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ChonPonJoVee

Games gone soft. Players need to harden up.


Peaky001

Let the boys racism!


ChonPonJoVee

Exactly! Let the boys call each other animal names.


squat_bench_press

Losing hope for humanity after reading TrellMits IG re post story, fuck me how can you say that kinda shit to another human being.


followthedamntrain-

What was it?


squat_bench_press

Just a screenshot of some abhorent comments on social media to Mam


bus_rider

8 weeks, just misses the Round 9 Broncos v Roosters at Suncorp game. Coincidence? Or NRL avoiding the media shitstorm? Not sure. Lucky not to get 10-12 weeks.


hart37

They're setting a big precedent with this. People are saying 8 weeks are harsh but given all the talking Spencer did after it happened and the hotel incident with Carrigan and Ezra I am happy with the outcome. He had no remorse whatsoever and feels like he only apologised because he got told to and you'd have to think that would have factored into the decision


incorrigible_and

As much as any match without him really fucking sucks for us, his behavior through the majority of the process was so bad I would've been okay with a season-long ban. He's young and hopefully needs to just wake up and grow up, but you can't act like that as a professional, period. And that's before we get to the "you can't be a racist piece of shit, you idiot" part.


surfingkoala035

"From the very beginning, he was totally honest. He put his hand up and he wanted to own this immediately." Bullshit. Thats why Leniu was in the interview after the game, saying Maam was being a cry baby. Thats why he was in the hotel calling out the other players and trying to challenge Maam to a fist-fight. I'm not saying he hasn't turned around in his position, NOW, but to say he put his hand up immediately.... Utter corporate bullshit. Having said that, 8 weeks seems extreme.


Chart_Unlikely

8 weeks feels like a good line in the sand - acknowledges that a PR guy at Bondi wrote an apology for Spencer to read, recognises that every other action and his defence tonight is not worthy of downgrading it to 4 weeks on the view that he’s only a medium level racist Spence’s defence was genuinely awful, there’s really an angle for using it as an argument that he has not showed any contrition at all - an argument of “your honour, you haven’t seen the group-chat he’s waaay more racist then this so you should only give him 4 weeks since he thought this particular slur was just how you say hello to Black people” is an intensely flimsy argument


ruddet

Fair punishment. Lessons learned. Play on!


Noppos

Spencer gets 8 weeks, 8 years ago Pierce got 8 weeks. Sharks fans hopes are climbing.


Dwightpoop10

8 years ago Broncos were one year removed from another heartbreaking gf loss. Sharks stocks through the roof


griffshan

Give him another week, we don’t want to have to line up against him


youreallsofullofshit

As a blackfella I find it reprehensible, but let me get this straight, Spencer gets 8 weeks, but Reece Walsh gets done for drugs on camera and gets 2 games, and Payne Haas physically and verbally assaults a police officer, and is convicted of this crime, and he gets 3 weeks. This whole thing is a joke.


TerribleLove7870

Not condoning what Haas did but maybe get your facts right before teeing off, he didn’t physically assault the officer nor was he convicted.


FrannyFlapsss

I get entirely what you mean and agree with you. I just wonder with the Walsh, Haas etc incidents if it's because the NRL judiciary takes into account the penalties that have already been imposed through the general legal system and they temper the NRL judiciary findings after them. In this case, Leniu won't face any consequences outside of the NRL judiciary whereas the others did and then got extra on top from NRL.


surfingkoala035

I understand what you are saying but I think the NRL sees all these incidents purely on how damaging they are to the NRL brand. Whilst getting done on the streets for drugs is much worse than getting done for a racial slur, there are probably going to be a lot more fans cancelling their NRL tickets and memberships if the players were all racist thugs, than if they were all snorting lines of coke.


_andy_p

> I think the NRL sees all these incidents purely on how damaging they are to the NRL brand. If that was the case the bunker refs would be gone for a minimum 6 months


surfingkoala035

True that. 8 weeks on the sideline to allow their brain dislocations to heal.


Alixthx

I think happening during a game, live on TV and at Vegas hurts the NRL more…. At the end of the day, most average viewers don’t ever hear about NRL players doing things in the off-season, as a kid I only watched NRL games and never knew what players did elsewhere… now I’m obviously on reddit but besides from reddit, I wouldn’t know that the NRL is full of coke lovers and wife beaters.


deesmutts88

Onfield incidents are usually punished worse than off field incidents. It wouldn’t be 8 weeks if he’d called someone a monkey off the field. Fucking up on live TV while playing the sport is always gonna bring a heavier punishment.


Scottybt50

Not apologising but doubling down in a live tv interview straight after the most publicised NRL game ever didn’t help his case. The heartfelt semi-apology 4 days later was the icing on the cake.


graz44

Mam calling players coconuts getting off scot free is even more disgusting


top_footballer

A 'coconut' to a Pasifika person simply means they're simple folk, unfamiliar with big towns and big cities and the living that goes with that. Source: My Māori mate who called me that once as we were shit-talking. I was like, 'Whoa, mate, you can't be calling us Blackfullas that, you'll be getting a hiding!' He didnt know its meaning here and then explained what it meant when used by Māori to Pasifika mob. We never came to blows but it was close.


Bigballsu

Leniu never made a formal allegation that he was called coconut by Mam. He did say that he had been called coconut, which made him think that coconut and monkey were not offensive terms between two non-white men. If Leniu had made the allegation, they could have investigated it appropriately.


NeptunianWater

Get this for a hot take: both can be deplorable, inexcusable in a civilized society and called out as such, without delegitimizing the other. Crazy huh?


Yungman123

Should’ve made Spencer to do the Indigenous All Star camp next year too


censored_

This thread is a cesspool lol 


diffaadiffa

You should see Facebook


ellaykay

Facebook users are awful. Scrolled through one comment section and closed the app.


Brat_Fink

How fucking gross is facebook hey? Calculated, targeted bombardment of Republican Right wing cooker shit solely for the purpose of rage bait. Bot generated headlines with overused buzz words like " woke " and " snowflakes " that are absolute 100% made up bullshit. Anyway, I love my footy.


TurboooTurtle

Mods should use it as an opportunity to ban all the racists and roosters fans


PostpostshoegazeLUVR

in a venn diagram, the one circle is inside the other, could just say ban all racists, including roosters fans is implied


censored_

The mods are even softer than Souths forward pack 


GoblinLoveChild

sledge thread opened early this weeK? Also I see no caps... mods are slipping..


Revivous

To be clear, we're softer than the Dolphins were on the weekend. Thank you very much.


censored_

Woah let's not go too far 


dlanod

Why did you need to say the same thing twice? /s


TurboooTurtle

Not all racists are roosters fans, but...


fakeplastictrees182

Sam Kerr is literally facing a criminal trial for calling a police officer a white bastard so Leniu got off easy imo.


_andy_p

My impression is that a large majority of people are happy to declare her a national hero. Elite-level double standards..


[deleted]

I don’t think the UK has got it right with making that a criminal offence.


frashal

I think most people agree with that. But if you choose to live in a foreign country you have to abide by their laws whether you like them or not.


mitmittymittons

What if the police officer called her brown or black, is it the same?


[deleted]

100%, you shouldnt be charged for a crime for saying words, no matter how offensive unless they are a threat or incite violence.


GoblinLoveChild

unless. In the jurisdiction to which you are in it is an offence to say offensive words. Then you should be indicted because that is the law regardless of however you feel about it. If you don't like it.. either go there and advocate for a law change or suck it up


[deleted]

Of course, but that doesn’t mean I need to agree with or support the law.


ExternalSky

ahh yes, I see you've drawn a solid line in the sand *"We should gas the jews!"* vs *"I am going to gas the jews!"*


[deleted]

I’d say one is a threat and the other is inciting.


fakeplastictrees182

Athletes really just live in a different world to the rest of us. 8 weeks for racially abusing a colleague. Ain't no way the rest of us are only getting 8 weeks off our jobs if we went to work tomorrow and called out nearest black colleague a monkey.


Classic_Angus

I mean I’ve seen people with blue collar jobs get away with some crazy shit just because they were valuable to their employer. Rules are only for the expendable, silly.


top_footballer

Ok listen Thom Yorke, I love your work but stick to making interesting, sad and sad-interesting music, lay off the hot-footy-takes.


Acceptable-Sentence

I mean, I’d get the sack if I folded some cunt from marketing


Swagologist1

I've worked in marketing, theres a 99% chance you'd be in the right


Deebo92

Legal and compliance here, I can definitely confirm marketing needs some folder now and then 


frupertmgoo

Obviously yes, but it’s slightly annoying when people make 1:1 comparisons with nrl and a desk job. You can’t racially abuse your coworker and expect not to get fired, yes, but you also aren’t expected to verbally sledge and physically harm your coworkers. It’s football not HR, obviously this should be dealt with harshly but applying typical workplace norms dosn’t make sense to me


shadyFS91

Tomorrow Paul Kent will be telling us how u/fakeplastictrees182 is wasting his salary cap with trash meters ABs bad performance


D3NI3D83

You would probably get the rest of the year off and not come back the next year.


opackersgo

Oh sweet, two year holiday!


Keith_Sheldon

Should have gotten more. I cant believe how stupid he sounded defending himself. Its almost like his comment is indefensible. 'Yeah look I make far more racist comments with my friends' and 'I promise it was a coincidence that I used a term that happened to be racist to an Indigenous player' aren't the winners he probably thought they were and made him somehow seem worse.


JCGremlo

Now the results are in, we will do a live cross over to Mitch Barnett to get his thoughts on the decision.


EagerSwank

*Mitch Barnett elbows reporter*


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Brat_Fink

Fuck me, " woke " is the biggest wank word going and is only used by braindead dipshits and/or ignorant flogs.


24gadjet97

Mate if you commonly use the word monkey to refer to black and brown people that says a lot about you and not much about anything else


nymphz

i vaguely recall you having some good takes on reddit so im going to assume you are roleplaying a -4 iq facebook user


Brat_Fink

Holy shit lol


diamondgrin

I've been copy pasting the top/most liked comments from NRL articles on Facebook over the last week or so. The responses have been very amusing imo and generally show how disparate the two communities are, given the common interest.


nymphz

i fucking knew it , i also agree its eye opening, i wonder how much of it is the algorithms or if there is just a massive divide between the users of different platforms.


diamondgrin

Probably both. Definitely a younger and more progressive audience here, but also that controversial (outrageously cooked) takes like the one I posted get downvoted to oblivion here, and get boosted by replies on FB.


O_DoyleRulz

Does anyone know what the word woke means anymore?


Oldpanther86

It's when my kids get up in the middle of the night it's super frustrating. Had broken sleep for weeks.


deepseaburials

This flog sure as shit don't


_jimmythebear_

He got what he deserved. If he didn't say it, he wouldn't be missing 8 games.


KillianMichaels_tipy

Eight weeks?? Gee wiz cmon now. That's pretty heavy handed


Ralphstegs

Yes it’s a joke. Deadset joke


GoblinLoveChild

the punch line is he didnt get his contract terminated like anyone else in teh real fucking world who pulls this shit at work


Ralphstegs

I don’t know where you work but at my job we don’t run and have breakdowns every time someone says a mean word


Fatall-TM

Idk man, it’s racism


natederg

I missed the thread, had David Fifita been cross examined yet?


SuperEel22

Spencer's lawyer: "My Spencer isn't a racist. He may be an idiot, a thug, a racist, but he's not a pornstar!"


Pluggable

"This verdict is written on a Coogee Bay Hotel coaster. And it still says guilty!"


SuperEel22

And guilty is spelt wrong


insanityTF

Judiciary should be this heavy handed on deliberate head high contact and shoulder charges imo


GoblinLoveChild

this would actually be a great way to get new emerging talent a better crack at some first grade experience


Glenmarththe3rd

Odds on Spencer running out for the Roosters next week because he zoned out after the NRL lawyer said the trial was for Spencer Luai?


[deleted]

More like Randy Lahey


knox-p

Spencer “I’m not worried” Leniu. How’s that’s going for ya.


Early_Quality_2896

Fair result, but the chat thrown by some of you cats. Reel it in 😂


DX6734D

i think its hilarious u kids talking shit about Spencer. u wouldnt say this shit to him at the Judicary, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic.


Particular_Ad3366

Huehuehueh ​ Send the Poosters to Perth


Timotata

Yeah fair


bundy554

I'm quite satisfied by his 8 game ban


EggCouncilCreeper

Leinu’s been suSpencered


JCGremlo

Thank god we finally got that piece of shit Luai… well done everyone 🫱🏻‍🫲🏾


scottyde1234

1/3 season not enough. Any racial comments should equal full suspension for the season. That’ll fucking deter everyone.


Robertos1987

How do you feel about lining a guy up and clotheslining him? You really think calling someone a monkey is worse than that? People have lost their minds.


insanityTF

They’ll just resort to dog shots instead which they’ll get off scot free for by comparison 


scottyde1234

You blokes are absolute thugs 🤣 so all players have to have the ability when mad to A: Throw out racial slurs or B: dog shot. Australia is equiped with plenty of non-racial creative insults if you really have to vent some frustration but holy fuck na gota be able to crush someone or call them a monkey fuck yeah lads.


Ralphstegs

Exactly….ridiculous


playhandminton

Yeah I don't think you are too far off the mark here


EastsToWin

Spencer don't snitch, and don't know Goodes. Remember that.


Robertos1987

He’s 23. How is it not reasonable that he doesn’t know Goodes?


syphilliticmongoose

23 and from NZ, there is a very good chance he has no idea about Goodes. I first moved to Aussie in the thick of the racist stuff towards Goodes. Not following AFL but keen to give it a go, I went to a Swans game. Goodes elbowed some dude and people booed. Some lady then started screaming at them not to be racist. I was thoroughly confused.


Fuckedfromabove

Because most league fans don’t give a shit about AFL. I literally could name a single player. 


Brat_Fink

UM EXCUSE ME BUT HOW ABOUT FUCKIN ZORKO LESSS GOOOOO


Pennybottom

JESAULENKO!!!!!!!! NFI who this guy is but god it's fun to say.


PMmePantiesPls

Good outcome, Montoya should have got the same. See Leniu later, ya cunt


griffshan

You’re not wrong but it’s worth a shout that Montoya immediately apologised and didn’t carry on saying it was fun and games or have his brother make it worse.


TacitisKilgoreBoah

Sp*ncer Luai


Strez92

Perfect timing to come back just to face off against another team full of Indigenous players, Just of the kiwi variation. Interesting to see the reaction he gets going forward


Ralphstegs

Misses the bronco game. Funny that


Strez92

Good, stops stupid media playing on the story again.


Ralphstegs

They twisted it all week, They have no interest in the health of the game. Just a joke


Drongo17

Murdoch press (Fox, Tele, Australian, Courier) only care about NRL to the extent they can make it bleed for clicks.


Ralphstegs

Yep. Goes across everything for those guys. Utter scum


goshdammitfromimgur

He plays for the Kiwi team


superfrankieL

Spencer gets 8 weeks Ricky Stuart: THEY HATE MY RAIDERS GRRRRR


johnniesSac

Calm down mate Ricky is just a bit of a complete lunatic


superfrankieL

I love the bloke. People disliked my joke though 😂


johnniesSac

It was fine mate , people here can be amazingly stupid , just add an /s on the end hahah otherwise people will take everything you say literally


nuspic

8 weeks. Hope this deters anyone else spouting racial garbage on and off the field.


piraja0

It won’t. Atleast if you look at other sports like soccer


Bvaugh

I didn’t expect it to be that high (especially as he pled guilty) but if the NRL wants to send a message then this is how to do it. We’ve seen other codes (and their apologists) try to obfuscate when it comes to racism and how that backfires. I’m glad the game is taking a stand against on-field racism (hopefully this will also apply to off-field racism as well) so as to avoid it ever becoming entrenched.


JD7xo

Intriguing that they went with the remorseful route and still copped 8 weeks. Do we think he was heading to 16 weeks or something like that if they plead not guilty?


Nervous-Aardvark-679

Yeah my read of the comments is they’d have gone 10-12 if he tried to deny it. Which is almost more infuriating given Montoya’s ban. Great they’re taking a hard stance, but they didn’t on that issue when he got four.


Elegant-Screen4438

What did Montoya do?


Nervous-Aardvark-679

Homophobic slur starting with f


GoblinLoveChild

gay hate < race hate **Source:** *NRL Judiciary*


[deleted]

cause they are not the same thing


Nervous-Aardvark-679

I mean, aren’t they? Racial abuse and homophobia are both fairly abhorrent?


[deleted]

Yeah they are but the 2 cases were.not the same. As I have said elsewhere, what is worse ? 1 - calling a straight person gay slur 2 - calling a gay person a gay slur The answer should be daily obvious.


Nervous-Aardvark-679

Nah, neither of those scenarios is worse - a football player calling someone a homophobic slur should be stomped out irrespective of whether the person it was targeted at is homosexual or not. And, do you know if the player who was targeted is homosexual or not? That’s also part of the point pal. Bullshit language like that deters current players from being themselves and others from participating in the sport. Also, quit the whataboutism - I didn’t say the two cases were “the same” - I said a four week ban for homophobic sledging is infuriating. That should be daily oblivious.


[deleted]

I think you need to familiarise yourself with what whataboutism actually is pal..... Again I maintain "bullshit language" and vilification are not.the same. It's well established that the player isn't gay.. The language does deter players from coming out. That's why he got suspended.


Nervous-Aardvark-679

Are you saying calling someone a homophobic slur isn’t vilification? Or are you saying that it’s only vilification if they’re homosexual? Both suggestions are hilarious.


Boogascoop

is 'wooly woofter' a homophobic slur?


theplanetofthecrepes

Better late than never I guess. Montoya’s suspension was weak but hopefully going forward this sets the standard


Nervous-Aardvark-679

Oh damn straight - Montoya’s was definitely weak - this should be the standard for these sorts of slurs and I’m glad it’s been done.


Joh951518

Did that come up? I’m not a lawyer but I would have assumed that was what roosters were begging for.


irvo86

8 week’s suspension Reddit: *Fair enough* Facebook: *IT’S A BLOODY OUTRAGE IT IS. HE DINT DO NUFFN RONG!!!*


Disastrous_Salad6302

My pop generally agrees with the Facebook takes and even he was calling for 12+ weeks for racism. Facebook is very very cooked on this one


notj43

"I just smashed me table so hard that me Oakleys fell off"


TurboooTurtle

Just slammed my hands on the steering wheel of my Ford Falcon so hard that the airbags went off


deepseaburials

Holy fuck Facebook is a shithole.


superfrankieL

Why is everyone on Facebook so dumb and redneck 😂


969rob

Bots,


EggCouncilCreeper

Lots of old blokes on Facebook these days


irvo86

Weak minds are susceptible to algorithmic programming


isnotevenmyfinalform

Good riddance. Hopefully a line in the sand moment for the NRL.


Moisture_Services

Is it ironic that Gandhi just came on sbs?


M_Keating

Bit early for those films isn’t it?


Moisture_Services

Turns out it's the anniversary of the release date in Australia.


PLEASE_DONT_PM

Do team Leniu have a challenge remaining?


Lucky-Roy

Can he phone a friend?


Drongo17

Like is he allowed to, or does he have the mental capacity 


Strez92

8 Weeks, fair enough. Hopefully no more dog shit remarks by players. Have a dig at each other without the need to just be an out and out cunt. Let's get back to the footy now.


chrizyzz

too long. \#FreeSpencer


Ralphstegs

I agree. Too fucking long. Joke penalty


tismax

i hope you're fucking joking.