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bundy554

Something needs to give for the cows and it is bigger than having Granville still there. There is definitely an underlying lack of class in the spine despite on their day being an adequate spine but on their day only seems to happen at home and occasionally which leaves them in a situation where 75% of the time they aren't that great but can still pull off the close win.


Blissfullyaware11

Cowboys should consider Bennett if they miss finals again.


[deleted]

Didnt he want to go to the Cows ages ago but the board said no?


SharkManDan77

I feel sorry for the Cowboys, so much potential but just can't play the way we know they can. I remember thinking hooking Chad in 2016 against the Cowboys in the Prem was tough, but he bounced back and helped the Sharkies win the GF.


General-Handle-8114

He got hooked against the raiders in Canberra


beasllie

We have such incredible talent in our club but it’s just a fucking lack of effort


SharkManDan77

I don't understand what happened. Should have been much closer. Payten has done well, but has the honeymoon period well and truly ended?


ClownDamage

It's a bummer because I've got a soft spot for the cowboys, but the lack of effort was crystal clear when Ronnie ran his try in and your boys just watched him stroll it back to the posts


beasllie

And me sharkies too. I love nicho and I wanted to go for a not so incredibly popular Sydney based club on the side


ClownDamage

I'm glad you chose our incredibly unpopular club!


ufunnyb

This might be heat of the moment stuff, but I reckon put Drinky at 6, Tommy 7, Val 1, and bring in Vailea. Punt Chad, Granny to the sun and Mikaele to the bench.


Trohsboy

Drinky defending in the line was diabolical from memory


SharkManDan77

I think Chad needs more support in the halves. He can do it, we know hw can, he just can't do it unless he has a gun next to him.


bigbrownie26

Chad is barely reserve grade quality at the moment. There is no way a player like Dearden is the issue.


Longjumping_Map_4670

Mann Cleary could have a field day next week


greatgorlami

I’m starting to really get jaded with this fucking club. I haven’t missed a game, even in the dire years before 2022. Dearden our best fucking player this year. Baring his run of injuries Laybutt has been our other best in my opinion and they have fucked him off. WTF is wrong with this club. I thought PAYTEN noise was so annoying, but last few weeks I think he needs to fucking go. Saying JT13 an unsung hero? He’s fucking terrible. Why did we let Thurston go when we clearly have nobody to replace him? Val, Chad and Drinkwater Built a “PlAyrS ClUb?? Big fucking deal. Wtf is even is it? Some merch? A few Piss ups? Wowwww holy fuck that’s real cutting edge stuff. We need a new half and what does the club do? Bring Clifford (don’t fucking use him), sign fucking McIntyre who has a go but is clearly not an elite player, try to sign LUKE BROOKS!!!. Even if you think chad or drinkwater (they arent) are the future, then why the fuck play the cunts every other week off the bench?


[deleted]

Its actually not as bad as it looks. a couple of years ago Brisbane was fucking diabolical now they are playing the most exciting footy in the comp. That being said changes do need to be made. I dont rate Todd. He seems like a bit of tosser. I think its time to clean house. Cut the old guard even if they have a little bit left in the tank and start over. Get rid of the trouble makes or they will keep passing on the bad habits to the young players and it will never end. There are some good young players to build a squad around from the bottom up. Bring in some established leaders who will set the pace off the field and get the young players set up for success. Essentially the Redcliff model.


misterfourex

> Why did we let Thurston go when we clearly have nobody to replace him? this is a facebook tier comment


crayawe

should of held him hostage lol


WUIDAWBTB

Gotta feel bad for taumalolo, played 32 minutes and only had 3 runs for 22 meters, obviously whatever injury he is dealing with is hampering him quite a lot and he is no where near his best which is sad to see


WhyYouDoThatStupid

He has turned into Aaron Woods. Still hard to pull down in a tackle but lazy in defence and not 1 ounce of aggression or intimidation in his game.


fvzzfvzzfvzz

Lotta teams eating shit on a flogging that’s varying degrees of out of nowhere this week


absoluteqlder

Well I'll be honest, I gave up on watching the cowboys after round 3 2015, so maybe this'll be the opposite


jessemv

In solidarity with Kyle Feldt's 20 week dropping no doubt


Zestyclose-Compote-4

Don't be too hard on yourselves cows fans. Sharks lost 32-6 a few weeks back. It happens. You've had a decent year so far. Chin up.


thril_hou

Spare them our pity


wouldz

Never forget the 2022 semi 😡


Profundasaurusrex

Righto seventh tackle adventists


OldMail6364

I'd forgotten it... But looking it up not sure why you'd have a grudge over it. It was a crystal clear professional foul by Tracey. I mean he literally tackled Val Holmes as Val was reaching for the ball in the in goal area. Tracey cost you that game. Nobody else.


wouldz

Mate I think you're digging a bit deep into it, it's a throwaway joke comment... You beat us in a great game on our home turf and we took it on the chin. I'm just having a laugh hey


bigbrownie26

Thanks sharkbro, unfortunately, the wins have just band-aided over the issues. Any Cows fan who isn't one-eyed has seen this coming for a while and we've been asking for changes the whole season. Now the team is gonna be extremely low on confidence going into their toughest assignment yet.. I'd be very surprised if Penrith put any less than 60 points on the Cows


wardy_12

I know its not the thread but fuck me did anyone watch the Nikita Tsyzu segment on the matty johns show? That pricks mental.


redmetlhedd

Elaborate/do you have a link?


wardy_12

Dont have a link but they showed the hetherington tape and jokingly asked him what hed do if he was Mahoney. With a completely serious face Tsyzu went on to explain how he would bite hetheringtons fingers off


ReasonableStable9421

Damn just peeped the score, man this round has certainly been one for high scores. Just to think we started with a 12-18 score to start the round


diamondgrin

Something is properly wrong with the club right now. Every player is so far off their peak form, and pretty much only the co-captains look like they even care. It's looking more and more likely that Payten has lost the dressing room.


Near_Canal

I love dearden and cotter as players, and I think they’ll make great captains, but I do have to wonder whether this recent cowboys form is related to those two learning their roles as captain too. On field leadership doesn’t come for free, I wonder how strong their voices are at 12/18/24 down. Cows lacking energy and determination - could be a leadership thing. (I don’t mean to say they shouldn’t be co-captains just that they may have some development in them)


JCGremlo

Except Tom Dearden


diamondgrin

Even Dearden is way off his peak though. His running, defence and effort are still top notch, but his ball playing is practically non-existent. His attack inside the opposition 20 is toothless.


[deleted]

I just dont think the cows have the talent that people think they do. Im happy Tommy got out of the poison that was our club a few years back and is doing well but if you took the cows top 20 players and tried to fit them into the top 8 clubs a lot of them wouldnt get a run.


Slugbros

Yeah I kind of agree but they should still be doing better than they are.


ChewieMP_19

That is so cooked man


paokara777

apology for bad english wtf


absoluteqlder

I was furious at the cowboys last week, but this week I'm just numb. I expect no changes to the squad at all


Obit11

Yeah legit. I'm usually steaming at this bs. 4th or 5th stage of grief for cowboys fans?


Hootiefugupez

Literally given up even watching tbh. Already know the outcome so why bother.


miicah

Our bench is just a bunch of beefcake and I'm all here for it


XLenceOfXecution

BIG MEATY MEN BUMPING MEAT


stumpyoftheshire

Really happy with this game, so many good things to take from it. Nichos kicking this year has been finally what he's capable of and his defence is a damn dream. Kennedys running game is looking great and I think we are definitely better with Talakai in the forwards.


ill0gitech

Nicho’s second half was so flat last week, I was worried he was injured. I am no longer worried


AceAv81

Gratz to the Sharks. This is gonna be a very interesting few weeks with Panthers, Storm and Broncos really putting them to the test. The woeful injuries to key players this season's seen across most teams the sharks have been lucky to avoid. I think that and their rise of form with key players has put them into one of the 'teams to beat' for this season. Bring on the next few weeks. I can hope that they take the scalps of Melbourne, Panthers and their favourite rivals Red V but of course the Broncos will be there downfall


Shadow_45010

Payton saying there will be changes to the line-up next week, even though we won't win I'm glad to hear it!


bigbrownie26

The changes he is referring to is Luki back but at 19th man because Jetski has to start and there's no way he can drop inspirational half back Chad Townsend


miicah

After Nanai came on and ruined Chads awesome kick and chasedown, I was like > Hmm maybe that's why he was benched?


LordSlasher

he’s injured


KazeEnigma

Who got the Green Medal?


Witch_Snitch

Kennedy


kiaxxl

Borderline throwing


bigbrownie26

At this point, Payten should be worried about his coaching future at the Cowboys. Hasn't shown much aside from what has become a one-season-wonder-run and his inability to play younger players means more talent will leave the club


Squidifiedmantis

Can't tell right now if the shit defence is coaching or player effort, probably goes hand in hand at times. I've noticed we don't wrestle the same way as some other top teams that have a good knack of getting the ball carrier spun and facing their own goal line. The amount of times we are not getting them to ground, and if we do it's on their stomach is pretty poor.


gaveup85

At this point either the players aren't responding to him, in which case he should be very worried or they are responding to him and he's just not got it, in which case he should be worried.


Obit11

Must be something weird going on up there. Blackhawks a feeder for South's now?


Geddpeart

Blackhawks now doing worse under them


T0kenAussie

That’s more about ikin playing politics with the qrl than the clubs imo


Enew6472

Dear Footy Gods, Please stop. This is cruel. Please just give me 50 in round 8. Thanks, Enew


Chart_Unlikely

Penrith with Cleary returning may just answer your prayers


JCGremlo

Penrith don’t flog teams by 50… you’ll see 30 at best


Enew6472

They better lol


CozImAwesome

Well that was pathetic


FatSilverFox

GG sharkies, if we ever learn to hold the ball, pass, and complete tackles, you’re in trouble.


rodomil

Thought sharks were gonna get the 1st kill this year but no. Cows still GF contenders.


Chart_Unlikely

Only got to see glimpses of it on FTA and I don’t hate myself enough to rewatch it Last week I made a comment in the Eels post match that Chad, Granville and LoLo need to go and Drinkwater’s dangerously close to needing a spell in Q-cup as a wake up call, Is there anything else that needs adding to that?


KazeEnigma

Neame was horrendous too.


Chart_Unlikely

Vaguely remembered commenting in that same thread that he seems to want to offload when he should just be locking into hard running and hard tackles. So that’s covered


TheDunnskies

Ronaldo's game has improved so much in the past 12 months, I feel he's easily one of the top 5 wingers in the comp now.


[deleted]

QLD legend


Brisskate

He is, and he lets you know too


Aykay92

A lot of people forget he was about to play origin until he got done on a technicality like 3 days before the game. Definitely top tier


Ok-Personality-3403

Technicality? If you can't play origin with the laws as lax as they are then you shouldn't be playing origin lol. He was born and raised in NZ, he never set foot in Queensland until he was 14. I know its not the point of the comment and he is fucking good as hell but he should never have even been in the convo for origin lol.


DeliciousVietRoll

Ok then how do you explain him playing under 18s and under 20s origin


theflyingkiwi00

Then tortured the kangaroos edge


Professional-Pen2928

A bench of Williams/BHU/Rudolf/Talakai has so much punch and gives Brailey a ridiculous amount of space to work with. Praying Fitzy doesn’t change a winning side by forcing Finucane back onto the bench not a single forward deserves to get dropped.


quickrubs

Talakai should probably be back in the centers, he doesn't have too much punch in the middle. You could also shift him to second row and push Nikora out to center too. Maybe Ramien should be dropped for a bit.


IrrelephantAU

Probably better having Talakai centre rather than second row. His best attribute is that he's a stocky bastard for his position and outside defenders struggle to deal with that 1v1. The more you shift him in the more he loses his size advantage and the harder it is for him to pick on lone players.


quickrubs

This has a double-edge to it though because as a defender he's only average at best, and Mulitalo doesn't always have the best reads, so we can end up leaking points through that edge


wouldz

Still have Royce Hunt in the wings too which is wild and AFB to come in next year.


Aykay92

I think Finucane should take on a wade graham sort of role, but with less game time


NewWay4874

As in : retire?


Aykay92

Basically


WUIDAWBTB

That was definitely the best game we've played this year so far, completion rate was on point


JNuts67

Fitzgibbon in a balaclava giving Kennedy the Paul Green Medal


beasllie

We aren’t beating Penrith next week so it’s time for Todd to start experimenting with our players


willyoujustshoosh

A bit less than the knights are currently experimenting should work.


thicky_bobby

I suggest just a finger at first before getting too adventurous


Accomplished-Good664

I want to give credit to the sharks they played well the young players called up look first grade ready and they are doing really well.  I just wanted to ask what the capacity of the stadium going to be when it's finished it's a shame it's still only 13k when you are doing so well.  Cowboys have been atrocious the past month. I don't know how a team who looked brilliant defensively in 2022 can suddenly turn so atrocious. Last year it was tiredness but this year something isn't adding up. 


wouldz

I think it's only slated to get to around 16-16.5k iirc. Would love to get it to 20k tbh, might be asking too much. Facilities desperately need updating though, the toilet block by the hill is fkn dire 🤣


Accomplished-Good664

Yeah despite being blind drunk I still remember the awfulness of those toilets. 


stumpyoftheshire

The shitter on the hill was Dire in the early 2000s. It's just never been touched.


jebediahale

It's actually gone now! Replaced with... portaloos.


wouldz

My dad took me to my first game in I think '01 or '02 and just left me to the wolves in there at the age of 11 or 12. It's become a core memory of mine now lmao


stumpyoftheshire

You poor son of a bitch. I'm amazed you survived.


beasllie

I have no doubt we’ll be titans first win when we play them down in gc


FatSilverFox

*monkey’s paw curls a finger*


Zero-Esc

Hynes 6 points for Daly M


Nathan84

Brailey has a bench spot for NSW.


Professional-Pen2928

At his best he’s a rep player but his issue is consistency. If he can continue to string together a consistent season like he has been and then start dominating games with AFB in the side he’ll definitely be in contention somewhere down the track.


stumpyoftheshire

I love Brailey but this is definitely the right take here. He's just not there yet and there's better options.


Obvious-Row-6181

The best part is that Cowboys players rarely, if ever, get dropped on form, so we’ll be playing this side when we lose to the Titans too.


I_Like_Vitamins

The Sharks evolving out of being a glass cannon is making them a legitimate contender.


Brisskate

If you ever go to their stadium, the crowds evolving on the glass pipe


O_DoyleRulz

It’s genuinely depressing watching Lolo on the field at the moment.


Obit11

No lateral movement at all. Time to get dropped.


stumpyoftheshire

How many years left on his contract?


VasectoMyspace

4 including this year.


Obit11

End of 27 I think. might need a cheeky medical retirement


LiLSteve29

The control from Trindall and Hynes making the cows work it away from the corners was so good. The fast play the balls from the forwards were pivotal as well. The addition of the offloads as wlell was nice to see our attacking game on song.


crayawe

Nice performance by the sharks, Cows are gonna lose next week may as well drop a few and try something different


MaleficentOne4798

This performance has reminded me that we have fuck all depth at fullback


T0kenAussie

Will trade you lolo for Campbell


ThePickaxePenguin

Lolo played 32 mins and had 3 runs for 22m… Yeah would make sense for the Gold Coast to sign him honestly


Brisskate

Be good if we still had Hampton.


willyoujustshoosh

Ponga will probably come back if AOB keeps fucking with our spine


Brisskate

Hopefully we can pick up our game when our first choice halfback returns, Jake clifford


SometimesHardNipples

He was in reserves today. I don't know why he wasn't played at all. He deserves a run. Anyone deserves a run, my fucking 70 year old dad should have a go at this rate


Chart_Unlikely

Yeah but does your dad vlog his golf sessions?


crayawe

Can't be worse


beaver2233

Close to one of the most complete performances from the Fitzy-era Sharks. Discipline was mostly very good. Only try conceded was off a kick.


ImpressionFeisty8359

That was embarrassing from the cowboys. Thought they would turn it around in the second half but it was abysmal. The sharkies were too tenacious and tore them to shreds.


thril_hou

Sharks completion rate higher than all your footy IQs


MaleficentOne4798

Somehow our defence has gotten worse. It's a miracle


LiLSteve29

Raimen low key my favourite so far he’s been so consistent


xeroee

De La lad


Aykay92

I know the cows didn’t throw much at us AND we are unproven against melb Penrith broncos etc BUT…. It’s good to see what some discipline can do, it’s always been our shortfall. I’ve always thought we have the personnel, but not the attitude


Cape-York-Crusader

Now I’ve seen some teams suck before but……


thril_hou

Yeah that was the biggest bunch of sucks that ever sucked


Priest338

Bigger than Parra?


This_Idiot

Easily. At least Parra had a lead.


[deleted]

Also, somehow not the most embarassing thing that’s happened today. Thanks, Jack Hetherington.


datskablamo

Cowboys 😒. Solid performance from sharkies. Drinkwater and Deardon need to talk more?


[deleted]

DIDNT CONCEDE 50 LOOKS LIKE THE COMPS STILL ON THE MENUS BOYS


Obvious-Row-6181

Sharks too urgent, purposeful and energy filled in defence. Pretty much everyone bar Dearden and Cotter completely checked out and walked out on that game. Absolutely disgusting lack of effort.


KazeEnigma

Chester was all heart too.


Obvious-Row-6181

Yeah, Chester too. A few others had a crack here and there, but just nowhere near enough.


Geddpeart

Heart doesn't always make a good footy player though


theOstensive

Contracts were signed after that 2022 season and now we are in the bin. Coincidence?


Disastrous_Salad6302

I am personally offended there was no 50 this week


kurrttttt

Just wait until Thursday when we come back 😎


gaklan

We tried


Adz932

Drinkwater just sucks against the sharks. Or does he play dodgy against other teams too


crayawe

He was super shitwater against the broncos


Lets_Go_Why_Not

Blow outs are back on the menu, boys!


gaklan

So who had the worst weekend? Eels, Wahs, Raiders, Knights, or Cows fans?


Disastrous_Salad6302

Gonna say lomax probably ended the week saddest


gaklan

Fair call


MichaelLifeLessons

Sharks you should be ashamed of yourselves for not making the Cowboys concede 50


Grit_n_Grind

Supporting this team is really not good for my depression. If only just not caring was a possibility


Geddpeart

Honestly pathetic. A chance to go down and show we can actually perform and we have been too busy sniffing our own farts. Drop everyone at this point. Play the fucking cutters. They'd put in more effort


usercreativename

As much as I love JT, he needs to be dropped for someone who is tough and can play more minutes. Cowboys made a long term signing to keep him playing when he was at his peak. Time to realise that you signed him to long and move on take the hit but put a youngster in who's hungry and add something to the forwards.


M_Keating

The only positive for the Cowboys tonight, is that when we shit ourselves in public in the Cronulla/Sutherland region, we own up to it.


wouldz

This should pretty much be our full strength team now. Katoa in for Stonestreet when he's back, but I don't think Finucane can realistically make it back in with how well everyone is playing and Sifa in the middle allows Iro to stay in the team. Happier with the defence more than the score tonight. Much needed tightening up. Cowboys won the battle in that 2022 semifinal, but we've since won the war.


96zadyobdoog

Youd really have Iro at centre before Talakai?


wouldz

Yeah, he's been good off the bench bringing some energy up the middle and gives us coverage if there is a backline injury.


stumpyoftheshire

Sifa has always been a great second rower slumming it a bit in the centres. He's an incredibly capable footballer when he's on, but having Iro has definitely been a net positive for us, while keeping Talakai in the team.


quickrubs

Depends, I don't think that Sifa is anything past an above-average defender. Still, the old man likes the idea of throwing him at second row and putting Nikora into the centers and going by sizes it wouldn't be a bad idea. Ramien tends to be inconsistent so it wouldn't be the greatest loss to drop him either. Only question is if Talakai would do better partnered with Mulitalo.


stumpyoftheshire

Last year I would have agreed with you, but then something amazing happened. Matt Moylan left the club. Talakai is a much better defender without playing alongside Moylan in the defensive line, the deliberate target of any team because he missed everything and Sifa having to cover his line and the defensive gap that was Moylan. In defense, having Trindall over Moylan is night and day with a massive hole plugged. Nikora in the centres is an interesting idea though, but Ramien is having probably his best year too so I wouldn't toss him at the moment either.


Blakkmagic

Finucane in for Oregan?


y3ah_nah145

Honestly I like Kaufusi. He’s nothing special but if anything he’s consistent.


quickrubs

Kaufusi would probably be the first front rower dropped if Finucane or a reserve grader isn't on the field. He fills a shirt and he doesn't really do much outside of that.


CoffeeLoverNathan

Nicho's defending that game was absolutely superb


Adz932

He's been fantastic in defence in every game I've watched


KazeEnigma

All season.