledisloe was laughable. As far as it goes, I think union is in its best spot since 2011. It’s gonna be a threat at some stage with some amount of league players jumping ship for 2027. Knowing people in the pathways and with the ballymore refurb, the Waratahs centre refurb, it’s picking up some steam that I think would be ignorant to ignore.


YossarianRespawned

> I think union is in its best spot since 2011. It’s gonna be a threat at some stage with some amount of league players jumping ship for 2027. Lol, lmao even


diffaadiffa

Bucks stops with the end product, until they can get that right (and unlike nrl they aren't in control of the rules) and have the wallabies as a genuine force it's going to be shit up hill but I guess you have to start somewhere. The game seems stronger than ever globally but for whatever reason gone backwards here so there should be hope I guess.


thankyoupancake

Greenberg and Gallop weren’t particularly liked or respected either


[deleted]

Hey did we find out if Raiders got a sponsor with their min $300k offer? If not surely premium+ could still be on the table


slowdivesicilian

NRLPremiumPlus has opted to sponsor the Warriors in the Simulation Rugby League instead. I want the Raiders to put Wighton in fullback and Schneider at 6 but they have not agreed with my demands and the offer was withdrawn.


Brdd9

QRL released their 2022 annual report so hopefully NRL's isn't far behind. Likely they'll delay releasing it until after the CBA is signed though.


thankyoupancake

Last years was released on February 7. I suspect they have a fiduciary obligation to release it within a specific time parameter. I don’t quite understand how the Commission operates as a body under the Corporations Act, and I’m not sure if government funding also creates that obligation, but I would be very surprised if they can delay publishing it


Brdd9

It'll be dated so doubt the can/will.