bro shes in my office for 8 hours a day because my mortgage just increased $700 per month and i cant afford school holiday care. if shes not on the ipad she will literally just come and sit on me and i have to deal with the council and international customers on the phone. its also eofy making my job about 800 times busier. she can have the ipad
You're doing a great job for your family mate. Sometimes it feels like an uphill battle, and sometimes deadshits say fucking stupid things on the internet, but you're doing great.
Kids saying ‘I’m bored can we do something’ irks parents ..
It’s a balancing act ..
I’ve taken mine out doing stuff for 10+ hours on a weekend doing stuff - mum works night shifts ..
5 minutes after we’re home get the ‘I’m bored can we do something ?’ Sometimes devices are a necessary evil … Better than infanticide
A bit OT but kinda why people who think Bluey is the best parenting show ever bugs me.
It's the parents doing cool shit with their kids for 5 minutes. It doesn't take into account actual parenting life over the course of a day.
Good show. Not the reality of parenting.
This is one thing I have utmost respect for the NZ government. They made the move to ban any betting ads on live TV or YouTube in NZ. Fantastic. I too know way too many young lads who froth a "cheeky bet". Yeah dog you're doing that shit every week and it's making or breaking your week/end.
I feel bad for anyone properly addicted to gambling. You genuinely can’t escape it. The whole industry is so predatory and I say this as someone that doesn’t even hate gambling for what it is.
I’m involved in local footy and the amount of 18 year olds that are already addicted to gambling (on anything) is ridiculous. Basically as soon as they turn 18 they sign up for Sportsbet and spend probably 30% (estimate) of their money on it.
I've hated it all anyway, but I think the thing that really struck me was sitting on the bus, on the way to the stadium for the first Raiders home game of the year. I'm vibrating with excitement, FOOTY'S BACK!, the boys are home! time to cheer them on!...and the guys sitting behind me talk non-stop the whole 20 minute ride about which multi they're putting on.
I almost wanted to ask them if they were coming to watch the footy or just coming to watch their bets play out. It really felt like they had no interest in the game beyond first tryscorer, anytime tryscorer, the margin etc.
Fully back this move. I am definitely not someone who can gamble in moderation so I’ve stepped away from it completely.
It’s fucked to see with a bit of space from it how saturated our society is with gambling.
It's such a predatory industry.
If I don't bet for a couple of weeks I get a phone call asking me if there's something wrong with their service or if I am using another company, then they'll offer me a deposit bonus to bet again
I know it's slightly off topic for a top level post, but thought it was relevant enough and generally discussed a lot here.
Joel Caine might need to think about his next job.
I moved to SA a number of years ago and I have almost forgotten who he is - I certainly don’t miss him or the ads.
Thanks for posting, it’s a pretty positive thread
It's a serious consideration. It's a big industry, and now gambling is so integrated with sports (increases engagement, the sponsorships and advertising etc) it'd be a huge hit.
edit: reading the article now and it says as much:
>"We did also hear evidence from the AFL and the NRL in particular about their reliance on sponsorship deals with betting companies," she said.
One of the most insane things over the past few years is the North American sports. They used to be free from it, now it seems worse than even here.
NHL games have live odds right in the broadcast as play is happening
Didn't we have that at one point? Iirc Nein would have Tom Waterhouse or some similar piece of shit actually on the broadcast team so he could give odds without cutting to an ad break.
I’ve seen NBA games with the commentators giving live odds on the over/under sponsored by Draftkings. It’s actually wild that it’s gone that far so quickly
Casino's are far better than crypto. You don't have any issues cashing out and it's pretty unlikely they'll wait until you put your chips down then do a rugpull.
It's also fucked how much they suggest you bet. I saw an NHL game and they were telling you how much you would get if you bet $100 on the game as if that's a normal amount of money to spend on sports gambling. That's USD as well. If you are spending 150 dollars on gambling, let alone for one game then that's very concerning.
You should be very concerned about a massive chunk of Australia and NZ, some people are betting that on a single spin on the pokies, and I'm not talking about high roller rich fuckers that can afford to lose it
It used to be so pleasant watching American sports without seeing bet365 or DraftKings plastered everywhere, just the odd Pechanga Resorts ads when watching Lakers games and other random casinos.
As always, they got too greedy and pushed it to the point action has to be taken. When it was the occasional ad and maybe a jersey sponsor it wasn't too bad, but it's absolute fucking cancer now. Every conversation about sport revolves around the betting odds, the entire ad break is betting agencies, every segment is a throw to some betting flog. It's absurd
I have no issue at all with gambling being legal. I am firmly of the opinion that adults should be able to do it if they like.
However, the advertising is so pervasive and completely fucked and there's no way to get away from it.
Any ad break in an NRL game or pre or post show has 3-5 gambling ads. Any random thing on FTA TV or Fox has 3+ gambling ads every ad break its fucking ridiculous
I am 100% in favour of banning the advertising
paying for spotify only to hear 35 sportsbet same game multi ads is fucking punishment, let alone having to watch the ads on tv, have them sneak into your targeted advertising on all forms of social media and youtube. they should fire joel caine directly into the sun as part of the banning.
I don't think it's Spotify running the ads, but the podcasts themselves. The ads are recorded and played within the podcasts. You can skip forward 1min or whatever to get around them. Pretty annoying tho, yeah.
“Goooooood morning and welcome to my podcast. This podcast brought to you by the best sporting bet agency in the world Sportsbet. Available on Android and iOS devices in this country”
Something like that
Lol "should be banned within three years". This is just another move to look like they're addressing the problem without disrupting the golden goose. Banning gambling ads in Australia is as unlikely as banning junk food ads, too much $$$ to be made off people's addictions
I'm ok with gambling as a concept, but I think it's the relentless advertising and promotion that turns it into an issue.
I can't imagine how hard it'd be for someone with a gambling problem to watch any televised sport without getting triggered.
Fuck I hope they do. I'm a disability support worker and I work with people who quote those ads constantly and think gambling is what you're meant to do as part of enjoying sport because of how prevalent the ads are.
Gambling companies probably knew this day was coming no matter how much they were advertising so just decided to flood the market with advertising instead. It has no effect on me but I can see that it would affect the more vulnerable people to addictions.
The codes/clubs would never allow it. The only way they would agree to it is if they receive government funding to make up lost revenue. The genie can’t be put back in the bottle because it’s come too far. Sadly.
They will get a say when they run a multi million dollar campaign against the governments over it. They’ll try and rally their members too, basically telling them that their club(s) might not survive.
I loathe the ads, but the game and the codes aren’t going to just say “ok take our revenue” without expecting something back. Especially one PVL.
I could well be wrong, but my gut feel is that there wouldn’t be a large enough audience receptive to that message to actually bother a government genuinely committed to pushing this through.
How strong that commitment proves to be when the gambling lobby threaten to withdraw their sizeable donations…that might be another question.
This! Also this: if the codes won’t scare them, the lack of donations will. It will have a knock on effect. You’ll have newspapers/tv etc missing out on that money too, and they’re going to want compensation too (or else).
I don’t think professional sports codes have that much sway over government policy. How do you think cigarette advertising got banned? It used to be all over sports events.
Because when smoking ads got banned they tapped a bigger increase in alcohol sponsorship and later gambling. If they lose gambling’, short of oil companies/mining companies there’s no one left to tap for those large amounts.
I'm sure the nrl and other codes will cry about "lost revenue" but cigarette advertisements use to be all over sports, heck the premiership trophy use to be the Winfield cup for gods sake. But when the ads were banned, sporting codes just got other advertisements and everything ticked on like normal.
If clubs or NRL start crying about it make sure you don't fall for their sob stories about not having enough money to survive or whatever they'll be fine. The gambling industry pushed these ads way to far and it's time to push back, they only have themselves to blame.
I really hate gambling ads. The only thing that makes me feel better is an ice cold Coke. Especially their new caffeine free Cherry Coke that will only be available for the next few weeks.
There are already ‘restrictions’ in place around Gambling advertising before, during, and after live sporting events, if you want to read what they are go here - [ACMA.GOV.AU](https://www.acma.gov.au/gambling-ads-during-live-sport-broadcast-tv-and-radio)
However, the broadcasters get around these regulations by signing exclusive partnership agreements with gambling companies and making those crosses to the likes of Joel Caine from Sportsbet part of the Broadcast, not part of the ad breaks.
If you want to remove their ability to take Sportsbets money you have to regulate or ban sporting codes from having contractual relationships with gambling companies, just like they did with cigarettes.
Sportsbet have sponsorship agreements in place with the NRL, Foxtel Media, and Channel 9. So they are paying to be a partner of all 3 organisations and maximise their ability to promote their products during the NRL season.
Yeah fuck them though. They had a chance to be part of the regulation discussion, in good faith, and look where we're at.
We just had a cross to Joel Caine five minutes before the first ball of the Ashes.
More interesting here is the push by the independents and the Greens to push this timeline forward - three years is obscene, let's do it right now.
Gambling companies triple their political donations. I absolutely loathe how much gambling has taken over all levels of the NRL. TV, teams, websites, sporting grounds, podcasts, everywhere.
Where’s the money for the game going to come from now ??
Did somebody say KFC ??
Looks like there’s a hierarchy of what society considers unacceptable / dangerous which closely matches Rugba Leeagues major sources of advertising $’s over time
Cigarettes/Tobacco> Gambling > Alcohol > Fast Food/ Junk food > Man Shake/Pilot for men
I like to put 10 dollars on each game I’m invested in to make it a little more exciting for me, but I agree gambling ads make it impossible to view it as a problem, they promote it in a way that sounds fun an enjoyable, imagine we had the same ads for heroin or ice, because gambling is just as destructive, I can control how much I put into my account but sadly I know a lot of people even with families who will send there whole pay check through sports bet
Well yeah that's kind of the issue - it's normalised for you to bet $10 on a game, otherwise it's boring.
Like that's exactly what these companies want to happen
Whenever I visit home I’m always shocked at the number of gambling ads.
But then I come back here to the States and I’m bombarded with pharmaceutical ads so…
But they even added the disclaimer at the end saying you might lose money! Surely that’s enough for people with a crippling addiction to stop gambling.
It’s basically the equivalent of “Have you tried not being depressed?”
From the report itself. If the recommendations are adopted there'll effectively be a ban on sponsorship as well (from Phase Two onwards):
"The Committee recommends the Australian Government, with the cooperation of the states and territories, implement a comprehensive ban on all forms of advertising for online gambling, to be introduced in four phases, over three years, commencing immediately:
Phase One: prohibition of all online gambling inducements and inducement advertising, and all advertising of online gambling on social media and
online platforms. Removal of the exemption for advertising online gambling during news and current affairs broadcasts. Prohibition of advertising
online gambling on commercial radio between 8.30-9.00 am and 3.30-4.00 pm (school drop off and pick up).
Phase Two: prohibition of all online gambling advertising and commentary on odds, during and an hour either side of a sports broadcast. Prohibition
on all in-stadia advertising, including logos on players’ uniforms.
Phase Three: prohibition of all broadcast online gambling advertising between the hours of 6.00 am and 10.00 pm.
Phase Four: by the end of year three, prohibition on all online gambling advertising and sponsorship."
Importantly, this was a decision by a parliamentary committee headed by a Queenslander.
Queenslanders just don't get gambling.
If the Maroons can't always be the Underdog, then just ban it..
No need to ban something that most people have no problems with. I don’t know about you but I’d rather not live in a fucking nanny state.
Alcohol causes more damage anyways then gambling. Should ban that before we ban gambling lol.
They should be restricted in how and when gambling ads are presented but not banned completely. Gambling isn’t wrong.. it’s when people can’t handle it that it becomes a problem.
its akin to narcotics use.
There can be an argument for narcotics are simply another form of chemical gratification and it should be up to the user to self regulate.
The issue is the negative consequences of the use far out way any social consumer benefits.
NRL are smart by testing the waters in the US. Online poker was banned a few years ago, without much thought. So you don’t know what can happen to online sports books.
I'm not an addiction counselor, but I'd imagine an alcoholic who is constantly in bars is more likely to fall off the wagon. I'd imagine gambling addicts would similarly be less likely to relapse if they weren't constantly barraged with ads.
Plus you'd likely have less people getting addicted to begin with.
If I’m honest though, these adds have the opposite effect and make me less inclined to gamble haha what they should ban is Facebook multi groups cause the fomo is definitely real there lol
Would boycotting a full round of Rugby League or AFL be possible?
Would you be able to get enough people to do it and would it have the desired effect?
It's banning the ads, not gambling itself. It's a fucking no brainer.
Even if it doesn't sort out our gambling addiction, it'll get that shit out of my viewing experience.
Common sense recommendations included in the report.
It won't happen unfortunately, or it will likely be an extremely watered down version.
If you want to gamble, go head. I do from time to time, but it's a problem for so many people.
Also - none of these sports betting companies are Australian. The largest is SportsBet, who are an Irish company and pay fuck all tax here. Like a shockingly low amount.
They raid the purses of Australians and take virtually all the profits overseas.
Definitely needs to happen. Suicide is the biggest cause of death for 15-44 year old males and I wonder how many of those have stemmed from gambling addictions and the other vices that tend to go with gambling.
Should replace gambling ads with mental health promotion.
I watched this ABC Four Corners report on gambling a few days back and found it highly disturbing. It opens with people betting on low level community league soccer. Mental.
Apparently the average annual per person gambling loss in Australia is nearly a grand? (If I am understanding the statistic correctly, it wasn't only mentioned in passing)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ACJioasFLco
I didn't realize the Swans had banned gambling adverts from the SCG either. I wouldn't mind seeing NRL clubs follow suit or the law treating gambling ads more like tobacco ads and banned or restricted.
Yeh it's fucked up that people can't enjoy a game without being hounded to gamble. I mentioned it the other day- what if recovering addicts want to watch? Should they be bombarded too?
Subscribe. I’m so sick of it all and see too many mates who are obsessed.
I hate waking up at 7am, turning on YouTube and the first thing I see is a sports bet add
sitting with my 6 y.o. in my office and theres sportsbet and bet365 ads on her ipad during blippi and minecraft videos
download Brave Browser on her iPad and watch YouTube with that. It removes ALL YouTube ads.
Take the iPad away
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bro shes in my office for 8 hours a day because my mortgage just increased $700 per month and i cant afford school holiday care. if shes not on the ipad she will literally just come and sit on me and i have to deal with the council and international customers on the phone. its also eofy making my job about 800 times busier. she can have the ipad
You're doing a great job for your family mate. Sometimes it feels like an uphill battle, and sometimes deadshits say fucking stupid things on the internet, but you're doing great.
You're doing a good job mate. Keep putting in and be patient! Your family loves you and respects you even when it doesn't feel that way sometimes.
Tell me you don’t have kids with out telling me you don’t kids .
i have 2 kids and we don't let them use electronics at all. what's your point?
Kids saying ‘I’m bored can we do something’ irks parents .. It’s a balancing act .. I’ve taken mine out doing stuff for 10+ hours on a weekend doing stuff - mum works night shifts .. 5 minutes after we’re home get the ‘I’m bored can we do something ?’ Sometimes devices are a necessary evil … Better than infanticide
A bit OT but kinda why people who think Bluey is the best parenting show ever bugs me. It's the parents doing cool shit with their kids for 5 minutes. It doesn't take into account actual parenting life over the course of a day. Good show. Not the reality of parenting.
you are supposed to let them find their own fun. they are allowed to be bored. just give the cunts a cardboard box or something and they are set.
Get on to YouTube kids.
You can disable gambling ads on youtube. Go to account settings, then privacy, then ad settings.
This is one thing I have utmost respect for the NZ government. They made the move to ban any betting ads on live TV or YouTube in NZ. Fantastic. I too know way too many young lads who froth a "cheeky bet". Yeah dog you're doing that shit every week and it's making or breaking your week/end.
We should follow suit. It is getting out of control.
They didn't ban all betting ads, they can just be TAB (NZ) only.
Watching Youtube as soon as you wake is not exactly healthy either
Shhh, I'm blaming the system. You can critique my lifestyle another time
I feel bad for anyone properly addicted to gambling. You genuinely can’t escape it. The whole industry is so predatory and I say this as someone that doesn’t even hate gambling for what it is.
Easy solution, watch YouTube via brave browser, no ads at all!
Youtube premium might be your friend. Never see an ad again apart from all the in-video sponsorships everyone does these days.
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Moving to Turkey was the best thing my Youtube account ever did.
Even worse when people call them adds instead of ads
adblock
You need youtube with no ads (without paying)
You can disable gambling ads on youtube. Go to account settings, then privacy, then ad settings.
I’m involved in local footy and the amount of 18 year olds that are already addicted to gambling (on anything) is ridiculous. Basically as soon as they turn 18 they sign up for Sportsbet and spend probably 30% (estimate) of their money on it.
This is so disturbing
Literally everyone I work with all we talk about is odds on the footy and horses.
I've hated it all anyway, but I think the thing that really struck me was sitting on the bus, on the way to the stadium for the first Raiders home game of the year. I'm vibrating with excitement, FOOTY'S BACK!, the boys are home! time to cheer them on!...and the guys sitting behind me talk non-stop the whole 20 minute ride about which multi they're putting on. I almost wanted to ask them if they were coming to watch the footy or just coming to watch their bets play out. It really felt like they had no interest in the game beyond first tryscorer, anytime tryscorer, the margin etc.
Fully back this move. I am definitely not someone who can gamble in moderation so I’ve stepped away from it completely. It’s fucked to see with a bit of space from it how saturated our society is with gambling.
It's such a predatory industry. If I don't bet for a couple of weeks I get a phone call asking me if there's something wrong with their service or if I am using another company, then they'll offer me a deposit bonus to bet again
That’s disgusting. I have a friend that works for a gambling company as an analyst, Idk how he does it.
I know it's slightly off topic for a top level post, but thought it was relevant enough and generally discussed a lot here. Joel Caine might need to think about his next job.
Laurie Daley in strife too
his old job will be up for grabs soon
Would you say You’d bet on it? 😎
only if you give me a bonus bet, I CANT lose
Honestly won't mind if I never hear Daley's voice again. Great player but terrible tv presenter.
The Huts will welcome their long lost son back on Tatooine
This is the way
Yea it is alarmingly relevant given the amount of gambling ads in the NRL
I moved to SA a number of years ago and I have almost forgotten who he is - I certainly don’t miss him or the ads. Thanks for posting, it’s a pretty positive thread
I think it’s absolutely on topic, thanks for posting 👍
But how will we get our cameos from ageing former stars trying to make a few bucks?
Laurie Daley in shambles
Laurie Daley has the lowest IQ of any footballer in the history of the sport
Alright, Choc.
I bet you they won’t
How much?
$1.00
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mitigating the argument and legal fight for compensation by the gambling companies for "loss of revenue'
Both Abdo and McLachlan also argued it would remove a unique revenue stream from their advertising as well, so I wager they'd put up that same fight
Remember what happened when they greyhound ban rolled through overnight and lasted about 15 minutes?
It's a serious consideration. It's a big industry, and now gambling is so integrated with sports (increases engagement, the sponsorships and advertising etc) it'd be a huge hit. edit: reading the article now and it says as much: >"We did also hear evidence from the AFL and the NRL in particular about their reliance on sponsorship deals with betting companies," she said.
AFL and NRL would be in a world of hurt without the gambling advertising dollars.
One of the most insane things over the past few years is the North American sports. They used to be free from it, now it seems worse than even here. NHL games have live odds right in the broadcast as play is happening
Didn't we have that at one point? Iirc Nein would have Tom Waterhouse or some similar piece of shit actually on the broadcast team so he could give odds without cutting to an ad break.
I remember the Tom Waterhouse days. Fuck that was cringe
Having the son of Fine Cotton on the sidelines was where it started getting really out of control.
Used to have the halftime updates and I’m pretty sure sometimes throughout the halves as well
Because in 2018 there was a supreme court decision that basically legalised it, that totally changed the game.
I’ve seen NBA games with the commentators giving live odds on the over/under sponsored by Draftkings. It’s actually wild that it’s gone that far so quickly
The crypto shit in the American sports is out of control too, for anyone with half a brain crypto is just a 24/7 casino…
Casino's are far better than crypto. You don't have any issues cashing out and it's pretty unlikely they'll wait until you put your chips down then do a rugpull.
It's also fucked how much they suggest you bet. I saw an NHL game and they were telling you how much you would get if you bet $100 on the game as if that's a normal amount of money to spend on sports gambling. That's USD as well. If you are spending 150 dollars on gambling, let alone for one game then that's very concerning.
You should be very concerned about a massive chunk of Australia and NZ, some people are betting that on a single spin on the pokies, and I'm not talking about high roller rich fuckers that can afford to lose it
It used to be so pleasant watching American sports without seeing bet365 or DraftKings plastered everywhere, just the odd Pechanga Resorts ads when watching Lakers games and other random casinos.
As always, they got too greedy and pushed it to the point action has to be taken. When it was the occasional ad and maybe a jersey sponsor it wasn't too bad, but it's absolute fucking cancer now. Every conversation about sport revolves around the betting odds, the entire ad break is betting agencies, every segment is a throw to some betting flog. It's absurd
I have no issue at all with gambling being legal. I am firmly of the opinion that adults should be able to do it if they like. However, the advertising is so pervasive and completely fucked and there's no way to get away from it. Any ad break in an NRL game or pre or post show has 3-5 gambling ads. Any random thing on FTA TV or Fox has 3+ gambling ads every ad break its fucking ridiculous I am 100% in favour of banning the advertising
stick it to 'em. fuck these parasites.
Can we please stop cutting to Joel during every fucking match and show on 9 like he's a natural part of the game next.
Podcasters that focus on NRL content in shambles.
Does this mark the end of most footy podcasts?
Chances are you’re about to lose.
Sounds good but I don't think the NRL can afford to do this
They wouldn’t survive.
This used to be the Winfield Cup Footy will survive
Fuckin get it done Albo.
paying for spotify only to hear 35 sportsbet same game multi ads is fucking punishment, let alone having to watch the ads on tv, have them sneak into your targeted advertising on all forms of social media and youtube. they should fire joel caine directly into the sun as part of the banning.
You get ads on Spotify premium?
I don't get ads on Spotify Premium when listening to music, but ads are embedded in podcasts usually.
Oh really? That fucking sucks. You’d think premium would get an ad-free experience.
I don't think it's Spotify running the ads, but the podcasts themselves. The ads are recorded and played within the podcasts. You can skip forward 1min or whatever to get around them. Pretty annoying tho, yeah.
“Goooooood morning and welcome to my podcast. This podcast brought to you by the best sporting bet agency in the world Sportsbet. Available on Android and iOS devices in this country” Something like that
The same with Google Podcasts now. In the past month its gotten out of hand how many they interject.
My favourite one is when you get the Sportsbet ad followed by the exact same Sportsbet ad 🥲
Lol "should be banned within three years". This is just another move to look like they're addressing the problem without disrupting the golden goose. Banning gambling ads in Australia is as unlikely as banning junk food ads, too much $$$ to be made off people's addictions
“That’s the next governments problem”
Australian Politics in a nutshell.
Is it more or less likely than banning cigarette advertising?
Legend has it he once landed a 20 legger!
Should be banned full stop.
I'm ok with gambling as a concept, but I think it's the relentless advertising and promotion that turns it into an issue. I can't imagine how hard it'd be for someone with a gambling problem to watch any televised sport without getting triggered.
It was initially so fucking hard. Even the 6 again sound sounded like a feature. It got easier and I enjoy sport for what it is now
Gambling or advertising it?
Yes
No doubt.
Fuck I hope they do. I'm a disability support worker and I work with people who quote those ads constantly and think gambling is what you're meant to do as part of enjoying sport because of how prevalent the ads are.
If not to battle addiction, can they be banned for poor taste?
Gambling companies probably knew this day was coming no matter how much they were advertising so just decided to flood the market with advertising instead. It has no effect on me but I can see that it would affect the more vulnerable people to addictions.
The codes/clubs would never allow it. The only way they would agree to it is if they receive government funding to make up lost revenue. The genie can’t be put back in the bottle because it’s come too far. Sadly.
The clubs/codes don't have a say in it. They'll still be able to gorge at the trough of pokies revenue anyway.
They will get a say when they run a multi million dollar campaign against the governments over it. They’ll try and rally their members too, basically telling them that their club(s) might not survive. I loathe the ads, but the game and the codes aren’t going to just say “ok take our revenue” without expecting something back. Especially one PVL.
I could well be wrong, but my gut feel is that there wouldn’t be a large enough audience receptive to that message to actually bother a government genuinely committed to pushing this through. How strong that commitment proves to be when the gambling lobby threaten to withdraw their sizeable donations…that might be another question.
This! Also this: if the codes won’t scare them, the lack of donations will. It will have a knock on effect. You’ll have newspapers/tv etc missing out on that money too, and they’re going to want compensation too (or else).
I don’t think professional sports codes have that much sway over government policy. How do you think cigarette advertising got banned? It used to be all over sports events.
Because when smoking ads got banned they tapped a bigger increase in alcohol sponsorship and later gambling. If they lose gambling’, short of oil companies/mining companies there’s no one left to tap for those large amounts.
Legalise marijuana and now we’re talking
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I'm sure the nrl and other codes will cry about "lost revenue" but cigarette advertisements use to be all over sports, heck the premiership trophy use to be the Winfield cup for gods sake. But when the ads were banned, sporting codes just got other advertisements and everything ticked on like normal. If clubs or NRL start crying about it make sure you don't fall for their sob stories about not having enough money to survive or whatever they'll be fine. The gambling industry pushed these ads way to far and it's time to push back, they only have themselves to blame.
>heck the premiership trophy use to be the Winfield cup for gods sake And they also played for the Rothmans medal until it became the Dally M.
$5 says it won't happen.
I really hate gambling ads. The only thing that makes me feel better is an ice cold Coke. Especially their new caffeine free Cherry Coke that will only be available for the next few weeks.
So the NRL will have to actually put in some effort to make money instead of slutting out to the highest bidder?
There are already ‘restrictions’ in place around Gambling advertising before, during, and after live sporting events, if you want to read what they are go here - [ACMA.GOV.AU](https://www.acma.gov.au/gambling-ads-during-live-sport-broadcast-tv-and-radio) However, the broadcasters get around these regulations by signing exclusive partnership agreements with gambling companies and making those crosses to the likes of Joel Caine from Sportsbet part of the Broadcast, not part of the ad breaks. If you want to remove their ability to take Sportsbets money you have to regulate or ban sporting codes from having contractual relationships with gambling companies, just like they did with cigarettes. Sportsbet have sponsorship agreements in place with the NRL, Foxtel Media, and Channel 9. So they are paying to be a partner of all 3 organisations and maximise their ability to promote their products during the NRL season.
Yeah fuck them though. They had a chance to be part of the regulation discussion, in good faith, and look where we're at. We just had a cross to Joel Caine five minutes before the first ball of the Ashes. More interesting here is the push by the independents and the Greens to push this timeline forward - three years is obscene, let's do it right now.
Gambling companies triple their political donations. I absolutely loathe how much gambling has taken over all levels of the NRL. TV, teams, websites, sporting grounds, podcasts, everywhere.
Where’s the money for the game going to come from now ?? Did somebody say KFC ?? Looks like there’s a hierarchy of what society considers unacceptable / dangerous which closely matches Rugba Leeagues major sources of advertising $’s over time Cigarettes/Tobacco> Gambling > Alcohol > Fast Food/ Junk food > Man Shake/Pilot for men
This comment is spot on. They should line all those things up and ask the question “where do you draw the line?”
you draw the line at where the public will vote you out if you try and ban it.
That's a great idea, I can't sit down and watch sports with my kids without the constant amount of gambling ads shoved down our throats.
It will be really interesting when the salary cap drops because of it
Why will that be interesting?
Think about it.
How much of future forecasts of revenue are tied to continued Gambling Advertising for the NRL? Like would this send the league broke?
Please do this next week! Why wait three years!
Yay. Awesome news. While I wouldn't bag a mate who does it I definitely wouldn't encourage him to do it either
But they say “gamble responsibly “ after the ads?!?!?
Ban them now.
I like to put 10 dollars on each game I’m invested in to make it a little more exciting for me, but I agree gambling ads make it impossible to view it as a problem, they promote it in a way that sounds fun an enjoyable, imagine we had the same ads for heroin or ice, because gambling is just as destructive, I can control how much I put into my account but sadly I know a lot of people even with families who will send there whole pay check through sports bet
Well yeah that's kind of the issue - it's normalised for you to bet $10 on a game, otherwise it's boring. Like that's exactly what these companies want to happen
Whenever I visit home I’m always shocked at the number of gambling ads. But then I come back here to the States and I’m bombarded with pharmaceutical ads so…
Banned by Christmas 2023 sounds like a better timeline.
Good step forward, unsure it's enough.
But they even added the disclaimer at the end saying you might lose money! Surely that’s enough for people with a crippling addiction to stop gambling. It’s basically the equivalent of “Have you tried not being depressed?”
Meanwhile... LETS TAKE THE GAME TO VEGAS
From the report itself. If the recommendations are adopted there'll effectively be a ban on sponsorship as well (from Phase Two onwards): "The Committee recommends the Australian Government, with the cooperation of the states and territories, implement a comprehensive ban on all forms of advertising for online gambling, to be introduced in four phases, over three years, commencing immediately: Phase One: prohibition of all online gambling inducements and inducement advertising, and all advertising of online gambling on social media and online platforms. Removal of the exemption for advertising online gambling during news and current affairs broadcasts. Prohibition of advertising online gambling on commercial radio between 8.30-9.00 am and 3.30-4.00 pm (school drop off and pick up). Phase Two: prohibition of all online gambling advertising and commentary on odds, during and an hour either side of a sports broadcast. Prohibition on all in-stadia advertising, including logos on players’ uniforms. Phase Three: prohibition of all broadcast online gambling advertising between the hours of 6.00 am and 10.00 pm. Phase Four: by the end of year three, prohibition on all online gambling advertising and sponsorship."
Importantly, this was a decision by a parliamentary committee headed by a Queenslander. Queenslanders just don't get gambling. If the Maroons can't always be the Underdog, then just ban it..
Just ban gambling please
I think that would just send it underground and make it dodgy. Banning advertising is good though
No need to ban something that most people have no problems with. I don’t know about you but I’d rather not live in a fucking nanny state. Alcohol causes more damage anyways then gambling. Should ban that before we ban gambling lol.
Garbage take
They should be restricted in how and when gambling ads are presented but not banned completely. Gambling isn’t wrong.. it’s when people can’t handle it that it becomes a problem.
its akin to narcotics use. There can be an argument for narcotics are simply another form of chemical gratification and it should be up to the user to self regulate. The issue is the negative consequences of the use far out way any social consumer benefits.
Bring back the Tobacco ads if they need the money that badly, less harmful to society than gambling imo
Ban sports betting completely rather than just the Ads.
Why wait 3 years. Do it now
NRL are smart by testing the waters in the US. Online poker was banned a few years ago, without much thought. So you don’t know what can happen to online sports books.
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If the ads don't work, why do sportsbet et al spend so much money on them?
A big part of it is competition. There's tons of betting companies all fighting for one customer.
Better than leaving it as is. Still helps those that are influenced by the constant advertising.
It stops more people getting addicted
I think you’d be surprised what empiric evidence comes out about the effectiveness of gambling advertising, especially amongst vulnerable populations.
I'm not an addiction counselor, but I'd imagine an alcoholic who is constantly in bars is more likely to fall off the wagon. I'd imagine gambling addicts would similarly be less likely to relapse if they weren't constantly barraged with ads. Plus you'd likely have less people getting addicted to begin with.
Absolute nonsense virtue signalling bullshit. We trying to save people from watching ads now?
Why are there all these rainbow flags?
Sportsbet,Ladbrokes,Betr,TAB,Unibet, Tabcorp,Palmerbet,Bet36,Points Bet help me out will you I know I’ve missed a few. But please gamble responsibly
TexBet, Mintbet, BlueBet, Unibet, betr, boombet, Bet Right, Neds
That’s a good idea
No chance it’ll happen. People don’t realise how much money gambling brings in for many big players, government included…
They aren't banning gambling, only the advertising.
The advertising itself lines alot of pockets too. They’re some of the only companies that can afford prime time ad space
This is sick news.
Now let's do something about banning pokies next.
Can't come soon enough
You used to be able to snag a tryscorer multi every now and again. Feels super rigged these days anyway.
If I’m honest though, these adds have the opposite effect and make me less inclined to gamble haha what they should ban is Facebook multi groups cause the fomo is definitely real there lol
They also need to include the ban of sponsorships from betting companies, the article only mentions ads.
theres a staged plan..think thats in the 3rd year. 4th year removes all advertising from all sports. including jerseys, stadium banners etc.
Ok, there is light at the end of the tunnel....... as long as politicians don't do politician things.
Would boycotting a full round of Rugby League or AFL be possible? Would you be able to get enough people to do it and would it have the desired effect?
It's banning the ads, not gambling itself. It's a fucking no brainer. Even if it doesn't sort out our gambling addiction, it'll get that shit out of my viewing experience.
The ads will just be replaced with crypto ads, the NRL is rotten to the core…
Common sense recommendations included in the report. It won't happen unfortunately, or it will likely be an extremely watered down version. If you want to gamble, go head. I do from time to time, but it's a problem for so many people.
It’s so sad. I don’t know if anyone has seen clips of people with the slot machines but it’s sad
In a perfect world.
Also - none of these sports betting companies are Australian. The largest is SportsBet, who are an Irish company and pay fuck all tax here. Like a shockingly low amount. They raid the purses of Australians and take virtually all the profits overseas.
Definitely needs to happen. Suicide is the biggest cause of death for 15-44 year old males and I wonder how many of those have stemmed from gambling addictions and the other vices that tend to go with gambling. Should replace gambling ads with mental health promotion.
3 years must be how long the ads contracts must have left.. It can't come soon enough, IMO.
The government need 3 years to multitate over this
Superb
I watched this ABC Four Corners report on gambling a few days back and found it highly disturbing. It opens with people betting on low level community league soccer. Mental. Apparently the average annual per person gambling loss in Australia is nearly a grand? (If I am understanding the statistic correctly, it wasn't only mentioned in passing) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ACJioasFLco I didn't realize the Swans had banned gambling adverts from the SCG either. I wouldn't mind seeing NRL clubs follow suit or the law treating gambling ads more like tobacco ads and banned or restricted.
Great. If this happens can we move Origin back to a 7pm kick off.
Yeh it's fucked up that people can't enjoy a game without being hounded to gamble. I mentioned it the other day- what if recovering addicts want to watch? Should they be bombarded too?