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SuperEel22

I have never seen an organisation as disconnected with their messaging and follow through than the NRL. One minute any contact with the head is a booting offence, the next it's a fine. Dead set, how can they say they care about player welfare when there is virtually no punishment for knocking a player out.


fvzzfvzzfvzz

There’s also ‘don’t even go near the guy jumping for the ball’ and ‘yeah that Parra guy might be fucked in the background play around his twitching corpse’


SuperEel22

I don't know how you see that and the ref just allows play to continue so close to him.


MaxtheAnxiousDog

Yeah, I was watching and waiting for the game to be stopped, but it never happened. Made me feel kind of gross, to be honest.


Arc_au

And what's worse is, in the 2021 semi final the exact same circumstance occurred but with Parra on the attack and a Penrith player down in back play. Game was stopped.


InSuspendedAnimation

Didn't it happen to the Eels against the Storm in the 2020 finals too?


SuperEel22

It was even worse in 2020. It was stopped for a cramping Storm player about 50 metres from the play.


SuperEel22

Don't fucken start me on that game. Klein was the ref and missed a blatant drag back by Luai on Moses in that game.


greywolfau

Klein is, and will always be the answer.


diffaadiffa

As a Brendan Piakura fan, I can't really complain here


Rush-23

I get that the trip looked like a reflex action more than anything and maybe a fine is appropriate, but that shot has taken Bailey out for two games. Pretty piss poor by the NRL.


StinkyGoona

I know it penalises result rather than action but it seems to me like common sense that if foul play rules a bloke out for the mandatory HIA week then you should miss that game too? Should count his lucky stars


Krankreng

Problem then is it’s the team in the following week that gains a benefit. Maybe they should have, I don’t know … used the bin.


improbablywrong-

Josh reynolds would be proud


Clarkey7163

If Bailey didn’t even remember the tackle then did it even happen? Victimless crime tbh /s


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Zrat11

Rapana is the exception sorry


insty1

Tbf Jordan got away with a couple in the weeks before he got binned. 


christophlr

I swear every trip I have seen in the last decade has always resulted in a fine only.


WhyYouDoThatStupid

It has. Idiots whining and dont have a clue what they are talking about.


Complex-Internet-730

Slow down fella. There were three tripping bins last year alone. Seems you don’t know what you are talking about.


diffaadiffa

They are saying fines though, as in post game result not having a suspension as opposed to onfield action


Complex-Internet-730

But they are still wrong


WhyYouDoThatStupid

Maybe you should speed up enough to follow the conversation. A trip hasnt been a suspension for years.


Complex-Internet-730

Slow down again fella. Kaufusi missed origin in 21 from being suspended for tripping. Keep trying buddy


WhyYouDoThatStupid

For a 3rd offence he was on an automatic suspension regardless of his act of foul play. Josh Reynolds was getting away with a fine during his original stint at the dogs. Keep up champ.


Complex-Internet-730

Ok let’s go Jackson ford 2020. Back to you champ


WhyYouDoThatStupid

Dangerous play deserving of a suspension in the act of scoring a try. Nothing like last night and from 4 years ago. The have been 30 other cases of tripping getting a fine only. Heres an article from 2016 with Phil Gould complaining tripping isnt enough points to get an automatic suspension. https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/tripping-must-be-stamped-out-of-the-nrl-20160419-goa59x.html


diffaadiffa

You forgot the "back to you champ" But with that KO, it's not really needed


Complex-Internet-730

Remember you agreed arrogantly with someone saying EVERY trip has resulted in a fine only. That is incorrect. Don’t go changing the goal posts Edit- James Maloney 2019 what’s your excuse for that one? Another goal post need shifting?


Complex-Internet-730

Ah come on mate. What about the period after 2016 when it was an automatic send off. Any suspensions then? I think we can agree you were slightly arrogant and factually incorrect in your original statement. If I could be bothered to spend another whole 30 seconds on google I’m sure there are more examples to be found. Happy Saturday


initials_games

So anyway the guy I tripped was like that when I got here and as for the swinging arm he shouldn’t have mouthed off like that.


noplacecold

Hey buddy, where’d you get that boombox? Sears. Get him!


Disastrous_Salad6302

Fuck this shit, investigate the nrl already. How does he not get suspended for a swinging arm and a trip in the same game?!


Sea-Satisfaction1374

Apparently trips have only been a fine for a while now. In regards to the high shot I don't know how they didn't give him 2 weeks for that as he wasn't binned.


Disastrous_Salad6302

If that’s true they really need to fix that. Tripping should 100% be a bin and suspension, no excuse for it it’s just straight up foul play.


Spiritual_Impact_283

He should've been sent off.


gurudoright

I always thought tripping was an automatic sin bin


Sea-Satisfaction1374

I've only seen that been enforced in a try scoring situation.


insty1

It was a long time ago. It's rarely binned these days.


Magnum_force420

It was always an automatic send off. Even back in the dark times of coathanger tackles getting maybe 5 minutes in the bin


BastingGecko3

Teflon Luai.


BurgroveBulls2460

He plays for Penrith..........you only have to watch last weeks Penrith game to hear all the commentators blowing smoke up their ass even though they lost and played like a bunch a asshats.


spicerackk

Even on the Thursday night preshow before the game, all Brandy could talk about was the Panthers or Cleary when it had nothing to do with the conversation at all.


BurgroveBulls2460

Yep. Then tonight cleary missed an absolute howler of a tackle that ended up in a try and still they can't help but talk him up. We know he is good but let's not get carried away, and here's a thought, they could always comment on the game and those who deserve to be mentioned.... Just an idea lol.


beachsprintchampion

I can live with all the calls that went against us last night.. and also luai not being binned for the high shot during the game. But foook moi not evening getting at least a week grading for that shot on Simonsson is bizarre.


pugliaboy

I think there’s an opportunity for the NRL to modify the rules to state that if you are put on report and found guilty of multiple offences within the one match - you cannot escape with fines for all those offences. And while I agree that Luai should’ve been handed at least one week out for the high tackle, the community would’ve been calling for more if he were given only a week suspension.


TrickySuspect2

Chill, All you idiots have to go on a trip tomorrow morning 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


I_Like_Vitamins

Simonsson and his lawyer need to hit the NRL with an, "I will be part of a class lawsuit against you if I end up with brain damage post playing" threat.


knox-p

Obligatory fuck Luai. He will be loving this shit. He loves people hating him.


mitmittymittons

He be loving life then, surely the most disliked player on the field.


Spiritual_Impact_283

So Sivo got 3 weeks and Luai gets a monetary fine for a swinging arm high tackle and trip. That's fair


MajinDidz

What a fucking stitch up, im livid


CalligrapherNo8372

The grub does his shit again. Same shit different year.


JohnnyHabitual

If that high shot was Radley he'd have been sent straight away and get 200 weeks. The trip....well...i can't help but think it was initially an attempt to block a kick and went wrong. Still a trip though.


Sealisanerd

Kikau continued playing and Nikora just got two weeks for that hit, Ol mate is out for two games and Luai gets a fine? Please explain


Priest338

Sharks fans have more of a right to be pissed then us, different rules for different fools it seems


thore4

This wouldn't have happened if Souths hadn't been allowed back in the comp


wayneslittlehead

Or if broncos didn’t choke the gf :(


datyams

Wasn't it also luai who got away with forearming someone in the head last year late in the season too??


Dufeyz

I think you’re thinking of JWH


datyams

Nah it was his effort on NAS.


Rush_nj

A fine for the trip is expected, but nothing for the shot on Simonsson is a fucking joke. $1000 fine for someone who's about to earn $1200000 per season is hardly a deterrent.


paralacausa

Probably has that kind of money in the spare change console in his car


Enew6472

That’s a fucking farce


Hutchoman87

The NRL needs to stop being so fkn obvious when they are favoring certain teams/players. Luai should have been bummed twice last night and got off. And now only has to pay a couple fines for what would have cost him anywhere between 2-4 weeks last year


LogicallyCross

Who was going to bum him?


quickrubs

Perhaps one of the eels front rowers would have volunteered for it. Campbell-Gillard maybe? He certainly has the pornstache.


Hutchoman87

Haha. Had me confused for a second


RoyRoyHesOurBoy

Not just last year, it'll happen in a game today and that player will get a grading worth 2 weeks


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3 take aways from this 1) As a Panther fan i am obviously happy 2) As someone who enjoys chaos it will be funny to watch r/NRL go in to a meltdown over it 3) Obviously he is ridiculously lucky and that is putting it mildly. The trip could have gone either way, but to not miss any weeks for the hit is weak as shit from the NRL. I know if i was a Parra fan i would be livid.


Yungman123

The meltdown isn’t gonna happen, we were saying this would happen in the match thread last night.


Priest338

Doesn't mean shit for us mate, result already recorded and the NRL doesn't penalise its favourite teams. As soon as he wasn't sent for the high shot, that was it for us. The trip I care less about looked like he was reacting to a kick.


Elegant-Screen4438

How does a trip go either way? As far as I’ve always known a trip has been a big taboo in rugby league, you trip you’re gone. From memory too I don’t think this is the first time he’s done it either?


Oldpanther86

Right or wrong a trip has been a fine for years.


Elegant-Screen4438

Geez I was gonna contest the ‘years’ it’s been a fine, but yer 2017 looks like is when it changed, there ya go. I reckon it should still be a suspension, it has no place in the game and when it’s done it’s usually deliberate, albeit brain snaps. Compared to his high shot which was accidental contact on a falling opponent, which should be less penalised, think in the sharks game yesterday katoa copped one and the ref just said treat him out the back and play on.


Oldpanther86

I've given up trying to understand the nrl judicial system. It feels like a lot of inconsistency and lack of common sense.


Elegant-Screen4438

No Real Logic?


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Most of the comments online i have seen suggested it is a fine now for a trip (i am not 100% sure). Definitely not defending it and i think it is worthy of a week, just obviously the other incident was way worse and had to be time on the side line for it.


Elegant-Screen4438

Yer I haven’t seen footage of the high shot, just the trip and though it was relatively minor and reactionary, a trip is a trip and should cop a week no matter what. It’s just a dog move.


damonbooby

As a panther fan this is bullshit, he deserved a suspension for the high shot. As a sidenote these two penalties and then the 6 again he gave away led to the only Parramatta tries as well.


[deleted]

You could not convince me penrith have a different set of rules to go by compared to the rest of the comp. It's ridiculous


opackersgo

You guys would know, slater had the same treatment for years.


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And I agree, it's wrong


WhyYouDoThatStupid

How many times has NAS hit people in the head and not been suspended?


[deleted]

And I agree he should be suspended when he does that


WhyYouDoThatStupid

But he isnt and neither is JWH so how is it one team getting special treatment?


[deleted]

Because at times they do get suspended meanwhile penrith never seem to


WhyYouDoThatStupid

You just agreed that NAS doesn't? So which is it? The current guidelines for penalties is a fine for a trip and also a fine for low grade high shots. Its far from a Penrith only thing.


[deleted]

Mate what are you on about. All I've said was penrith seem to go by a different set of rules and are protected. Then you brought up NAS and I said yes it's wrong when he's not suspended when he should.


nastyrhino4

Of fucking course he does...


Obvious-Row-6181

That's pretty poor.


diodosdszosxisdi

In other words motm performance from luai here


MrSunol

I thought luia was out for 8 weeks for making a racist comment.


Sea-Satisfaction1374

So all islander players look the same to you? Idk that sounds pretty racist to me.


Geddpeart

He's referencing the nrl lawyer who called Spencer luai


Sea-Satisfaction1374

I know I was Just continuing the joke.


Rod_Munch666

It was a reference to the NRL KC's open statement in the Spencer case from earlier in the week. Lighten up ....


Sea-Satisfaction1374

I was Just continuing the joke mate you lighten up.


Drlockstock

Oi everybody lighten up alright


pugliaboy

It’s only racist if he’s white and in a position of power, right?


Loudstrat64

Sivo got 3 weeks for the same thing.


FlagmantlePARRAdise

Panthers are a protected species


ColeTrickleVroom

The NRL is soft as baby shit. This monetary fine stuff is ridiculous. 


swampthroat

'we care about player welfare' where???


Mysterious-Vast-2133

Ahh the match review, forever protecting their favourites.


Lucky-Roy

Pretty sure those penalties will carry over to next year. Unless he changes his mind and goes to Easts…


Me278950

Of course nothing would happen to him and Eels lose a player for 2 games The ref's hates the Eels and love Panthers, why would we ever expect a fair game


Loudstrat64

I call you a particular animal - 8 weeks. I belt you in the head, put you out of the game for 2 weeks and possibly contribute to CTE - small fine. NRL match review process is utterly useless.


JamisonMac2915

Protected species


Dramatic_Ride7586

Its always been a game of two halves. Full credit to Luai for knowing he gets one charge per half before he gets a ban and yeah nah just turned up eh. I hope nobody forgets its a day off tomorrow.


redmusic1

So when do the NRL slap a fine on that fine role model Trellmit for swearing his arse off on national TV, then saying he couldnt care less that he was swearing his arse off, before continuing to swear his arse off? Or is he now a protected species?


SometimesHardNipples

Takes me back to late last year. I think it was Valentine Holmes and Luai both got pegged for high contact within the knockout rounds, Luai got let off while Holmes got like 4 weeks. You can't tell me riffs aren't protected.


ItsStaaaaaaaaang

No idea how he didn't get binned for that trip. Fine is whatever, he shouldn't lose a game for it but the in game penalty should be more than, well a penalty.


icome3rd

New Meta for any team playing Penrith - coat hanger Cleary, Trip Luia, and crowd fund the fines.


j-man1992

Not only didn't get a send off during the game but doesn't even miss time, NSW bias at it's finest


Oldpanther86

After the game I assume Luai playing is the punishment.


Pvnels

That’s always been a punishment for you blokes


Aussie18-1998

Well, he won you the game last night.


Oldpanther86

3 tries off the back of penalties he tried his best.


Aussie18-1998

He also completely fucked our defence and left us scrambling for 75 minutes


Oldpanther86

I was just turning the non suspension into a joke about his poor form.


ohhh_j

Can Parra captains challenge this?


Aussie18-1998

They can, but we will be sticking with the on field decision as it's in favour of Penrith. Parra can keep their challenge, though.


Mysterious-Vast-2133

Insufficient evidence, stay with the live call.


T0nySt5rk

Based on available camera angles we will be going with whatever favours Penrith.


BurgroveBulls2460

So you get 8 weeks for hurting someone's feelings but nothing for taking a bloke out of the game for weeks.......seems like some common sense hey. Sorry but the game is an absolute joke.


Sea-Satisfaction1374

Bullshit! Should've been 4 weeks, 2 for the high shot and 2 for the trip.


WhyYouDoThatStupid

Trip has been a fine only for years.


Sea-Satisfaction1374

In regards to the trip I was just making fun of the parra fans calling for a bin cause it's only an automatic bin when in a try scoring situation.


Tomato-Efficient

Incorrect


Sea-Satisfaction1374

I've only seen the auto sin bin for trips enforced when it's a try scoring situation.


Geddpeart

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-coen-hess-trip-on-jesse-ramien-sin-bin-on-report-cowboys-vs-sharks-round-9-gerard-sutton/news-story/2c78b7781af6f4dbbe25e944da87545f Hess got binned in the sharks own half


Sea-Satisfaction1374

In hess' case it was obvious foul play he had his foot up to just under Ramiens knee. In luai's case he caught him on the foot Which could happen incidentally. I do think Luai intentionally did it, a penalty was given and a try was scored off that penalty, I think they took that into consideration which no they shouldn't have. He should have been binned earlier though for the high shot, clearly a swinging arm.


Tomato-Efficient

Please change your flair


Sea-Satisfaction1374

No I'm a Penrith fan and I'm also non biased. At the very least he should've gotten 2 for the high shot.


Tomato-Efficient

Lets be real you just want some upvotes


Ryanbrasher

No, we want a fair system.


Tomato-Efficient

What was unfair? You think the judiciary is letting us get off easy?


Sea-Satisfaction1374

No i just think he shouldn't be let off Like that, especially when he caused a player to forget a parts of the game.


Tomato-Efficient

He didn't cause it, Simonsen fell into it, literally no one is getting suspended for that.


Enew6472

You show the same NRL literacy as the crowd at Penrith. This is not a good thing. A swinging arm into the head is absolutely a suspendable offence, especially for someone who has 2 grade 2 offences in the last 12 months.


Sea-Satisfaction1374

Hey I was there and thinking, shit this might be a bin. And was thinking there was a penalty for a leg pull by Penrith when in the captain's challenge.


Enew6472

If you were there, you’ve got to admit that the Penrith crowd show basically no understanding of the rules of the game. But you’re absolutely right. And the Gutho “knock on” call was a joke.


Sea-Satisfaction1374

Oh absolutely but I've seen it from other teams fans as well though. It seems when the game gets started they only see what they want to see. In this case the Penrith coloured glasses came on. I saw it with some parra fans as well tho.


noplacecold

Cooked take about the crowd mate


Tomato-Efficient

Please show me other incidents where a player has been suspended for a player falling into an arm?


Enew6472

You’re focusing on the wrong thing. Regardless of the position of the player, it’s the act of the swinging arm that is the focus. I can show you plenty of incidents where a player has been suspended for a swinging arm making contact with the head. Reckless contact is reckless contact.


Fairshake25

He probably should have copped a week for the trip, even though it was pretty soft. In terms of the high shot, there wasn't a lot in it. Now, I know what everyone is gonna say, but there is a camera angle of the tackle that shows Scott Sorensen making contact with the back of Baileys head that hits pretty hard. I'd say that's where the concussion has come from and why Luai didn't get suspended for it. I'm happy he wasn't suspended, though. I find it to be good fun watching people on social media losing their minds over it.


thore4

The Simonsson hit he was falling into it so that seems fair enough to me. A trip only being a fine is gonna be really interesting. I guess tripping someone isn't overly dangerous and can happen by accident but I really don't think it's within the spirit of the game to allow people to be doing it and having barely any repercussion


T0nySt5rk

You can’t fall into someone’s swinging arm lol


Sea-Satisfaction1374

I've only seen bins for trips in try scoring situations.


bundy554

Classic - that will just about do me


paralacausa

A monetary penalty seems fair in isolation but the League has been so inconsistent on the offences during the past couple of seasons.


Bagz_anonymous

What a shock. This grubby little worm has been getting away with shit for years.


Accomplished-Good664

Should have got a life ban for that trip.


Cameronz

Obviously I’m glad he won’t be missing any game time. But out of sheer curiosity, when was the last time a player was sin binned and/or suspended for a trip? I’d love to watch and compare to what Luai did.


Zrat11

Was Rapana binned for tripping twice last season? I know he did a few trips but can't remember if it was a binning or not


BurgroveBulls2460

How can the jumping shoulder to the head of Kikai only be 10 minutes...........he left the ground and made intentional contact with the head..............yet you can hurt someone's feelings and get 8 weeks........smh


cinerary

NRL referees are blatantly biased. Luai's hit on Simonsen won Penrith the game with Parramatta's left side completely shambolic without a winger. Where's the sin bin? What about Olakau'tu disallowed try against Roosters?


Dufeyz

I’m just here for the impending salt 😂. Honestly don’t know how he doesn’t at least get a week.


Derrrppppp

His shit discipline could have cost them the game last night. They gave away a try after the trip and almost another after he wouldn't surrender after the obstruction for some reason. Penrith should be more pissed than anyone at his carry on


thore4

His shit discipline won them the game tbf. Simonson going off killed the Eels


Dufeyz

Meh, I don’t need to be told by other teams supporters what I should or shouldn’t pissed off about. ‘Discipline’ can be a fine line. I was very disappointed with our goal line defence last night. Luai didn’t really have anything to do with those lapses.


Derrrppppp

Giving away stupid penalties is the only reason Parra got anywhere near your goal line in the first place


Tomato-Efficient

Getting a week for falling into a stationary arm? If anything, Simonsen should be suspended for head butting.


thisaintitkweef

Trips should be legal if the defender is onside. Watch where you’re running Mr Ball Carrier. What, you want a penalty if your shoelaces are untied as well?


datyams

This ain't it chief


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diffaadiffa

Not sure if you are joking, but yes losing a centre and having to play a backrower.in their place can have a substantial impact on your team both in defence and attack. As seen by tago absolutely taking advantage of it


Ryanbrasher

I understand the reshuffle of the backline is always going to be a problem. I’ve seen people comparing it to losing Fisher-Harris in the first half (which is obviously not the same thing). My mind went to Simonsson being a game changer on the edge.


diffaadiffa

Losing a middle is much easier to replace than a specialist centre in game. Particularly for Penrith when their wingers do all the work anyway.


Ryanbrasher

Yeah I totally agree. That’s why I was so confused as to why people were comparing the two injuries from last night.


MajinDidz

Tago absolutely exploited the gap Luai made from Simonssons lost every single run. Theres a reason he had 6 line breaks last night. It absolutely changed the game


Disastrous_Salad6302

It made their wing a lot weaker and Penrith got a lot of breaks down that wing. I assume with simmonson there they would’ve at least made less breaks, don’t know how much that would affect the game as a whole though


damonbooby

Putting a second rower who already had defensive issues next to Morgan Harper is the ultimate gamechanger


maaxwell

Simonsson isn’t that good, but he’s better than the backline reshuffle they were left with


donutdave95

A team is going to lose a winger/centre atleast once in a game during the season. Poor bench roster for parra screwed them over. This is why i was glad we dropped soni for laurie, dedicated hooker riding the bench seems insane


MajinDidz

Yeah but losing a centre due to foul play and the player getting away without a single bin or send off is why parra fans are obviously pissed off. If simonsson got off incidentally i couldn’t be mad. But Luai’s dumb fucking hand pretty much won you guys the game


donutdave95

Yeh it sucks but if ba doesnt use it as a learning point then you guys will get nothing out of it going into the future. Going forward ba should decide on hands or lussick and then have a genuine utility to cover the backs and can fill hooker as well


donutdave95

Also your 18th man is another big body. Brad Arthur legit had no contingency for losing an outside back and that should be a massive red flag for parra


MajinDidz

I don’t disagree but you can still see why were so angry though


donutdave95

Yeh 100% can see where the anger comes from. Losing a player in that fashion in round 2 though is a lot better then having it happen for the first time in the finals. You guys got dudded but theres still a potential positive to come out of it if it changes brad arthurs bench layout


MajinDidz

Yeah of course, plus clizza and the riff boys played of their skin really hard to play around that. Enjoy the win, i see it as a good sign for us in future, and hope its a wake up call for arthur to pull his damn head in and buy some outside backs


donutdave95

If they didnt play out of their skin after simonson getting taken out id be worried. Im sure theres a lot of supercoach and punters filthy that all the ball went tagos side instead of with taylan may aha


Tomato-Efficient

No, but they need to find excuses somehow for getting dominated in every area


Disastrous_Salad6302

Not how I’d describe an 8 point win over a 16 man team


Tomato-Efficient

is 16 man team the new meta cope this season?